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Title: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: RedLantern on June 16, 2013, 02:50:03 PM
Humans do have some very special characteristics that set us apart from other animals,some of them good,some of them not.It appears that we have more potential than any other creature can imagine.Potential to achieve both the absolute "good" and the absolute"bad".It  appears that we have the greatest capacity for evil,malicious doings.It seems that we suffer more than any other creature,look at the chaotic society we have created,it is this potential that gives us a special place in this relative world we live in. It is as if we are guardians,the  keepers of the earth with so much power and great responsibility.
Value life with great significance and I believe a human's life is,to a degree more valuable than an animal for   these  reasons.I am only postulating from my limited ,narrow human perspective and no conclusion could ever come from elsewhere.
This question will spark some controversy,I am sure that there is no absolute way of answering it.
Title: Re: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: brian on June 16, 2013, 03:20:50 PM
As humans we are able to gain wisdom and possess the ability to learn. Human also have the ability to create merits for themselves or other sentient beings where else animals do not possess the ability for them to think before acting and hence do not have the ability to generate merits and benefit others as they do not possess the ability to think compared to humans.
Title: Re: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: dondrup on June 16, 2013, 03:49:21 PM
The only advantage that humans have over the animals is the ability to understand and practise Dharma.  Hence humans are able to accumulate merits, purify their negative karma and to transform their minds. Animals do not have this ability.  Animals’ minds are shrouded with greater ignorance than the humans.  However, within the human realm, there are humans whose behaviours are similar to the animals!  These are the humans who do not utilise or develop the full and positive potential of their minds. These humans are born handicapped.  Some humans have used their minds ignorantly to perform negative actions like killing similar to the animals.  It is said in the Buddhist scriptures that bodhisattvas residing in some Pure Lands aspire to be reborn as humans in order to practise Highest Yoga Tantra – the quick path to full enlightenment in one single lifetime compared to a longer period to accomplish full enlightenment in a Pure Land.  Of the six realms of existence, only the human body contains the necessary components to practise the Highest Yoga Tantra. Hence, humans are considered superior to animals.
Title: Re: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: Benny on June 16, 2013, 04:12:25 PM
Why of course humans are more superior than animals in all sense , both biologically and spiritually . That is precisely why being re born in the animal realm is considered in Buddhism,  Hinduism and Jainism, as the lower realms ! Even in Christianity , humans are considered to be superior to the extent that they believe it is their God given right to kill and consume animals as sustenance for mankind . In islam , also they believe that animals are not "created" equal to humans and as such they are sacrificed to please Allah as an act of devotion and piety and later consumed by humans , and they are considered to be blessed because of their sacrifice to sustain the meat eating humans .

The difference is that certain religions forbids the slaughter of animals for whatever purpose , such as Buddhism , due to the fact that it is a religion that emphasizes on compassion and wisdom. As such , despite the fact that Buddhism categorically states that being born human is more superior to animal rebirths , it does not automatically encourages humans to abuse and kill animals , it is a choice that every human has , thats is to choose to practice compassion and wisdom or NOT . Thats is also why humans are seen to be more superior to animals ! That is the ability to think and choose the correct path , as opposed to being animals that are controlled by their basic animal instincts to survive .
Title: Re: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: sonamdhargey on June 16, 2013, 04:14:26 PM
The only advantage that humans have over the animals is the ability to understand and practise Dharma.  Hence humans are able to accumulate merits, purify their negative karma and to transform their minds. Animals do not have this ability.  Animals’ minds are shrouded with greater ignorance than the humans.  However, within the human realm, there are humans whose behaviours are similar to the animals!  These are the humans who do not utilise or develop the full and positive potential of their minds. These humans are born handicapped.  Some humans have used their minds ignorantly to perform negative actions like killing similar to the animals.  It is said in the Buddhist scriptures that bodhisattvas residing in some Pure Lands aspire to be reborn as humans in order to practise Highest Yoga Tantra – the quick path to full enlightenment in one single lifetime compared to a longer period to accomplish full enlightenment in a Pure Land.  Of the six realms of existence, only the human body contains the necessary components to practise the Highest Yoga Tantra. Hence, humans are considered superior to animals.

