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pictures
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Ven' Kelsang Gyatso, Geshe Konchog, And H.E Song Rinpoche at Ulveston train station in the '80's.
Mx
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In the centre of a red and black fire and wind.....
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Dorje Shugden society celebrated Gaden Ngachoe. And here are some pictures for your
information.
Dorje Shugden Devotees' Religious and Charitable Society,
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Excellent high resolution thangka of Tsongkhapa with disciples and Dorje Shugden for you to download and print out.
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Excellent high resolution thangka of Tsongkhapa with disciples and Dorje Shugden for you to download and print out.
Very nice. But sadly it is a photoshop-work, not a real painting.
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I wonder what is sad.
A Photoshop work done with the proper motivation and the knowledge about shapes and colours can create a perfectly legitimate tangka. If on top of that we print the image and ask our Lama to bless it, we are perfecting an already great deed.
We have Je Pabongka's advice regarding the way of treating the images of Buddhas. We should not discriminate among images of Buddhas based on the material they are created. Clay or gold, silk or computer screen, images of Buddhas are images of Buddhas.
Of course, the art of traditional tangka painting is a noble and wonderful and sacred art, and it's great to support it and support the artists. I understand that the prospect of losing such tradition might be a sad thing for a sensitive person.
But it is great too that people who are using technology are giving us so generously such wonderful images as the one we received yesterday. THANK YOU Photoshop artist, whoever you are!
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The Monastery of Denma Gonsa Rinpoche in Tibet that contains a 102ft Jamgon Tsongkapa statue as it's main object on the shrine. Fantastic!!!
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THIS IS SAMPHELLING MONASTERY IN CHATRENG, KHAM, TIBET. IT IS THE PERSONAL MONASTERY OF H.H. KYABJE TRIJANG RINPOCHE. FANTASTIC. NEARBY THEY ARE BUILDING A 32 METER LORD TSONGKAPA STATUE ALSO. PLEASE EVERYONE ENJOY THE BLESSINGS OF SEEING THIS SACRED MONASTERY. :)
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FANTASTIC POWERFUL PICTURE OF THE NEW WORLD PEACE PROTECTOR DORJE SHUGDEN.
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THIS RARE PICTURE IS OF THE FAMOUS GADEN ORACLE CHOYANG DULZIN KUTEN. THIS PICTURE IS IN GADEN SHARTSE MONASTERY'S MAIN PRAYER HALL (SOUTH INDIA) WITH THE ABBOT, EX ABBOTS, TULKUS, GESHES AND ALL SANGHA GATHERED. IT IS DULZIN OR DORJE SHUGDEN IN PEACEFUL FORM TAKING FULL TRANCE OF CHOYANG KUTEN (ORACLE) AND GIVING PROPHECY, ADVICE, AND PUJAS TO BE DONE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE MONASTERY FOR THE COMING YEAR. THE MONASTERY CONSULTS DORJE SHUGDEN IN THIS PEACEFUL FORM YEARLY OFFICIALLY ON TIBETAN NEW YEAR'S. BUT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR THEY AND MANY CONSULT AS AND WHEN IS NEEDED. THIS ORACLE WAS FAMOUS FOR TAKING FULL AND LONG TRANCES OF DULZIN AND GIVING VERY CLEAR PRONOUNCEMENTS FOR THE FUTURE. HIS PRONOUNCEMENTS WERE VERY CLEAR AND PRECISE. HE WAS ABLE TO REMAIN IN FULL TRANCE FOR MANY HOURS AT A TIME TO SPEAK.
IT IS THIS ORACLE DURING TRANCE THAT DISCOVERED THE LOCATIONS OF MANY GREAT TULKUS OF SERA, DREPUNG AND GADEN UPON CONSULTATION. THE GREAT INCARNATIONS OF THE CURRENT KYABJE PABONKHA RINPOCHE, KYABJE ZONG RINPOCHE AND KYABJE TRIJANG RINPOCHE WERE FOUND BY THIS GREAT ORACLE. ONLY WHEN FOUND BY THIS ORACLE, THE NAMES ACCURATELY WRITTEN THEN SUBMITTED TO DALAI LAMA FOR 'FINAL' APPROVAL.
TO SEE THIS PICTURE IS A RARE BLESSING IN ITSELF AS IT IS DORJE SHUGDEN IN PEACEFUL FORM IN FULL TRANCE.
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THE GREAT DORJE SHUGDEN TAKING ON FULL TRANCE IN WRATHFUL FORM OF THE FAMOUSE REKNOWNED ORACLE FROM SIMLA, INDIA. HERE IN THE BACKGROUND YOU WILL SEE H.H. KYABJE TRIJANG RINPOCHE (CURRENT) ON THE THRONE.
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DORJE SHUGDEN TAKING FULL TRANCE IN WRATHFUL FORM OF THE CURRENT GAMENG KUTEN TENZIN CHOEPHEL OF GADEN MONASTERY. THIS KUTEN (ORACLE) IS CURRENTLY 42 YEARS OLD AND RESIDES IN THE UNITED STATES. HE GREW UP IN ZONG RINPOCHE'S HOUSE IN GADEN. AND AT A YOUNG AGE, ZONG RINPOCHE ALREADY MENTIONED CLEARLY THAT HE WILL BE AN ORACLE. HE HAS WONDERFUL CENTRE IN INDIANA, USA.
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POWERFUL ACOLYTE AND 'RIGHT HAND MAN' OF DORJE SHUGDEN, KACHE MARPO WHO IS ONE IN NATURE WITH HAYAGRIVA. APPEARING IN A WORLDLY FORM, EVEN THOUGH FULLY ATTAINED. HE IS A DHARMA PROTECTOR IN HIS OWN RIGHT WITH HIS OWN PUJA TEXTS, PRAYERS, SERKYM, TORMA, ETC. :)
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THE OTHER POWERFUL ACOLYTE AND ENTOURAGE OF DORJE SHUGDEN IS THE MONGOLIAN NAMKAR BARZIN. WHO RIDES ON THE MYTHICAL ANIMAL GYALING. HE WAS INCLUDED ONTO THE ENTOURAGE OF DORJE SHUGDEN BY THE 20TH CENTURY MAHASIDDHA DROMO GESHE RINPOCHE WHO WAS WELL KNOWN TO BE THE EMANATION OF TSONGKAPA HIMSELF AS TOLD BY THE 13TH DALAI LAMA.
NAMKAR BARZIN ALSO IS A DHARMA PROTECTOR IN HIS OWN RIGHT BUT SERVES DORJE SHUGDEN AS KACHE MARPO DOES.
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Another old thangka of Namka Barzin. Some versions have him wearing an oracle hat as in previous picture and some in this white head covering. Both are valid.
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wrathful one!!
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FANTASTIC!!
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SLAYER AND ASSISTANT TO DORJE SHUGDEN, KACHE MARPO WHO IS ONE IN NATURE WITH HAYAGRIVA.
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NAMKAR BARZIN
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Fanstastic Powerhouses of Lord Tsongkapa's blazing dharma. Left to right: H.H. Kyabje Zong Rinpoche, H.H. Yongzin Trijang Dorje Chang, H.H. Kyabje Zemey Rinpoche. Three great power house lamas from Gaden Shartse Monastery who are responsible for passing on the lineage to so many young tulkus, Geshes and teachers. It is their kindness that today we have the pure Gelugpa Lineage alive, strong and flourishing. All Gelugpa lamas, tulkus, geshes, teachers and masters somehow will trace their lineage back directly or indirectly to these three great sublime beings. All great Gelugpa teachers including H.H. the Dalai Lama will have either one of these lamas as their lineage lamas that they supplicate daily.
Viewing their picture is immensely inspiring.
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by artist Jonathan Nadeau
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Geeese!
I just feel like meat in a skull-cup before this one!
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Dear Jonathan Nadeau,
What a fantastic picture of Lord Shugden. Please upload the whole picture in high resolution so i can print out and keep on my alter. I relish visual dharma very much. Thank you.
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THESE PHOTOS OF SUCH HOLY STATUES OF DORJE SHUGDEN FROM KHAM ARE FANTASTIC. THANK YOU TRINLEY KALSANG FOR POSTING THEM. DO POST MORE IN THE FUTURE. I ENJOY VIEWING SUCH HOLY VENERATED IMAGES. :) :) :) :) :) :)
I HOPE YOU CAN WORK TO GET THIS FORUM INTO TIBETAN LANGUAGE. THEN IT CAN BE ACCESSED IN THE TIBETAN COMMUNITIES AND TIBET ITSELF. ;D ;D ;D
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In your monastery?
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My dear fellow practitioners
I decided to enter this forum because I feel I have something to contribute.
My root guru Kyabje Zong Rinpoche always used to say “DS must be controlled, don’t let him take you over”. He rode the tiger. So did my other teacher, HE Trijang Rinpoche. DS has always been good to me, done incredible unbelievable things which I won't recount here because you would not believe it, causing thousands of deaths. But I am realistic because I don’t let DS rule me – I use him when I need him. As Kyabje Zong Rinpoche showed us how, I’m the boss. This is the trick some of us are missing I think, hung up with acting the victim, making jumped-up claims and criticising others instead of looking at what you do yourself. A motivation check is needed - what do we want to achieve, what is feasible, why are we doing this? Clarity is needed but confusion reigns and we are (to be blunt) pissing in the wind here. Let's find more positive and realistice means of action.
If our NKT students are discovered propitiating Guru Rinpoche or were found to have attended The Dalai Lama’s teachings, what happens? We throw them out before you can say “Jack Flash”. That’s the NKT’s right, because it’s our organisation, we make the rules, we do what we like. Nobody can complain.
Same thing in India. The monasteries and settlements belong to the CTA. They make the rules, if we don’t do what they say, we get thrown out. We cannot complain about that, no more than dissident KNT students expelled for worshipping Guru Rinpoche or attending Dalai Lama talks.
Let’s face it, brothers and sisters! It’s reality, isn't it?
So please let's get real. We are actually banging our own heads on a brick wall, and nobody will benefit, least of all ourselves. If our practitioners in India are not allowed in the monasteries or the settlements because the owners don’t like what they do, let's take a hike to more friendly pastures. What do we expect to achive except creating more tension and disharmony? Wake up, go to your cushions, quietly do our own thing, and try to sort our heads out.
John Mitchell
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what are you trying to say?
are you for real?
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Dear John Mitchell,
Nice opinions and totally flawed.
1. You are not Zong Rinpoche and you have no powers to CONTROL DORJE SHUGDEN. If you had powers, you wouldnt need Dorje Shugden would you? Dorje Shugden does not need to be controlled (Check out Trijang Rinpoche's writings).
When Zong Rinpoche gave you the practice, Dorje Shugden was acting from his commands not yours if there was a need at all that Dorje Shugden needs to be controlled/commanded. If there was a need, he would be helping you OUT OF THE COMMAND OF ZONG RINPOCHE. SO ZONG RINPOCHE JUST GIVES ONE COMMAND, WHOEVER PRACTICES Dorje Shugden, DONT HARM THEM. THAT WOULD BE More LOGICAL assuming Dorje Shugden harms if uncontrolled. But again he doesnt need to be controlled.
Just like Nechung today helps because he follows the commands of Guru Rinpoche. So today Nechung does help people, but following the original command of Guru Rinpoche. Because Nechung was originally a demon(See Exile From The Land of Snows by John Avedon, chapter Wheel of Protection).
2. The blacks of America should have never fought for civil rights equality. They should have just left America. After all it is controlled by the White Majority. Why should they speak up? It creates alot of tension and disharmony. What benefit is there in that. If they dont like it, get real, the blacks should just leave america. The Dorje Shugden practitioners should just leave the Monasteries. Just get out. But when they entered the Monasteries 10-20-30-40 years ago, it was ok to practice Dorje Shugden and openly. So suddenly you cant, so just get out? Is that logical?
3. I dont believe for one moment worshipping Guru Rinpoche would mean you are dissident in the NKT.
4. So anywhere there is oppression, dont bang your heads on the wall, just take it and keep quiet for the sake of 'peace?' And just get out!!! Who should 'get real?'
5. Dont read this website, we are all banging our heads, you should engage in meditations on your cushion and have peace, love and do your own thing.
I dont agree with you and I do apologize.
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Mountains,
you don't need to apologise! This is just bullshit and crap!
Everyone knows his claims are baseless. Don't bother answering.
Beggar, when you see these ridiculous posts just erase them quickly.
Admin, if you could block these persons from registering under a new name it would be great.
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Drear Mountains
I thank you for your response and no need for any apologies. It is highly commendable to enjoy an open debate forum between like-minded persons and this in itself defeats many accusations of our opponents who do not countenance such things as regards their own policies. I do respect your opinion and your rebuttals of my suggestions and I am happy to concede where appropriate and otherwise respond.
First I happily acknowledge you must be right as regards NKT policy towards propitiation of Guru Rinpoche. What I stated was what I understood to be the case in the UK 20 or more years ago, evidently mistakenly, but if it was never true or it has changed in the meantime that is fine. I accept your assurance 100%. Thanks for correcting me.
Secondly dare I suggest that comparing the situation of our monks in South India to the American democratic civil rights movement of the 1960s could be a false analogy. My premise is more that it resembles the situation in Tibet when the totalitarian Chinese PLA was in power in Tibet and was proceeding to exterminate Buddhism. In the former case, yes, one can resort to legal arguments in a democratic milieu, and based on the protection of a democratic and open society the civil rights movement can succeed, as it did so well. In the latter case, you have only two alternatives: be persecuted to death, or escape and establish your community in a safe place out of the reach of the oppressor, who despite the injustice of it all, has all the temporal power. I refer of course to the real situation as described elsewhere on this honourable website.
