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Title: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: dsnowlion on August 08, 2018, 05:31:21 PM
While the CTA and their supporters harass Dorje Shugden practitioners for peacefully upholding their religious freedom, they say nothing about lamas who are consistently and constantly accused of abusing their students, but this is about to change as more and more victims and starting to speak up. Question is Why does the Tibetan leadership allow it and silent towards such abuse? This new article will explain...

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Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
By: Solaray Kusco


Under the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA; Tibetan leadership based in Dharamsala), one might be forgiven for assuming that tales of financial mismanagement, embezzlement, murder and sex scandals have only recently become commonplace.

That could not be further from the truth; it would be a lie to say that before 1959 and the subsequent diaspora of Tibetans around the world, such events never occurred. The truth is that Tibetan society has always been plagued by intrigue, conflict, fighting, exploitation and abuse, with the murder of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen being just one of a myriad of examples. However, after 1959 and with Tibetan society becoming more accessible to the world, the perpetrators increasingly found themselves in communities where these abuses would not be tolerated, covered up, dismissed or justified as ‘crazy wisdom’.

The Tibetan diaspora brought its people in contact with Western nations where people are educated and where there is a growing awareness against the abuse and exploitation of women, for example the #MeToo movement. It also brought the lamas into an environment where people can easily access information to compare teachers, and judge for themselves if their methods are appropriate or not. This would not have been possible in feudalistic pre-1959 Tibet. When the abuses happened then, there was no infrastructure to spread the word as quickly, and there was a greater likelihood that disenfranchised Tibetan students would be hushed up by the all-powerful ruling lamas.

Some sympathizers might attempt to excuse these lamas’ behaviors as a clash of cultures; that is, raised in the male-dominated environment of a monastery, these Tibetan lamas did not know any better and misinterpreted their Western students’ behavior as consent. But ignorantia juris non excusat or, in other words, ignorance of law excuses no one and it is not an adequate nor valid defense for the acts they have committed. Many of these lamas have already been in the West for decades, and some were educated or even born there. If none of this applies to them, then at the very least they have been surrounded by Western advisors and disciples for years. The point is that they have been exposed to Western culture for a long, long time and there is no justification for their behavior.

Therefore the following questions remain:

(1) How come the Tibetan leadership has, by and large, stayed silent?

While they are quick to condemn others who do not fall in line with their diktats, such as Dorje Shugden practitioners who refuse to abide by the ban, the Dalai Lama and the CTA are sluggish when it comes to condemning perpetrators of sexual abuse. One has to wonder why the Dalai Lama and the CTA does not when sexual abuse is universally reviled; it should not be an issue for the Dalai Lama and the CTA to condemn these behaviors. No one would fault them for doing so and in fact, they would be applauded.

The fact they are sluggish to do so suggests that either they approve of these behaviors or they are afraid to condemn the perpetrators, lest they lose their financial patronage and support. After all, many of these individuals are the heads of extremely wealthy organizations, with donors and sponsors at their beck and call.

Read more: [url]http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/tibetan-buddhist-lamas-who-sexually-abuse/[/url] ([url]http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/tibetan-buddhist-lamas-who-sexually-abuse/[/url])
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: michaela on August 08, 2018, 06:58:17 PM
Lamas who sexually abuse their students are a disgrace for Tibetan Buddhist name. Sexual abuse is a crime and when it is done by deceiving those who are looking for spiritual guidance it is far worse.

Instead of discriminating the innocent Shugden practitioners, the Tibetan leadership should focus instead on these religious figures.
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: Harold Musetescu on August 08, 2018, 07:30:51 PM
In Tibet when the Lamas and Tulkus had sex with young girls and woman it was called a "Body Blessing".

Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: Questionable on August 08, 2018, 09:09:47 PM
In Tibet when the Lamas and Tulkus had sex with young girls and woman it was called a "Body Blessing".
Ah yes, masters like Drukpa Kunley that did such things. However, it is customary to observe a lama for a set of number of years before taking him/her as a lama/guru.  So yes, one should keep in mind over joining Vajrayana and its contents before actually joining.  Still, there are lamas out there that don't do such things(but there is a problem in the monasteries with young boys even today).
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: Rowntree on August 09, 2018, 12:45:35 PM
People should not be influenced by the label "Rinpoche", "Lama", "high reincarnation" & etc. Regardless of religious beliefs, we must observe the person's actions according to dharma before deciding to follow and learn from him or her. We must not give in to peer pressure and follow what everyone does. Due to our ignorance and lack of knowledge of dharma, we would just follow what everyone does even if it doesn't look right, for e.g. keeping a harem of woman, intoxication, drugs etc. Perhaps a proper guideline would be to follow a teacher who keeps his or her vow purely and does not follow one who uses the samsaric desire including sex, drugs, alcohol, fame, power and etc. which is difficult for us to tell.
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: Questionable on August 09, 2018, 03:50:28 PM
People should not be influenced by the label "Rinpoche", "Lama", "high reincarnation" & etc. Regardless of religious beliefs, we must observe the person's actions according to dharma before deciding to follow and learn from him or her. We must not give in to peer pressure and follow what everyone does. Due to our ignorance and lack of knowledge of dharma, we would just follow what everyone does even if it doesn't look right, for e.g. keeping a harem of woman, intoxication, drugs etc. Perhaps a proper guideline would be to follow a teacher who keeps his or her vow purely and does not follow one who uses the samsaric desire including sex, drugs, alcohol, fame, power and etc. which is difficult for us to tell.
Exactly!  Problem solved.
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: Drolma on August 10, 2018, 03:27:07 PM
After so many sex scandals involving the Lamas/Rinpoches have been exposed in the Tibetan Buddhist community, the CTA is still keeping one eye closed. These sex offenders are still allowed to operate their Dharma centres and be associated with the Dalai Lama. What does this tell the public? That the Dalai Lama and the CTA are agreeable to their actions?

