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Title: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: dsiluvu on June 18, 2014, 02:52:42 AM
A friend just received these letters today. It is very worrying! Please circulate this to as many authorities as possible... even the FBI... this is out right threats, if it isn't I don't know what is. This is a clear indication of a hit-list sent out to Tibetan to attack 34 Tibetans who protested and the list is probably growing. Shame on you CTA. You cannot get away with murder!


Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People:
Please read the letter that I received today from The United Front of the Tibetan People - this is quite shocking. It says things like "I think we need to take action against the 34 Tibetans and teach them lesson. We need to silence them and not let them protesting." This is really unbelieveable and clear evidence of bullying and discrimation.

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Reported by Kelsang Chogyop: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=634887639912796&set=a.634887609912799.1073741832.100001746979526&type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=634887639912796&set=a.634887609912799.1073741832.100001746979526&type=1&theater)
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: Solomon Lang on June 18, 2014, 08:08:52 AM
Dear His Holiness the Dalai Lama,

Please read this, have a look at what the CTA has started, and say something, please.

With folded hands.
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: DharmaDefender on June 18, 2014, 10:28:40 AM
Well this is embarrassing. I wonder how the CTA are going to squirm their way out of this one now (uh oh, watch the false accusations come fast and furious).

What is worrisome is how easily enraged the Tibetans are. A hot-headed lot they are. Its what happens when your practice is all down to blind faith - no rhyme or reason will penetrate, such is the darkness of ignorance. And you would think what with all their insistence that just because their born Tibetan, they are Buddhist that they would have a better grasp of the teachings but sadly, in their case Mao may perhaps have been right - religion is not an opiate of the masses, but an opiate of the Tibetans for it seems to be dulled their capacity for logical and sound reasoning.
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: maricisun on June 20, 2014, 07:02:03 AM
This is indeed shocking to know that the Tibetan people are doing this to their own people. How can they be living in the same place and because of different beliefs and religion that turn them to be so violent against each other.
They said they have freedom of religion but on the other hand they threaten those who practices DS.
Those who persist on practicing are those loyal to their Guru and this shows great devotion among student and teachers. Their teachers are great Lamas and who are they to say that they are wrong about Dorje Shugden.
Do not do onto others what you do not want others to do onto you. Stop all the bullying and threatening.
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: rossoneri on June 20, 2014, 09:04:57 AM
Funny thing is these people accused Dorje Shugden practitioners of acting violence and causing harm to others even to the extend of separating Tibetan people and shorten Dalai Lama's life. But in actual fact these group of people who are using these as an excuse to cause harm to others and with these intention they are the real reason Tibetan people is separated into two groups. These letter clearly shows that the it is them who is acting violence and bullying the Tibetan people by encouraging them to act like a bunch of terrorists. I do not understand why is practicing Dorje Shugden will cause any harm to Dalai Lama since He is believed to be a Buddha himself. Moreover Dorje Shudgen is an enligthen protector who had helped Dalai Lama to escape to India. Think people...be logical. Something fishy is going on behind your so called government.
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: kris on June 20, 2014, 09:01:07 PM
When CTA published the list, the intention to harm the Dorje Shugden practitioners has already been planted, and when HH Dalai Lama's silence approval, it will only invite people to incite more violence.

BUT WHAT IS THE POINT? WHAT IS THE MAIN PURPOSE OF CTA?

Is it not CTA's purpose is to have autonomous for Tibet? Why are you spending so much time to hunt down the Dorje Shugden practitioners? Is this an easier job for you?

I urge all of you to stop donating money to CTA because the money is clearly mismanaged and misused.
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: christine V on June 21, 2014, 05:58:58 AM
So! They admit they are harmful, they admitted they hit old monk, they admitted they attacked the monastery. And, they are so proud they did all this actions.
What did the old monks did to harm them? What did the monks in the monastery did to harm them?
Nothing! And CTA hit the monks, attacked the monastery!


A government - CTA. Who can only react through actions of violent! Tibetan in Tibet really want this kind of government to go back to them?

Can their host, the Indian government stand this actions when India country are known to be democratic country?
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: DharmaSpace on June 21, 2014, 10:54:09 AM
I hope Serpom and Shar Gaden monks will be on high alert and may they wherever they may be, quickly make police reports about such threats.

