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An article from the Hindu that mentioned the Dalai Lama’s statement that Tibet can be part of China if Beijing guarantees the region’s culture and autonomy.
The Dalai Lama also mentioned that Tibet could benefit economically by staying in China and Chinese citizens could gain from Tibetan Buddhism.
The Dalai Lama is likely to tour India throughout the year although back in March it was mentioned that the Dalai Lama would cut down his travel due to exhaustion.
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Tibet can be in China: Dalai Lama
Says times have changed and economic cooperation is a rational option
Tibet can remain a part of China, if Beijing guarantees the region’s culture and autonomy, the Dalai Lama said on Sunday. Tibet could benefit economically by staying in China and Chinese citizens could gain from Tibetan Buddhism, he said in a lecture to commemorate the 60th anniversary of his exile to India.
Tibet could benefit economically by staying in China and Chinese citizens could gain from Tibetan Buddhism, he said in a lecture to commemorate the 60th anniversary of his exile to India. “Historically and culturally, Tibet has been independent. The region’s geography shows where Tibet begins. So long as the constitution of China recognises our culture and Tibetan autonomous region’s special history, they can remain [part of China],” he said in the lecture organised by the Nehru Memorial Museum and Library and the Antar-Rashtriya Sahayog Parishad.
The lecture is one of the events planned to celebrate the anniversary of the Dalai Lama’s arrival in India in the late 1950s. The celebrations began earlier this month with a big event at Dharamsala. The Dalai Lama is likely to tour India throughout the year.
However, the Dalai Lama underscored the importance of Tibetan identity and argued that Tibet had been an independent unit in the past, and therefore had a special place in the world. The times had changed, he said, and economic cooperation was the more rational option.
“There was a time when every French looked at the Germans as enemies. But today they are in the European Union. Similarly, we can work together,” he said.
Modi-Xi meet
His remarks are significant as he avoided mentioning Tibetan independence and explained how cooperation and unity could usher in development and peace. The statements are also expected to set the background for the talks between Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping, who will have an informal summit on April 27 and 28, the first meeting since China removed the term-limit for the post of President.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/tibet-can-be-in-china-dalai-lama/article23638823.ece (http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/tibet-can-be-in-china-dalai-lama/article23638823.ece)
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His Holiness has said this many times but to China, Tibet has always been part of the motherland. China is also in dispute with India on Arunachal Pradesh and some parts of Assam and claimed those states as South Tibet. China is obnoxious in claiming for lands that may not necessarily theirs. In addition, China is also ignoring the 17th point contract, the McMohan Line etc. and did not carry out any of the agreement signed. I wonder what His Holiness has in mind in working with the Chinese since he is labeled as the separatist and openly criticised the Chinese leadership, among all others, including Trump.
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Given the timing of such loaded statements from the Dalai Lama, it is as if the Dalai Lama is sick and tired of CTA and doing his own thing to shake things around. After all, the Dalai Lama has nothing to lose by issuing such statement to further his goal of returning to China – it looks like he subtly “giving face” to China with his eagerness to return ( and we know “face” is a big thing for China) or CTA will be pressurised to do something as India would definitely not be happy with such open “courting” of China without due regard to the sensitivity with India.
This is especially bearing in mind India’s border dispute with China. In particular, the dispute over Arunachal Pradesh (which China claims as Southern Tibet). Regardless of the Dalai Lama's indicating for China's respect of Tibet's special autonomous history, it is not unforeseeable that as part of the conditions for his return to Tibet, China would insist on the Dalai Lama agreeing that Tibet was always part China (hence, agreeing that historically Tibet was not independent). This would further China’s claim but disastrous for India’s claim – if Tibet was never independent/sovereign then the historical border agreement which established the McMahon line marking the borders of India and Tibet, would be invalid since Tibet has no rights/authority to enter into such agreement back then. Needless to say, this would be very damaging to
India’s claim and India would definitely not be pleased (even at this very real potential risk to India's claims)
As such, the Dalai Lama’s statements have the effect of cornering CTA to really work and deliver on their promises about returning to Tibet (instead of just paying lip service) since there is a real risk of India getting “fed up” with the antics of Tibetans and even with such “betrayal” and retracting all the generous support and subsidies.
Either way, with the Dalai Lama’s loaded statements, things are forced to move (at least a little) instead of just remaining stagnantly status quo at the hands of CTA.