How the CTA deals with the sex offenders and the Dorje Shugden followers are two different standards. Dorje Shugden followers did not commit any crime, but the CTA has a section in their website dedicated to condemn Dorje Shugden and its followers. On the other hand, the news about the sex scandals are covered up. The CTA didn’t even issue a warning of their wrongdoings to protect the public.

The CTA is motivated by money for sure. These Lamas/Rinpoches who are involved in the sex scandals are wealthy, they can offer lots of money to the CTA to have an audience with the Dalai Lama. To cover up their incompetence, Dorje Shugden ban is imposed to distract people’s attention.
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: Questionable on August 10, 2018, 03:33:12 PM
After so many sex scandals involving the Lamas/Rinpoches have been exposed in the Tibetan Buddhist community, the CTA is still keeping one eye closed. These sex offenders are still allowed to operate their Dharma centres and be associated with the Dalai Lama. What does this tell the public? That the Dalai Lama and the CTA are agreeable to their actions?

How the CTA deals with the sex offenders and the Dorje Shugden followers are two different standards. Dorje Shugden followers did not commit any crime, but the CTA has a section in their website dedicated to condemn Dorje Shugden and its followers. On the other hand, the news about the sex scandals are covered up. The CTA didn’t even issue a warning of their wrongdoings to protect the public.

The CTA is motivated by money for sure. These Lamas/Rinpoches who are involved in the sex scandals are wealthy, they can offer lots of money to the CTA to have an audience with the Dalai Lama. To cover up their incompetence, Dorje Shugden ban is imposed to distract people’s attention.
In all honesty, I have never heard of a Shugdenpa lama ever being involved in sexual assault of their own students.  This goes to show how our lamas are indeed authentic and true to their students without breaking samaya.
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: Harold Musetescu on August 11, 2018, 08:04:41 AM

Posted by: Questionable
on: August 10, 2018,
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In all honesty, I have never heard of a Shugdenpa lama ever being involved in sexual assault of their own students.  This goes to show how our lamas are indeed authentic and true to their students without breaking samaya.
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This is not true Questionable for there have be sex scandals within the Dorje Shugden New Kadamapa Tradition.

Here is a link about that scandal.

https://info-buddhism.com/new_kadampa_tradition.html#Criticism_of_the_NKT

Here is the relevant quote

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In 1996 and 2007 there were internal power crises based on the SEXUAL MISCONDUCT sexual of senior students, more specifically, but not exclusively his SUCCESSORS at that time, Gen-la Thubten Gyatso (Neil Elliott) and Gen-la Samden Gyatso (Steve Wass). Ordained NKT monks and nuns did have active sexual relationships with each other as well as lay members and these relationships were NOT DISCIPLINED within the organization. Members report that they complained to the NKT leadership and addressed requests for help to Kelsang Gyatso himself. BUT INSTEAD OF DOING SOMETHING he threw the blame back and said those people reporting the events to him would destroy the pure tradition, and “harm the Buddhadharma and all sentient beings”. In this way THE SCANDALS WERE COVERED UP for a very long time until they were made public via internet. When NKT followers started to disccuss these topics in the official NKT internet forum in 2007, Kelsang Gyatso  ORDERED TO  CLOSE IT, calling these discussions “meaningless activity” and recommending “If you wish, do meaningful discussion with senior Teachers or pure practitioners, or meaningful discussion with your Teacher."

So Questionable you can now see that your statements were WRONG.
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: Questionable on August 11, 2018, 05:08:25 PM

Posted by: Questionable
on: August 10, 2018,
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In all honesty, I have never heard of a Shugdenpa lama ever being involved in sexual assault of their own students.  This goes to show how our lamas are indeed authentic and true to their students without breaking samaya.
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This is not true Questionable for there have be sex scandals within the Dorje Shugden New Kadamapa Tradition.

Here is a link about that scandal.

https://info-buddhism.com/new_kadampa_tradition.html#Criticism_of_the_NKT

Here is the relevant quote

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In 1996 and 2007 there were internal power crises based on the SEXUAL MISCONDUCT sexual of senior students, more specifically, but not exclusively his SUCCESSORS at that time, Gen-la Thubten Gyatso (Neil Elliott) and Gen-la Samden Gyatso (Steve Wass). Ordained NKT monks and nuns did have active sexual relationships with each other as well as lay members and these relationships were NOT DISCIPLINED within the organization. Members report that they complained to the NKT leadership and addressed requests for help to Kelsang Gyatso himself. BUT INSTEAD OF DOING SOMETHING he threw the blame back and said those people reporting the events to him would destroy the pure tradition, and “harm the Buddhadharma and all sentient beings”. In this way THE SCANDALS WERE COVERED UP for a very long time until they were made public via internet. When NKT followers started to disccuss these topics in the official NKT internet forum in 2007, Kelsang Gyatso  ORDERED TO  CLOSE IT, calling these discussions “meaningless activity” and recommending “If you wish, do meaningful discussion with senior Teachers or pure practitioners, or meaningful discussion with your Teacher."

