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Title: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: TARA on July 06, 2015, 01:24:50 AM
Indeed Tsem Rinpoche is utterly brave to declare public his Shugden practice and his coming out is amazingly impressive and with style to join in the ranks of all the high Shugden Lamas.  He is certainly welcomed with joy by all in the Shugden world and has made great impact on all in the Tibetan Buddhist world.  Shortly after his coming out he spoke on his side of his story with Gyalchen Dorje Shugden. 

People, you have to watch his video of this charismatic and unconventional Shugden Lama!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxC6uKHM3dY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxC6uKHM3dY)

We never know what is up in the sleeve of this charismatic and powerful Shugden Lama.  We do not know what will be installed for CTA.  CTA might be getting their heart attacks in Daramsala.

http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/tsem-rinpoche-the-brave/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/tsem-rinpoche-the-brave/)
   
Title: Re: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: TARA on July 06, 2015, 01:26:31 AM
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Title: Re: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: christine V on July 07, 2015, 12:07:49 PM
I do agreed with you Tara that he is very stylish. But, I won't say that H.E "come out" but more to open to the world. LOL. , anyway, it is just a wording.

I have watched the You Tube on His encounter with Dorje Shugden, I can say that Dorje Shugen is all the while His personal practice which now he reveal due to His kindness to lift the ban. I salute his courage, which i think the CTA must be at shock now. I hope the CTA are not planning anything fishy to try to harm H.E

It is quite a shock to know that there world biggest indoor Dorje Shugden's statue placed in South East Asia. And they are building a monastery name Kechara Forest Retreat. Recently, even the well-known 7th Panglung Kuten took trances of Dorje Shugden and Kache Marpo in the monastery.

I would like to express my gratitude to H.E Tsem Rinpoche whom bravely speak out on the pain as Dorje Shugden's practitioner going through now.

 
Title: Re: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: kelly on July 08, 2015, 07:49:46 AM
Rejoice for those who attended the trance of powerful protector DS, I must said Tsem Rinpoche is a very compassion Lama because he has bring a lot of benefits to the us anyone who check it out his personal blog post will learn a lot and full of information for lay people like us to learn and do not forget is free, so he is really a Buddha of this era .Tsem Rinpoche coming out to the world is definitely a positive impact to the us as a DS practitioner.
Title: Re: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: fruven on July 13, 2015, 04:57:17 PM
Thanks for sharing the good news. Tsem Rinpoche is definitely a good role model for everyone who wants to become brave good hearted person regardless whether they are or are not Buddhist.

I agreed he is courageous to reveal what he have practiced so long and his reasons of keeping up the commitment is based on devotion to his guru and practicing the Dharma, not for his own sake but the sake all beings. Every true practitioners will keep their words of honor with their gurus. This I admire very much and working on it.
Title: Re: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: VeronicaSmith on July 14, 2015, 03:08:21 PM
Tsem Rinpoche seems like an extremely powerful Shugden Lama and I wish him the best as now he will face many obstacles and a lot of discrimination that he has opened up to the world about his practice. But I don't think that is all, he looks like he is going to give the CTA a run for their money and he looks like he is going to do it with a bit of style too judging by his picture and alter/chapel.

He is extremely brave to be open about this as many people can attack him and be against him so I applaud him and how he has been so brave to stand up for his practice which is the right thing to do. I hope with his help and his teachings and the fact that he is open now, can help lift them ban faster and I hope that he is going to be a strong contender in the lifting of this ban for the monks suffering in tibet too. There must be more to discover about this amazing Lama and I can't wait to learn and find out what he has under his sleeve.
Title: Re: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: Dondrup Shugden on July 15, 2015, 09:21:36 AM
HE Tsem Rinpoche's announcement to the world that he worships Dorje Shugden in the midst of a Ban and chaotic environment is that of a Shugden Lama who is courageous as his only aim is to benefit others.