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I wonder what His Holiness has in mind in working with the Chinese since he is labeled as the separatist and openly criticised the Chinese leadership, among all others, including Trump.
Haha it's funny you should mentioned that Rowntree, I have also thought of the same things. The Dalai Lama has changed his tune so many times and has said differently in different occasions to different media to a point no one is taking him seriously anymore. Definitely, not China. Instead they have been tightening their grip on Tibet even more!
Saw this and reposting it here:
The window of opportunities for Lobsang Sangay to beg for sympathy funds is closing. Japan, one of the few strong nations who supported the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA) and its lost Tibetan cause is now aligning herself with China. Japan jumping on the bandwagon like the rest of the world is a clear sign that the Tibet issue is of little significance to Japan's national interest. There are proven track records of nations that prospered after they partnered with China, but there is none to show when it comes to the CTA.
It is bad to be seen with the the Tibetan leadership and only trouble will ensue when associating with the CTA. India, the host of Tibetan refugees for 60 years recently slighted the Tibetan leadership claiming "sensitive time in the context of India's relations with China". Not long after, Indian and Chinese companies signed commercial deals worth nearly $2.36 billion. The Chinese Foreign Ministry also stated that it attaches great importance to developing relations with India. Smart leaders will choose to disassociate with the CTA for obvious reasons.
Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-16/china-and-japan-revive-economic-dialogue-amid-u-s-trade-threats (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-16/china-and-japan-revive-economic-dialogue-amid-u-s-trade-threats)
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I think when the Dalai Lama starts his journey back to Tibet, many Tibetan in exile will start moving back to Tibet.
China has so much to offer to Tibetans, being the land of opportunity and China has made so much investments into Tibet, infrastructure and etc.
Given that the Dalai Lama has requested to head back to Tibet, unthinkable in the past but this reality is a lot of more real and is coming true in time.
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The Dalai Lama can say all he wants but does China want the Dalai Lama and the Tibetans in exile back in Tibet? Many of the Tibetans still wish for independence (China calls them separatists). By accepting the Tibetans back in Tibet, it will be a burden to China as they have to monitor the Tibetans even closer.
As it is, look at how much security measurement China has to put in Tibet. Many Tibetans here are brainwashed by the CTA to make troubles and create social instability in China. For example, the Dorje Shugden ban, even though the ban is imposed outside of China but Tibetans in China also discriminate against the Dorje Shugden followers and it has created some social problems. The Chinese government has no choice but to restrict the entry of foreigners to a certain area in Tibet just to ensure negative influence is kept at its minimal.
Lobsang Sangay is very arrogant, he will not want to report to anyone, especially the Chinese officials. He may seem to agree to the Dalai Lama's Middle Way approach, but he will not want to work on it. The main reason is that he is not competent and not capable, the Chinese government will not give him a position in the government should China agree to have them back in Tibet. Knowing this, Lobsang Sangay has to support Rangzen so he has more time to make money for himself before the CTA is dissolved due to the political situation.
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On the contrary, if the Dalai Lama returns to Tibet China, he would no longer be considered as a separatist, and he would be the calming force in Tibet. In addition, China as an influential country would protect the Dalai Lama's safety and prestige. It would be a good thing for the Dalai Lama to return to China.
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On the contrary, if the Dalai Lama returns to Tibet China, he would no longer be considered as a separatist, and he would be the calming force in Tibet. In addition, China as an influential country would protect the Dalai Lama's safety and prestige. It would be a good thing for the Dalai Lama to return to China.
Yes I would think so too and I am sure Dalai Lama would need to stop talking about DS because China wants religious harmony and freedom. They do not want him to be the separatist they call him out to be. So hopefully this will be the end of discriminating Dorje Shugden!
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This is not a big shocker after all. H.H Dalai Lama has been saying that he wants to go back to China on several different locations and different tones. However, the latest incident where H.H Dalai Lama talks about this is quite firm. He clearly said that Tibet can help China spiritually and China and help Tibet materialistically. This is a huge slap on India's face.
India has been helping the Tibetan since 60years ago. Giving them land, protection and resources to build up their settlement. The Tibetans did not give anything back to India, no help, no money, no gratitude. They just organise a cheapskate Thank you India event which recently got downsized by the Indian Government. This shows that Indians are not happy with them anymore.