So Questionable you can now see that your statements were WRONG.

Thank you very much, Harold.
I see indeed I was wrong about Shugdenpa lamas not being in scandals.  My bad.
Well, at least Venerable Kelsang Gyatso doesn't get into such things and prefers to focus on practice.  ;D

P.S. You're still this angry?
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: Harold Musetescu on August 12, 2018, 01:32:45 AM
A  quote from "Questionable"

"Thank you very much, Harold.
I see indeed I was wrong about Shugdenpa lamas not being in scandals.  My bad.

P.S. You're still this angry?"

I'm not angry but are you angry the Pastor Patel REMOVED your question about me from Tsem Tulku's "Ask a question" on his website.

Did Pastor Patel find "Questionable" your "Question", "Questionable."?

I think he found "You bad". :o :o :o :o :o

P.S. You're still this angry? :( :( :(

Maybe I should do a poll with the readers about you.
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: Pema8 on August 12, 2018, 02:04:37 AM
So many scandals in Tibetan Buddhism is putting a very bad light on Buddhism. There should not be any transgression especially as these lamas have to comply to their vows.

Very sad indeed that these lamas are not punished and can go on in their position for years and years and continue their abuse and harm. This should not happen as the public observes and many might not join because of such behaviour.

It is important to observe the lamas actions and only follow wholeheartedly if you are sure that he is behaving as a real lama and has only the best interests for yourself and everyone around.
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: Rowntree on August 14, 2018, 05:11:55 AM
So many scandals in Tibetan Buddhism is putting a very bad light on Buddhism. There should not be any transgression especially as these lamas have to comply to their vows.

Very sad indeed that these lamas are not punished and can go on in their position for years and years and continue their abuse and harm. This should not happen as the public observes and many might not join because of such behaviour.

It is important to observe the lamas actions and only follow wholeheartedly if you are sure that he is behaving as a real lama and has only the best interests for yourself and everyone around.

I believe there are many scandals everywhere and Tibetan Buddhism is not the only sec that has this kind of problem. They are more exposed because they are active in the Western world where sexual harassment will be talked about and the victims are more fearless in standing up for themselves. Regardless, this kind of act should be exposed in order to protect the innocent from being harmed.

We are in the time where Three Jewels garner less respected due to our negative karma. People are more and more indulged in samsara where spirituality has no value over their material possessions. It is times like this that sex and desire are encouraged and people are actually ok to find sangha who do not hold their vows strictly because their actions match samsara.

At times like this, it is even more important that we carefully examine potential spiritual guide and for them to examine potential students. The genuine intention and wish to practice dharma to benefit others should be the main criteria for both the teacher and student to focus on, instead of wealth, fame and sex.
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: dsnowlion on August 15, 2018, 06:23:56 AM

I believe there are many scandals everywhere and Tibetan Buddhism is not the only sec that has this kind of problem. They are more exposed because they are active in the Western world where sexual harassment will be talked about and the victims are more fearless in standing up for themselves. Regardless, this kind of act should be exposed in order to protect the innocent from being harmed.

We are in the time where Three Jewels garner less respected due to our negative karma. People are more and more indulged in samsara where spirituality has no value over their material possessions. It is times like this that sex and desire are encouraged and people are actually ok to find sangha who do not hold their vows strictly because their actions match samsara.

At times like this, it is even more important that we carefully examine potential spiritual guide and for them to examine potential students. The genuine intention and wish to practice dharma to benefit others should be the main criteria for both the teacher and student to focus on, instead of wealth, fame and sex.

I agree with what you said Rowntree but what's really puzzling is all this disgusting criminal activity can go on with all these lamas and the CTA does not say a damn thing. This goes to show their outward biasness and discrimination towards anything or everything the Shugden lamas and practitioners do. And probably because these Lamas are wealthy and also supports them like Sogyal and of course, because they tow the line for not practising Shugden. So in the end whether you are really acting against the law or not, you do not have to worry if you follow whatever the Dalai Lama says and do. And everyone follow the Dalai Lama simply because he is a famous, celebrity monk which the media have portrayed very well as a peacemaker, although in reality, it is not so.

I wonder when will the Dalai Lama stop talking about Dorje Shugden and start uniting his people and mend the wounds, hopefully when he goes to China and before he passed? Will he say anything when he is in China's Tibet? That is something we have to really watch out for!
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: Pema8 on September 09, 2018, 12:27:30 PM
It is really evil that these monks don't follow their vows but abuse their students! Why is the CTA, who goes around banning Buddhist practices and creating endless problems for Dorje Shugden practitioners, not stopping such behaviour?

It seems that the CTA is not interested in the well-being of people but they have a hidden agenda and only act based on their own selfish interests.

This is so disgusting! Good that DorjeShugden.com informs everyone to be very mindful and to know that you have to check and not just blindly follow.

