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Title: Closing the website ?
Post by: Zach on October 26, 2014, 10:27:44 PM
Whats this I read on facebook about closing this website ?  :o
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: eyesoftara on October 27, 2014, 05:26:26 AM
It would be a real shame to close this website. I do not believe however about this news. It is just rumor and perhaps jealousy on the part of some people.

This website is the single most important website of information, news, updates and spiritual knowledge on the Dharma and especially of the Protector Dorje Shugden in the world. It is the single most important source of encouragement and inspiration for the  very devoted practitioners of the Protector; that they are not forgotten and through this website, their steadfastness increase and for all practitioners around the world to watch, discuss and congregate in these difficult times.

What sort of karma for some to wish its closure?
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: maricisun on October 27, 2014, 06:41:31 AM
Please do not close this website. It is so informative and all the facts which we need to know are all here in this site. It will be a shame to shut this down.
Anything going big and stronger will have obstacles. Please persevere and keep strong. I have been following this site for a long time and have been a strong follower of DS too.
Do consider and keep going on with all the good work you people have done till now.
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: Dolce Vita on October 27, 2014, 02:39:06 PM
I couldn't believe it when I saw the news. So much resources available here are for free, I am one of those who started practising and started learning Dharma seriously after discovering this website. This website promotes all DS lamas, shares DS news from all over the world without bias. It is truly one website that promotes Shugden. Please continue to be there for us.

Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: brian on October 27, 2014, 03:31:03 PM
Nothing else matters except for this website. Why are we closing down for there are so many out there who will potentially deprived from valuable information and updates on what's happening around in the Dorje Shugden community? This will be a major lost for everyone in the Dorje Shugden community, so i really beg admin to not close down the website and please continue all of your good works!
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: Blueupali on October 27, 2014, 04:01:49 PM
Dear DS.com staff, Admin, and those who can help keep the site open,
  Please for the sake of all living beings will you please keep this website going.  I already connected to Buddha Dorje SHugden before I came to this site, however, this has helped me connect with an international Shugden group with different lamas.  I used to be Kagyupa, so I didn't know (and am still learning) the history of the Gelugpas.  For instance, everyone kept talking about Trijang Rinpoche, but at first, I really didn't know who exactly he was or Phabongkhapa either.  I had never connected with Ganchen Rinpoche but I have a chant that my daughter and I would listen to a lot that we listen to from this site--- one is om mani padme hung and there is another one too.  Then also, I was able to watch videos from Trijang Rinpoche's school (new incarnation) and have a download of him changing Dorje Shugden puja.  If I am having a lot of obstacles, I just put him on play throughout my house, and meditate while he chants too. 
  I don't think I could have had an easy time finding out about these lamas or gaining access to Kundeling Rinpoche's talks because I would not have known who they were.  So for a nexus of information and teachings on the Wisdom Buddha Shugden, this is an indespensible site.
  Furthermore, concerning the ban, this is the best information location, because you all have a lot of original documents posted, so that people can verify for themselves what we mean by the ban.  Because there are people, including the person who banned us, that say there isn't a ban.
  I had no idea that there were problems of any sort, not from the outer appearance of the site--- also it gave people a voice and a chance to exchange information, regardless of their viewpoint.
  Please continue to run this website so we may have both information about the various teachers who propiate Shugden (many of whom are in hiding, so it is hard to hear from them otherwise) and also so we can keep up with what is going on in the Buddhist world, and what is going on with the ban.  I am sure that all the Buddhas like the different opinions to be expressed here because harmony only happens when there is more than one voice.
  Please, DorjeShugden.com, keep the site going, to benefit all living beings.
 
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: rossoneri on October 27, 2014, 06:34:16 PM
Dear Admin of DS.com, it caught me by surprise to learn that DS.com will be shut down very soon. I am in shocked and still can't believe this is happening as this is THE website which provides a lot of useful information and new news regarding Dorje Shugden practices and the truth behind it. This website is already part of my life and i think it is part of so many souls out there and this website could very well be a drop of water which is creating a ripple effect.

Please may i beg all of you who is in charge of up keeping DS.com please, please reconsider your decision.
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: DS Star on October 28, 2014, 04:57:42 AM
Dear Admin of DS.com, it caught me by surprise to learn that DS.com will be shut down very soon. I am in shocked and still can't believe this is happening as this is THE website which provides a lot of useful information and new news regarding Dorje Shugden practices and the truth behind it. This website is already part of my life and i think it is part of so many souls out there and this website could very well be a drop of water which is creating a ripple effect.

Please may i beg all of you who is in charge of up keeping DS.com please, please reconsider your decision.

I feel the same too.

This website should not be shutdown and all the behind the scene works that DS.com have been doing so long should not be stopped.