The amount of information on the Shugden lineage from incense offerings to mantra recitation are all clearly explained and taught in his personal blog. Go read and every aspect of DS worship is available.

Thank you Tsem Rinpoche for your courage to benefit others and all the education materials now available for all who needs them. 
Title: Re: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: James Bond on July 16, 2015, 11:29:24 AM
I have already known of this in the past but reading the information again brings a smile to my face. I am happy that Tsem Rinpoche has come out with his Dorje Shugden beliefs, it has made many people happy and i am 100% sure that it will benefit many people in Kechara now and in the future.

However, because Tsem Rinpoche has come out, I personally am concerned about this Dorje Shugden Lamas security. As some of us will know, many DS Lamas are attacked in different parts of the world because the practice DS. I do not want the same to happen to my guru, Tsem Rinpoche. I wish for Rinpoche to always be protected both physically, and by Dorje Shugden himself.

Thank you TARA for the very informative post.
Title: Re: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: DharmaSpace on July 22, 2015, 08:27:08 PM
More Gelug lamas who stand for Dorje Shudgen and who come out in support of their beliefs is important to help the ban. Thank you to Tsem Rinpoche to come out without fear and in a confident manner to let the world know there is nothing wrong with Dorje Shugden practice and people.
Title: Re: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: angelica on August 02, 2015, 03:56:08 PM
Tsem Rinpoche coming out is really a good news and long waited for all Dorje Shugden practitioners. His courage to do so will inspire more practioners to have faith and continue to do Dorje Shugden. The ban has to be lifted for all to do Dorje Shugden practice in peace.

Other than announcing to the world about this practice, Tsem Rinpoche has produced a series of video about Dorje Shugden. Hopefully with these video, people have more understanding about Dorje Shugden and help in lifting the ban.

Thank you Rinpoche for coming out and may the ban be lifted peacefully thru a dialogue.
Title: Re: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: prodorjeshugden on August 03, 2015, 02:35:31 PM
It is good to see that H.E. Tsem Rinpoche is finally coming out.
I wonder what are the emotions in the CTA's office when they found out that H.E Tsem Rinpoche is openly practicing Dorje Shugden. 
Obviously  H.E. Tsem Rinpoche did not just start practicing Dorje Shugden, It must have been his practice for some time because you don't suddenly say "ooh i want to practice Dorje Shugden and then build the biggest DS Statue in the world."

H.E. Tsem Rinpoche's organisation is growing big. Recently the Venerable 7th Panglung Kuten went to visit Kechara Forest retreat and via the Panglung Kuten, Dorje Shugden and Kache Marpo came to bless the place and also to request the long life of H.E. Tsem Rinpoche. The venerable Panglung Kuten came not because he was called but because Dorje Shugden instructed him to.
Under the guidance of the venerable Panglung Kuten, Kechara's Pastors performed the prayers to invoke Dorje Shugden and Kache Marpo. All the things that needed to be done in order to invoke Dorje Shugden were done by Kecharians.
It is the first time that the Panglung Kuten took trance without the aid of Tibetan Monks.
These are all signs of how big Kechara is growing.

I really  hope that the Dorje Shugden ban will end soon.
Title: Re: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: Shugdener on August 09, 2015, 04:05:44 PM
I am very glad that H.E Tsem Tulku Rinpoche has decided to be open in him worshiping Dorje Shugden, joining the hundreds of other high profile Lamas who openly practice and pray to Dorje Shugden. The CTA must have surely  got a shock that H.E Tsem Tulku Rinpoche is openly worshiping Dorje Shugden.

There has been rumors dating back to many years ago that Tsem Rinpoche has been practicing Dorje Shugden but has never really deemed valid  because there was no evidence till this day when Tsem Rinpoche himself has openly shown to the world that he is a Dorje Shugden practitioner.