This CTA really has only their own interests in mind. They really should stop their fake show and hide somewhere where they hurt nobody!
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: michaela on September 09, 2018, 04:03:16 PM
Update on Sogyal case - The investigation result from Lewis Silkin law firm. So sad to see such a large Dharma center which has the potential to spread pure Dharma being tainted by such scandal.

https://whatnow727.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/lewis-silkin-report.pdf
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: PrajNa on September 09, 2018, 07:39:47 PM
It is really evil that these monks don't follow their vows but abuse their students! Why is the CTA, who goes around banning Buddhist practices and creating endless problems for Dorje Shugden practitioners, not stopping such behaviour?

It seems that the CTA is not interested in the well-being of people but they have a hidden agenda and only act based on their own selfish interests.

This is so disgusting! Good that DorjeShugden.com informs everyone to be very mindful and to know that you have to check and not just blindly follow.

This CTA really has only their own interests in mind. They really should stop their fake show and hide somewhere where they hurt nobody!

This just shows clearly CTA's hidden agenda in enforcing the ban on Dorje Shugden. Why scrutinise the practice of a deity worship that was supposedly harmful to Tibet Cause, but not the lamas who are literally destroying the public's trust on Tibetan Buddhism and Tibetan lamas? His Holiness the Dalai Lama worked so hard to promote Tibetan Buddhism, and now these lamas are enjoying and abusing the fruits of labour of His Holiness. Shame. 
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: Pema8 on September 10, 2018, 03:16:58 AM
New article on the sexually abuser - good that finally, they cannot hide anymore!

Why Tibetan Buddhism is facing up to its own abuse scandal

By Joe Shute 
9 SEPTEMBER 2018

The Rigpa centre on London's Caledonian Road contains all the traditional hallmarks one might expect with Tibetan Buddhism, a religion that over the past 30 years has exploded in popularity in the West.
Occupying centre stage is a golden Buddha statue, flanked on either side by ancient Tibetan scriptures. To many western minds, these are the symbols of the most peaceful of religions, a source of spiritual awakening and appealing counterpoint to modern life – and one that has largely escaped the scandal that has dogged other institutions.
Yet on Wednesday evening the London students of Rigpa, an international network with some 100 different centres across 40 countries, gathered here to watch the announcement of a damning new report detailing “serious physical, emotional and sexual abuse” by its founder and former spiritual leader, the famous Tibetan lama Sogyal Rinpoche.  

Last year the Telegraph published a series of allegations made by eight senior and long-standing current and former students against Sogyal, whose book The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying has sold more than three million copies around the world, making him the best known Tibetan Buddhist teacher after the Dalai Lama. 
The report, undertaken by the law firm Lewis Silkin to investigate the claims at the behest of Rigpa, confirms a shocking catalogue of physical, sexual and emotional abuse by Sogyal against students. It also concludes: “senior individuals within Rigpa were aware of at least some of these issues and failed to address them, leaving others at risk”. 
Yet such allegations of widespread abuse – and subsequent cover up – within the Tibetan Buddhist community is not restricted to Rigpa alone. 

In July, Sakyong Mipham Rinpoche, the leader of the Shambhala Buddhist community – an organisation with more than 200 meditation centres globally – announced he would “step back from his administrative and teaching responsibilities” while allegations of sexual assault and misconduct are investigated. Other similar accusations are swirling around other centres elsewhere in Europe.
“There are huge cover ups in the Catholic church, but what has happened within Tibetan Buddhism is totally along the same lines,” says Mary Finnigan, an author and journalist who has been chronicling such alleged misdemeanours since the mid-80s and is a long-standing critic of Sogyal. 
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The rise and fall of Sogyal Rinpoche encapsulates many of the ongoing struggles of exported Tibetan Buddhism. His teachings offered the possible attainment of spiritual enlightenment in a single lifetime, in return for utter devotion. The student gives total obedience to the lama – a bond which, if broken, is believed to result in banishment to ‘vajra hell’, an infinity of unfortunate rebirths.
The report author Karen Baxter details widespread evidence that members of Sogyal’s inner circle – who catered for his every need, including providing massages as he fell asleep – were subjected to repeated acts of brutal violence. The lama’s wooden backscratcher was a favoured method for beating people, as was punching them in the stomach. Baxter says she has been provided with evidence of one individual being knocked unconscious, others being left bleeding and concussed. 
While the report could not find sufficient evidence to uphold some of the sexual abuse claims, including that Sogyal conducted relationships with girls under the age of 16, she does outline “significant” first-hand evidence of young women being coerced, manipulated and intimidated into providing sexual favours. 

One witness, a teenager who arrived at a Rigpa retreat seeking respite from depression and self-harm, was asked to strip a week after coming to work in the lama kitchen. When she refused, she alleges, she was beaten and then later forced into sex. 
Speaking to the Telegraph on the condition of anonymity one of the eight original complainants described how Sogyal “taught [us] to believe we were the problem, that we weren’t seeing purely.”
Another person who assisted the investigation described how victims’ “whole lives have fallen apart. The damage is huge.”
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Allegations against Sogyal Rinpoche have circulated privately for decades. In 1994, an American student using the legal pseudonym Janice Doe sued claiming he used his spiritual status to sexually and physically abuse her. The case was settled out of court for an undisclosed sum.
The report reveals in 1992 a letter was also sent to the Dalai Lama highlighting concerns about Sogyal, but he only spoke out about them last year, describing him as “disgraced”. 
Sogyal retired as Rigpa’s spiritual director a few days afterwards and is now understood to be in Thailand receiving treatment for cancer. He declined to be interviewed for the report, and instead wrote a letter suggesting he did not intend to cause harm.