CTA is capable of anything in order to have their way about things. The image of tibet being a spiritual shangri la is temporarily interrupted by visions of lay tibetans storming inside Dorje Shugden lamas compound. This just justified Trijang Rinpoche leaving India soil. He was in real mortal danger. I pray for the Dorje Shugden lamas, monks and practitioners in India. So this is the final solution of the CTA no dialogue but lets get rid of all those people.

If CTA can feel embarrassed then whatever they are doing is not quite in the WHITE, gray or black for that matter. Hence why feel embarrassed if you truly deep down think ostracizing your own people and banning this practice is the right thing to engage in? 

If GOD was truly compassionate, why would he harm us and help CTA and people who follow him. Unless he is not a compassionate GOD at all.

The people who have signed the letter can lawyers start suing them for inciting harm and violence towards Dorje Shugden people.  I hope the new Indian prime minister gets wind of this, these people are threatening people's lives.
 
Can the CTA be sued for this letter, for propagating acts of Terrorism, is this under the Homeland Security?  These letters are inciting violence and threats against a segment of society!  To show you how little the Tibetans know about Buddhism is the use of GOD, GOD who uses GOD for buddhas and enlightened beings ?

To finish all Dhogyal people, oh my goodness this sounds so much like ethnic cleansing. Can the UN people or envoys have a look at this threat of genocide against Dorje Shugden people. This is very serious.
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: vajrastorm on June 21, 2014, 12:48:46 PM
This letter threatening harm to the 34 on the hit list of CTA is incendiary. This letter also carries a clear threat to great Shugden Masters, including Kyabje Choktrul Trijang Rinpoche,  Gangchen Rinpoche, Gaden Trisur and Domo Geshe Rinpoche. There's also a further warning that this group will close down Shugden monasteries.They look every bit likely to carry out their threat of violence.
The lives of all Shugden practiitoners are in danger from them.

 Not only are the United Front of the Tibetan people threatening Shugden practitioners in this letter, they have also issued a warning to the group of Tibetans who are not toeing the line and falling in with the Dalai Lama's wishes for autonomy for Tibet and not independence. They appear to be fiercely loyal to the Dalai Lama to the extent of being willing to sacrifice their lives for the Dalai Lama.

Not only that. They even say that the CTA wants them to take action. The CTA is clearly implicated. In their state of desperation, the CTA are surely exposing themselves to much condemnation from all directions. It is to be hoped that all the eyes of the world are looking at this group who has declared their intention to hit out at Shugden practitioners in the hit list and great Shugden masters. Will this much attention  deter them?Will CTA be brought to task? Will global censure stop this group of belligerent and unreasonable Tibetans in their tracks.?

May Shugden Masters, peaceful protestors and Shugden monasteries stay safe.May the ban be lifted soon.




 
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: Midakpa on June 21, 2014, 01:54:33 PM
This group of people calling themselves the United Front of the Tibetan People are clearly fanatics. They say the Dalai Lama is their God and will "silence" those who go against him. They have a list of people they wish to  "silent". This letter must be used as evidence against them if they carry out their threats. The police must know about this group and protect those in the list. No one should take the law into their own hands, whatever the reasons.
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: dondrup on June 22, 2014, 05:02:25 PM
The United Front of the Tibetan People is taking laws into their own hands!  The letter shows so much hatred and ignorance they have towards Dorje Shugden and and His followers.  It is really sad that the ban on Dorje Shugden had created monsters in the pro-Dalai Lama supporters! These PDLS are not really interested to solve problems, they have become the problems!  How could there be peace and harmony amongst tibetans in exile if this is happening?  Instead of 'war' against the Chinese - the real enemy, these PDLS are going all out to 'finish' their own kind! What have you done CTA? You had jeopardised the lives of many innocent Tibetans who just wanted to have their religious freedom and human rights.  You had also caused many PDLS to create so much heavy negative karmas.  The truths shall prevail and the ban on Dorje Shugden will be lifted soon in the future.  When that happens, CTA, can you take full responsibility of all your wrongdoings?

Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: lotus1 on June 22, 2014, 06:35:21 PM
I hope all the 34 people listed in the hit list and their family, Serpom, Shar Gaden and all the Dorje Shugden Monateries and Shugden Masters will be on high alert and be careful.