The reason why Tsem Rinpoche is putting his life on the line may not be known but I'm sure that whatever actions Rinpoche is doing, it is for the sake of lifting the ban so that we can all practice Dorje Shugden freely!
Title: Re: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: yontenjamyang on August 11, 2015, 06:41:49 AM
Tsem Rinpoche is perhaps the most visible Lama in the internet today. I have been following his blog for a few years and he come across as a genuine teacher of the Dharma. His topics are always about benefitting beings especially beings of this age.

Hence, I am surprised and at the same time rejoice when he revealed that he practices Dorje Shugden. Now we can count another high Lama as a Dorje Shugden Lama. His organisation, Kechara works very hard to bring the Dharma in the Tibetan form to the South East Asian region and via the internet to the world.

The impact of His Eminence coming out is big because of his influence and followers over the internet especially his Facebook, Twitter and blog followers. I noticed his approach to the ban is a "middle way" approach ie, respecting the Dalai Lama while practicing Dorje Shugden. This has always been my view as well and I rejoice to have a Lama who is not against the Dalai Lama except perhaps only do not agree with the ban.

His message is to follow once root Guru, that is the root of all Buddhism practice especially Tibetan Buddhism.

I hope more Lama will come on board and the Dalai Lama will finally lift the ban ti alleviate the sufferings of millions.
Title: Re: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: grandmapele on August 12, 2015, 01:06:45 PM
It is interesting that Tsem Rinpoche is the first Lama that I see on the internet expounding the 'middle way' of being a Shugden practitioner and a Lama respecting the Dalai Lama, and not demonstrating against the Dalai Lama. That must be a very tough position to be in as it won't sit well with both sides at the moment. But, if the Buddha Shakyamuni's teachings hold true, the the middle way must be the way to go.
Title: Re: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: Rinchen on September 02, 2015, 05:10:38 PM
I agree, many may not agree with the "middle way" that Tsem Rinpoche is promoting. But coming to think of it, what he is promoting makes sense as well. When we say that H.H Dalai Lama is the false incarnation, it will not be correct as well. What if the current Dalai Lama is a true incarnation? By us calling him as a false Dalai Lama, we create negative speech karma.

Ling Rinpoche and Trijang Rinpoche would know that the current incarnation is not the true incarnation if H.H Dalai Lama is not the true incarnation. How could these two great masters be his tutors and not know the truth?

With that being said, I also believe that H.H Dalai Lama is putting a ban on Dorje Shugden for a greater reason. At the same time, it is because of this ban, many people know who Dorje Shugden is. It might be that H.H Dalai Lama is using this "stunt" to make the practice bigger.

Only time will tell. We have to persevere and push on with our practices despite what is going on. As long as that we know what we are doing is correct and we are not breaking our samaya, it will be fine.
Title: Re: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: grandmapele on September 03, 2015, 08:05:06 AM
"With that being said, I also believe that H.H Dalai Lama is putting a ban on Dorje Shugden for a greater reason. At the same time, it is because of this ban, many people know who Dorje Shugden is. It might be that H.H Dalai Lama is using this "stunt" to make the practice bigger." - Rinchen

Yes, it may be for a bigger, ultimate purpose that the Dalai Lama is creating this controversy. But, nevertheless, it is painful suffering for many especially the practicing Tibetan Shugden practitioners. We cannot ignore that. If we do, then we are not true practitioners of Buddhism. We have to show kindness if not compassion and ease their pain wherever we can, even if it is just to show that we empathize with their pain and struggle, their being displaced twice; first from their country and second from their community in exile.

This world, Samsara is suffering, so we need not make it worse. The various individuals that hold a dying man's hand, that give a helping hand or just simply feed a hungry man are precious. Why can't more be like that?
Title: Re: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: James Bond on September 16, 2015, 03:14:23 PM
Tsem Rinpoche is one of the most powerful Shugden Lamas out there. His coming out has surely increased the progress to the lifting of the ban drastically. Not only is he an enlightened being, but he has touched many people with Dorje Shugdens practices. The work that Tsem Rinpoche does is incredible. He dedicates his life towards the lifting of the ban and to increase peace within Dorje Shugden practitioners.