The Tibetan refugees from communism in the 1950's and 1960's were in the latter category and escaped to India and this very pragmatic "escape strategy" is what has preserved all the richness of Tibetan Dharma for us to inherit. If all the Tibetans had stayed in Tibet, and argued civil rights with the Chinese PLA, like the blacks in the USA, as many did, and as you would seem to prefer, it would most probably have become a lost cause and with few exceptions it did in fact lead to perdition and Dharma being largely wiped out altogether. Then there would have been no Tibetan refugee community in India, no diaspora of Tibetan Lamas in the west, in fact no Dharma going to the west, and no Dharmapala for you and me. Luckily, I say, the Tibetans were pragmatic (that is all I am floating here) and so here we are today – so fortunate! Any lessons to be learned?
I trust you now see the drift of my argument in a slightly better perspective. Let me know how you feel about it.
With respect and in all friendship,
John Mitchell
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John Mitchel,
I too am a disciple of Kyabje Zong Dorje Chang and I never I repeat never heard Him speak of Dorje Shugden as anything other than a Supermundane protector. I heard him predict the troubles we are now seeing when he gave the commentary to Heruka at Vajrapani in California. I did not have the good fortune to be in the presence of H.H. Trijang Dorje Chang but I have read enough including the kangtso to Dorje Shugden that clearly states that Dorje Shugden is Manjushri ,etc. a Supermundane protector. My best wishes to you.
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Dear Jeff Ryan,
How fortunate you were at Vajrapani to attend Kyabje Zong Rinpoche's commentary on Heruka. At that time, you said, that Rinpoche predicted the troubles we are seeing now, but did Rinpoche mention anything else like when the troubles will finish, or how it will conclude, or what will happen?
Please do your best to recall any further predictions Zong Rinpoche made re this issue. Thank you.
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I have the recording of the teaching .. i will have to find the exact spot.
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You guys are seriously discussing with this fraud!
Do you seriously Zong Dorjechang could have said the things this guy said he heard? Come on!
“DS must be controlled, don’t let him take you over”. Come On! From Zong Rimpoche?
"DS has always been good to me, done incredible unbelievable things which I won't recount here because you would not believe it, causing thousands of deaths." Causing thousands of Deaths??? Come on guys this is such crazy non-sense! you guys are replying to this clown!!!!!!!
"If our NKT students are discovered propitiating Guru Rinpoche..." Now he's from NKT !!??
"If our practitioners in India are not allowed in the monasteries or the settlements because the owners don’t like what they do, let's take a hike to more friendly pastures." He's supposed to be a student of Zong Rimpoche and Trijang Rimpoche but makes such naive statement over the 'owners' and doesn't know about monastic rules, Land properties, history of the practice, etc. Remember he's supposed to be an elder close student of both Lamas.
This is crap from A to Z this should be so obvious guys..........The whole script is just confused hilarious crap!
Rest your fingers friends........
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And you are being so polite with this clown !
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Dorje Shugden is to one who tamed Pabongkha and then requested him to teach Lam Rim for the benefits of millions of people.
It's an honor to be tamed directly by Dorje Shugden like a Guru-disciple relationship.
Also anybody who has read the Kangso even just once will notice hundreds of praise to Dorje Shugden's activities such as taming and showing the path.
Dorje Shugden doesn't need to be controlled. We need to be controlled and protected from ourselves. That's His main job.
Any body who tells me Zong Rimpoche said 'Dorje Shugden has to be controlled' I call him a LIAR and a FRAUD!
Admin, you should do a better job in cleaning up this website from these clowns otherwise the whole thing is going to turn into a Circus (It has already started, hasn't it?).
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Mitchell,
I´m a member of the NKT since 8 years ago. Of course, I think, you have many much years than me in the NKT. I have not the fortune and the blessings of having known HH Zong and Trijang Rinpoches.
You said that:
"If our NKT students are discovered propitiating Guru Rinpoche or were found to have attended The Dalai Lama’s teachings, what happens? We throw them out before you can say “Jack Flash”. That’s the NKT’s right, because it’s our organisation..."
I will quote some words of Geshe Kelsang Gyatso to this respect:
Can I Practice Buddhist and Non-Buddhist Teachings?
I find it [Christianity] a very nice religion, you know. A very nice religion. Relatively, sometimes it’s very similar to Buddhist ideas: encouraging people, we should love each other, help, be a good person, don’t do bad things... In the beginning, people can learn both, try to understand both (religions). But finally it’s very necessary to choose one. Otherwise there’ll be fighting inside, conflict. So therefore, finally they need to choose one. (Geshe Kelsang Gyatso, The Guide: Following the Buddhist Path, © 1996, 2000, 2007)
Can I Practice Different Buddhist Traditions at Once?
In the chapter on effort in Guide to the Bodhisattva’s Way of Life Shantideva advises us that before we commit ourself to engaging in a practice we should investigate it carefully to see whether it is suitable and whether we can sustain it; but once we have committed ourself to it we should never turn back but continue until we attain the final result. Switching from one practice to another unrelated practice not only prevents us from fulfilling our wishes in this life, but also makes it difficult for us to accomplish our goals in future lives. Moreover, it is often the cause of breaking our commitments and severing precious relationships, such as those that exist between Guru and disciple, and between spiritual friends.
We must be careful not to misunderstand the effort of non-satisfaction. Practicing this effort does not mean that we should become dissatisfied with our tradition or with our main practice, and try to follow many different traditions or mix together many different practices. Every Teacher and every tradition has a slightly different approach and employs different methods. The practices taught by one Teacher will differ from those taught by another, and if we try to combine them we shall become confused, develop doubts, and lose direction. If we try to create a synthesis of different traditions we shall destroy the special power of each and be left only with a mishmash of our own making that will be a source of confusion and doubt. Having chosen our tradition and our daily practices we should rely upon them single-pointedly, never allowing dissatisfaction to arise. At the same time as cherishing our own tradition we should respect all other traditions and the right of each individual to follow the tradition of their choosing. This approach leads to harmony and tolerance. It is mixing different religious traditions that causes sectarianism. This is why it is said that studying non-religious subjects is less of an obstacle to our spiritual progress than studying religions of different traditions.
Once we have decided which tradition to follow and which practices to do, we should engage in them wholeheartedly with a joyful mind. This is the power of joy. Whether we are listening to Dharma teachings, reading Dharma books, reciting prayers, contemplating, or meditating, we should do so with a light and happy mind, like a child at play. If we enjoy a practice we shall naturally have enthusiasm for it. (Geshe Kelsang Gyatso, Understanding the Mind: an Explanation of the Nature and Functions of the Mind, pp. 161-162, © 1993, 1997, 2002)
Is there a Rule that NKT Students Can Read Only NKT Books?
The NKT people have complete choice to read whatever books they choose, to follow other Teachers and to practise in whatever way they want. There are no rules limiting people’s freedom. However, I have understood according to experience that many Westerners find themselves in conflicting situations because of following many Teachers who give them opposite advice. Therefore they find serious obstacles in their spritual path. But still individuals have choice to practise in the way they choose. (Geshe Kelsang Gyatso, alt.religion.buddhism.tibetan, 16 November 1997)
[From Gen-la Kelsang Khyenrab, Deputy Spiritual Director of the NKT:]
The books at Manjushri Centre’s library, as Dharma texts, were treated with respect; they were given to Centres and libraries which studied the particular traditions explained within them. What is wrong with this?
New Kadampa disciples study the teachings of Buddha passed down through Je Tsongkhapa’s tradition to the modern Masters Je Phabongkhapa, Trijang Dorjechang and Ven. Geshe Kelsang. Other Centres study Buddha’s teachings according to their own lineage gurus. What is wrong with different spiritual families having their own special texts? Why is this so often misconstrued as sectarian? Why, because we are content to study and practise the path to enlightenment given to us by our root Guru, are we accused of sectarianism? This is plain nonsense.
In the early days at Tara Centre, we had several hundred books covering the whole range of Buddhist traditions. Each book was authentic and came from its own special lineage; we had the Pali Canon, Zen texts and many, many others. Many people would read these books and often the Centre would be host to seemingly endless and inconclusive discussions about people’s personal preferences in terms of Teachers, traditions and practices. It was very confusing and agreement about the actual meaning of Buddha’s teachings was very difficult to achieve.
Later I learned that it is accepted in Tibetan monasteries that each college has its own ‘yig cha’ or special understanding and interpretation of the teachings gained by study of a specific set of texts covering the whole Dharma within one tradition. By studying in this way clarity of meaning was far easier to attain due to a standard set of definitions of technical terms throughout each of the texts. (The editors at Tharpa Publications, for example, work constantly with Geshe Kelsang to standardise the terminology throughout his books to aid clarity of understanding for the serious student.)
It was the mid-1980’s and I had already received lots of teachings from many teachers of different traditions—very wonderful in itself but difficult to get a sense of making progress in learning and practising Dharma in any systematic and sequential way. We were students of Ven. Geshe Kelsang Gyatso, a fully accomplished meditation Master who had received fully the lineages of instructions within Je Tsongkhapa’s tradition.
He was in the process of publishing a complete set of texts covering the entire path to enlightenment. Each of these texts are authenticated by reference to the works of Je Tsongkhapa. When the Teacher Training Programme based on these books began at Tara Centre I saw the opportunity to study in a clear and systematic way the entire range of Buddha’s teachings on both Sutra and Tantra.
Therefore I saw nothing wrong with giving away all those texts from the library that were not part of this tradition. To me it made a lot of sense because at last there would be clarity. I remember at the time several people at the Centre, misunderstanding our intention, remarked that giving away the books was wrong, narrow-minded, disrespectful etc.
To me, sending the texts to the other Centres was quite appropriate and an action of generosity to boot! Some of those centres were very happy to receive valuable augmentation of their libraries and wrote to thank us. Useless heated debates about the meaning of Dharma from the point of view of a certain Zen master versus that of a certain Theravadin master became, thankfully, a thing of the past. Those who wished to follow Zen teachings would go to a Zen Centre and those who wished to follow a Theravadin could do the same and those wishing to follow Je Tsongkhapa’s tradition could study at Tara Centre.
I know from my own experience that the action of bringing clarity to our library and study programmes, far from being sectarian, actually reduced sectarian feelings among the Centre members. How wonderful for all traditions to happily enjoy the clarity and precision of Dharma understanding that I feel is now possible to attain in New Kadampa Centres. I have no reason to suppose that other traditions cannot do this and I rejoice in their special characteristics.
At Tara Centre no-one has ever been, or is now, forced to stop reading the books of other teachers; individual people were, and still are completely free to keep and read books by any other Teachers, Buddhist or non-Buddhist—and they do!
However, Tara Centre as an institution follows the ‘yig cha’ according to Ven. Geshe Kelsang Gyatso’s texts and therefore on the study programmes those books are studied and those books only are in the library and shop. There is no need to promote the books of other traditions; if individuals wish they can purchase them through mail-order or visit the local Waterstones, Dillons etc. (Gen-la Kelsang Khyenrab, alt.religions.buddhism.tibetan, 23 January 1998)
7§3. The Resident Teacher’s commitments shall include: ...to teach only subjects that form part of the three NKT Study Programmes; ...to respect other spiritual traditions and try to maintain good relations with them, but the Resident Teacher shall not mix his or her teachings and spiritual practices with those of other spiritual traditions;...
[Please note: Emphasis added to show that these rules apply only to Teachers, and even then only in terms of what is taught on the NKT study programs, not what they may or may not read in private. As was explored in Standing Up for the Middle Way, not all forms of exclusivism are sectarian.]
That is to say, we can read another books of another traditions or religions, there is nothing wrong with that, as we can not mix all that we read. We can read another Buddhist lineages, for example, in order to undestand the history of Budhhism, lineages, systems of beliefs or whatever, but we have to concentrate in our tradition if we have made the choice or the compromise with ourselves to belong to this tradition. Actually, Gueshe Kelsang have said that it would be very useful to read another buddhist texts or treatises of Pabongkha, Shantideva, Trijang,Tsongkapha, Langri Tangpa, Atisha, Nagarjuna, Chandrakirti, Milarepa, Naropa etc...
This is not a complaint, I olny want to clarify certain, not in my words, but in the words of Gueshe Kelsang and Guen-la Kelsang Khyenrab
With sincere love
Vajra
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Wonderful Vajra,this should be placed In wikipedia for all those opposed to our tradition can finally understand.
I will have the good fortune to meet Gen-la this February in a meeting with our sangha during his Ca. tour...will be wonderful to speak with him.
PS,any response from Manjushri about the letter regarding this website?
Blessings,
David
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Dear Alexis
Don’t get so excited. I have been a Buddhist since 1963 – that’s 45 years. I remember distinctly when it came on the news that the Dalai Lama came out of Tibet on March 31st 1959 and I immediately started researching what this meant. I then travelled to India in 1965 to meet the lamas, to find the enlightened ones. That was 2 years before the first lamas came to the west (Akhong Rinpoche and Chogyam Trungpa were the first out, they went to the UK in 1967).
Now I see the hundreds of lamas and geshes all over the world – there are 4,350 Buddhist centres in North America alone – most of them practising the Dharmapala.