In her findings Karen Baxter described one of the unnamed Rigpa managers who assisted with the report as being “guarded, hostile and inconsistent”. Another senior member of the management team was described by the lawyer as “not prepared to hold Sogyal to account”.

A statement released on September 5 by Rigpa’s ‘vision board’ and all of its individual national boards stated “we feel deeply sorry and apologise for the hurt experienced by past and present members”. The organisation has also committed to act upon all of the report recommendations, which include disassociating from Sogyal as fully as possible and removing those in leadership tainted by the scandal.
The investigation has only relied on the UK’s civil standard of proof and it remains to be seen whether any criminal charges may ensue.

But the casualties of Sogyal Rinpoche’s so-called “crazy wisdom” are now plain to see.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/09/tibetan-buddhism-facing-abuse-scandal/ (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/09/tibetan-buddhism-facing-abuse-scandal/)
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: Rowntree on September 10, 2018, 07:34:01 PM
Sogyal's negative karma comes back BIG time! He is such a disgrace of the dharma and Tibetan Buddhism! I am so disgusted with his behavior and how he spent other people's hard earned money to fulfill his desire. He enjoys woman and meat! His students went around telling people how holy and moderate he lives but in actual fact, he asked his student to buy the best part of the meat and he lives like kings with millions of cash for him to play around. He abuses his students and make them do the silliest act so-called to humiliate them but actually to vent his anger at them. He and Mipham etc. abuse the Rinpoche title and destroy the good name of Tibetan Buddhism. They should really pay off their negative karmas!
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: Rowntree on September 14, 2018, 07:58:41 PM
More news on how the Dalai Lama supported the sexual abuse among his ranks by NOT doing anything about it. How come he allowed these so-called vajra masters get away with such disgraceful behaviors? Does he have no compassion for the victims who are abused?

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The Dalai Lama is meeting victims of sexual abuse by Buddhist teachers during his visit to the Netherlands, broadcaster NOS reports.

The meeting comes in response to a request by twelve of the victims, three of whom are Dutch. They will be presenting written witness statements and are also going to hand over a petition asking for the abuse to be given wider attention in Buddhist circles.

It is the first time the spiritual leader talks to victims of sexual abuse by teachers, NOS said.

The Dalai Lama was ‘saddened’ by the reports and ‘has always condemned such irresponsible and unethical behaviour’, according to an email written by the Dalai Lama’s secretary Tseten Samdup Chhoekyapa to the Dutch victims. Students should ‘name and shame’ teachers who persist, the secretary wrote.

Accusations of abuse by Buddhist teachers have not always handled in the same way, NOS states.

‘If we are feeling uneasy in the presence of a teacher it is best to distance oneself. Rather than talk to other students sharply or divisively it is best to softly move away’, NOS quotes the secretary’s earlier advice.[/li][/list]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2018/09/dalai-lama-visiting-the-netherlands-gets-tough-with-abusers/ (https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2018/09/dalai-lama-visiting-the-netherlands-gets-tough-with-abusers/)
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: Tracy on September 15, 2018, 11:27:25 AM
The CTA and the Dalai Lama are still endorsing these lamas who have sexually abused their students, this is unbelievable. Sexual abuse is a very heavy crime, the abusers should be brought to justice, why are they not? Why is the Dalai Lama still so close with these lamas?

The CTA applies 2 different standards when it comes to sex predators and Dorje Shugden followers. Dorje Shugden followers have not done anything damaging to the Tibetan community or Tibetan Buddhism. Just because the Dalai Lama had a dream and said Dorje Shugden is not good then a ban is imposed and the Dorje Shugden followers are discriminated against in the Tibetan community. These sex predators are damaging the Tibetan Buddhism, but no one in the CTA says anything about it, the Dalai Lama also did not say anything about it. Many people will start to lose faith in Tibetan Buddhism and the Dalai Lama.

The Dalai Lama is a living Buddha, he has the ability to see what is happening, why is he not saying anything? He should know these lamas are harming people, why does he still want to be seen with them. I am actually very disappointed, I used to think the Dalai Lama is the most compassionate person in the world, it looks like I am wrong.
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: michaela on September 15, 2018, 05:12:05 PM
Well just be fair, the CTA condemns Dorje Shugden for their religious belief, but for years, they said nothing about scandalous lamas such as Sogyal. We can see what is the CTA's priorities. The CTA is just using Shugden as a scapegoat to cover their many failures. What a shame!
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: Drolma on November 26, 2018, 07:56:00 PM
It is very shocking that so many Tibetan Buddhist teachers are sexually abusing their students in the name of religion. In Tibetan Buddhism, guru devotion is very important for us to gain attainment. Guru devotion includes obeying what the guru says. But where to draw the line?

These Rinpoches are abusing the guru devotion to sexually abuse the students. They claim what they have requested the student to do is to help them progress in their spiritual path, it is to please the guru. Since many people are very new and ignorant to what guru devotion is, they will obey the guru until things are becoming too much and illogical.