The Rangzen people are another group that will be affected by this. Tens and thousands of people around the globe has been supporting the Tibetan Cause , giving their money and effort to the cause and now all those effort had gone to waste.
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The Tibet issue is getting very complicated. Every one is answerable to their own stakeholder. On top of that, everyone has their own agenda.
1. The Rangzen group: for the past 60 years, they have been asking for financial assistance from the west and they get millions and millions of fund every year. Even if they think the Tibet cause is not possible to succeed, they cannot admit it or call it off because they are answerable to those who have been giving them the money. So they have to make sure they organise protests, workshop, talks and other activities mainly to put China down.
2. The CTA: On the surface, they mislead people into thinking they are loyal to the Dalai Lama and will do what he says. But their action is opposite from what the Dalai Lama wants. The Dalai Lama wants Tibet to be autonomous but until today, we don't see the CTA making any effort to make this happens. What they regularly do is to continue to condemn China. They want Tibetans to remain as refugees so they can seek fund from the west. It seems like what the CTA wants is not the success of Tibet cause, is not the autonomous status for Tibet, it is to make more money for themselves while they still can.
3. The Dalai Lama: He knows the Tibet cause will not succeed. In order to fulfill his promise to the Tibetans in exile, the next best thing to do is to compromise and thus the Middle Way approach. He doesn't care if he is going to offend those who have given him the money. At this moment, he worries more about the future of the Tibetans in exile.
Out of the 3 groups, only the Dalai Lama thinks of the future of the Tibetans in exile. Even though he keeps saying he wants to go back to Tibet but I think the real reason is he wants to bring the Tibetans back to Tibet. Once China accepts the 14th Dalai Lama, the Tibetans in exile will also be accepted.
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The Tibet issue is getting very complicated. Every one is answerable to their own stakeholder. On top of that, everyone has their own agenda.
1. The Rangzen group: for the past 60 years, they have been asking for financial assistance from the west and they get millions and millions of fund every year. Even if they think the Tibet cause is not possible to succeed, they cannot admit it or call it off because they are answerable to those who have been giving them the money. So they have to make sure they organise protests, workshop, talks and other activities mainly to put China down.
2. The CTA: On the surface, they mislead people into thinking they are loyal to the Dalai Lama and will do what he says. But their action is opposite from what the Dalai Lama wants. The Dalai Lama wants Tibet to be autonomous but until today, we don't see the CTA making any effort to make this happens. What they regularly do is to continue to condemn China. They want Tibetans to remain as refugees so they can seek fund from the west. It seems like what the CTA wants is not the success of Tibet cause, is not the autonomous status for Tibet, it is to make more money for themselves while they still can.
3. The Dalai Lama: He knows the Tibet cause will not succeed. In order to fulfill his promise to the Tibetans in exile, the next best thing to do is to compromise and thus the Middle Way approach. He doesn't care if he is going to offend those who have given him the money. At this moment, he worries more about the future of the Tibetans in exile.
Out of the 3 groups, only the Dalai Lama thinks of the future of the Tibetans in exile. Even though he keeps saying he wants to go back to Tibet but I think the real reason is he wants to bring the Tibetans back to Tibet. Once China accepts the 14th Dalai Lama, the Tibetans in exile will also be accepted.
Well, the Dalai Lama has was a rangzen himself in the beginning. He changed to middle way later when he realized rangzen is impossible. However, patriotic Tibetans continue to fight for rangzen in hope to regain their country. Many people self-immolated because of that. If the Dalai Lama returns to Tibet, it is a huge slap on the face of those who sacrificed for rangzen. If Dalai Lama had to go back China eventually, why did he even bothered to flea in the first place?
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China is obnoxious in claiming for lands that may not necessarily theirs.
Hardly more obnoxious than US claim for Hawaii, or for the lands stolen from Native American tribes, and so forth.
In addition, China is also ignoring the 17th point contract, the McMohan [sic] Line etc.
And rightly so, as China did *not* sign the Shimla Convention. Tibetans themselves rejected the McMahon line. Even the British rejected it until 1937.
and did not carry out any of the agreement signed.
Lying does help your cause. China did not sign it.
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I agree that the Dalai Lama is fed up with the CTA and just want to get away from Dharamsala and back to Tibet. This would be such good news for the Tibetans who are waiting for the Dalai Lama to come back!
It has been so long and the CTA has done nothing for the reconciliation with China but only creating problems! I really hope the Dalai Lama's wish will manifest swiftly and he can go back to Tibet.