I think your statement is a sweeping statement. How do you conclude that the only advantage that all Humans are able to practice dharma or understand the Dharma? There are so many humans in this world who does not understand the Dharma and practiced against the Dharma teachings which you stated. As you said precisely that some humans are like animals and some are handicapped.  You said that only the human body contains the necessary components to practice the Highest Yogo Tantra. I begged to defer. Then how about the Daka & Dakinis? How about the Yakshas or Nagas? They are not Humans but they do have the equal potential including the animals.
Title: Re: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: samayakeeper on June 16, 2013, 04:33:30 PM
Humans are definitely more superior to animals not just from the spiritual angle but also proven by science, logic and common knowledge and observations. Unless the movie Planet of the Apes became a reality.
Title: Re: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: Manjushri on June 16, 2013, 06:29:56 PM
I personally do not think that humans are more superior to animals. In a world created by humans, of course it would seem that humans are more dominant, but compare it to if you put a human in the wild, like a huge vast forest, then the human becomes a tiny component of nature and are vulnerable to the animals that roam the land there.

However in the spiritual sense, it is more advantageous to be born as a human because humans have a higher chance to learn. Humans are able to practise and embark on the path towards liberation. If conditions are viable, they can learn the Dharma, help others, develop virtue, chant mantras, bless others. In that sense, humans are luckier than animals, but not more superior. Because all sentient beings are equal and deserve love, care and kindness.
Title: Re: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: fruven on June 16, 2013, 09:35:42 PM
To think human is superior to other beings is projecting one has rights over the life of others. This will lead you to treat others differently be it animals, or even humans. I am different, I am special, I have rights, I can choose the way to live as I please. This is all self-centeredness projecting superiority over others when in fact inwardly it is also an inferiority or poor self-esteem manifesting outwardly to gain confidence. Also greed and desire is also part of the problem one is not satisfied with what we have, the desire to have more, justifying ourselves, it is our god given, human rights, whatever 'right' to have more, 'growth'. This all points to wanting more materially and is a sign that spiritually one is very depleted. The solution? Compassion and be kind towards others. Placing others' needs above one. Therefore it is not incorrect to say that in human form we have the best chances to learn and practice the Dharma. Of course there are many humans living throughout the whole planet and there is a large discrepancy in opportunity and living condition where many struggling to even stay alive because there is not enough to eat, defends oneself from others example in civil war or unrest, or just plain restricted human freedom to learn and move. Beings in other forms are definitely less fortunate in relation to human forms because they are born into at both extreme. For example beings in demi-gods suffer from extreme jealousy and anger. It is not easy to learn and practice in that state as compared to human form. There are many such beings with many different names http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exotic_tribes_of_ancient_India (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exotic_tribes_of_ancient_India) Why is it not easy to practice when is jealous and angersome? When one is jealous and angersome it means one has less patience. To practice one needs some amount of patience, and mental calmness. If one is easily provoke and the feelings of jealousy and angersome come up, then even one hearing the Dharma the same feelings are likely to arise.
Title: Re: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: Midakpa on June 17, 2013, 10:17:41 AM
From the Buddhist point of view, humans live in one of the six realms of samsara, and animals occupy another realm. The reason why we can see animals and not the other beings in samsara is that, in many ways, we are a lot like animals. The difference is that as humans with the 18 opportune conditions (8 freedoms and 10 endowments), we are able to practice the Dharma and become enlightened. Animals, due to past negative karma, have to undergo much suffering until their negative karma is exhausted and are reborn as humans again. 

Are humans superior to animals? In terms of the opportunity to practice Dharma, humans are more fortunate. But in samsara, everyone is equal in the sense that one is controlled by one's karma and therefore, one can be reborn in any realm according to one's karma that ripens at the time of death.

Moreover, all beings in samsara are considered to be mother sentient beings. If we look at animals from this angle, we will never consider ourselves as "superior".
Title: Re: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: Jessie Fong on June 18, 2013, 12:04:04 AM

For humans, their ability to understand good moral values and generate merits is my reasoning of why humans are better than animals. Humans are more inteligent to acknowledge dharma values and do have a choice to practice it to generate merits, hence able to change his own destiny ie future lives. While other values such as being attached to desire, ignorance and anger may seem that both humans and animals are of the same level, humans stands out for being able to understand and practice good value.
Title: Re: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: yontenjamyang on June 18, 2013, 07:22:45 AM
Within the realms of samsara, the human realm is the most precious. Why precious? Precious because it is rare and hard to acquire. Rarer than any other realms. There are almost infinitely more animals, hungry ghosts and hell beings than humans. There are more demi gods and gods than humans as well. Being born as a human is part of of the 8 freedoms of the 18 opportune conditions stated in the Lamrim.