The Dalai Lama has known about the sexual abuse cases many years ago but he ignores it and allows these Rinpoches to continue to abuse their students. What kind of compassion is this? So many lives are destroyed and they have made people lost their faith in the Dharma. As a spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama could have done more to protect and preserve the Buddha's teachings.
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: PrajNa on November 26, 2018, 09:45:25 PM
These Rinpoches are abusing the guru devotion to sexually abuse the students. They claim what they have requested the student to do is to help them progress in their spiritual path, it is to please the guru. Since many people are very new and ignorant to what guru devotion is, they will obey the guru until things are becoming too much and illogical.

It is unfortunate that victims usually fall prey to the teachers/lamas because they think it was part of the spiritual path. The mysticism of Tibetan Buddhism also makes victims think that being a consort is something very special.

Recently, in China, the Abbot of Longquan Temple in Beijing was alleged to have coerced nuns into having sex, overseen illegal construction work and embezzled funds. It was big news in China. In a 95-page document submitted to Chinese authorities in July, two male monks at Beijing's Longquan Temple accused Shi Xuecheng of sexually harassing and assaulting multiple female nuns.
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: Tracy on November 27, 2018, 02:00:42 PM
These Rinpoches are abusing the guru devotion to sexually abuse the students. They claim what they have requested the student to do is to help them progress in their spiritual path, it is to please the guru. Since many people are very new and ignorant to what guru devotion is, they will obey the guru until things are becoming too much and illogical.

It is unfortunate that victims usually fall prey to the teachers/lamas because they think it was part of the spiritual path. The mysticism of Tibetan Buddhism also makes victims think that being a consort is something very special.

Recently, in China, the Abbot of Longquan Temple in Beijing was alleged to have coerced nuns into having sex, overseen illegal construction work and embezzled funds. It was big news in China. However,
n a 95-page document submitted to Chinese authorities in July, two male monks at Beijing's Longquan Temple accused Shi Xuecheng of sexually harassing and assaulting multiple female nuns.

As what was prophecised, we are now in a degenerate time where the Buddhist practitioners are not as pure as before. People will use religion to gain person interest. In addition, people have wrong views on pure Buddha Dharma.

Just look at the CTA, they are also using religion to get what they want. The Dalai Lama to them is only a money making tool. If you have USD 1million, you will be able to sit beside the Dalai Lama. Why do you think the CTA cancelled the recent visit of the Dalai Lama to Botswana but made him fly to Japan?

There are also 2 disgraceful monks who are supposed to study and spread Dharma but they don't. They take money from the CTA to spread lies and negative news to smear Dorje Shugden and Dorje Shugden practitioners. They are the Tibetan monk Lama Tseta and the German monk Tenzin Peljor.
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: Rowntree on November 29, 2018, 12:36:52 AM
Imagine the Dalai Lama covering up for all these sex predators so there are donations to whatever he may need and for the CTA to corrupt. These sex predators are exposed and luckily there is karma so they stop what they are doing, like Sogyal Lakar, Sakyong Mipham, Gangten Tulku, Lama Norlha, Lama Choedak Rinpoche and Tenzin Dhonden. The Dalai Lama is now known to make friends with sexual cult such as NXIVM ‘Cult’ and praised its leader Keith Raniere who sexually abuse many women in exchange for millions of dollars.

I guess when there is politic involved, even the holy being cannot avoid from being corrupted and influenced also.
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: PrajNa on November 30, 2018, 03:59:53 AM

As what was prophecised, we are now in a degenerate time where the Buddhist practitioners are not as pure as before. People will use religion to gain person interest. In addition, people have wrong views on pure Buddha Dharma.

Just look at the CTA, they are also using religion to get what they want. The Dalai Lama to them is only a money making tool. If you have USD 1million, you will be able to sit beside the Dalai Lama. Why do you think the CTA cancelled the recent visit of the Dalai Lama to Botswana but made him fly to Japan?

There are also 2 disgraceful monks who are supposed to study and spread Dharma but they don't. They take money from the CTA to spread lies and negative news to smear Dorje Shugden and Dorje Shugden practitioners. They are the Tibetan monk Lama Tseta and the German monk Tenzin Peljor.

Yes, the fact is that for the Tibetan situation, in cases of Sogyal Lakar, it has been decades since there were complaints, but the Tibetan leadership did not take any action. It was RIGPA people who took action after so long. I wonder why? Perhaps they don't want to lose the cash cows of Sogyal's donation, as well as Sogyal's students' (westerners') donation? Or it could be simply that Central Tibetan Administration has no power over these lamas.
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: Rowntree on December 25, 2018, 04:51:35 AM
What is touching is that Rigpa in Australia, for example, continue to protect and preserve the dharma without Sogyal Lakar. They listed rules and regulations, constitutions and etc. on how to move forward themselves. I can't find the news at the moment. If anyone manages to find, please share here. It is a good example of true dharma practitioner and correct exercise of The Four Reliances:

1) Rely on the message of the teacher, not on his personality;

2) Rely on the meaning, not just on the words;

3) Rely on the real meaning, not on the provisional one;

4) Rely on your wisdom mind, not on your ordinary, judgmental mind.
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: Alex on January 01, 2019, 07:18:01 PM

As what was prophecised, we are now in a degenerate time where the Buddhist practitioners are not as pure as before. People will use religion to gain person interest. In addition, people have wrong views on pure Buddha Dharma.