In the letter, it is openly stated that CTA wants them to take action against the Shugden practitioners. The United Front of the Tibetan People want to silence all the 34 people in the list and take over the monasteries!!!

The United Front of the Tibetan People are putting HH Dalai Lama to shame. They are causing Buddhism to degenerate. They are causing riot and disharmony to India and countries that they are staying and CTA is supporting them! We should stop all support and funding to CTA. CTA, is it called democracy??? Is it what you say about CTA take care to all Tibetan?  >:( >:( >:(

I sincerely pledge to His Holiness to lift the ban. Please stop them from harming the innocent people just because they have different religious practice. You have always taught us about being compassion and have world peace. Please do something about it and stop all the violence.
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: fruven on June 22, 2014, 07:25:13 PM
Teach them a lesson! Very clear and loud we can hear you.

Apparently a group of Tibetans, pro-CTA or pro-DL or pro-whatever, have no qualms of silencing and removing any Shugden leaders and practitioners from the surface of the earth. Whether they see themselves as Buddhist or not they are above karma. They think their actions create good karma apparently.
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: Blueupali on June 23, 2014, 03:12:30 AM
This letter seems too over the top to me; I can't believe anyone would seriously publish this, but then I remember that Tibet has a long and bloody history.  I hope we can avoid any bloodshed this time.  Who are these people that wrote the letter?  I do not understand how they can write this?
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: eyesoftara on June 23, 2014, 04:09:14 AM
Does the Dalai Lama condone this? If He remains silent, then things are going to be bad. Not so much about the heroes in the "Wanted" but for the fools who came u with this letter and all that take it seriously. When has a Buddhist organization practice encouraging others to be violent, regardless of their perceived threats?
My respond to them. Fools, be afraid of your karma. Use your lives to benefit others and not the other way round.
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: yontenjamyang on June 23, 2014, 04:44:59 AM
This is really sad. The letter smack of ignorances. From calling the Dalai Lama, "God" to propagating the "illogics" of the Dalai Lama and CTA. Illogic like the Shugden practice will shorten the Dalai Lama's life and Shugden being a spirit are just accepted wholesale.

It is as though the ban is a spite from the Dalai Lama to these followers. The Dalai Lama tells a lie, he see if you believe it. If you do, you need more of his help. For those who are more intelligent and knows to discern lies from truth, He let you practice and he "purify" your karma with the ban.
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: Blueupali on June 23, 2014, 05:34:16 AM
You know, I wanted to comment that yes, it may seem mostly against Tibetans, but also--- it is clearly against anyone who supports the Tibetans and the NKT is mentioned directly--- so are they threatening westerners as well?  It seemed so.  Do you think these are really radical Dalai Lama people?  Or are these like China trying to further a schism?  Because the letter was absolutely ridiculous?  I am just asking--- just asking because I do not know how this generally works...
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: ChoDorje on June 24, 2014, 08:35:12 AM
So far on the website and the forums, I've only seen copies of the letter and envelope addressed to Ven. Kelsang Chogyop.  I at first thought maybe this was an isolated incident, since to my knowledge, no one else has come forward with their copy of the letter...

However, this past weekend when I visited my teacher, H.E. Kyabje Yongyal Dorje Chang, after the teachings, Rinpoche, me, and a few close students were sitting at the table, enjoying tea and just chatting.  Rinpoche reached into his cabinet and pulled out an envelope and a letter and asked me and his other senior student to translate it for him (Rinpoche knows very little English).  Lo and behold, it's the infamous letter.  At this point, if Kyabje Yongyal Rinpoche received the letter, I'm pretty sure Kyabje Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche and the other high lamas of our lineage probably received it too. 

I just hope the letter doesn't spur any fanatical Dalai Lama supporter to carry out any acts against our precious lamas. 

Kyabje Yongyal Rinpoche, given the depth of his practice and compassion, seemed unalarmed and not bothered by this letter.  But as his student, I am really shaking in my boots! 

Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: Lineageholder on June 24, 2014, 02:12:23 PM
I'm beginning to wonder if this letter is genuine. It seems strange that this organisation who have never been heard of before would send such a threatening letter and sign it. DUH! it seems like a huge mistake.