I know for a fact that Tsem Rinpoche will continue to introduce Dorje Shugden practices to many more people wherever he may go. Thank you.
Title: Re: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: DharmaSpace on September 19, 2015, 12:59:40 PM
The videos that are prepared by his organization are a joy to watch and informative.

The videos are presented clearly and is very factual and flows nicely. Thank you Tsem Rinpoche and organization wherever you choose to manifest your buddhahood.
Title: Re: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: Pema8 on October 10, 2015, 01:38:35 PM
Wow! It is amazing that such a high Lama is forced to hide his practice for years. But now with the largest Dorje Shugden statue in the world on their land, it seems clear that it was only a matter of time before coming out and showing to the world the preciousness of the Dharma Protector of our Time.

I rejoice for the good news and hope that this is another stepping stone closer to end of the ban.
It will get clearer and clearer to everyone that Dorje Shugden has only the best for us - protection and assistance on our way to enlightenment.

i have visited Tsem Rinpoche's website - wow! a lot of information on Dorje Shugden.
Thank you - and may the ban come down quickly and no more further harm be done!
Title: Re: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: lotus1 on October 17, 2015, 10:48:54 PM
Agreed Pema8.
I just visited the blog of Tsem Rinpoche and watched the video. I also found H.E. and his students also have a series of teaching videos about Dorje Shugden in both English and Mandarin. The topics include the introduction to Dorje Shugden, the benefits, how to start the practice, the lineage, also include topics about the ban on Dorje Shugden and explanation with logic!  What an online treasures!

Dorje Shugden Teaching Videos -
http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/buddhas-dharma/dorje-shugden-teaching-videos.html (http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/buddhas-dharma/dorje-shugden-teaching-videos.html)
Title: Re: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: Dondrup Shugden on October 18, 2015, 07:35:36 AM
Since July 2015, when HE Tsem Rinpoche announced His Practice of Dorje Shugden, I have listened to the videos posted on His Blog and I am so amazed how useful the information there were. The videos are truly a treasure to current and future DS devotees.

My greatest appreciation to HE Tsem Rinpoche and His organisation. 

May CTA realise the truth of Dorje Shugden and lift the BAN and not live in denial that there is no ban.
Title: Re: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: yontenjamyang on October 20, 2015, 04:10:34 AM
Since July 2015, when HE Tsem Rinpoche announced His Practice of Dorje Shugden, I have listened to the videos posted on His Blog and I am so amazed how useful the information there were. The videos are truly a treasure to current and future DS devotees.

My greatest appreciation to HE Tsem Rinpoche and His organisation. 

May CTA realise the truth of Dorje Shugden and lift the BAN and not live in denial that there is no ban.

Tsem Rinpoche has announced his practice of the Dorje Shugden and the reason in because of his Guru Devotion. If His Guru gave him a practice and he has commitments to the practice, he cannot change rescind on his promise his Guru. Of all his 14/15 Gurus, only 2 do not practice and he asked which one to follow? Of course he follow his root Guru Kyabje Zong Rinpoche and even though the Dalai Lama is also one of his Guru, he respectfully seek the Dalai Lama to lift the ban and forgive him as his has to follow his root Guru's instruction.

Tsem Rinpoche shows the highest form of Guru Devotion and practice the middle way buy respecting both Shugden and the Dalai Lama.

In my personal opinion,  the impact is from his practice of the Dharma, particularly Guru Devotion. That is fro me the main moral to his coming out.
Title: Re: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: Tenzin K on November 28, 2015, 07:56:09 AM
Wow! Tsem Rinpoche really give a great logic explanation. I’m so grateful for his logic and rational explanation. It really clear and precise. I’m glad with this Shugden Lama that has so much courage to reveal himself and with his thought actually it guided many to the correct path of practice.