In the Lamrim, the actual training in the 3 scopes start with the heading "How to extract the essence from your optimum human rebirth" (heading 118). This underline the importance of being a human.

So this topic of "Are human superior to animals" is really an understatement of the century. Of course it is. Just ask yourself. "Would I want to be an animal?" The answer is clear.
Title: Re: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: dondrup on June 18, 2013, 06:15:03 PM
The only advantage that humans have over the animals is the ability to understand and practise Dharma.  Hence humans are able to accumulate merits, purify their negative karma and to transform their minds. Animals do not have this ability.  Animals’ minds are shrouded with greater ignorance than the humans.  However, within the human realm, there are humans whose behaviours are similar to the animals!  These are the humans who do not utilise or develop the full and positive potential of their minds. These humans are born handicapped.  Some humans have used their minds ignorantly to perform negative actions like killing similar to the animals.  It is said in the Buddhist scriptures that bodhisattvas residing in some Pure Lands aspire to be reborn as humans in order to practise Highest Yoga Tantra – the quick path to full enlightenment in one single lifetime compared to a longer period to accomplish full enlightenment in a Pure Land.  Of the six realms of existence, only the human body contains the necessary components to practise the Highest Yoga Tantra. Hence, humans are considered superior to animals.

I think your statement is a sweeping statement. How do you conclude that the only advantage that all Humans are able to practice dharma or understand the Dharma? There are so many humans in this world who does not understand the Dharma and practiced against the Dharma teachings which you stated. As you said precisely that some humans are like animals and some are handicapped.  You said that only the human body contains the necessary components to practice the Highest Yogo Tantra. I begged to defer. Then how about the Daka & Dakinis? How about the Yakshas or Nagas? They are not Humans but they do have the equal potential including the animals.

Please refer to the page 314 of the Liberation in the Palm of Your Hand (Paperback Edition 1997) the second last paragraph which states: “The human form is also the most powerful rebirth in which to reach omniscience.  Even a beginner in this sort of rebirth can, through the secret tantric path, become enlightened in one lifetime, in the one body.  This is because one must karmically possess the six physical constituents and be born from the womb of a human of the Southern Continent.  We have received such a rebirth.

Only the human body possesses the six physical constituents i.e skin, flesh, bone, channels, winds, and drops that are necessary for the practice of Secret Mantra.

Though sentient beings of the six realms have the same buddha nature to be enlightened, based on the above paragraph from the Liberation in the Palm of Your Hand, humans are superior to animals because it has the most powerful basis to reach enlightenment.

I should rephrase the phrase “The only advantage that humans have over the animals"
by saying humans have better conditions (Eight Freedoms) to practise Dharma than the animals.
Title: Re: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: pgdharma on June 19, 2013, 03:55:17 PM
As Buddhists, we believe that humans and animals have the Buddha nature in us and all of us can be enlightened. Due to their karma they take rebirth in the lower realm as animals.
 
What is meant by 'lower' realm is not in status or honor but purely because animals experience more pain than humans, having to fight for their own survival and often being terrorized by humans, whereas humans have it a bit easier. Animals can't engage in conscious acts of self-improvement or improve their karmic status, they must continue to be reborn as animals until their bad karma is exhausted. Only when they are reborn as human beings can they resume the quest for nirvana. Humans have the ability to think and reason. We can cultivate compassion and wisdom to free ourselves from samsara.

Title: Re: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: Rihanna on June 20, 2013, 03:40:56 AM
Humans are definitely more superior to animals not just from the spiritual angle but also proven by science, logic and common knowledge and observations. Unless the movie Planet of the Apes became a reality.

[I agree with you samayakeeper. From the Buddhist point of view, human do possess the ability to have the wisdom to understand good moral values. Whether human want to practice or not is another matter but ultimately human has wisdom. Humans have this so called advantage that makes them better than an animal. Animals meanwhile do not have the qualities that they can understand any sort of good values that can help them to generate merits by performing actions that brings good merits for them to purify their bad karma that caused them to be animals in the first place.]
Title: Re: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: Q on June 20, 2013, 07:30:47 AM
When we ask if human is superior to animals, I would say yes. Not in the way that animals are terrible etc, but in a way that when we look at the 6 realms of samsara, animals are classified in the lower realms.