Whoever did send it, it was totally wrong to do so and I hope the authorities find out who it was and it becomes public. If it's an attempt to frame the Dalai Lama's followers that would be a huge mistake as truth and honesty are our main weapons in this fight for religious freedom and if it's genuine, such extreme actions will lose the Dalai Lama and his followers some credibility.

Whichever side did this, it's wrong and I hope it just disappears without causing harm to anyone.
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: Blueupali on June 25, 2014, 12:57:46 AM
Linageholder,
  I agree the letter is not good either way.  I keep thinking a third party like China--- not because for me China is the big bad guy that we blame everything on--- but rather because maybe China thinks they can benefit from a rift--- the unfortunate truth is that that China does totally benefit from a rift--- whether they did this or not--- Tibetans would do well to remember the teachings of Buddha, of course--- the divide is not helpful to Buddhism or Tibetans---- so I don't know though, if this strange group was just forming because they are angry or they aren't for real----
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: grandmapele on June 25, 2014, 06:36:27 AM
Sad to read the references to H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama as God. In my opinion, he is not God. if he is, then he may not be enlightened and in Asura. He is not God, he is the Buddha Chenrezik, Buddha of Compassion. For whatever reason, he is keeping quiet about all these poor peasants' wayward thinking.

OM MANI PADME HUNG

May the time come when H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama comes out and counsel them and stop all this mud-slinging and anger and threats.
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: Admin on June 28, 2014, 04:38:23 AM
For everyone's information:
 
1. Several labrangs (households) of reincarnated lamas and Geshes have requested us to highlight this letter (The United Front of the Tibetan People) on our website. (They wish to remain anonymous for security reasons) One of the lamas has done a dice divination and said although the letter may seem bad, it will be beneficial in the cause of Dorje Shugden followers for the long run. It will contribute to a sort of standoff ending in our favor. The more people who read the letter, the better. With or without the letter, those who will create trouble will do so anyway. This letter highlights to the international community the type of violence and instigations the CTA is capable of. It is important people see this letter. The monks requested us to please keep it posted and email to authorities for investigations. Even if the investigations results in nothing, it will still be on record. The authorities will not understand the politics of who sent this letter, but simply Dorje Shugden practitioners are under threat. Makes sense.
 
2. The police of Mundgod, ByLakuppe and Dharamsala are taking this letter very seriously. And investigating. It has highlighted the plight of Serpom and Shar Gaden monasteries clearly to the local police. Shar Gaden Monastic administration were happy to have proof of the threats they have received for years. They have brought this letter to the local police and it has given them more weight to their claims and fears. It has 'materialized' all the verbal threats they have received. If in future anything else should happen, the monks can refer back to this letter. The monks of both Serpom and Shar Gaden are not happy about the letter, but they are happy that they have something to show the police. They have expressed this to us.
 
3. In fact by this letter being given to the various police in the Tibetan settlements of India, the pro-Dalai Lama fanatics have to be more careful as the police in India have a heads up and are on the alert. An example, if you let the police know there is going to be a burglary tonight, they will be extra alert.
 
4. The Dalai Lama and his office has become very desperate as well recently. Because Trijang Rinpoche will not fall in line with their diktats, they have sent a very nasty and angry letter to Trijang Rinpoche which is too sensitive to reveal. Desperate angry letters threatening violence, punishments or the likes is commonplace from Tibetans in authority especially when instigated by the CTA and it's increasing. Let the CTA and their supporters answer to the authorities who are investigating.
 
Admin
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Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: Rihanna on June 29, 2014, 02:03:42 AM
This is indeed shocking to know that the Tibetan people are doing this to their own people. How can they be living in the same place and because of different beliefs and religion that turn them to be so violent against each other.
They said they have freedom of religion but on the other hand they threaten those who practices DS.
Those who persist on practicing are those loyal to their Guru and this shows great devotion among student and teachers. Their teachers are great Lamas and who are they to say that they are wrong about Dorje Shugden.
Do not do onto others what you do not want others to do onto you. Stop all the bullying and threatening.