Tsem Rinpoche devotion is one of the most value I really admire and inspired. Despite so many obstacle and challenges he faced, he keep it up with only one reason which is hi devotion to his Guru.

Tsem Rinpoche indeed is a strong logical Shugden Lama that really prominent and his video teaching together with his students are remarkable. It’s very informative and useful.

Hope to see more and more Shugden Lama come out and together have a peaceful dialogue with HH the Dalai Lama to resolve this non-basis Shugden ban.
Title: Re: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: gbds3jewels on November 29, 2015, 12:52:37 AM
Tsem Rinpoche's coming out certainly brought new element into the Dorje Shugden ban. I hear a lot of cheers and positive responses from the Shugden camps. I rejoice for them. Tsem Rinpoche informative approach to the Dorje Shugden issue without using means to insult and oppress the anti-Shugden camps is refreshing. The goal seems to be in bridging the two camps as opposed to segregating them.

But it does raise questions for me as to what is the real goal of the ban, what is HHDL really thinking/planning when he imposed the ban? Are we all just mere pawns in a game of chess between the Boddhisattvas?
Title: Re: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: SabS on August 31, 2016, 08:14:03 PM
Isn't it with such compassion that Tsem Rinpoche stepped out to declare his loyalty to his Guru and his Protector practise of Dorje Shugden. I have visited his social sites many times and found him so progressive in his propitiation and spreading of the Protector practise. Taking up the stand for all Shugden practitioners, especially those in refugee settlements in India who dare not voice out, Tsem Rinpoche is currently facing so much abuse and slander in cyber attacks against him. I shudder just thinking the amount of abuse he suffers daily from all these abuses and threats. He could have remained silent on his practise but instead he chose to step forward as a Shugden Lama and help lift the illogical ban. Who else but a Buddha would do that! I must say his popularity has not wan but increased tremendously thanks to the controversy. You can see the numbers growing in the bottom left hand side of his blog. And I love the way he is so humble in his appeal to the Dalai Lama for lifting the ban rather than spewing vulgarities like those Anti-Shugdens. I have learnt so much from his blogs and hope he will continue to strongly promote the beneficial Dorje Shugden practise to the world. Thank you Tsem Rinpoche for your kindness to Shugden practitioners and take courage that we appreciate you.
Title: Re: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: pgdharma on September 01, 2016, 08:16:58 AM
I salute to H.E. Tsem Rinpoche for being brave to be open with his practice on Dorje Shugden. I hope his security is taken care of because many high lamas who were opened with their practice have been harmed, attacked and abused.

Recently, I followed H.E.Tsem Rinpoche’s blog and I find it very interesting and informative.  Despite so many difficulties and challenges, he has worked so hard to provide clear, logical information on Dorje Shugden so that with more understanding, people will be able to know the actual facts. My deepest respect to, H.E Tsem Rinpoche and his team, for producing such excellent videos on Dorje Shugden and the wealth of information on his blog:  www.tsemrinpoche.com (http://www.tsemrinpoche.com).

Thank you, H.E.Tsem Rinpoche for your compassion to benefit sentient beings and may the ban be lifted soon!
Title: Re: The Impact of Tsem Rinpoche's Coming Out
Post by: Tenzin Malgyur on September 11, 2016, 01:47:10 PM
Rejoice to read of H.E Tsem Rinpoche declaring his Shugden practice to the public. I am certainly inspired to read of Rinpoche's great devotion to his teacher. It was a real brave decision to declare to the world of his Shugden practice especially in these time, what with the ban put on by HHDL and being enforced by the CTA. I am very grateful to Tsem Rinpoche for his wonderful teachings on Dorje Shugden and especially showing us the ways to continue with our Shugden practice peacefully and harmoniously with everyone.

Sure there are a lot of criticism from many parties but I would like to compare the works and achievements of H.E Tsem Rinpoche's organization and decide for myself which teacher I want to learn from. May Tsem Rinpoche have a long and healthy life to continue to guide and alleviate all beings from sufferings.