Also if we look into the ability of an animal and human based on the mind and the capability of working towards enlightenment, it is very obvious that humans can practice Dharma and gain much wisdom while animals are incapable of doing so. So, yes, in that sense, the ability to gain wisdom and humans having the choice as well as capability of releasing themselves from samsara... that would be superior to that of an animal.

However, although humans are superior in that sense, it is not an excuse for us to treat animals poorly. Animals are also lives, and they too have the Buddha potential in them, it just that in this current reincarnation, they are incapable of carrying out or harnessing their enlightened potential.
Title: Re: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: vajrastorm on June 20, 2013, 03:05:43 PM
Being in the human realm and being born with our mental and physical faculties intact gives us, humans, the advantage over animals to make full use of this precious human life to attain full liberation or complete freedom from suffering via the practice of the Buddhadharma. Animals are plagued by benighted ignorance to be ever able to understand the Dharma. It is only through the Dharma that one can completely eliminate suffering and attain permanent peace and happiness.Humans also experience their necessary share of pain and suffering that makes them want to be liberated from suffering and from samsara. Otherwise, like the gods, they would be too busy pursuing the fleeting pleasures of samsara.

Having said that, every being in samsara is subject to the cycle of existence of samsara, under the influence of our uncontrollable karma and delusions. Hence being born human is only for a relatively short period of time before our karma catches up with us , and , with death, we are thrown once more into the endless round of rebirths. As we are often reminded by our Spiritual Guide, we are just a breath away from rebirth in the lower realms, including the animal realm.

The human rebirth is a rare and precious one, because it provides the optimum conditions for us to practice the Dharma and gain full freedom from suffering for ourselves and ultimately for all beings.


Essentially, all beings are equal because we all have the potential Buddha nature in us.   

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Title: Re: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: Tammy on June 30, 2013, 03:51:37 PM
Spirituality aside, in my humble opinion, those so call 'human' who eat other animals alive, is not qualify for 'human hood'. Please stop cheating yourself that you are more superior than other animals. Other animals kill because they need the meat/food to survive. They don't kill for fun. We human called fishing a SPORT! This mean We kill for FUN, for leisure, NOT for basic survival.

So, no, human being are NOT more superior than other animals, lets not kid ourselves anymore.
Title: Re: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: rossoneri on July 02, 2013, 08:46:26 AM
Yes, we might be superior than animal not in the sense of being better or have the rights to harm. We do have a lot advantages as to compare to animals, we are generally much more intelligent hence we will have a lot of advantages which leads us to develop awareness of our own existence which leads us to develop the sense of pride, jealousy, desire, shy, love, care and so much more. Therefore it is very easy for us to look down on other person let alone other species. But i do not think we should feel we are superior to others, instead we should develop compassion towards them and help those which are needed our help and not kill.
Title: Re: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: diablo1974 on July 04, 2013, 05:30:55 AM
Physically we are more superior than animals, we do what animals can't do. Intelligence, analytical thinking, etc etc. In buddhist classes, i am told that we will being some of our habits in our past lives as animals even if we are humans in this life. In other words, our mind might not be consider as more superior than animals.  If it have to be more superior than animals then i would say its incomplete superiority.
Title: Re: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: Dondrup Shugden on May 19, 2015, 07:46:51 AM
Shakymuni Buddha achieved enlightenment in the Human Form, as such to my logical mind it would be the most superior form of rebirth.

Sorry to say, one of the lower realms for rebirth is in the animal form, so for that Buddhist teaching, I will say that humans are superior to animals.

As such being superior, it is very meritorious as a human to do whatever to we can to assist and help all other forms of being.  Like kings and emperors, if they are kind and caring, their citizens enjoy peace, harmony and great wealth and on the other hand with evil kings and emperors, all their subjects suffer extreme conditions.