So yes, you can call me a fraud and a liar and rant as much as you like, but I have nothing to lose and no pretensions, I tell you the honest truth.
Thousands died? You don’t believe me? It was back in ’78, when I was incarcerated in an Iranian jail, Zendan Vakilabad, outside the holy city of Mashed, on a 44-year sentence. My name is registered there as a prisoner to this day, anyone can check. Due to the ‘legal’ system in Iran at the time, there was no hope whatsoever of my reprieve or release. I therefore requested pujas which invoked the protector to be carried out by my friends in India, to get me out of there, pronto, and these commenced in the first week of November 1978. The special requests were first for the prison walls to shake, as I sign that I would soon be released, and second for the Shah to be overthrown as this was the only way I could hope to get out of jail.
As soon as the first puja was completed there was an immediate severe earthquake and unfortunately – it was not foreseen, desired or expected by me – around 5,000 people in the local region, Khorasan, lost their lives. Check the history of this news on the internet. The walls did shake, believe me! The pujas continued and the Iranian Islamic Revolution then began in earnest. The Shah called in the helicopters to machine-gun the rioting crowds, and ordered the tanks to run amok in the slum areas, crushing the huts and all the people inside them. But it did not go well for him and by the end of December I was freed by the Islamic revolutionaries and helped out of Iran by my revolutionary friends within a couple of weeks, just before Khomeini arrived back from Paris. The morning I got into Teheran about January 14th, it was full of revolutionary guards toting Kalashnikovs, many buildings were burning, bodies lay in the streets - and the Shah had fled to exile in Egypt just the night before with his wife, never to return. If Khomeini knew exactly how it was that he got there and became Supreme Leader of Iran and the Islamic Revolution that followed, he would also have been very grateful to me and Dorje Shugden!
I am sorry it did not turn out well for the US of A, either!
So don’t get so excited, Alexis, and don’t abuse me; in fact don’t abuse anyone. Getting so angry when confronted with the truth makes you look bad, and not only is it against the rules of this respected forum but I also evidently have a very good relationship with DS, bear it in mind.
About Guru Rinpoche and the NKT, I already conceded the point to Mountains, can’t you read? I have no problem at all admitting when I am wrong about something and apologising for it. But it remains true, I think, that if NKT students attend Dalai Lama events they are out, anyway you get the point, right? The owners make the rules, for the wise men and the fools...
I have never been a member of the NKT either, don’t misread me, I wrote “our” NKT only in the sense they that are part of "our" DS movement (in a loose sense that it). I will join no such organisation, I don’t need it, membership organisations are for poor lost people to cling to in my view and I don't feel like that.
If you want to have me banned from your forum and call me a fraud and a liar, and my suggestions to be bullshit and crap, simply because you disagree with my opinions and my experience, gnashing your teeth like that in response to sensible, pragmatic, realistic and practical suggestions about the misguided long term strategy you are apparently suporting, people will have to draw their own conclusions about you and your forum, won’t they? No problem, I have better things to do, I was just trying to help.
Why don’t you check with DS about me first? You might just be in for a little surprise!
I hope this helps you get a better perspective and are able to cool down a bit and admit you overstepped the mark of this forum.
In all friendship,
John Mitchell
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You have no relationship with Dorje Shugden and you obviously have never read the Kangso.
Also you were never a close or direct disciple of either Zong Rimpoche or Trijang Rimpoche.
"Dorje Shugden needs to be controlled" is Dharamsala crap propaganda, saying that show you have no connexion with the Ganden Lineage...your a Fraud!
No need to reply to your lies and made up stories!
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John,
You haven't sold me. I don't really want to get into a debate over what our Masters taught regarding the Enlightened nature of our Dharmapala. It is very well documented. Your statement about controlling is contradictory to everything taught by H.H. Trijang Dorje Chang and H.H. Zong Dorje Chang. The kangtso authored by H.H. Trijang Dorje Chang contradicts your assertion. There are many many more evidences but I will spend no more time on it.You will forgive me if I choose to believe our Lineage Masters over you. I heard Dulzin say once: " Those that view me as a Buddha receive the blessing of the Buddha, those that view me as a protector receive the blessing of a protector, those that view me as a ghost receive the blessing of a ghost".
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Also, to imply that the practice of Dorje Shugden causes calamities such as earthquakes or that it causes death of innocent people (by the thousands!!!) is so ridiculous, it's pathetic! Because all of us Dorje Shugden practitionners know that even if you pray to Duldzin with an angry mind and an evil motivation for a 1000 years, your will only get peaceful results that subdue your own mind.
It's better you follow your own idea and head off to greener pasture..who ever you are!
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Dear Alexis and jeff ryan
Now just calm down, there is no fraud, only someone offering good advice if you had the ears to hear it, everything I’ve written is absolutely true and you are assuming a great deal more than what I have stated, then calling me a fraud for not being what you have yourself wrongly assumed. You should get your exercise in other ways than jumping to conclusions, you might get ruptured.
First of I have never, ever written that I was a DS practitioner, and neither I have ever, ever written that I was not. My practice is totally private to myself alone and I would never reveal it to anyone but my teachers. Certainly not over the internet, to faceless and unstable people writing secretly under false identities like yourselves. Check it out. Quote me, and I will answer you again, I am ready for it and up to it. Truth speaks with its own voice and your baby-like browbeating, protestations and shriekings do not intimidate me in the least.
I have got my root guru Kyabje Zong Rinpoche on tape saying what exactly what I have quoted, which I heard with my own ears, and I can send you a copy if you so desire - if you deign to ask me nicely.
I also very much hope that you are right, and the thousands who died in Iran in the course of my impossible escape did not lose their lives due to the intervention of DS. It just seemed far too much of a coincidence at the time, and my DS friends in India who did me the service certainly claimed full credit for the deadly efficacy of their pujas, invoking DS to get me out of there. They also took the money. So let us give DS the benefit of the doubt and say that it was your DS puja-wallahs who were fraudulent, OK?
Is there anything else at all that you think I have been “fraudulent” about? Or are you being over-defensive, i.e. paranoid schizoid psychos?
Let me know, and I will prove you wrong. Dead wrong!
John Mitchell
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For Alexis.
This man has a problem in his mind, we dont response him unless he reduce his proudness.
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Please stop critisizing each other.. It's the purpose of this forum to help and inspire each other, not bicker and try to prove each other wrong.
The sub heading of this discussion is Pictures, so let's see some more Pictures... :)
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I agree this has become bickering I will no longer participate in it. no benefit.
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Dorje in The uk..
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Dearest Alexis, jeff ryan, Mountains, Richard, Mohani and friends
Not talking to me? No answers? Don’t want to hear the incredible voice of Zong Dorje Chang saying what you don’t want to hear? Determined to stay in denial?
No problem.
Your attitudes ‘demonstrate’ where you are coming from... as had been assumed, and you have proven it true again - if any proof were needed. Just checking for myself that there is still no change in the camp strategy. Thanks for the affirmation, and sorry for you.
I leave you now, in your sad little bubble of self-pitying bliss, praying you will all find a way out of your predicament and manage somehow to make yourselves of benefit to others.
Bye-bye. I must admit that as well as being instructive and interesting, it has also been great fun to play with you a little - in fact, a real bag of laughs - were you not all so sad and unhappy. I pray for you, that your positive potentials will blossom soon, and no harm results.
Adieu and Blessings,
Mitchell
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Dear John Mitchell,
I am truly sorry that you had to undergo such trials in your life. I also know, being myself an old practitioner, that there are in our lives, as the solitaries know it too well, long periods of "desert" in our hearts, when it seems that the practice doesn't help, when we have doubts about everything, even the possibility of liberation for ourselves, let alone for others. As I see that yourself also are an old practitioner, older than me, I respectfully rejoice in all your precious efforts, from my heart. If I said something playful in the Guestbook, that might've hurt you, please understand that we are here under the strain of seeing a very tragic situation develop and that we don't have the hearts to abandon our brother monks in India, so we are a little jumpy, sorry.
You think we should not do anything, it is your right to think that. But we feel and think otherwise. I beg you, humbly, really with the softest mind that sometimes I can have because my holy Protector is helping me with that, I beg you, could we leave aside theoretical discussions until this situation is in some way resolved? Could you leave us to our endeavors --or join us-- because we are really trying to focus and yes, it is difficult with the type of messages you have been sending.
I concede that Rinpoche might have said something of the sort about not allowing DSh to control us. Rinpoche knew our minds and knew that we could try to obtain mundane objects, more and more, from the kindness of our Protector. So it seems evident that he was referring to the Dorje Shugden of our mind, the one we create with our own desires, fears, the usual mixture of pure and impure aims. If you agree with us that His Holiness Dorje Shugden is an emanated Buddha, born from the great compassion and wisdom of Manjushri Yamantaka, then you will agree that nobody could refer to him as being one that is suitable to control. Another thing is that many times people thing "HE" is coming in the trance, and it's someone of the korlo, i.e., not necesarily an enlightened person, of course (although always wonderfully, faithfully under oath to Venerable Dulzin).
So, dearest John, be welcome among us, but please, please, leave us some space, some peace of mind for our feeble minds, to be able to try and do something about the very bad situation of our monks in India.
We will have time to discuss later all the matters, every one of them, that you are bringing here, and of course they are worth discussing, no doubt. But later.
With much love and consideration,
a Friend
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Dear John Mitchell,
I am truly sorry that you had to undergo such trials in your life. I also know, being myself an old practitioner, that there are in our lives, as the solitaries know it too well, long periods of "desert" in our hearts, when it seems that the practice doesn't help, when we have doubts about everything, even the possibility of liberation for ourselves, let alone for others. As I see that yourself also are an old practitioner, older than me, I respectfully rejoice in all your precious efforts, from my heart. If I said something playful in the Guestbook, that might've hurt you, please understand that we are here under the strain of seeing a very tragic situation develop and that we don't have the hearts to abandon our brother monks in India, so we are a little jumpy, sorry.
You think we should not do anything, it is your right to think that. But we feel and think otherwise. I beg you, humbly, really with the softest mind that sometimes I can have because my holy Protector is helping me with that, I beg you, could we leave aside theoretical discussions until this situation is in some way resolved? Could you leave us to our endeavors --or join us-- because we are really trying to focus and yes, it is difficult with the type of messages you have been sending.
I concede that Rinpoche might have said something of the sort about not allowing DSh to control us. Rinpoche knew our minds and knew that we could try to obtain mundane objects, more and more, from the kindness of our Protector. So it seems evident that he was referring to the Dorje Shugden of our mind, the one we create with our own desires, fears, the usual mixture of pure and impure aims. If you agree with us that His Holiness Dorje Shugden is an emanated Buddha, born from the great compassion and wisdom of Manjushri Yamantaka, then you will agree that nobody could refer to him as being one that is suitable to control. Another thing is that many times people thing "HE" is coming in the trance, and it's someone of the korlo, i.e., not necesarily an enlightened person, of course (although always wonderfully, faithfully under oath to Venerable Dulzin).
So, dearest John, be welcome among us, but please, please, leave us some space, some peace of mind for our feeble minds, to be able to try and do something about the very bad situation of our monks in India.
We will have time to discuss later all the matters, every one of them, that you are bringing here, and of course they are worth discussing, no doubt. But later.
With much love and consideration,
a Friend
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Dear friends,
I just want to clarify something I heard and do not want to pursue this topic on a 'bickering' note.
If Dorje Shugden 'had to be controlled' (in the sense of a deluded wrathfull spirit) then there would be no point in us taking 'SOG DE', the initiation in which we ENTRUST OUR ENTIRE LIFE to Him (Dorje Shugden) in the presence of Tsongkhapa. He is the guide for us (and our entire tradition) showing the Path. He is also the keeper of the Ganden Emanation Scripture. If he 'had to be controlled' in the sense previously understood, then our most secret teachings would be in very unstable hands........this is not so!
Just wanted to clarify this in order for some readers not to get confused.
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Re-reading some of my former post in this section, I had the uncontrollable urge to make some of them disapear.
But since they show my actual level of spiritual development (such as having no patience) I'll keep them there as a reminder.
This is a drawing by Kyabje Dagom Dorjechang's own hand in his last few days. When translating the Kangso in French, we were not sure about how to translate the noose (Lasso, knot, etc.), so we requested Rimpoche for an explanation. He gave us this drawing.
I don't know if you will see properly but the obstructor caught in the noose really doesn't look too happy.
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Dear Friends
My old acquaintance John Mitchell was just telling me about his vain attempts to join your forum to offer you what he honestly thought was good advice last week, when he was met by a chorus of accusations of being a “fraud” and a “liar” and "obstructor" from a selection of your regulars.
Although his account is really quite astonishing, and one might be forgiven for not believing it, please let me reassure you that he is a serious, experienced and respected person who was indeed in an Iranian jail in 1978 on a very long sentence and who did get out, exactly as he has described to you, within just a few months. I was myself living in India at the time and assisted in arranging the pujas invoking DS´s help to get him out of there and it all happened exactly as he wrote. Of course, there is no proff, it may have been just a huge coincidence, but the monks at the monastery who did the divinations and the pujas certainly took full ‘credit’ for it. I was assured that the “collateral” deaths of the innocents was a purification process and all according to their own individual and collective karma.