Now, what will the CTA do, when the Dalai Lama goes back? Well, I think it is bye bye time for the CTA because there will be nobody left in India who they can bully. So, all alone, the CTA can just dissolve. Wouldn't that be good news?? No more scandals for the Dalai Lama, at least no more from the CTA...
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YES! If His Holiness goes back to Tibet, CTA will have their fate sealed. China will definitely won't let them hang around to create problems for them. Then, His Holiness will finally have some peace and no one to create trouble behind his back.
Actually, come to think of it, this is the best solution for Tibetans. His Holiness is truly a wise politician to be able to think for the true benefits of Tibetans around the world. His Holiness might be the one who orchestrated all of these to remove factors that will further harm the Tibetans. Tibetan government has proven themselves to only bring troubles to Tibetans. Before they lost their country, Tibet has not developed much and a lot of corruption. Tibetan Government has been rampant and they do whatever they want without any consequences. They had even gone as far as persecuting highly attained lamas and assassinating them just to take over their power and wealth. This has created a lot of negative karma for the whole nation.
After they have lost their country, the Tibetan Government certainly did not learn their lesson and keep doing their evil deeds. In India, they keep their people for 60years as a refugee to generate pity funds from all over the world. They literally do not need to do anything to get money. Kind people all over the world was fooled by the poor me image that the CTA has been showing the world. They intentionally made it hard for their people to get any form of citizenship from any country so they will be trapped in Tibetan settlement in India and forever remain as a refugee to serve their purpose.
Tibetan government has to go and His Holiness knows it. He is making it happen by saying he wants to be under China where the welfare of the Tibetans can be truly protected.
Long Live His Holiness.
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I agree that the Dalai Lama is fed up with the CTA and just want to get away from Dharamsala and back to Tibet. This would be such good news for the Tibetans who are waiting for the Dalai Lama to come back!
It has been so long and the CTA has done nothing for the reconciliation with China but only creating problems! I really hope the Dalai Lama's wish will manifest swiftly and he can go back to Tibet.
Now, what will the CTA do, when the Dalai Lama goes back? Well, I think it is bye bye time for the CTA because there will be nobody left in India who they can bully. So, all alone, the CTA can just dissolve. Wouldn't that be good news?? No more scandals for the Dalai Lama, at least no more from the CTA...
If I were the Dalai Lama, I would be very fed up as well. The Dalai Lama has expressed his wish to go back to China but the CTA still has not done anything to help to fulfill Dalai Lama's wish. The Dalai Lama was so fed up that he sent Samdhong Rinpoche to go to China secretly to meet with some Chinese officials.
Lobsang Sangay and the CTA are definitely not thinking about reconciling with China. If they do, they would not have traveling around the world to make friends with the free Tibet activists. They should announce to everyone that they are not pursuing the free Tibet movement anymore and they want to go back to China. If China is pleased, he might be allowed to go back before he becomes too old.
If Lobsang Sangay and the CTA really wants to fulfill the Dalai Lama's wish, they should stop visiting other countries and make an announcement that they are not pursuing the free Tibet movement anymore. They should work with India to connect with China. By doing this the CTA can also help to improve the relationship between China and India. This will be more sincere and better than their Thank You India event.
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I agree that the Dalai Lama is fed up with the CTA and just want to get away from Dharamsala and back to Tibet. This would be such good news for the Tibetans who are waiting for the Dalai Lama to come back!
It has been so long and the CTA has done nothing for the reconciliation with China but only creating problems! I really hope the Dalai Lama's wish will manifest swiftly and he can go back to Tibet.
Now, what will the CTA do, when the Dalai Lama goes back? Well, I think it is bye bye time for the CTA because there will be nobody left in India who they can bully. So, all alone, the CTA can just dissolve. Wouldn't that be good news?? No more scandals for the Dalai Lama, at least no more from the CTA...
If I were the Dalai Lama, I would be very fed up as well. The Dalai Lama has expressed his wish to go back to China but the CTA still has not done anything to help to fulfill Dalai Lama's wish. The Dalai Lama was so fed up that he sent Samdhong Rinpoche to go to China secretly to meet with some Chinese officials.
Lobsang Sangay and the CTA are definitely not thinking about reconciling with China. If they do, they would not have traveling around the world to make friends with the free Tibet activists. They should announce to everyone that they are not pursuing the free Tibet movement anymore and they want to go back to China. If China is pleased, he might be allowed to go back before he becomes too old.