Title: Re: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: MoMo on May 24, 2015, 02:31:07 PM
For those  who said we human are equal in superiority to the animals  should  contemplate more on the Lamrim topic of  “the suffering of animal realm” and the disadvantage of being reborn in this realm . In the spiritual context, the human realm is the most appropriate for achieving the ultimate goal  even bodhisattva  on the final league will had to make stainless prayers to be reborn in human realm. It is said that only in human realm we are be able to experience the suffering of all lower realms and the pleasure of the higher realms. Thus, this served as a basis  for us to realize the necessity for liberation and southern jambu provides all the appropriate conditions for us to practise. The only beings that are said to be able to uphold some Buddha dharma are said to be the nagas but even then, human are still considered to be far more superior than the nagas as we are able to achieve Buddhahood but not them. Hence, there should be no further debate on this.
Title: Re: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: lotus1 on May 24, 2015, 08:24:32 PM

Very interesting discussion on human and animal superiority. For me, I would agree that human are more superior than animal. As per the six realms of existence, human is at the higher realms that we would strive to be in so that we can practice Dharma. Human has better conditions than animal to understand Dharma and to practice it.

However, that does not mean that we should harm or eat animals. Animals are part of the sentient beings that we should have compassion with, just like with any human.
Title: Re: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: yontenjamyang on June 15, 2015, 05:35:00 AM
Superiority must not be translated into dominance but it should about being responsible. In this case the hishest responsibility is that of Altruistic intention of alleviating the sufferings of all mother beings including the animal realms. But since, we are not omniscient and do have the opportune conditions to practice the Dharma we should aspire to practice to gain this Omniscience to truly be of full benefit to mother beings.

That is the aspiration of Boddhicitta.

p/s; With power come responsibilities.
Title: Re: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: Dondrup Shugden on June 15, 2015, 01:40:03 PM

Very interesting discussion on human and animal superiority. For me, I would agree that human are more superior than animal. As per the six realms of existence, human is at the higher realms that we would strive to be in so that we can practice Dharma. Human has better conditions than animal to understand Dharma and to practice it.

However, that does not mean that we should harm or eat animals. Animals are part of the sentient beings that we should have compassion with, just like with any human.

Well said, Lotus and as such we should being so called ''superior'' be helpful to all other sentient beings to elevate sufferings.

No dominance over any other sentient beings nor even the same species of human beings.
Title: Re: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: SabS on March 25, 2019, 05:08:25 AM
Our superiority is only in the potential that we are able to practice to gain enlightenment and out of sufferings of samsara. Other than that, we are no better off than the animals as we share the same. In fact, even carnivorous animals kill just for food and nothing excessive, unlike humans who deplete the earth of its resources for our selfish wants. The condition of animals or earth is the reflection of our humanity.
Title: Re: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: Drolma on March 26, 2019, 05:46:02 AM
Human is not superior to animals. Just because animals cannot speak and express themselves using a language we can understand, it does not mean humans are more superior and we can take away their lives or their living space. Unfortunately, this is what humans have always been doing. We destroy our planet and the living environment of the animals because we want development.

As Buddhists, we believe after we die or any other sentient being dies, the conscious mind will leave the body and take rebirth. The conscious mind can take rebirth in the 3 upper realms or the 3 lower realms. Animals or ghost have the possibility of taking rebirth as a human being or semi-god or god and human can take rebirth as an animal or spirit or in hell. It all depends on our karma. Thus, how can human beings be more superior when there is a chance we will take rebirth in the 3 lower realms?

Life as animals is not easy especially, look at those stray dogs and cats. Most of the time they have to eat rubbish and risk to be bullied or killed. They cannot learn Dharma or do anything to purify their karma or collect merits, they have to suffer until their negative karma exhausts then they might have the chance to take rebirth in a perfect human form again. Therefore, we should have compassion for them.

Title: Re: Are humans superior to animals?
Post by: Tenzin K on April 26, 2019, 08:14:03 AM
Human is not superior to animals. Humans and animals are just another types of species that shared the earth. Since we don’t own the earth than we must respect and create a respectful environment with animals to live together.


Being animals it’s a very unfortunate condition as an animal they are unable to learn dharma or even recite the mantra. Being animals what will be their chance to collect merits for their future lives?

What we can do to help is to recite the mantra to them and let them listen to every single word. This way is to plant the seed for their future. Place Buddha statue for the animals and allow them to circumambulate around the Buddha. This is another way that will allow the animals to collect merits.