So many DS monks and highly attained masters have benefited from the constant supports and sponsorship from DS.com.

The DS community and general public need the constant feed of unbiased info and proofs of violence and unjust policies by CTA.

We all need DS.com to continue to give us hope and the motivation in our struggle to lift the ban. DS.com should not and cannot be shutdown.
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: Vajra21 on October 28, 2014, 06:39:51 AM
I mourned for my people and country when the ban was imposed as I feared the consequences would be tragic as it fitted in well with the Communists plan to to cause division and break the collective Tibetan spirit through their weak spot i.e. religion.I rejoiced when DS website came into being as it was an effective,ethical,truthful weapon against all the lies and persecution that followed the ban.It gave protection,hope, moral support and courage to many otherwise reticent victims to come forward and speak.I prayed every day for the compassionate Administrator and the others involved in this great work, a beacon for the suffering many.We eagerly looked forward to every new post, felt encouraged and it made it that much easier to face the black stares and sniggers of those who were told we were devil worshippers, the scum of the earth.I mourn now as it looks like our beloved website, our lifeline is to be cut off, Oh! Great Gyalchen why give us this great blessing and then take it away?!Please dear Administrator with folded hands I plead.....please ignore the bickerings of those oppressed by such strong negativities and obscurations  and do not close down this precious website! Please realize that the consequences of not having this protective shield will be devastating to many,particularly to the future lineage holders of Je Tsongkapa's pure unstained Dharma.
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: psylotripitaka on October 28, 2014, 06:58:38 AM
Here's a link to the announcement on the ds.com site:

http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/news/auto-draft-2/comment-page-6/#comment-198116 (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/news/auto-draft-2/comment-page-6/#comment-198116)


DEAR ADMIN - HARD WORKING TEACHERS, STUDENTS, & VOLUNTEERS,

In Lama Chopa, Dorje Shugden says:

"I seek your blessings to complete the perfection of patience, so that even if every being in the three realms, out of anger were to abuse me, criticize me, threaten me, or even take my life, undisturbed I would repay their harm by helping them".

He also says:

"I seek your blessings to complete the perfection of giving, through the instructions on improving the mind of giving without attachment..."

And:

"In short whether favorable or unfavorable conditions arise, I seek your blessings to  transform them into the path of improving the two bodhichittas..."

Though you're free to do what you feel, and since you've already received all sorts of thank you messages, forgive me for being straightforward but stop whining while you work for the benefit of all sentient beings! Stop expecting perfection in samsara! Be realistic using the mirror of Dharma - this is a wonderful opportunity for you (even if you quit, do it in retrospect) to free your activities from pollution by the 8 worldly concerns. Give up on this life, not on virtuous actions that benefit you and all living beings!

If for important practical reasons (such as not enough staff or $) you have to quit, we understand, but in your own practice (which is really the whole reason we are all here anyways) you need to stop blaming others for the hardships you are failing to transform into the path. Blame your grasping at this life, blame your samsaric rebirth, blame your self-cherishing and self-grasping, blame your ordinary appearances and conceptions. Now is the time to show your versatile strength, especially within your own minds, for that is the only reason we're really here!

The meaning of life is realization. Everything is fuel for realization.

With much love and support,
psylotripitaka
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: psylotripitaka on October 28, 2014, 07:02:57 AM
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/appreciation-letters/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/appreciation-letters/)

Quit whining
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: Tenzin K on October 28, 2014, 07:51:08 AM
Ds.com has been providing the knowledge, the fact, the lineage info, latest update, evident of the ban to world. Be it whether we are practitioners, a lot of people have been referring to this website to gain the information, knowledge, updates and event holy items for gifts or practices. It has become a portal and resources for many people in the cyber world. The accuracy of the information and facts is so important and that is what Ds.com providing. The latest update on the news of Lord Shugden matters such as the violent from the ban, new monastery opening, latest teaching from the Lord Shugden Lama those information are very comprehensive. It’s like a library to the people.

The benefits has been tremendous and for the monk like Losang Tenpa to jeopardize the website is totally not worth it at all. This monk as tremendous criminal record and for him to cheat the monastery money will lead him to an unbearable suffering. What need to be done is Ds.com continue to reveal the ‘TRUTH’ to the world through the website and continue to fight for ban to be lifted!

We whom have benefited should gather our time, energy and all our resources to support this website not just for ourself but for the people in the world, for the future of the people understand the lineage, the practice and the most important the doctrine of Je Tsongkhapa to spread.

Show our gratitude, regardless what centre we are, we are here to promote the true teaching of Je Tsongkhapa.