Just look at the CTA, they are also using religion to get what they want. The Dalai Lama to them is only a money making tool. If you have USD 1million, you will be able to sit beside the Dalai Lama. Why do you think the CTA cancelled the recent visit of the Dalai Lama to Botswana but made him fly to Japan?

There are also 2 disgraceful monks who are supposed to study and spread Dharma but they don't. They take money from the CTA to spread lies and negative news to smear Dorje Shugden and Dorje Shugden practitioners. They are the Tibetan monk Lama Tseta and the German monk Tenzin Peljor.

Yes, the fact is that for the Tibetan situation, in cases of Sogyal Lakar, it has been decades since there were complaints, but the Tibetan leadership did not take any action. It was RIGPA people who took action after so long. I wonder why? Perhaps they don't want to lose the cash cows of Sogyal's donation, as well as Sogyal's students' (westerners') donation? Or it could be simply that Central Tibetan Administration has no power over these lamas.

This is a shame to CTA. CTA is supposed to assist His Holiness the Dalai Lama in overseeing the Tibetan lama's and to make sure that no one brings a bad name to Tibetan Buddhism. However, Sogyal's nasty behaviour has bee rumoured to be true for decades and they did not take any action to investigate the authenticity of those claims.

It is obvious that they just brush it aside, most probably because they are getting fundings from this lama. CTA is known to be very money orientated and anyone can get away with anything as long as they can provide them with donations. That is why Sogyal's case was dragged so long until finally, Rigpa decided to take the matter into their own hands. CTA is the one supposedly should have done something to reprimand Sogyal and protect the public.

Even know after Sogyal has resigned and gone into hiding, CTA still have not sent out an official announcement regarding Sogyal's case to warn the public on the evil deeds of this Tibetan Lama so that everyone can be on alert if another Tibetan Lama decided to do the same evil deed. This shows that whatever Sogyal has done to his students and how much of bad name he has brought to Tibetan Buddhism did not affect CTA at all. They are totally not bothered by it and that is why they did not carry out any follow-up actions on Sogyal's case.
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: Rowntree on January 03, 2019, 01:53:24 PM
The CTA likes samsara because that matches their greediness for money. All they want is money. They are seasoned Dalai Lama seller, so their focus is to give these sex predators favours by sending the Dalai Lama to their centres and take lots of pictures. In exchange, they get lots of money. This is why they keep quiet. They will not get any money if they expose those sexual predators.

I agree with what you said Rowntree but what's really puzzling is all this disgusting criminal activity can go on with all these lamas and the CTA does not say a damn thing. This goes to show their outward biasness and discrimination towards anything or everything the Shugden lamas and practitioners do. And probably because these Lamas are wealthy and also supports them like Sogyal and of course, because they tow the line for not practising Shugden. So in the end whether you are really acting against the law or not, you do not have to worry if you follow whatever the Dalai Lama says and do. And everyone follow the Dalai Lama simply because he is a famous, celebrity monk which the media have portrayed very well as a peacemaker, although in reality, it is not so.

I wonder when will the Dalai Lama stop talking about Dorje Shugden and start uniting his people and mend the wounds, hopefully when he goes to China and before he passed? Will he say anything when he is in China's Tibet? That is something we have to really watch out for!
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: Alex on January 14, 2019, 12:48:59 PM
The CTA likes samsara because that matches their greediness for money. All they want is money. They are seasoned Dalai Lama seller, so their focus is to give these sex predators favours by sending the Dalai Lama to their centres and take lots of pictures. In exchange, they get lots of money. This is why they keep quiet. They will not get any money if they expose those sexual predators.

I agree with what you said Rowntree but what's really puzzling is all this disgusting criminal activity can go on with all these lamas and the CTA does not say a damn thing. This goes to show their outward biasness and discrimination towards anything or everything the Shugden lamas and practitioners do. And probably because these Lamas are wealthy and also supports them like Sogyal and of course, because they tow the line for not practising Shugden. So in the end whether you are really acting against the law or not, you do not have to worry if you follow whatever the Dalai Lama says and do. And everyone follow the Dalai Lama simply because he is a famous, celebrity monk which the media have portrayed very well as a peacemaker, although in reality, it is not so.

I wonder when will the Dalai Lama stop talking about Dorje Shugden and start uniting his people and mend the wounds, hopefully when he goes to China and before he passed? Will he say anything when he is in China's Tibet? That is something we have to really watch out for!

I agree with what is being said here. There is no reason for such a huge scandal to go on for decades without anyone taking it seriously. The only explanation is that there are people who are talking about it but CTA turns a blind eye on the reports because they are getting alot of benefit from the centre or the particular lama. The only motivation that CTA has is to get as much money as they can during their term of service and then leave the problem for the next generation of leaders to deal with. All they care is just getting money for themselves.

This has been CTA's way of doing things since 400 years ago. Whoever that can give them benefit will be pardoned with even the more heinous crime while those who are a threat to them will be prosecuted with or without a valid reason. Many good lamas who are being accused of crimes that they did not do just because they post a "threat" to the government for being famous or have a large number of followers.