[Dear Maricisun,
You are shocked to know that the Tibetan people are doing this to their own people????
I think you must be new to this issue. CTA behaves like hooligans and thugs. Read on:

http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/news/achok-rinpoche-teachings-in-serpom-monastery/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/news/achok-rinpoche-teachings-in-serpom-monastery/)
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/cta-creates-violence-again/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/cta-creates-violence-again/)
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=4826.0 (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=4826.0)
]
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: Rihanna on June 29, 2014, 02:04:54 AM
The United Front of the Tibetan People is taking laws into their own hands!  The letter shows so much hatred and ignorance they have towards Dorje Shugden and and His followers.  It is really sad that the ban on Dorje Shugden had created monsters in the pro-Dalai Lama supporters! These PDLS are not really interested to solve problems, they have become the problems!  How could there be peace and harmony amongst tibetans in exile if this is happening?  Instead of 'war' against the Chinese - the real enemy, these PDLS are going all out to 'finish' their own kind! What have you done CTA? You had jeopardised the lives of many innocent Tibetans who just wanted to have their religious freedom and human rights.  You had also caused many PDLS to create so much heavy negative karmas.  The truths shall prevail and the ban on Dorje Shugden will be lifted soon in the future.  When that happens, CTA, can you take full responsibility of all your wrongdoings?


[I totally agree with you. Only a stupid administration like CTA will incite war among his own people. Brainless! Go for a bigger cause; fight back for the country you lost. Or perhaps you know you are incapable of that hence you need to find a cause so as to be seen you are doing something and that you think is easier ie bully your own people.]
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: Kim Hyun Jae on June 29, 2014, 09:02:40 AM
Dear Admin - there is always 2 sides to a coin. A positive or a negative point of view, with reference to the Threat Letter but I am glad of the positiveness the letter brought.

If we wish to think negatively of the Threat Letter, the messages can incite DS practitioners to act in violence. If we are able to take the Threat Letter in positive light, then perhaps it was time these type of letters revealed itself as proof to the world of its existence and the truth of reality to wake up the Indian authorities over such "real" threat within India.

Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: Freyr Aesiragnorak on June 29, 2014, 10:50:12 AM
Any group with the words "United Front" will instinctively create a disgust in my mind, as all those groups that i've know that use these two words will obviously have some sort of horrific agenda. And this letter matches my stereotype to the T. What sickness is afflicting these people that they would condone or even encourage such behavior towards others? I really see this as a precursor to nazi-ish way of behaviour, but rather than based on race, this is based on practices within the same religion!!!
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: DharmaSpace on June 29, 2014, 11:57:19 AM
I do not think Dorje Shugden practitioner will become more militant as a result. We will be much more vigilant to watch out for potential harm from the anti Dorje Shugden factions. And more aware with every move the CTA and its supporters do that could potentially harm others and themselves. 

And it is not everyday we have the Tibetan in Exile letterhead. Plus if it is false why have not the CTA issued any denial if no denial at least some words to say we do not wish any harm towards the Tibetan lama and practitioners who engage in Dorje Shugden? 

Nothing, I can hear a pin drop….

This letter was spot on on the attack on Domo Geshe, what other nefarious schemes are they planning we need to be more vigilant and aware.
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: Blueupali on June 29, 2014, 08:47:15 PM
Dear Admin - there is always 2 sides to a coin. A positive or a negative point of view, with reference to the Threat Letter but I am glad of the positiveness the letter brought.

If we wish to think negatively of the Threat Letter, the messages can incite DS practitioners to act in violence. If we are able to take the Threat Letter in positive light, then perhaps it was time these type of letters revealed itself as proof to the world of its existence and the truth of reality to wake up the Indian authorities over such "real" threat within India.

Kim Hyun Jae, I don't think that Dorje Shugden's real practitioners could ever act in violence because he is a Buddha and isn't arranging for them to go the lower realms; they are Buddhists and Buddhists to keep refuge do not harm living beings.
  Sadly, the police should already be aware of what is going on--- like when the monasteries get attacked. 
  I do not follow the pop psych that we need to look for the positive in everything; like samsara--- nothing positive about samsara itself, okay--- it's a terrible cycle of pain and misery and rebirth after rebirth, with long sojourns in the lower realms.
  Okay, so the nice thing though, is that there is a way out of samsara for everyone by everyone becoming Buddhas.  Of course, everyone needs to practice the path that they personally decide to practice because the Buddha helps people find different paths.  When some buddhists act against others, trying to say that we don't need a certain practice, it becomes problematic; how does one person know what another person is supposed to do?
  The Buddha never taught to be dogmatic, but the opposite.
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: jamyang_sonam on July 11, 2014, 04:19:08 PM
this letter should not be ignore, it has come to a very disturbing situation that the persecution towards Dorje Shugden practitioners is becoming more violent. How could a Tibetan harm another Tibetan? furthermore to claim they are Buddhist and are H.H Dalai Lama supporter or student, this is contradictory to Buddhist philosophy of Love and peace!