Pls continue the website and it’s not worth for let go as the vision and mission for this website is for a greater purpose. 
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: angelsherfield on October 28, 2014, 09:40:03 AM
I was shocked when seeing the announcement about DS.com closure. DS.com has benefited a lot people and monks with the knowledge and updated news about DS ban. DS.com has come so long and it such a waste to close DS.com. Please retain this website to allow more people benefited.
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: gohdi on October 28, 2014, 07:38:08 PM
www.duldzin.com/ (http://www.duldzin.com/)
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: pgdharma on October 29, 2014, 05:37:12 AM
Closing the website? No, please don't. This website has provided so much information and benefited so many people including me. I found Dorje Shugden through this website and through the last two to three years of learning and having faith, Dorje Shugden has helped me through many difficult periods of my life. This website is a source and a platform for those who need help in this degenerate age and I beg the Admin to please reconsider terminating this website that has given hope to so many.

To all those who have benefited from this website, I urge and beg you to please support and stop this website from closing down. Let's join force and work in harmony to support Dorjeshugden.com and the hardworking team behind who have worked so hard and spent so much money to provide us with so much  information not only about Dorje Shugden but Buddhism in general.
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: psylotripitaka on October 29, 2014, 05:45:47 AM
Closing the website? No, please don't. This website has provided so much information and benefited so many people including me. I found Dorje Shugden through this website and through the last two to three years of learning and having faith, Dorje Shugden has helped me through many difficult periods of my life. This website is a source and a platform for those who need help in this degenerate age and I beg the Admin to please reconsider terminating this website that has given hope to so many.

To all those who have benefited from this website, I urge and beg you to please support and stop this website from closing down. Let's join force and work in harmony to support Dorjeshugden.com and the hardworking team behind who have worked so hard and spent so much money to provide us with so much  information not only about Dorje Shugden but Buddhism in general.

They are being supported Pgdharma. As we all do sometimes when faced with challenging circumstances, they're just having a crybaby moment.
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: Big Uncle on October 29, 2014, 08:46:52 AM
Closing the website? No, please don't. This website has provided so much information and benefited so many people including me. I found Dorje Shugden through this website and through the last two to three years of learning and having faith, Dorje Shugden has helped me through many difficult periods of my life. This website is a source and a platform for those who need help in this degenerate age and I beg the Admin to please reconsider terminating this website that has given hope to so many.

To all those who have benefited from this website, I urge and beg you to please support and stop this website from closing down. Let's join force and work in harmony to support Dorjeshugden.com and the hardworking team behind who have worked so hard and spent so much money to provide us with so much  information not only about Dorje Shugden but Buddhism in general.

They are being supported Pgdharma. As we all do sometimes when faced with challenging circumstances, they're just having a crybaby moment.

Psylotripitaka,

That's rude. I guess you don't really care about the DS movement and/or about people's feelings. I am not the admin of this site but I am deeply concerned and I hope things would be resolved soon.
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: grandmapele on October 29, 2014, 12:51:03 PM
is sad that this website is to be closed in the near future. This is such a treasure trove of information and subsequently wisdom. Such a waste that once closed this can no longer benefit more people and be their fort in times of hardship, which is here and now.

But, kudos to Admin and all involved for a job well done over the years. Thank you for all the knowledge disseminated which, hopefully has helped a lot of people be just that little bit wiser.
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: psylotripitaka on October 29, 2014, 02:15:06 PM
Calm down Big Uncle, if you read my other post here you'd get it. A huge number of people have expressed profound gratitude including myself, but I have also taken a different type of voice to encourage them to continue. There are always going to be hardships in samsara while working for the benefit of others.
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: gohdi on October 29, 2014, 08:18:31 PM
please put your effort supporting the ISC protests. https://www.facebook.com/dalailamatruth (https://www.facebook.com/dalailamatruth) they are doing amazing job
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: christine V on October 30, 2014, 05:19:28 AM
If Ds.com website is closed. The most happy group would be the CTA.
By closing Ds.com, the victim under the ban will no longer able to sound their voices, the brutal action of CTA will not be reveal. The truth of Dorje Shugden's ban will not be known to the world. The knowledge that is FREE will not provide anymore to the world. The Dharma knowledge of Lama Tsongkhapa pure lineage will not be able to spread and learned by people who have no dharma centers in their place.

It is not just a lost to the reader of this website. But a great lost to the dharma.