If Lobsang Sangay and the CTA really wants to fulfill the Dalai Lama's wish, they should stop visiting other countries and make an announcement that they are not pursuing the free Tibet movement anymore. They should work with India to connect with China. By doing this the CTA can also help to improve the relationship between China and India. This will be more sincere and better than their Thank You India event.
Come to think of it, the only escape for all Tibetans all along from their current situation in India is to go back to Tibet or join India as a citizen. India had made it very easy for Tibetans who are born in India to become an Indian citizen. They can enjoy the benefits offered by the Indian government and there is hope for a better future for them.
Other than that, they can choose to return to Tibet since Tibet is getting better now. China has been investing alot of money into Tibet building infrastructure and developing it. They also spend a lot in giving free learning class for the adults to acquire a skill that is useful for them to earn a living.
The decreasing number of Tibetans from Tibet seeking asylum in India had decreased dramatically and this shows the condition in Tibet is becoming better now. Tibetans should abandon their government who did nothing for them and exploited them for all these years to fight for their future. They treasure the chances well before India or China change their mind.
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It is really not up to the Dalai Lama to say if Tibet can be with China. To China, Tibet has always been part of China and they don't need permission to for Tibet to be part of it. It was only the Tibetans who think they were independence before the Chinese came.
I think the Dalai Lama also realises there are fewer Tibetans coming to India. Their community will be getting smaller and smaller. Many have migrated and some have chosen to become the Indian citizens. The younger generation will prefer India to China. There is no point to maintain a Tibetan community. Therefore, going back to Tibet for the Dalai Lama will be a better option.
If China really allows the Tibetans to go back, I don't think the number of returning Tibetans will be a lot. They are more used to life in India than in Tibet. Tibet is very different from 60 years ago, things have changed so much, the older generation might not be able to adapt to the new Tibet.
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It is really not up to the Dalai Lama to say if Tibet can be with China. To China, Tibet has always been part of China and they don't need permission to for Tibet to be part of it. It was only the Tibetans who think they were independence before the Chinese came.
I think the Dalai Lama also realises there are fewer Tibetans coming to India. Their community will be getting smaller and smaller. Many have migrated and some have chosen to become the Indian citizens. The younger generation will prefer India to China. There is no point to maintain a Tibetan community. Therefore, going back to Tibet for the Dalai Lama will be a better option.
If China really allows the Tibetans to go back, I don't think the number of returning Tibetans will be a lot. They are more used to life in India than in Tibet. Tibet is very different from 60 years ago, things have changed so much, the older generation might not be able to adapt to the new Tibet.
Tibetans are bound to go back to Tibet one day. It is very difficult for them to be a refugee for 60 years and still no progress in getting their country back. Now that Mr Lobsang Sangay announced that Tibetan cause will continue for another 50 years, Tibetans will be a refugee for a whole century. Where on earth a refugee will remain as the refugee for over 100 of years.
Only the Tibetans are able to pull it off because of the generosity of India. India has been and is still very kind to them and that is why they are able to take advantage of them. They do not contribute to anything that India does. They are exempted from tax but still get so much of aids and resources from the government.
Soon India will be fed up the Tibetans taking advantage of them. The Indians are already unhappy with them being in their country because they are creating problems for India to have a good relationship with China. Indians will certainly not let Tibetans jeopardise their future with China and they might even consider to kick them out of the country to protect the future of its 1.3 billion citizens.
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I have a Tibetan friend who was born and grew up in India. I have asked her before what she feels about the free Tibet movement? If she will go back to Tibet with the Dalai Lama?
She told me the free Tibet movement and going back to Tibet is a dream of her grandparents' generation. Even though her parents were also from Tibet, but they feel more home in India than in Tibet. They will go back to Tibet to visit but definitely not going back to settle down for good.
She said the mentality of the Tibetans are very different from theirs because of their upbringing. After all, they are brought up in a different system. She said not doubt Tibet is very different now but she sees India as her home. She does not believe in the free Tibet movement, she thinks this is used by the western power to fight with China and her leadership is useless.
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To be honest, I think it is better for the Tibetans to go back to China. At least the Chinese government doesn't impose a ban on a belief like the CTA. They actually give more religious freedom to their people than the CTA!