Further, John has not had a ‘hard life’ as your regular "a Friend" as assumed, as if he is disturbed and one should feel sorry for him, but has enjoyed a very full life and has no regrets. He spent over 20 years in the Indian subcontinent in total, speaks several of the languages fluently and the tales he tells of his travels and adventures in Asia are just enthralling. He is now retired with a wife and grown up children, a highly respectable member of society and although I do not know anything about his personal Dharma practices I can say that he is widely respected as a very sincere Buddhist and by no means a liar or a fraud. He works for a local charity club and even at his ripe old age he is still always busy striving for others and helping people along to the best of his ability.
I send you all my personal warmest and most respectful regards and I hope my comments will not be taken amiss and that my contribution will not be dismissed by you in a similar manner as John’s has been. I think, unless there is a solid reason to doubt it, one should always take people at their word, sincerely, and see the good in what they are trying to say.
I have not informed John that I am writing this as he feels he already made his point sufficiently well and does not wish to be further involved, nor do I intend to follow this up in any way nor write to you again myself. It is just to speak up for John and assist you to have a better perspective on your recent exchanges with him. He felt sorry to have been provoked into being somewhat confrontational in the end but had his sincere advice been received with a modicum of civility I do not think he would have felt obliged end up to expressing himself in the way he regretfully did.
I hope your efforts to help the monks in India will be successful and reduce their suffering.
Glynn Stewart
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If this is so then I am truly profoundly sorry for my reaction.
My sincere apologies goes to Mr. Mitchell.
Howerver you have to understand Mr. Mitchell's posts seemed really unbelievable and we had been going, at that time, thru a week of relentless pranking and provokation in the Guestbook.
We legitimately thought the pranksters from the Guestbook were coming in the Forum.
Please don't keep a grudge...
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I have to say Mr. Mitchel made claims that are complete nonsense in that Trijang Dorje Chang and Kyabje Zong Rinpoche referred to Dorje Shugden as a spirit and not a Supermundane protector. He even claimed to have recordings proving his case. Since I know Zong Dorje Chang NEVER said such a thing then Mr. Mitchel managed to make some gigantic misunderstandings for a student of Dharma for 45 years.
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Dear friends,
Although we have our minds in the Southern India events, there is one thing I would like to clarify.
It doesn't matter who said that the holy Protector produced an earthquake and started the Iranian revolution in order to free John from prison. It doesn't matter if some monks said so, or John said so. It is just wrong.
I don't remember now which part of the collected works of Je Rinpoche and his sons speaks about people who follow Dharma and people who follow other's words with blind faith. It is powerfully adviced there not to follow other's words without investigation.
This is a teaching that follows closely the teachings of the Buddha himself.
Based on that let me tell you that we should stop praising as virtue what is non virtue, we should stop attributing to Buddhas the most unspeakable actions and talk about skillful means. To believe that a holy Buddha killed thousands of people and brought about a revolution in order to free from prison a single person is a wrong view. Buddhas try to learn and investigate and practice for kalpas and kalpas in order to eradicate suffering. How dare we insult them proclaiming that they go about creating more suffering, this doesn't stand to reason.
Let me at least propose an alternative scenario. Let's imagine that John had some karma that was going to mature at some point in this life time. I could imagine how, traveling here and there, he could have encountered this karma in much worse circumstances, and let to rot even until today in some obscure prison somewhere else. I don't think it impossible that the Protector could've arranged things in such way that he went to prison at that place, at that moment, allowing him to take advantage for his liberation of circumstances that were going to be produced in any case by other sets of collective karma that the Protector didn't have the power to stop. There you go. I'm not saying it happened that way, but it could've happened. One thing I can tell you, the Protector doesn't do the things you are describing.
Happy to hear that John is doing well. May he have a long, happy, holy and prosperous life.
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HH kyabje Pabongkha Dorje Chang and HH kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang
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HH the great 10th Panchen Lama. A great victorious lineage holder of Lama Tsongkapa's infallible doctrine a practitioner of Lord Dorje Shugden.
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Reputed by High lamas to be the incarnation of Ratna Shugden, His Eminence the Great Mongolian Lama Guru Deva Rinpoche is seated here in his homeland of Mongolia. He is highly sought after, very much venerated and deeply respected by the Mongolian people. Rinpoche is now residing in Mongolia and in his nineties.
He is a great devotee of HH kyabje Trijang Rinpoche. Originally from Drepung Gomang Monastery, he built a large residence in Kathmandu and also he built the famous Gaden Samtenling Monastery in Bodhanath, Nepal where until the ban, was openly practicing Dorje Shugden. He also has restored major historical Monasteries in his homeland of Mongolia.
During Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche's lifetime, he was a major sponsor of Trijang Rinpoche well known for his deep guru devotion.
It is said that when he was a very young monk, he made his way from Mongolia to Lhasa, he did prostrations all the way!
He has sponsored numerous dialectical texts for Gaden, Sera and Drepung for their studies. He is and was one of the major sponsors of the great Drepung Loseling Monastery.
He is one of the old great Masters left from a Tibet that valued guru devotion, serving the sangha and holding one's commitments strongly.
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HH Kyabje Pabongkha Dorje Chang wearing the Heruka Ornaments. He is highly revered to be a direct emanation of Heruka Chakrasamvara.
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His Holiness The Great Kyabje Zong Rinpoche who is such an erudite accomplished Master Himself, yet so humble in the presence of His Root Guru, which of course is the Fully enlightened, Master of all Masters, His Holiness Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang. Whose name and deeds are like the sun and the moon to Tibetan Buddhism.
Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang is recognized to be within the line of incarnations that began as Lord Buddha Shakyamuni's Chariot driver Chandra. Trijang Rinpoche was Chandra. His line of incarnations stem back to the time of Lord Shakyamuni Himself. What an illustrious line.
What a blessed photo of these great masters for all to be blessed upon viewing. May everyone come under their joyful care.
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(left) His Holiness Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche. (Right) His Holiness Zong Choktrul Rinpoche.
If practicing Dorje Shugden breaks refuge and therefore undermines your practice, harms the Tibetan cause, and brings harm to the body of HH the Dalai Lama, that would be heavy negative karma sending you to the 3 lower realms. Then why are these two great incarnations back again and recognized by HH the Dalai Lama after confirmation by Dorje Shugden via the great Choyang Dulzin Kuten of Gaden??
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His Holiness the Dalai Lama with his two great tutors for most of his life. It is due to the kindness of these two tutors that His Holiness completed his studies of Geshe, recieved most of his lineages, transmissions and commentaries that he is passing to so many in the world today.
Both HH Ling Rinpoche and HH Trijang Rinpoche studied the Panchen Sonam Drakpa curriculums in their respective Monasteries to attain full Geshe. Ling Rinpoche of Drepung Loseling and Trijang Rinpoche of Gaden Shartse both rely on the Panchen Sonam Drakpa texts for their main corpus of studies. Of course Panchen Sonam Drakpa is one of the predecessors of Lord Dorje Shugden.
The connection to Dorje Shugden is initimate and in so many ways.
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The humble Venerable Nechung Rinpoche of Nechung Monastery. This picture was of Rinpoche in Hawaii where he has his Dharma centre. He is the only incarnate Lama of Nechung Monastery from Tibet and currently. And the pleasant surprise is that Nechung Rinpoche practiced Dorje Shugden throughout his life along with practicing Nechung Protector until his death. He had no conflicts with that. And his incarnation is back. The monks of his monastery also had no conflicts with that. The 'conflicts' are recent.
It is said that Nechung protector will become enlightened and 'retire.' That Dorje Shugden is waiting at the Southern Door of Nechung Monastery (symbolically) to take over as the King of the Samsara Overlord's. That is in Nechung Monastery's own history and chronicles. Can see in 'Oracles and Demons of Tibet' by Rene De Nebesky-Wojkowitz Phd. Lecturer at the University of Vienna. Book Faith India publications pg 446.
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Very devoted disciple of His Holiness Kyabje Zong Rinpoche and Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche, is HE Gangchen Rinpoche here pictured in Varanasi. HE Gangchen Rinpoche has been true to the lineage of Zong Rinpoche and faithfully practices Dorje Shugden. He is open and honest about it. For this he is considered an enemy of Tibetans by the Tibetan Government in exile. And for his practice of Dorje Shugden he has been expelled from Sera Mey Monastery of which he has brought much financial benefit in the past.
Rinpoche has his own illustrious Monastery in Tibet very nearby Tashi Lunpo also which is rebuilt. His current and previous incarnations are very close to the line of Panchen Lamas. He has tremendous healing powers and his line of incarnations are known to be powerful healers. When Rinpoche built his current healing and meditation centre in Nepal, there was no water. Upon Rinpoche's arrival at the site, a spring naturally sprung forth and until this day providing water for the whole meditation and healing centre. They make their own medicines their, they have a free school, guest house, also traditional Tibetan furniture making premises.
He has many teachings, videos and books out that Rinpoche has authored specifically for modern day healing incorporating ancient tantric meditations with modern excercises. Rinpoche mentioned that before he started these healing excercises he consulted Dorje Shugden through his medium. Dorje Shugden said it would be very beneficial and that he should definitely make known these practices. Speak, teach and write regarding these practices. That it would benefit many. With that, Rinpoche has embarked on his highly successful body and mind tantric healing excercises that the Tibetan Government in exile vehemently ridicules, and discourages on their 'official' websites. How sad, as such a powerful incarnate lama if the Tibetan Government makes 'friends' with would be to their benefit. HE Gangchen Rinpoche's only 'crime' is that he practices Dorje Shugden.
The Tibetan Government also criticizes him for going to Beijing to 'pay respects' to the Chinese endorsed Panchen Lama. When asked why Gangchen Rinpoche does that, he says, dont antagonize China further. We are a small group of people against the might of all China. We cannot win, so it is better to make friends with them. The important issue is to have some autonomy in Tibet to save the culture, and the spiritual practices while there is time otherwise it will be lost Rinpoche mentions. So Rinpoche's motive to meet the China endorsed Panchen lama is to make China 'happy' so their stance in Tibet would be less harsh. He mentions he has no intention of disrespect toward HH the Dalai Lama or the Panchen Lama that HH Dalai Lama endorses.
Gangchen Rinpoche mentions that HH the Dalai Lama is the guru of all Tibet, how can we go 'against' him. Why would we? We would not think of that. But he has commitments to do his Dorje Shugden practice as recieved by HH Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang. His practice of Dorje Shugden is not meant as something against HH the Dalai Lama. Gangchen Rinpoche believes that Trijang Rinpoche gave that practice to help spiritual practitioners to overcome their heavy kaliyuga obstacles not something to harm HH the Dalai Lama. Trijang Rinpoche would have no such intentions. Dorje Shugden practices originally was not intended for that purpose at all. And it remains the same now.
Also to stop a practice given by a lama, you must ask the permission of the lama you received it from. Any lama CANNOT OVERRIDE THE COMMAND OF YOUR lama or any other lama from whence you recieved the practice from. Since Trijang Rinpoche gave the practice and he has passed, Gangchen Rinpoche wouldnt have the chance to ask Trijang Rinpoche to be excused from it. But since HH the Dalai Lama is advising not to worship, and he is alive, then it would make more sense that Gangchen Rinpoche requests the Dalai Lama to allow him to practice to continue practicing.
Gangchen Rinpoche comes from a long line of Healing lamas. His lineage started originally from the Indian Mahasiddha Darikapa (pictured below). Those of you who have great fortune should recieve healing practices from the Lord of the healing Yogis, His Eminence Gangchen Rinpoche of Sera Mey and Gangchen Monastery Tibet DIRECTLY. It is highly efficacious and powerful. Having a strong body, and long life can very much allow us freedom to practice the holy dharma. From time to time for those fortunate to request, HE Gangchen Rinpoche also bestows the life entrustment initiation of Dorje Shugden. He will conferr upon request. It is best you have one of the annutaratantra initiations prior as a prerequesite to recieve.
Gangchen Rinpoche is also famous and a reknowned practitioner of the kurukulle, Oserchenma, Kalachakra, Yamantaka, Heruka and Vajra Yogini tantras among many practices. He is a master of the construction of their mandalas. If one has the great fortune to be in Italy, one must visit Rinpoche at his retreat centre there situated near a lake. He has very special connection to the healing practices for many types of diseases. His practices that he has conferred to people in the past has expedited the healing of certain cancers among other diseases. He is famous for his pills and healing skin pills also for skin ailments.
Being in Rinpoche's presence, one can feel great love, high wisdom and one of the last masters trained in Tibet. How fortunate Rinpoche's powerful incarnation is among us.
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King of Sutra and Tantra, unrivalled in the Three Realms, HH Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang (left).
Perfected Master, Mahasiddha, Holder of the Pure Gaden Lineage, HH Kyabje Zong Dorje Chang (right).
Picture taken in sacred Gaden Shartse Monastery during puja as if the sun and the moon were both in one room. How fortunate to have audience with this picture. May all of you come under their sacred protection in all your lives.
May many of you click on it, save it, and print out this picture for you to place on your alter as a infallible object of refuge.
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Holy healing lama, holder of Lord Losang Drakpa's Lineage, Brave and Courageous with your commitments, may we have the fortune to come under your joyful care and one day meet you.
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Healing Mahasiddha
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During His Birthday celebrations. May HH Trijang Rinpoche live long!!!
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Full painting of Dorje Shugden by artist Jonathan Nadeau. Thank you Tenzin Dorje for providing this great picture!