The negative karma that the CTA collected on behalf of the whole nation is so heavy that they have to lose their country in the end. Even after six decades of donations and assistance, they still can't get their country back. However, they are still operating the same way even after they have lost their country. I seriously do not think that they are serious in getting back Tibet especially after Lobsang Sangay extended the period of Tibetan cause to another 50 years.
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: SabS on January 15, 2019, 02:05:59 PM

I agree with what is being said here. There is no reason for such a huge scandal to go on for decades without anyone taking it seriously. The only explanation is that there are people who are talking about it but CTA turns a blind eye on the reports because they are getting alot of benefit from the centre or the particular lama. The only motivation that CTA has is to get as much money as they can during their term of service and then leave the problem for the next generation of leaders to deal with. All they care is just getting money for themselves.

This has been CTA's way of doing things since 400 years ago. Whoever that can give them benefit will be pardoned with even the more heinous crime while those who are a threat to them will be prosecuted with or without a valid reason. Many good lamas who are being accused of crimes that they did not do just because they post a "threat" to the government for being famous or have a large number of followers.

The negative karma that the CTA collected on behalf of the whole nation is so heavy that they have to lose their country in the end. Even after six decades of donations and assistance, they still can't get their country back. However, they are still operating the same way even after they have lost their country. I seriously do not think that they are serious in getting back Tibet especially after Lobsang Sangay extended the period of Tibetan cause to another 50 years.

Yes, the "threats" to the Tibetan Leaders are eliminated with trumped-up charges so that they can control these "threats". But these "threats are those who are famous or garner more sponsorships. Just like the Karmapa, now the Tibetan Leadership dare not even announce who is the right one and which is not. After promoting the Karmapa Orgyen Trinley Dorje and causing obstacles to Karmapa Thaye Dorje, the former ran away to be a citizen of Dominican Republic. Then India alleges to have charges against him and labeled him ungrateful. Strange don't you think? For one who has no interest in politics, India can sue him on trumped-up charges. Must be the great wealth Karmapa has that so many had taken interest in him. Shame really! Now we are all in #doubt again just like with Panchen Lama, Kundeling Rinpoche, Dromo Geshe Rinpoche, Serkong Rinpoche, etc. How many doubles are the Tibetan Leaders creating? Please made up your mind once and for all so that your people need not be confused and lost.
Title: Re: Tibetan Buddhist lamas who sexually abuse
Post by: Alex on February 19, 2019, 05:44:13 PM

I agree with what is being said here. There is no reason for such a huge scandal to go on for decades without anyone taking it seriously. The only explanation is that there are people who are talking about it but CTA turns a blind eye on the reports because they are getting alot of benefit from the centre or the particular lama. The only motivation that CTA has is to get as much money as they can during their term of service and then leave the problem for the next generation of leaders to deal with. All they care is just getting money for themselves.

This has been CTA's way of doing things since 400 years ago. Whoever that can give them benefit will be pardoned with even the more heinous crime while those who are a threat to them will be prosecuted with or without a valid reason. Many good lamas who are being accused of crimes that they did not do just because they post a "threat" to the government for being famous or have a large number of followers.

The negative karma that the CTA collected on behalf of the whole nation is so heavy that they have to lose their country in the end. Even after six decades of donations and assistance, they still can't get their country back. However, they are still operating the same way even after they have lost their country. I seriously do not think that they are serious in getting back Tibet especially after Lobsang Sangay extended the period of Tibetan cause to another 50 years.

Yes, the "threats" to the Tibetan Leaders are eliminated with trumped-up charges so that they can control these "threats". But these "threats are those who are famous or garner more sponsorships. Just like the Karmapa, now the Tibetan Leadership dare not even announce who is the right one and which is not. After promoting the Karmapa Orgyen Trinley Dorje and causing obstacles to Karmapa Thaye Dorje, the former ran away to be a citizen of Dominican Republic. Then India alleges to have charges against him and labeled him ungrateful. Strange don't you think? For one who has no interest in politics, India can sue him on trumped-up charges. Must be the great wealth Karmapa has that so many had taken interest in him. Shame really! Now we are all in #doubt again just like with Panchen Lama, Kundeling Rinpoche, Dromo Geshe Rinpoche, Serkong Rinpoche, etc. How many doubles are the Tibetan Leaders creating? Please made up your mind once and for all so that your people need not be confused and lost.

Tibetan leadership is just coward to admit to their mistake to not have announced who is the real Karmapa and they are creating these doubts in people with the purpose of dividing the community so no one will be able to post as a threat to their leadership. For CTA, profits and benefits come first and there is nothing else that is more important.

They are willing to put His Holiness's reputation on the line by siding with the lamas who sexually abuses their students just like Sogyal. Sogyal has been abusing his students for decades and the CTA kept quiet about it. They are willing to pardon a monster like Sogyal just because he is close to His Holiness the Dalai Lama and he has been supporting the CTA.

So many students are abused and the CTA do not care for them. Since the news is out, Tibetan Buddhism took a heavy blow and more people have doubts about the Teacher & disciple relationship now. CTA does not care about that and all they care is the money that they will lose if Sogyal's nasty dees is being exposed.