This groups is indirectly link to CTA, maybe the dark side of CTA who target the Dorje Shugden practitioners to cause harm! This letter should be seen by the world, and broadcast on world news to let the world know what is CTA up to, and what is the condition of the Dorje Shugden Practitioners in India is facing!
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: DharmaSpace on July 12, 2014, 03:49:04 PM
This letter has the tibetan flag and claim to represent the Tibetan people.

Well this letter has spread all over the internet so the big question is why hasn't the CTA denied that this letter does not represent the views of the Tibetan Government in exile and Tibetan people. This letter has so much threatening undertones that police reports should be made against it.

As the letter suggests malicious acts against the Dorje Shudgen monasteries and Dorje Shugden lamas and prominent practitioners.  If the CTA does not deny this letter then most likely they are agreeing to it. Also it shows the friends of CTA are not what they it to be to have sent this letter to Dorje Shudgen people. The cracks are getting wider for the CTA alliance, can they really trust anyone now?

Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: lotus1 on July 12, 2014, 06:27:30 PM
Kim Hyun Jae, I don’t think Dorje Shugden practitioners will act in violence due to these messages. The lamas and Dorje Shugden do not teach us to be violence. I met with monks practicing Dorje Shugden before. Although them have experience the harm from the anti-Shugden people, they do not teach us to harm the anti-Shugden people back. In fact, they just told that they do not understand why there is the ban and what they are doing is just follow the teaching of their Gurus, practice what their lama teach them diligently and pass the lineage down. They are very peaceful and calm. In fact, some of the monks still have HH Dalai Lama’s picture on their altar.

Although we have no intention to harm others, we still have to protect ourselves. With these letters, the hit list published on CTA website and threats from social media etc, all the Dorje Shugden monasteries, high lamas should be alert and protect themselves. At least now we have the written proof so that the police and others will treat the case more seriously.

Like what the Admin said “Desperate angry letters threatening violence, punishments or the likes is commonplace from Tibetans in authority especially when instigated by the CTA and it's increasing. Let the CTA and their supporters answer to the authorities who are investigating.

Let’s get more people to see the letter and put the pressure on CTA so that they can be kind to Dorje Shugden practitioners and lift the ban!
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: brian on July 13, 2014, 02:32:26 PM
This is way overboard isn't it??!! how can this be happening? Will anyone like for example His Holiness Dalai Lama do something about this please? Why CTA can be so annoying and terrible in such a way? This is way overboard really! Is there anyway that the Human Rights organizations be able to do anything about this? Can this be catergorised as a crime?
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: samayakeeper on July 13, 2014, 03:05:04 PM
If some Tibetans see Dalai Lama as their god then no spirit or demon including Dorje Shugden could kill him. If the Dalai Lama could be killed then they are not worshiping a god but just an ordinary human being. Therefore if Dalai Lama is just an ordinary human being that can easily be killed by a spirit or a demon then he could be wrong in saying that Dorje Shugden is a spirit/demon that could harm and shorten his life. And if Dalai Lama is their god then why didn't he use his godly powers to wrest back Tibet from China? In the first place Tibet would not have been lost, never mind the karma of the Tibetans then and now.
Title: Re: Letter from United Front of the Tibetan People
Post by: icy on July 22, 2014, 07:44:42 AM
Quote from Shugden Library:

These pictures clearly show that it was a member of the Dalai Lama's close entourage that took the photographs of the Tibetan Shugden demonstrators that would later appear on the CTA hit-list.

And further information to back-up this assertion:

http://www.arebuddhistsracist.com/does_the_un_udhr_apply_to_dorje_shugden.html#criminal (http://www.arebuddhistsracist.com/does_the_un_udhr_apply_to_dorje_shugden.html#criminal)

Eye-witness testimony from demonstrators and independent journalists also back-up these events.


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