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KYABJE PABONGKHA DECHEN NYINGPO IN HERUKA DRESS
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do tell us more about jangtse rinpoche please. thnks
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Yangtse Rinpoche is the incarnation of the Geshe Rabten Rinpoche. He resides at Rabten Choeling under the care of the great Gonsar Rinpoche.
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Is it jangtse rinpoche or yangtse rinpoche????? thanks.
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We call him Yangsik Rinpoche. Yang-Sik meaning reincarnated. :)
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first one is of Ven.Geshe Kelsang Gyatso Rinpoche in New York at the Temple,and 2nd is an obvious wallpaper I made awhile back.
I loved the photo taken of GKG,i wanted to share it with those outside NKT to enjoy as well.
It's actually a powerful shot.
The last shot is of an anonymous drawing of our lineage that was framed at our main center in california.
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Fantastic idea and drawing of the lineage picture. May Geshe-la live a thousand years.
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This is DS. protector of Brazil!!!
Enjoy
Rafael
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Dorje Shugden in America!
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What a great statue of Dorje Shugden from America!!! Wow!! Where to get one like that.
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Viewing, seeing, remembering, hearing and listening to the Lama brings waves of benefit and plants seeds of enlightenment to the mindstream. Prostrations to the Mahasiddha Gangchen Rinpoche.
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Bodhisattva Langri Tangpa (based on Trijang) by Kelsang Palden, as depicted in Eight steps to happiness by Ven' Geshe Kelsang Gyatso.
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Dorje Shugden in America!
Powerful looking!
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Dakpo Rinpoche of france does not have Shugden Sogtae, but he is well known to frequently consult Dorje Shugden through his oracles. He often ask questions in regards to his work as he has tremendous faith in Dorje Shugden.
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Dakpo Rinpoche flies to Trijang Institute in the USA to pass lineages, teachings and transmissions to HH Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche. He was also invited to teach there. He has close relations with his root guru Trijang Rinpoche previous and current incarnations. He deeply has faith in in Trijang Rinpoche's lineage. He consistently prays to and consults Dorje Shugden for his dharma works. Dakpo Rinpoche never bowed under the political pressure of the Tibetan Government.
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H.H. the Great Panchen Lama is the undisputed second in rank to the Dalai Lama in Tibet. In the Dalai Lama's absence, only the Panchen Lama is the universal lama that all Tibetans in Tibet would listen to. It was said by the Dalai Lama that he took care of Tibetans outside of Tibet while Panchen Lama took care of Tibetans within Tibet. HH Panchen Lama, the holder of all vast and profound lineages of sutra/tantra and Gaden Ear whispered lineage spoke for Buddhism and preservation of Buddhist culture until his death. He was kept under torture and prison for more than ten years but his incredible spirit could not be broken.
H.H. Panchen Lama was another great practitioner of Gyelchen Dorje Shugden. A Lama of his attainments and caliber practicing Dorje Shugden and having a chapel in his own Tashilunpo Monastery to this great protector which is active today cannot be mistaken. Dorje Shugden's practice is held in high esteem by highly attained lamas of the highest rank such as Panchen lama. Pujas to Dorje Shugden are carried out in Tashi lunpo Monastery everyday until now. The previous Panchen lamas have been the tutors to the previous Dalai Lamas many times. The Dalai Lama and Panchen Lama have had lama disciple relationships for many lifetimes.
Here H.E. Gangchen Rinpoche is pictured with Panchen Rinpoche. Gangchen Rinpoche's personal Monastery is very nearby Tashi lunpo in Shigatse. Gangchen Rinpoche is a great disciple of Panchen lama and they were very close. They would offer golden drink (serkym) to Dorje Shugden together for the welfare of practitioners. Gangchen Rinpoche himself comes from a long illustrious line of incarnations stemming from Mahasiddha Darikapa in India.
Gangchen Rinpoche has developed a set of incredible healing techniques that are very appropriate for modern times. The techniques use the four elements of the body, 5 chakras, light, chanting, hand and body mudras, the kalacakra tantra and visualizations on the 5 dhayani Buddhas. They are very effective to bring balance to the body, restore vigor, enhance meditations, heal sicknesses, heal depression, overcome anxiety and fear. Many people have attested to it and its popularity has grown tremendously among Rinpoche's followers in Europe, South America and Asia. Can see on Gangchen Rinpoche's website. Fantastic videos available. The incredible part is that prior to Rinpoche revealing the practices to his students, he consulted Dorje Shugden directly via the oracle. Dorje Shugden came in his peaceful form and spoke to Gangchen Rinpoche in the form of Dulzin. Dulzin said to proliferate this ancient healing technique. He was pleased and encouraged this practice. Lama Gangchen Rinpoche has tirelessly taught this practice many times. It is on video and in books. Very powerful, easy, adaptable and yet based on the ancient healing tantras of Tibet. Gangchen Rinpoche also produces very powerful blessing pills one can soak in water to drink or insert into creams to rub on affected areas that are very efficacious in healing. Very much sought after by Tibetans. Rinpoche has the kalacakra festival yearly also in his beautiful Northern retreat centre in Italy. In this festival yearly he passes down ancient oral transmissions, teachings and commentaries on Kalacakra and related. In Rinpoche's personal Monastery Kalacakra is highly esteemed. We are very fortunate that HE Gangchen Rinpoche continues to teach, travel and proliferate the dharma.
Here we have the photo uploaded in high quality so you may print out and keep on your shrines. May HH Panchen Rinpoche and the Mahasiddha Gangchen Rinpoche bless you always.
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DEAR ADMIN,
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING SUCH A WONDERFUL PICTURE OF THESE TWO GREAT LAMAS. CAN SEE THE CLOSENESS OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP FROM THIS PICTURE. :) :) :)
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His Eminence Gangchen Tulku Rinpoche has very strong connections to HH Panchen Rinpoche. He is the reincarnation of the second Abbot (throne holder Panchen Zangpo Tashi 1410-1478) of Panchen Rinpoche's personal Monastery Tashi Lunpo in Shigatse. Here is a picture of Gangchen Rinpoche in front of the the stupa containing the relics of Zangpo Tashi housed in Tashi Lunpo. A stupa with relics of his Gangchen Rinpoche's own predecessor.
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H.E. Gangchen Rinpoche together with H.H. Kyabje Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche inviting the Buddha's relics to be viewed in Switzerland. Many ambassadors, United Nations representatives and representatives of different schools of Buddhism were there also. March 1, 2003.
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dear all
i just read the posts here. and i think they're fantastic. mitchell, i'm interested in exploring views with u on what it is we can do to help the situation in india, nepal, china n tibet. admin, kudos to u for keeping mitchell's postings. n alexis, congratulations for yr realisations n maturity that yr contribution here be kept to remind u of yr goal. will re-send this post to mitchell n his friend stan (just in case, they've really packed their bags!).
polartortoise
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Here are a couple of pictures of my kind root Guru.
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This is Dorje Shugden via the oracle Choyang Kuten-la who has since passed away. The picture was taken in Trokhang Dechen Chog, the temple built for Dorje Shugden in Gaden Monastery in Mundgod, South India.
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This is Kirti Dadza via the oracle Choyang Kunten-la... also in Trokhang Dechen Chog.
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This is Setrapa via the oracle Choyang Kunten-la on the occasion of offering new garments which he is wearing. The picture was taken in the old temple of Gaden Shartse where the throne was placed on the west wall of the Temple (the direction of Amitabha Buddha.) You can see the current Kuten, Tenzin Choephel, on the right hand side of the image, behind the oracle. He was an assistant at the time. The other monk is Phukhang Geshe Lobsang Dechen who was the main attendant to Choyang Kunten-la for the duration of his life, and who's service was offered by Gaden Shartse.
Ah... the good old days.
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Dorje Shugden @ my home. Tads
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The figures on each sides looks like past incarnations.
But what are the figures in the central line? Also past lives or lineage masters?
TK, you can read the script no?
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Please please please,
could we have the photo in much higher resolution? I can see every one has a name, even his monks and the ferocious ten young fighters. Where does this beautiful tangka come from? Thank you very much for it!
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I don't think it's the lineage of profound view, etc.
It start with Manjushri because manjushri is said the be the first incarnation of DS. Then, naked smeared with ashes, you have indian mahasiddhas, like Virupa (also a past incarnation), etc.
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John - It is precisely because the Dalai Lama believes in such medieval superstition that he is afraid of Dorje Shugden. Believing that a deity would happily kill 5000 innocent people just to rescue one person from prison is frankly, scary. How can anyone live with that and claim they are buddhist?
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Dear Nigel,
John is not a member of the website and this matter was already dealt with months ago in this Forum.
In all religions and even outside religions there are superstitious people.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/skippingclass/885926010/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/skippingclass/885926010/)
Venerable Previous Dromo Geshe Rinpoche: Lama Ngawang Kelsang, Samten Choling Monastery | Darjeeling
From someones Flickr account
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/skippingclass/885465846/in/set-72157601043412757/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/skippingclass/884278781/in/set-72157601043412757/
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Dear everyone,
This is a very clear and high resolution picture of Dorje Shugden.
It includes:
1. Clear names in Tibetan of each of the 32 entourage of King Shugden.
2. Dorje Shugden's previous lives above left and right sides.
3. In the centre, and above is the short form appearance of lineage lamas of Dorje Shugden's practice.
I have made the file large so that everyone may have a print if they wish. You can download.
Largest recommended size A3.
Good luck, May Dorje Shugden's sacred practice prevail.
Mountains
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Directly below Tushita Heaven (maitreya) on this thangka is:
1. The 2nd Buddha Tsongkapa Lobsang Drakpa Pelsangpo
2. Dulzin Trakpa Gyelstsen
3. Mahasiddha Dakpu Dorje Chang Padma Vajra
4. Je Pabongkha Dorje Chang Dechen Nyingpo
5. Kyabje Yongzin Trijang Dorje Chang Lobsang Yeshe Tenzin Gyatso
6. Denma Konsar Kangyur Rinpoche Jetsun Jampa Thubten Gelek Gyatso
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(http://www.dorjeshugden.com/images/clear-resolution.jpg)
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A lovely print that used to be available at Manjushri Centre in England.
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Used to be?
I still see this up in Saraha Center in San Fransisco as their main DS Thangka.
Also,is that Setrap-chen below Dorje Shugden?
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kache marpo :)
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I don't think it's sold there anymore. It's not a Tharpa Image.
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Forum Friends,
Found this wonderful picture of Gaden Shartse's Geshe Tendar reincarnation, Tendar Rinpoche. Geshe Tendar was a great scholar and practitioner of the higher tantras. He was reknowned for his great learning of Sutras/tantras yet specializing in the higher tantras. He was a great master of the most rare rituals as he was a direct disciple of Trijang Rinpoche and Zong Rinpoche.
He was often requested to give inititations of the higher tantras within Gaden and abroad. He often also gave the life empowerment of Dorje Shugden (sogtae) many times.
Dorje Shugden while in trance of Kuten Lama (Gaden's oracle) formally recognized this unmistaken incarnation of Geshe Tendar in Mongolia. Geshe Tendar was one of the gurus of Kuten Lama.
In this picture, the current Kuten Lama (oracle) with the Tendar Rinpoche in Mongolia!!! Beautiful. Behind the young incarnation is a framed photo of his previous incarnation. May Tendar Rinpoche live long and spread Tsongkapa's lineage.
Welcome back Tendar Rinpoche!! Another great lama returned to mature into spreading Dorje Shugden's practice in the future. Young lamas are reincarnating back and being trained like spiritual warriors ready to spread Dorje Shugden's practice when they mature. Quite exciting prospect. I am sure I will see in my lifetime this phenomena. Tibetan govt can never wipe away this lineage.
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Ven Zasep Tulku Rinpoche gives tara and hayagriva initiations. Also gave a series of dharma talks at Dagom Rinpoche's centre in the US. Fantastic!!
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Venerable Choyang Duldzin Kuten Lama at Madhayamaka Centre UK
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Kuten Lama handing out prints of the Thangka painted by Ani-la Kelsang Wangchen that is at Madhayamaka Centre in the uk. I don't know where this was taken, anyone know?
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HH Kyabje Zong Rinpoche
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The picture of Kuten Lama handing out picture of Dorje Shugden to monks is in the Chapel of Dorje Shugden in Gaden Shartse Monastery.
This Chapel was initiated by Kyabje Zong Rinpoche so that the Dorje Shugden pujas were done by all initiates once a month. Also This is where the audiences of Dorje Shugden would take place. He would take trance of Kuten Lama and answer questions for the Monastery and Lay people on a regular basis within this chapel.
Would be wonderful if someone had actual video footage to post up here of Kuten Lama in trance of both Peaceful (Dulzin) and wrathful Dorje Shugden.
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Thanks TK.
Here is a picture of Je Phabongkha that is in a Thangka of the Ganden mahamudra lineage painted by Ani-la Kelsang Wangchen.
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....And Geshe Kelsang and Duldzin, from the same Thangka.
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HH Zong Rinpoche :)
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Ven Zasep Rinpoche giving dharma talk in Dagom Rinpoche's Centre.
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Dear Admin, perhaps you can include him under great masters??
Thanks.
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FOUND THIS PICTURE ON THEIR WEBSITE. They are strong practitioners of Dorje Shugden but now secretly. Tritul Rinpoche sponsors Shar Gaden Monastery together with Jamsing Rinpoche.
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Huge Tsongkapa blesses the crowd.