To the Chinese government as long as the religious practice does not go against the values and the rules of the country, they are fine with it. The most important thing is the faith that is practiced cannot create disharmony and affect the stability of the society. The religion should encourage harmony and loyalty to the country, which is normal even in other countries.
The Chinese government disallows the photo of the Dalai Lama to be displayed or items related to the Dalai Lama in China because he has created a lot of problems for China. His Free Tibet movement has caused disharmony and tension in the Tibetan area in China. It is the negative influence from the Dalai Lama that the Chinese government is trying to avoid, not so much of religious freedom or human rights issue.
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It is about that for Tibetans to go back to Tibet under China. There is no use for them to resists and there will only be a better life waiting for them in Tibet. After 60 years of being in Tibetan settlement in India, there is obviously no chance or whatever in the for them to get back Tibet's independence. They will have to live with the fact that Tibet is under China now.
However, it is also His Holiness's wish to have Umaylam. Since Rangzen is not possible anymore, Umaylam is the best next thing that they can achieve. It is very important for Tibetans to return to Tibet because it is their home and only there that their identity of being a Tibetan can be preserved.
They integrate into India or a foreign country, it will be very hard for them to maintain their identity being a Tibetan. Other than that, being with China will prevent the Tibetans from being further exploited by the Tibetan government when His Holiness is not around to protect anymore.
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I just find it strange that the Dalai Lama should say that Tibet can be with China when it is already part of China for the past 60 years. It is not his permission to give anymore. Is it only to appease the Tibetans who are still defiant of Chinese rule? Or just to look good for China to allow him back home? There are many Tibetans who had returned home and is living in prosperity now. Those who are still in the refugee camps live in squalid conditions without any hope to pay for their change of status. Heavy payment for believing and trusting in the Tibetan Leaders. CTA had never cared for them as they are not Tibetan identity card holder but holders of foreign countries' passports. Sikyong Lobsang Sangay is American with an American passport taking American money and doing American dirty work of antagonizing China so those who wish to return home will never be able to do so.
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I just find it strange that the Dalai Lama should say that Tibet can be with China when it is already part of China for the past 60 years. It is not his permission to give anymore. Is it only to appease the Tibetans who are still defiant of Chinese rule? Or just to look good for China to allow him back home? There are many Tibetans who had returned home and is living in prosperity now. Those who are still in the refugee camps live in squalid conditions without any hope to pay for their change of status. Heavy payment for believing and trusting in the Tibetan Leaders. CTA had never cared for them as they are not Tibetan identity card holder but holders of foreign countries' passports. Sikyong Lobsang Sangay is American with an American passport taking American money and doing American dirty work of antagonizing China so those who wish to return home will never be able to do so.
You are right to say that Tibet does not belong to the CTA or the Dalai Lama. Tibet has been part of China for the past 60 years and looks like it will remain the same. Tibet will never be independent. Tibetans have to accept the fact that they can be an autonomous region but they can never be an independent state.
Under the ruling to China, the life of the Tibetans have improved tremendously, they are no longer backward. Many nomads have a more stable life now as they are more exposed to the outside world. Many Tibetans are not as naive as before, they have the opportunities to receive education and improve their lives if they work hard.
The CTA on the other hands has not made any positive change in the Tibetans' life. After 60 years they are still refugees, they still don't have an identity. But most of the people in the CTA even though claim to be fighting for Tibet cause but all of them have a passport of another country. They let the normal Tibetans suffer while they have big plans for themselves.
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I just find it strange that the Dalai Lama should say that Tibet can be with China when it is already part of China for the past 60 years. It is not his permission to give anymore. Is it only to appease the Tibetans who are still defiant of Chinese rule? Or just to look good for China to allow him back home? There are many Tibetans who had returned home and is living in prosperity now. Those who are still in the refugee camps live in squalid conditions without any hope to pay for their change of status. Heavy payment for believing and trusting in the Tibetan Leaders. CTA had never cared for them as they are not Tibetan identity card holder but holders of foreign countries' passports. Sikyong Lobsang Sangay is American with an American passport taking American money and doing American dirty work of antagonizing China so those who wish to return home will never be able to do so.
You are right to say that Tibet does not belong to the CTA or the Dalai Lama. Tibet has been part of China for the past 60 years and looks like it will remain the same. Tibet will never be independent. Tibetans have to accept the fact that they can be an autonomous region but they can never be an independent state.