Please do not close Ds.com, have mercy for the victim under the ban. Have mercy for people who have no monastery to learn dharma.  Please do not close
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: Kim Hyun Jae on October 30, 2014, 05:46:45 AM
A few solid reasons why DS.com should NOT be closed:-

a. this website provides unbiased news on Dorje Shugden from reliable sources
b. it provides authentic teachings and learning for those who are interested in practicing Buddhism and wish to get more information on it
c. the lineage of Tsongkhapa is 600 years or more is to continue, where erudite holy lamas and Gurus come from spreading the Geluk teachings to the world and for its future preservation
d. it spreads 'Peace' online via unbiased information and does not incite violent action against the Dalai Lama
e. the work on the website is to lift up the Ban on Dorje Shugden
 
May this website NEVER close and continue to benefit many more people like us. With folded hands.
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: dondrup on October 30, 2014, 08:24:33 AM
No one can imagine the amount of effort, time, money, and other resources that went into building this incredible, informative, useful, authoritative and comprehensive website on everything related to Dorje Shugden.  The originator and the working team behind dorjeshugden.com deserve the highest commendation for a job well done. We need not go into the details of the benefits one will get from using this site.  It is obvious based on the statistics of more than 1.8 millions views to date for the site.
 
As the reputation of this website grew, it started to attract attention from all levels including those who are against its missions of spreading Dorje Shugden lineage and the lifting of the ban on Dorje Shugden. The magnitude of these sacred missions are big and challenging.  I am sure the hardworking working team of this wonderful website are definitely not in for fame, praises or recognitions. The unappreciative, uncaring and lackadaisical attitudes of the users of this website and the Dorje Shugden communities towards the lifting of the ban had created unnecessary obstacles for the website working team.  The most disheartening is attacks on its work came from within rather than outside the Shugden communities! Hence, their decision to shutdown the website.  Their reasons for closure are reproduced below:
 
"Due to the distinctive lack of support and cooperation within the Dorje Shugden community to bring down the ban, promote Dorje Shugden and safeguard the Dorje Shugden monasteries, "
 
"However the lack of cohesive support within the community speaks for itself. The consistent unfounded allegations and attacks from WITHIN the Dorje Shugden community have proved disheartening. Everyone has their limits and it appears we have been pushed to ours."

I sincerely hope that the sponsors, owners, administrator and the working team reconsider their decisions to close this website. I also hope all Dorje Shugden followers to give their fullest support to this website.  May www.dorjeshugden.com (http://www.dorjeshugden.com) live long!
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: gohdi on October 30, 2014, 01:40:18 PM
On one side people say that they put a huge effort in creating this site. On the other side the danger people say that critics are stopping them. Question: What did you expect when you started this site?? Did not you expect critics right from the beginning? When engaging in dharma activities, never ever expect a ' thank you' . Please have a look to the ISC demonstrations. These people are criticized by many many people but they still continue happily. Dharma activities lead to the complete cessation of suffering. This is worthwhile accepting some critics happily. I do not believe that the Celtics are the real reason for stopping your activities
Gohdi
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: gohdi on October 30, 2014, 01:44:18 PM
Sorry for the typos
Danger people --> same people
Celtics --> critics
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: bonfire on October 31, 2014, 02:31:07 PM
This website fights for an unfair ban to be lifted.
A bias ban that created social discrimination and a great deal of suffering.
To close it down would be like a voice of fairness and justice going silent.
I do hope that it stays on and remains a platform for truth and goodness to prevail.
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: pinecone on November 02, 2014, 01:44:24 PM
We always hope and pray that we would not  have any problems, any discomfort, any pain, that makes  life seem so distressing but as long as we are still in samsara, we have no choice but to tolerate and  move on with life. Every single person, team, volunteers and sponsors in DS.com should know clearly well that  this website has benefited many ever since the existence  What are the ultimate goals in setting this website  and have the goal been achieve ?? If you due to specific circumstances and reasons you have no other choice but to  close this website,  I sincerely take this opportunity to thank DS.com for  all the updates on Dorje Shugden and you have indeed enlighten my doubts. DS.com you are the gem of all Dorje Shugden practitioners !!
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: RedLantern on November 02, 2014, 04:01:49 PM

DS.com is a wonderful and peaceful website which has benefited many people with their marvelous work providing accurate  informations and updates throughout the Dorje Shugden world.
The truth of the Dharma goes forth from this website.
Please stand united if we want to lift the Ban. Thank you DS.com and continue with your beneficial work.
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: thaimonk on November 02, 2014, 04:26:09 PM
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Why would ghodi post this here? Except ghodi is jealous and happy ds.com is closing. ghodi can never see the bigger picture nor can ghodi ever do a similar website such as ds.com. They do nothing for the cause of removal of ban and incapable of feeling anything positive for others. People like godhi show their true colors when things are not working out. They instead of helping you out of the hole, help you dig deeper.
Title: Re: Closing the website ?
Post by: fruven on November 02, 2014, 11:16:24 PM
[url=http://www.duldzin.com/]www.duldzin.com/[/url] ([url]http://www.duldzin.com/[/url])

Are you suggesting something here without saying any words?