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Largest Indoor Tsongkapa in the world in Denma Gonsa Rinpoche's Monastery in Kham, Tibet. It stands at 31 meters or 102 ft. Fantastic.
A large Chapel specially dedicated to Dorje Shugden is in the process of being built now as you read this.
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The official Dorje Shugden Oracle (Kameng Dulzin kuten)from Gaden Shartse Monastery now residing in the USA sitting next to the 102 year old Mongolian Guru Deva Rinpoche in Mongolia.
Guru Deva Rinpoche was a very devoted student of Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche. Guru Deva Rinpoche was considered a manifestation of the Wealth form of Dorje Shugen (Ratna Shugden) within the Tibetan communities.
Guru Deva tirelessly promoted the pure teachings of Lama Tsongkapa and was a great devotee of Dorje Shugden. Guru Deva also tirelessly promoted Dorje Shugden and rebuilt many monasteries that originally housed Dorje Shugden in Mongolia.
Sadly, Guru Deva Rinpoche entered into clear light last month May 2009. His assistants and students are awaiting his new incarnation. Extensive pujas are being done to generate the merits for his precious incarnation to appear. We should hear good news in the near future.
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Namo,
May manifestation of Ratna shugen Guru Deva's incarnation come soon among us to safe- guard the precious teaching of Buddha in general and especailly the pure teaching of Je Tsongkhapa. May Gedhen tradition floursih for the well being of this planet.
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Another blessed picture of Zong Rinpoche in England...
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Looks like Zong Rimpoche's trying to raise his X-wing from the swamp!
:D
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Dear Alexis,
Star Wars saga is full of many religious conceptions and traditions. All the episodes are worth to analyze them in many levels. Related to your commentary of "Looks like Zong Rimpoche's trying to raise his X-wing from the swamp!", I have always seen master Yoda as a Buddhist master or guru. I remember when Yoda says to Anakin: "The fear of lost (attachement) is the path to the dark side", "Fear is the path to the dark side, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to sufrfering"... "Attachement leads to jelousy...death is a natural part of life...train yourself in everything you fear to lose".
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Hey Vajra!
Agreed. The buddhist theme is so strong in Star Wars it turned Harrisson Ford into a Buddhist! 8)
By the way, for those interested. The Ewoks speak tibetan! Yes my friends, any tibetan speaker will actually understand what the ewoks are saying! I got some of it!
Here is another one: When Luke raises C-3PO in the air in front of the ewoks, the ewoks start prostrating and chanting, the religious chant they are singing is:
'Sangye cho dang tso kyi chog nam la/
Jangchub bardu dag ni kyap su chi/
Dag gi jin sog gyi pay sonam gyi/
Drola penchir sangye dro par chog/'
Sounds familiar???
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Kabje Dakpo Rinpoche of France giving teachings at Trijang Institute. Dakpo Rinpoche is a very great practitioner of Dorje Shugden and very devoted to HH Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang the great Tutor.
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Two great enlightened masters meet and share light hearted moment. The great Abbot emeritus of Gaden Shartse, Kensur Jampa Yeshe Rinpoche with His Eminence Gangchen Rinpoche of Sera Mey.
These great masters both share the same root teachers Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche and Kyabje Zong Rinpoche.
These are the last great masters to have escaped from Tibet.
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His Holiness Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang seated flanked by His two erudite disciples. Left HH Kyabje Zong Rinpoche and right H.E. Kyabje Zimey Rinpoche.
Zimey Rinpoche is the root guru of the Geshe Thupten Jinpa who is the english translator of the current Dalai Lama.
Geshe Thupten Jinpa has lived over a decade in the very house of Zimey Rinpoche in Gaden Shartse Monastery studying under Zimey Rinpoche.
It is Zimey Rinpoche's kindness that Thupten Jinpa has gained his knowledge. Thupten Jinpa serving as the Dalai Lama's translator is a testimony to the greatness of Kyabje Zimey Rinpoche.
Zimey Rinpoche has already taken rebirth in Mongolia now.
Thupten Jinpa lives in Canada.
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Another Great Student of HH Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang
This picture is of the erudite master/scholar/yogi of Sera Mey Monastery. It is Gyalrong Kensur Rinpoche who resides in Sera Mey. Who is also one of the teachers of the current Kejok Rinpoche (Australia) and Yongyal Rinpoche (USA) and also Pabongka Choktrul Rinpoche (Nepal).
Gyalrong Kensur Rinpoche is very great practitioner of the Vajra Yogini tantras and extremely devoted to Dorje Shugden. He hold great reverance for his root guru HH Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang.
He was the Abbot of Sera Mey chosen by the Dalai lama and was very successful during his tenure as Abbot.
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from: http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/en/archives/approaching_buddhism/teachers/tsenzhab_serkong_rinpoche/portrait_serkong_rinpoche.html (http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/en/archives/approaching_buddhism/teachers/tsenzhab_serkong_rinpoche/portrait_serkong_rinpoche.html)
Rinpoche's Life and Personality
Tsenzhab Serkong Rinpoche was a massive man – a monk with shaved head, red robes, and a deeply lined face that made him look more ancient than his years. His humble, wise manner and gentle humor made him appear like the archetypal sage of fables. This quality did not escape the notice of Westerners who met him. Upon seeing him in Dharamsala, for instance, the makers of the popular film StarWars decided to use him as the model for Yoda, the spiritual guide of the epic. Rinpoche never saw the movie, but would undoubtedly have been amused at the caricature.
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More Zong Rinpoche in the UK.. ;)
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More from Madhayamaka Centre :)
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KYABJE TOMO GESHE RINPOCHE.
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KYABJE DOMO GESHE RINPOCHE NGAWANG KESANG . mardung( mummyfied )at Dungkar Gompa before chinese invasion.
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Taken from Tibetan Paintings: the Jucker Collection (p. 127) by Hugo Kreijger & Ernst Jucker. Email me if you would like the full thangkha image (7mb), to save on website traffic.
(http://www.dharmaprotector.org/images/dorje-shugden-padmasambhava.jpg)
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Taken from Tibetan Paintings: the Jucker Collection (p. 127) by Hugo Kreijger & Ernst Jucker. Email me if you would like the full thangkha image (7mb), to save on website traffic.
Oh, I wanted to post the next days the same :o
Gonsar Rinpoche gave a few days before a copy to me and I hanged it over my bed ... are you from my monastery? I am still not sure about the protector in the middle right from Dorje Shugden. In the description it is said to be Pehar but it looks much more like Dorje Legpa.
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No, I'm a lay practitioner in the US. Do you have the book?
P.S. Does anyone have a picture of Buddha Vairochana in the seven-point meditation posture? None of the images I have found online have him with his hands in the mudra of meditative equipoise. Even a line drawing would be okay.
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Hi emptymountains, Could you post the whole picture but much smaller, to see it complete (and if possible lighter too)?
Guru Rinpoche as usual so handsome. The Protector too, incredibly beautiful face. Is he DSh? I miss the mongoose ...
Trinley Kelsang, I think Kyabje Rinpoche was in Dharamsala, at home, and in the other pic, I don't think it's him, do you have more information (the one with HH Paul VI)?
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It is identified by the author as "Dorje Shug" [sic], dated early 19th century. It is already considerably lighter than the original, so I didn't want to "distort" too much.
P.S. Of particular interest to me also is the refuge tree of Tsongkhapa on page 26 (18th century, i.e. 1700s). I do not see Dorje Shugden pictured there, but I think I do see Vajrayogini. I wonder if that says anything about her place in the Gelugpa tradition at that time.
(http://www.dharmaprotector.org/images/dorje-shugden-small.jpg)
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Hi there,
I had look throught the book online http://www.himalayanart.org/pages/jucker.html and also in Google books - there are several references to Dorje Shug - one from the 17th Century. It would indeed be interesting to see if the Dorje Shug and Dorje Shugden are one and the same. I have no way of verifying however - but perhaps one of you scholars or yogis can :D
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Hi there,
I had look throught the book online [url]http://www.himalayanart.org/pages/jucker.html[/url] and also in Google books - there are several references to Dorje Shug - one from the 17th Century. It would indeed be interesting to see if the Dorje Shug and Dorje Shugden are one and the same. I have no way of verifying however - but perhaps one of you scholars or yogis can :D
Gonsar Rinpoche gave me a copy of this picture as it is showing Dorje Shugden with Guru Padmasambhava over his head surrounded by other Dharmapalas who are typical for Nyingma tradition (probably not Dzogchen because on the top of the thangka is Chenresig and not Samantabhadra but it could refer to some other kind of Nyingma tantra. Of course I am not an expert in such things I just try to compare from my little background knowledge.) So, if this picture refers to Dorje Shug then it's clearly the same as Dorje Shugden.
@emtymountains: We have this book in our bookstore at the present, I will try to borrow it for the afternoon and post the description text later. Gonsar Rinpoche told me that there are some little mistakes inside but I don't know which one. I just wondered about Pehar who seems to me much more similar to Dorje Legpa.
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The other two prints with images of Dorje Shug are: Dhrtarashtra (p93) and Mahashribuddhaheruka (p139). The later dates from 17th century, I thought it was also valuable to find such an early depiction.
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Now here's the description:
Dorje Shug
Central Tibet
Early 19th century
Distemper and gold cloth
The cult of Dorje Shug dates only from the 17th century when he became an important guardian deity of the Geluk order. 100 Interestingly, however, this painting, through the prominent representation of the 8th century founder of the Nyingma order, Padmasambhava, seems instead to be associated with that school of Tibetan Buddhism.
In the painting, the red god is shown in his monk's robes and wearing the sakshu (golden hat) 101
astride his mount, the white snow lion. In his hands he holds a human heart and a chula (dagger with a wave-shaped blade). The ensemble rest on a lotus and are backed by a flaming aureole. As in the previous painting, he is surrounded by a circle of deities, most of whom also have their own lotus thrones. They are (clockwise from 12 o' clock) Padmasambhava, the red, six armed dharmapala (defender of the faith) Hayagriva, the female emanation of the bodhisattva Avalokiteshvara – Sita (White) Tara, a red manifestation of Pehar on a white snow lion riding across a sea of blood, a six-armed manifestation of the dharmapala Mahakala, the dharmapala Shri Devi on her mule, a white six-armed manifestation of Pehar seated on a blue snow lion, the lokapala (guardian king) Vaishravana seated on a blue snow lion and holding a banner and jewel-spitting mongoose, the dharmapala Tsangpa Karpo (White Brahma), Buddha Amitayus, and the dark-blue dharmapala Yamantaka.
At the top centre of the painting is an image of Shadaksharilokeshvara, a white, four-armed manifestation of the bodhisattva Avalokiteshvara. He is flanked by the bodhisattva of wisdom, Manjushri holding a sword and manuscript, and by a blue, wrathful form of the bodhisattva Vajrapani. At the bottom left of the painting is the rarely depicted guardian deity Namkha Barzin riding a horse and holding a lance and the lead of a trussed-up enemy of the Buddhist Law. In the opposite corner is the four-armed guardian Rahula with his half serpent body. Between both deities is the mountain goddess Yuchashogchikma riding a deer and recognisable by her attributes the mirror and arrow. She is surrounded by four assistants, all on horses riding amidst clouds. Flanking this small scene are several large kapala (skull cups) and conches filled with blood or human organs, which represent the five senses. In addition there is a chakra (wheel). The entire scene is set in a landscape of green, almost rolling hills with a few clouds at their peaks. The sky above is filled with darker cloud formations framing each of the deities in the upper third of the painting.
Although rather provincial in style, this painting has a lot of charm and displays a wealth of interesting iconographic detail. The beginning of the 19th century seems probable for its execution.
100 The origins and iconography of the deity are explained at length in Nebesky-Wojkowitz 1975, pp. 134-136
101 Nebesky-Wojkowitz, 1975, p.11
I think it should be clear also from the description that Dorje Shug and Dorje Shugden are the same. To be 100 % sure one could check Nebesky-Wojkowitz.
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@emptymountains: What a tangka, incredible! Thank you for posting it.
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Hi dear Trinley Kelsang! Such auspicious day to post this extraordinary image of the holy Protector. Jamgön Tsongkapa on top of the head, and his right hand brandishing Mañjushri´s sword says a lot about the nature of this wrathful holy one. Not to mention more secret nature that seems to manifest in other iconographic traits, but I don't want to go there, it's too sacred.
Your work is invaluable, a true treasury of Dharma. Who are you, Trinley Kelsang, whose precious emanation are you? Not that you are going to say ...
Thank you for this beautiful image.
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Hello Trinley
I was wondering. The great picture of Wrathful Dorje Shugden has him as the principle Deity with the usual four other forms surrounding him. Is the principle the same as Karma Shugden(he looks the same) in the sense of being the purified aggregate of compositional factors(amoghasiddhi) or is he still the aggregate of consciousness(akshobya)?
Thanks
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Holy Dulzin taking trance into the previous famous Oracle of Gaden Dulzin Choyang Kuten.
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Beautiful statues of our Lineage Lamas in Shar Gaden Monastery in South India.
These monks are brave and committed. Our Lineage will become a strong powerful school/lineage of Buddhism in the future due to the bravery of these monks.
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Zava Damdin Rinpoche who spreads the Dorje Shugden practice in Mongolia. May he live long! And have great success!
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That's a beautiful statue of Dorje Shugden in Mongolia. It looks similar to the one of Indian origin in the Temple at Manjushri Centre in England, except he appears to have eyes on his arms - am I seeing that correctly? I've never come across this iconography on a Dorje Shugden statue before.