Under the ruling to China, the life of the Tibetans have improved tremendously, they are no longer backward. Many nomads have a more stable life now as they are more exposed to the outside world. Many Tibetans are not as naive as before, they have the opportunities to receive education and improve their lives if they work hard.
The CTA on the other hands has not made any positive change in the Tibetans' life. After 60 years they are still refugees, they still don't have an identity. But most of the people in the CTA even though claim to be fighting for Tibet cause but all of them have a passport of another country. They let the normal Tibetans suffer while they have big plans for themselves.
Lobsang Sangay had extended the fight for Tibetan cause for another 50 years and it will most probably be the same. An additional 50 years will not make any difference to them because the leadership is still the same because the Tibetan leadership that is fighting for their independence is still the same group of people that were fighting for it for the past 60 years?
If they can't even get progress in 60 years, what makes you think that they can do it in another 50 years? Everyone will be dead in 50 years and the problem will be thrown to another group of young Tibetan leaders to solve. I am sure Lobsang Sangay is thinking about it and that is why he has extended the fight. He is not willing to take the responsibility that the fight is a failure.
This is how sneaky he is. Just like how he is being caught with several sexual assault claims and yet he still shamelessly remained as the president of the Tibetan leadership without making any apology or statement. He just brushed it aside and Tibetans actually let him get away with it.
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If they can't even get progress in 60 years, what makes you think that they can do it in another 50 years? Everyone will be dead in 50 years and the problem will be thrown to another group of young Tibetan leaders to solve. I am sure Lobsang Sangay is thinking about it and that is why he has extended the fight. He is not willing to take the responsibility that the fight is a failure.
This is how sneaky he is. Just like how he is being caught with several sexual assault claims and yet he still shamelessly remained as the president of the Tibetan leadership without making any apology or statement. He just brushed it aside and Tibetans actually let him get away with it.
Yup, you are right. Lobsang Sangay is an extremely sneaky person. He deliberately suppresses smart young potentials to run the country so that he can remain in power longer. There are no possible candidates who are smart enough to take over as Sikyong. He is not going to let his ludicrous scam begging to be taken away anytime soon. He is also no longer listening to the Dalai Lama's wishes either. What does he care for the Dalai Lama to return home before he passes when in keeping the Dalai Lama around will generate more funds for Lobsang Sangay's pocket? It is actually also the Tibetan refugees' fault as they had allowed this to happen. If they were to unite and not accept wrongness, then they could have gotten a better candidate for leadership. Blind followers.
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This is how selfish the CTA is, it is not that the Tibetans are not bright or capable but the CTA just doesn't want to groom any talent because they don't want to be challenged. They still run their government based on relationship and nepotism, not based on merit. They care about their own interest, they don't think they work for the people, but the people have to kowtow to them.
I guess most of the members in the CTA know that they won't last for too long as there are now fewer Tibetans in the exile community. Many Tibetans have left India to become the citizens of another country. Almost no Tibetan is arriving from China to India. As the number of Tibetans continue to decrease, the money the CTA can get from the west will definitely reduce and very soon they will not be needed anymore.
The main concern for the CTA now is how to make more money, how to divert the money they have to their own pocket before CTA collapses. The donations that are supposed to be used to improve the lives of the Tibetans are never used for the intended purpose. Some Tibetans still naively think that the CTA is going to free Tibet and bring them back to their homeland.
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This is how selfish the CTA is, it is not that the Tibetans are not bright or capable but the CTA just doesn't want to groom any talent because they don't want to be challenged. They still run their government based on relationship and nepotism, not based on merit. They care about their own interest, they don't think they work for the people, but the people have to kowtow to them.
I guess most of the members in the CTA know that they won't last for too long as there are now fewer Tibetans in the exile community. Many Tibetans have left India to become the citizens of another country. Almost no Tibetan is arriving from China to India. As the number of Tibetans continue to decrease, the money the CTA can get from the west will definitely reduce and very soon they will not be needed anymore.
The main concern for the CTA now is how to make more money, how to divert the money they have to their own pocket before CTA collapses. The donations that are supposed to be used to improve the lives of the Tibetans are never used for the intended purpose. Some Tibetans still naively think that the CTA is going to free Tibet and bring them back to their homeland.
Everyone, including the Tibetans know that the Central Tibetan Administration is not fulfilling what His Holiness the Dalai Lama wants them to do - to take care of the welfare of the Tibetans. Imagine when His Holiness passes, who will take care of the Tibetans in exile? The supposed successor, the Karmapa has ran away, and Lobsang Sangay? No way 8) Even the supposed candidate for the first female Sikyong in history, Dhardon Sharling has quit and gone to the USA. Better for Tibetans to become Indian citizens, go back to Tibet, or migrate to whichever country they can go to while they still can.
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Everyone, including the Tibetans know that the Central Tibetan Administration is not fulfilling what His Holiness the Dalai Lama wants them to do - to take care of the welfare of the Tibetans. Imagine when His Holiness passes, who will take care of the Tibetans in exile? The supposed successor, the Karmapa has ran away, and Lobsang Sangay? No way 8) Even the supposed candidate for the first female Sikyong in history, Dhardon Sharling has quit and gone to the USA. Better for Tibetans to become Indian citizens, go back to Tibet, or migrate to whichever country they can go to while they still can.
The CTA cannot lie anymore, they are just ineffective. After 60 years, the blind can also see the CTA is not capable and they always make empty promises. The CTA doesn't want to take the responsibility that is why they always ask Nechung for advice. After asking for advice, they just sit there and not doing anything.
The CTA is not going to succeed because Nechung always gives the wrong prophecy and the CTA is too busy begging for free money. Well, the main reason the CTA is not working hard for the Tibet cause is that they want to continue to get free money from the west using the cause. Life has been too easy for the CTA, they will not want to change anything.
More Tibetans have realised how deceiving and hypocritical the CTA is, some of them speak up, some of them choose to leave the Tibetan community. The number of Tibetans in India has reduced a lot, a statistic that the CTA is very reluctant to release. Tibetans arriving in India from Tibet is close to zero by now. This is a very clear indication the CTA is losing support from its own people. It is probably time for the CTA to say goodbye!
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The CTA cannot lie anymore, they are just ineffective. After 60 years, the blind can also see the CTA is not capable and they always make empty promises. The CTA doesn't want to take the responsibility that is why they always ask Nechung for advice. After asking for advice, they just sit there and not doing anything.
The CTA is not going to succeed because Nechung always gives the wrong prophecy and the CTA is too busy begging for free money. Well, the main reason the CTA is not working hard for the Tibet cause is that they want to continue to get free money from the west using the cause. Life has been too easy for the CTA, they will not want to change anything.
More Tibetans have realised how deceiving and hypocritical the CTA is, some of them speak up, some of them choose to leave the Tibetan community. The number of Tibetans in India has reduced a lot, a statistic that the CTA is very reluctant to release. Tibetans arriving in India from Tibet is close to zero by now. This is a very clear indication the CTA is losing support from its own people. It is probably time for the CTA to say goodbye!
You sure hit it on the nail. The Tibetan Leaders are just too cowardly to be responsible for the decisions made and use Nechung as an excuse to carry out their laws and regulations. Which country on earth does that, relying on deities for decisions? Just like how they illogically ban Dorje Shugden's authentic practice to cover up their failures to promises made, ie. regaining Tibet within 5 years and its now urmmmm many many many years! Incidently, Dorje Shugden arose with Nechung's help, so how could these Leaders rely on Nechung and at the same time suppress Dorje Shugden whom Nechung personally helped to arise to protect Lama Tsongkapa's teachings? Just don't make sense. Either Nechung is right or he is wrong. ::)
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After 60 years, what has China accomplished and what has the CTA achieved? It is actually very obvious, China has progressed so fast for the past 30 years, from a close and poor communist country, they are becoming the most powerful economy in the world. The CTA after 60 years are still struggling with no progress in their Tibet cause, the Tibetans are still refugees, many are still living in poverty. What a big contrast!
Tibet is very developed and prosperous now, it will be wiser to keep it this way. China has done a good job in improving the lives of Tibetans in Tibet, they have brought the poverty rate down tremendously. The CTA, even though is the leader of the Tibetans but they really don't know how to run a country. They are good at begging for money, but they definitely do not know how to develop and grow the economy of a country!
Looking at the experience of the CTA, I really won't want to be ruled by them, they will make my life worse because they really cannot lead. The Tibetans in Tibet and overseas have to wake up and realise the CTA will not be able to give them a better future. They only want money and power. So much donation was given to the CTA but where are the monies? They are not reliable, they are full of lies!