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Here's another beautiful thangka of the Extremely Wrathful Dorje Shugden with eyes on his arms. And the back of his hands.
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His Eminence Gonsar Tulku Rinpoche making offerings to Dorje Shugden in full trance of the Oracle from Simla.
This was in Rabten Choling Centre in Switzerland.
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Beautiful pictures here and informative captions too. Thank you to all those who contributed. Please keep them coming! ;D
Kate
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more pictures...
(1) Very rare and unusual thangka of 4-arm Kalarupa
(2) Sera oracle taking trance of Setrap
(3) His Eminece Gangchen Rinpoche with Nepal President
(4) Setrap Soongkor (protection wheel)
(5) Shambhala is one of the places which Dorje Shugden resides
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His Holiness Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche with His Eminence Kyabje Dagom Dorje Chang.
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1.The grand Statue of Tsongkapa in Dagom Ladrang (House) in Kathmandu, Nepal.
2. His Holiness the Current Kyabje Pabongka Choktrul Rinpoche. May he openly turn the wheel of dharma soon.
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His Eminence the Fully Attained Mahasiddha/Yogi/Scholar Kyabje Dagom Dorje Chang who many incarnations ago meditated upon Yamantaka and merged with Yamantaka.
Dagom Rinpoche is no different than Yamantaka. How fortunate to gaze upon this Yamantaka in human form.
May we never be seperated from Kyabje Dagom Dorje Chang in this and future lives.
TK
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His Eminence Zasep Rinpoche given teachings at Dagom Rinpoche's Centre in USA.
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A very rare thangka of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen.
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H.E. Kyabje Denma Gonsa Rinpoche and His Beautiful Monastery in Tibet.
1. The beautiful Main Prayer Hall of of Denma Gonsa Rinpoche's Monastery in Tibet. This Chapel houses a huge 116ft statue of Tsongkapa. Next to this chapel a huge Dorje shugden Chapel is in the process of finishing.
2. Huge image of Tsongkapa within Denma Gonsa Rinpoche's Monastery
3. Head of the Tsongkapa image before completion.
4. Denma Gonsa Monastery from a distance.
5. Kyabje Denma Gonsa Rinpoche himself.
6. Huge 6 meter Dorje Shugden statue to be housed in Denma Gonsa Monastery next to the Main Tsongkapa Prayer Hall.
Dorje Shugden's practice growing stronger in Tibet. One of the reasons is the hard work, dedication, and fortitude of this great Denma Gonsa Rinpoche. He has recently passed away. Before passing, he told his main assistant Ven Tashi, that when his incarnation comes, this young boy will be able to recite from memory, the complete Root Tantra of Guhyasamaja without looking at the text or studying beforehand. Only enthrone this young boy as his incarnation. No other child should be accepted.
Denma Gonsa Rinpoche is an accomplished master and realized being of the Guhyasamaja Tantric cycle.
May his glorious incarnation return soon.
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Centre: Shugden Gyenze
left bottom: 4 faced Mahakala
bottom centre: Pelden Hlamo
right bottom: Setrap-Chen
tk
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Sacred Heruka thangka with Gyenze Shugden at the right bottom.
Also below Heruka is 4 faced Mahakala, Lord/Lady of Cementary, Setrap, Pelden Hlamo.
Beautiful!
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Liberated Mother Vajra Yogini flying within Dharmadhatu seeking to grant siddhis for those who are diligent.
Can download.
Tk
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This is Zong Ladrang's (house) main altar in Gaden. The central Silver stupa contains the cremated remains of the previous Zong Rinpoche. It is a very sacred place to make offerings. Many relics of the previous Zong Rinpoche is contained inside.
TK
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A beautiful Thangka of HH Kyabje Zong Rinpoche. From his heart emanates Yidam Vajra Yogini to the left and emanating to the right is Dorje Shugden.
A wonderful Thangka to download to present as a gift or put on your own altar.
TK
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Wow.. this last thangka is spectacular!! Actually so are all the rest - I can't get over the quality of these images. Thank you for sharing them.
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1. Shugden Wangtse
2. Main Protector of King of Dharma Tsongkhapa
3. King Dorje Shugden
4. Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen
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I like to have high quality downloads of sacred images for everyone because in some places it is not easy to obtain.
I wish everyone peace, harmony, attainments and liberation.
The time for the main protector of the Gaden Lineage to arise as a World Peace Protector for the benefit of many.
If we wish many world difficulties to be solved, reliance on Dorje Shugden will definitely help.
If Tibet situation wants a resolution, they must solicit Dorje Shugden. His time has come. Tibetan Govt in exile must not be stubborn already as everything they have done have not bore results. Time is running out.
Wake up and take refuge in Dorje Shugden who is Lama, Yidam and Protector all in one.
tk
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Sacred Headless Vajra Yogini who cuts the ego and Yet thrives!
Please download and enshrine this most secret form of Vajra Yogini.
tk
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1st thangka Antique Sacred Solitary Yamantaka with Dorje Shugden and Nechung Pehar Gyelpo together at the bottom.
2nd Yamantaka is with Dorje Shugden at right bottom.
Both are very old and beautiful thangkas for the practitioner to download.
Good luck.
tk
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Dear devotees of Buddha, Tsongkapa and Dorje Shugden,
I will upload more very nice downloadable pictures of various aspects of Enlightenment soon.
Good wishes,
TK
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The pictures are a great resource for all practitioners.
Thank you and please post more more more!
Tenzin
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The Monastery of Denma Gonsa Rinpoche in Tibet that contains a 102ft Jamgon Tsongkapa statue as it's main object on the shrine. Fantastic!!!
Wow! What a beautiful monastery. Wouldn't it be nice if there's a Tibetan monastery built on a mountain slope in every country and of course, sit the ever towering statue of the Lord Tsongkhapa. That way the whole world would be protected and blessed!
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1. HH Kyabje Zong Rinpoche with his close disciple Gangchen Rinpoche the Healer.
2. Rare Picture of HH Kyabje Zong Rinpoche taken in Tibet when Zong Rinpoche was the Abbot of Gaden Shartse Monastery
3. HH Panchen Rinpoche with H.E. Gangchen Rinpoche.
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more pictures for you guys ;)
dear admin, can you pls kindly put these pictures onto the front page if your deem suitable, thanks!
tx
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Thank you TK and everyone for putting up so many rare and meaningful pictures with clear explanation. thank you!
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TK: Thanks for the recent images. In each, a practitioner of dorje shugden meets a notable world figure eg the POPE etc and that is subtly promoting him. Great idea.
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A Thangkha from our Dharma Centre
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A lovely drawing of Phabongkha,Trijang and Kelsang Gyatso
Lama Gangchen when he visited our centre in Bath to see Kuten Lama
Kuten Lama during the Tea break in Lamachopa
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Lord Dorje Shugden, a protector for our time
(Picture from commons.wikimedia.com)
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Lord Dorje Shugden manifesting in a peaceful form
(Picture from commons.wikimedia.org)
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Lord Shugden in an increasing form
(picture from commons.wikimedia.org)
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Dorje Shugden in a controlling form
(picture from commons.wikimedia.org)
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Lord Dorje Shugden in a wrathful form - my favourite!
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Venerable Geshe Tsultrim Gyeltsen
(http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww247/Tenzin13/img_6537a.jpg)
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A beautiful picture of Duldzin. The full Thangkha includes Buddha Shakyamuni, Tara and Avalokiteshvara.
http://www.tharpa.com/uk/art-Kadampa.Guru.Deities-2115.html
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Hi Mohani
Lovely Thangka there... thanks for sharing... :)
thanks for the link too...
love
Kate
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Decades ago Gaden Jangtse Serkong Tritul Rinpoche who resides in Taiwan recognized a Jamseng Rinpoche (Taiwanese) and had him enthroned from Gaden Jangtse Monastery. Since then, Jamseng Rinpoche has been doing quite alot of work, travelling, meeting dignitaries, teaching, opening centres, etc.
Since then Jamseng Rinpoche did not go to Gaden Jangtse to swear against Dorje Shugden as he opted out and joined Shar Gaden Monastery. Shar Gaden is being partially supported by both Serkong Tritul Rinpoche and Jamseng Rinpoche financially.
Serkong Tritul invited Drepung Loseling Monastery's Denma Locho Rinpoche to Taiwan to turn the wheel of dharma and pass some important lineages. Here is a picture of Denma Locho Rinpoche holding affectionately Jamseng Rinpoche's hand.
Yes for sure Jamseng Rinpoche/Serkong Tritul Rinpoche practices Dorje Shugden and often does Dorje Shugden fire pujas. They have just gone low key to avoid more talk while they induct members to their fast growing organization. I know of someone who recently obtained a nice Dorje Shugden statue made of crystal from their centre.
tk
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It is a true blessing to feast my eyes on all these amazing and educational pictures. All the pictures are beautiful, especially those of the powerful Dharma Protector, Dorje Shugden. It is true that many people, like myself, who cannot get our hands on the "real" thing so we should be very grateful for what is available for us through technology and from devoted individuals who have posted up the pictures. THANK YOU! ;D
For the rest of us, download, print and have the pictures with you!
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Decades ago Gaden Jangtse Serkong Tritul Rinpoche who resides in Taiwan recognized a Jamseng Rinpoche (Taiwanese) and had him enthroned from Gaden Jangtse Monastery. Since then, Jamseng Rinpoche has been doing quite alot of work, travelling, meeting dignitaries, teaching, opening centres, etc.
Since then Jamseng Rinpoche did not go to Gaden Jangtse to swear against Dorje Shugden as he opted out and joined Shar Gaden Monastery. Shar Gaden is being partially supported by both Serkong Tritul Rinpoche and Jamseng Rinpoche financially.
Serkong Tritul invited Drepung Loseling Monastery's Denma Locho Rinpoche to Taiwan to turn the wheel of dharma and pass some important lineages. Here is a picture of Denma Locho Rinpoche holding affectionately Jamseng Rinpoche's hand.
Yes for sure Jamseng Rinpoche/Serkong Tritul Rinpoche practices Dorje Shugden and often does Dorje Shugden fire pujas. They have just gone low key to avoid more talk while they induct members to their fast growing organization. I know of someone who recently obtained a nice Dorje Shugden statue made of crystal from their centre.
tk
I really appreciate what HE Serkong Tritul Rinpoche and Jamseng Rinpoche is doing for Shar Gaden. Without people like them who are the anchors of the monastery and the entire cause of Dorje Shugden's sacred revival, many sentient beings will perish in the hands of their own negative Karma.
I believe in the society here and now, what really matters is that everyone is educated to be able to absorb some form of Dharma into their lives so that it would be a better place for everyone to abide in. Now it is time for us within our own personal practices make an effort to do something to contribute towards this Shugden cause.
This website and forum for example has benefitted myself and many whom have come here. What we can do from now on is to spread the word around that others may gain the same benefits too.
thanks admin! keep up the good work!
cheers,
HN
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Thank you admin for the recent developments on the site... neat developments going on these past few days. I especially like the new gallery images taken from this forum thread
http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?cat=7
Keep up the good work!
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Dear admin,
Alot more pictures of Dorje Shugden lamas has been added to the Great Masters section of this site. Thank you. It is indeed very encouraging.
It shows that these lamas will spread Shugden far and wider.
SEE: http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?page_id=37
TK
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Dear everyone,
This is a very clear and high resolution picture of Dorje Shugden.
It includes:
1. Clear names in Tibetan of each of the 32 entourage of King Shugden.
2. Dorje Shugden's previous lives above left and right sides.
3. In the centre, and above is the short form appearance of lineage lamas of Dorje Shugden's practice.
I have made the file large so that everyone may have a print if they wish. You can download.
Largest recommended size A3.
Good luck, May Dorje Shugden's sacred practice prevail.
Mountains
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Directly below Tushita Heaven (maitreya) on this thangka is:
1. The 2nd Buddha Tsongkapa Lobsang Drakpa Pelsangpo
2. Dulzin Trakpa Gyelstsen
3. Mahasiddha Dakpu Dorje Chang Padma Vajra
4. Je Pabongkha Dorje Chang Dechen Nyingpo
5. Kyabje Yongzin Trijang Dorje Chang Lobsang Yeshe Tenzin Gyatso
6. Denma Konsar Kangyur Rinpoche Jetsun Jampa Thubten Gelek Gyatso
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([url]http://www.dorjeshugden.com/images/clear-resolution.jpg[/url])
Hi,
I like to ask,
I noticed that from the mandala on the bottom right in the row of the ten youthful and wrathful assistants, the last 3 deities seem to have breasts. Are they female in nature? I always have in mind that all the assistants are male.
Please help me verify.
Thanks
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Some more of Venerable Kuten Lama.. ;)
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Found these while looking for images of Kache Marpo.
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Dear everyone,
Here are some nice Torgya Ritual pictures I'd like to share with everyone ... Enjoy!
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More pictures of Torgya Ritual ...
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And some more pictures ...
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And here are some more ;)
Enjoy!!!
Love,
D-snowlion :-*
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Dear dsnowlion,
Thank you for all the great pictures of the torgya ritual at Shar Gaden Monastery. Nice picture of the abbot and tormas.
Thanks for all the effort.
TK
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I join TK in the expression of gratitude. Such great pictures.
Also, such great incredible thing that the Venerable monks were able to regroup in a pure, armonious Sangha.
Thank you!
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Just finished painting.
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Just finished painting.
Wow. That's very powerful and beautiful. :)
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How wonderful this picture is ! :)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_WWcHVOJE2mI/TAf1IUlXQ1I/AAAAAAAAAEk/avjj0lOeDJU/s1600/IMG_3138.JPG)
Ven Trijangs photo on the throne and Ven Kelsang gyatso's photo on the right of him ! :)
Shar gaden is indeed an auspcious place may we all have close ties with these Holy beings ! ;D
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Wow, wow wowwwwww!!! Here got so many high resolution of Dorje Shugden picture. GOOD GOOD GOOD!!! i'm so really very excited to see every single pictures (enjoy to save it too)!!! Thank you whoever posted/added their collection here. Really appreciate and rejoice....
Thank you!
DD
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These are the personal thangkas of Dorje Shugden and Kache Marpo of His Eminence the previous Kyabje Dagom Rinpoche.
TK
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This is my personal Shrine to Dorje Shugden. I like the offering of red light to Him as it makes the shrine even more beautiful.
TK
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Rejoicing that Dagom Rinpoche's incarnation is back! Here's a picture of Ra Lotsawa to share with all
Source : http://www.vajrabhairava.com
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From Kham
I like the picture, very very attractive!!!! Thank you for post out.
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(http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww247/Tenzin13/100_0839.jpg)
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Your Holiness The Dalai Lama,
How can anything Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche taught be wrong or any part be mistaken? That would compromise the blessings of the lineal lamas which includes Yourself.
With such a reincarnation lineage stemming back to the time of the Sage Shakyamuni Himself and being so learned, how can this master Trijang Rinpoche be wrong?
Please lift the ban. Please give people the choice to practice what they wish according to their lama's practices.
You have said countless times, your previous incarnations propititated Nechung so hence, you must continue in the tradition of your predecessors. If that is the case many Lamas have practiced Dorje Shugden in their previous incarnations, so let them have the right and freedom to continue with their predecessors like yourself.
Just like you have the freedom to bestow Nechung on your disciples, so should the many other lamas bestow Dorje Shugden on their disciples.
You are One, they are many, please in your great compassion and with folded hands I implore you to lift the ban and let everything become as it was before your great passing which I do not wish.
Whatever You have said or done, I have the deepest faith and respect for You even till now. I with tears in my eyes IMPLORE AND BEG You to lift the ban. Let me have the freedom to practice without discrimination what my saintly lamas have bestowed upon me and millions of others.
Prostrating to You,
TK
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Gangchen Tulku Rinpoche, painted as a Mahasiddha
The word Mahasiddha comes from "maha" = great and "siddha" = magical perfection, magical power. So a Mahasiddha is a master of great magical perfections, a master of tantra. The Vajrayana Buddhism (=tantric or great vehicle) speaks of a group of 84 famous mahasiddhas, highly developed Indian yogis and yoginis of all social classes who lived between 400 AD to 1200 AD, and who gave most major impulses for the various Tibetan traditions. There are many crazy and eccentric stories about those famous 84. In general any follower of the Vajrayana (Tantrayana) can become a mahasiddha. Some in a more hidden and secret way, others in a more spectacular way.
In the below painting Gangchen Tulku is shown in the form ofa Indian mahasiddha. In his right hand he holds the damaru (scull drum), envoking the dakinis (= enlightened and powerful female witches). In his left he holds the trishula (trident), a male symbol of mastering illusions. He wears a tiger skin, a chain of skulls around his neck and a scull, filled with blood in his other hand. The open sitting posture symbolizes that he is willing to act, using his perfections for the sake of all sentient beings. Below one can see a wrathful vajra (= cepter) and several dakinis and goddesses. Above him his guru HH Trijang Dorjechang as a Mahasiddha (Tilopa?). Every tiny detail of those paintings have a very profound meaning, which could fill a complete website :-)
Extracted from: http://www.iol.ie/~taeger/gangchen/gangmaha.html
TK
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The spirit Nechung bound by Padmasambhava. A statue of him in a chapel in dharamsala where his worship is encouraged.
TK
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(http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww247/Tenzin13/zongrinpocheJPG2.jpg)
Kyabje Zong Rinpoche
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A picture that my friend lent me. There were many pictures of Kuten lama around when he came to our centres.
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The former Geshe Tendar Rinpoche
(http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww247/Tenzin13/GesheTendar.jpg)
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Here is a picture that was given to me by Tendar Tulku Rinpoche. His smile melts my heart.
(http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww247/Tenzin13/GesheTendar2.jpg)
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definite resemblance!
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Another Tulku incarnating to do the job of bringing dharma to many. Shar Gaden must be very happy to have this tulku back in their fold to be prepared to do work in the future.
:)
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A picture paints a thousand words. The pictures here are precious! I have not seen an image of Mongolian protector Namkha Barzin until now. The high res thangka of Lama Tsongkapa and two sons is simply exquisite and the monasteries with huge Lord Tsongkapa statues are awe inspiring.
May every country eventually have one to stabilize and bestow world peace to all.
I have downloaded them all, thank you.
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Lord Dorje Shugden, a protector for our time
(Picture from commons.wikimedia.com)
Thank you for posting such fabulous photo of Dorje Shugden,
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Gurudiva Rinpoche :-*
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Gurudiva Rinpoche :-*
Should be Guru Deva.
Deva means heaven or god
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i know :'(
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some more lineage masters pictures enjoy!
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Lama Gangchen, Lama Michel and Trijang Rinpoche.
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Got this picture from Ganden Nyengyu's facebook (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001161036854)
Incidentally, today, Ganden Nyengyu posted the ds.com illustrated story and says, "Please check this wonderful story on origin of Dharmapala Shri Dorje Shugden."
Anyway, here's a picture of Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang, Kyabje Ling Dorje Chang and HH Dalai Lama - and the caption says "many of people in this picture practice Dorje Shugden."
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In the Two Examination Tantra, Buddha Vajradhara prophesies:
In degenerate times, when the practice of Buddhadharma is in decline, I shall manifest as a Spiritual Guide. You should understand that I am that Spiritual Guide and you should pay due respect...I shall appear as an ordinary being, and I shall come in many forms.
Source: Kelsang Oden's facebook
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Rock painting of Shugden in Kham. It's beautiful. We need to make more!!
TK
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(http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww247/Tenzin13/25286_1243263878598_1139385412_30589043_5824302_n.jpg)
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(http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww247/Tenzin13/052.jpg)
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Fantastic! Two Great forces joining together.
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His Holiness Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang.
Below left Dorje Shugden and right Dorje Setrap are his protectors.
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I saw a picture of this oracle called "Great King Palung Gyalchen Dorje Shugden" (found it on facebook here http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1704332420457&set=a.1653120020179.88681.1602394719) - does anyone know anything about him? I tried to search online for more info but couldn't find anything.
Cheers!
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Source of picture and description from :
When the Sky Fell to Earth - Crackdown on Buddhism in Tibet
http://www.savetibet.de/fileadmin/user_upload/content/berichte/112004ReligionReport.pdf (http://www.savetibet.de/fileadmin/user_upload/content/berichte/112004ReligionReport.pdf)
Soon after the 1959 exodus of Tibetans, the Dalai Lama convened a meeting of the major Tibetan Buddhist teachers at his residence of Swag Ashram near Dharamsala.
This 1961 photo shows heads of the main schools of Tibetan Buddhism who fled to exile, as well as many other teaching lineage holders. If these individuals, who represent the living tradition of Tibetan Buddhism, had not fled to exile, they would likely have been imprisoned and suffered public humiliation, as endured by the likes of the 10th Panchen Lama and Mindroling Chung Rinpoche, both who remained in Tibet.
This meeting was part of the first steps the Dalai Lama took at divesting political power from the Gelug school and aristocratic families and the democratization of the Tibetan government in exile.
The front row of the photo [left to right] is Kyabje Dudjom Rinpoche, head of the Nyingma school; the 16th Gyawla Karmapa, head of the Karma Kagyu school; Kyabje Sakya Trinzin, head of the Sakya school, Tenzin Gyatso, the 14th Dalai Lama; Yong Dzin Ling Rinpoche, the senior tutor of the Dalai Lama and future head of the Gelug school; Trijiang Rinpoche, junior tutor to the Dalai Lama; and Bhakula Rinpoche of Ladakh, former minister in the Indian parliament and ambassador to Mongolia.
The second row includes Chogye Trichen Rinpoche, Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche, Druk Tuktse Rinpoche, Drayap Kyapgon Rinpoche and Serkyong Rinpoche. Many other religious luminaries and abbots of significant monasteries in Tibet, as well as the Tibetan government in exile cabinet are also pictured.
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I took these photos off a Facebook friend. He named the album Tatse Dupcho 2011, and it looks like a puja held in Shar Gaden. Does anyone know what puja this is? I Google-d it, but nothing showed up.....
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Yamantake puja. I have some pictures too.
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I just found these... WOW!! If I'm not mistaken, it was those at Shar Gaden Monastery that made these wallpapers??
I like the red one the most! Will use it as my wallpaper!
Shar Gaden is getting really savvy! Haha :)
https://picasaweb.google.com/speakingthetruth100/TrijangRinpocheWallpaper#
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Thank you Jessicajameson for the nice pictures and wonderful idea about having them as wallpapers. I will follow suit. Great pictures in the other posts too. I love the ones on the monasteries, so serene and beautiful...
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Beautiful. Favourite is the purple one...would be nice if they did a purple background one, with the signature in white.
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Dorje Shugden in the Shar Gaden Dharmapala chapel
(http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww247/Tenzin13/100_2871.jpg)
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Found this nice picture of HH Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche, which was taken on 24 December 2006. The caption for the picture is the spiritual head of Shar Gaden, South India.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/63396000@N07/5767339957/
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Thank you, jessicajameson, for the nice pictures. I will use the purple one as my wall paper too ;)
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Serpom Monastery Debate Examination 2011
https://picasaweb.google.com/serpommonastery.org/AnnualDebateExamination2011# (https://picasaweb.google.com/serpommonastery.org/AnnualDebateExamination2011#)
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I saw a beautiful thangka while surfing online, thought I share with everyone. It is still available at US$195 from http://new.exoticindiaart.com/product/TT26/
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I saw these 2 photos of Gangchen Rinpoche on Facebook and thought that it'd be nice to share it! I hope that it's not already in this thread.
I really like these 2 photos of Gangchen Rinpoche. I have 3 questions though:
1) Why does Gangchen Rinpoche's wear red robes with gold patterns?
2) What is that "hair"-like thing that Trijang Rinpoche is wearing (in the photo in the page before this) meant to symbolize?
3) What's the point of wearing the full tantric outfit? I understand that if an oracle is going to take trance it's good to wear an oracle outfit as you're inviting an enlightened being into the person - but what's the point for, say, Gangchen Rinpoche to be wearing all those things in the 2nd photo?
(I ask in no disrespect to anything or anyone).
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Here's a photo gallery of Dorje Shugden. I noticed many if not all of the pictures are already on this great website also. But just sharing this link here in case there are a few which we may not have yet... What a great blessing just to see holy images of our Protector.
http://dorjeshugdenimagelibrary.wordpress.com/photo-gallery/ (http://dorjeshugdenimagelibrary.wordpress.com/photo-gallery/)
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I saw these 2 photos of Gangchen Rinpoche on Facebook and thought that it'd be nice to share it! I hope that it's not already in this thread.
I really like these 2 photos of Gangchen Rinpoche. I have 3 questions though:
1) Why does Gangchen Rinpoche's wear red robes with gold patterns?
2) What is that "hair"-like thing that Trijang Rinpoche is wearing (in the photo in the page before this) meant to symbolize?
3) What's the point of wearing the full tantric outfit? I understand that if an oracle is going to take trance it's good to wear an oracle outfit as you're inviting an enlightened being into the person - but what's the point for, say, Gangchen Rinpoche to be wearing all those things in the 2nd photo?
(I ask in no disrespect to anything or anyone).
In answer to your questions
1. Not sure, but it looks like its a pretty formal setting as Rinpoche is on the throne, possibly real gold inlay, whomever made these robes for Rinpoche would have wanted to make their offering even more special as its to their Lama. Depending on situations Lama's will choose what robes to wear.
2. I don't know Tantra and its symbolism, all i know is that in Tantra. you practice to become one with your deity, hence you become the "Deity". It may look over the top to outsiders but it is an offering to a Buddha so must be of highest quality.
Looks pretty heavy, but very grand, great pic thanks for the post!
Those who know Tantra, can they say, or are they allowed to say who by the mudra etc...?
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This is Kirti Dadza via the oracle Choyang Kunten-la... also in Trokhang Dechen Chog.
Hi, i am wondering who is Kirti Dadza? Which emanation of Shudgen is he?
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What an awesome photo of the SUPER TRIO LAMAS. It should be reproduced and place on our altars!
Fanstastic Powerhouses of Lord Tsongkapa's blazing dharma. Left to right: H.H. Kyabje Zong Rinpoche, H.H. Yongzin Trijang Dorje Chang, H.H. Kyabje Zemey Rinpoche. Three great power house lamas from Gaden Shartse Monastery who are responsible for passing on the lineage to so many young tulkus, Geshes and teachers. It is their kindness that today we have the pure Gelugpa Lineage alive, strong and flourishing. All Gelugpa lamas, tulkus, geshes, teachers and masters somehow will trace their lineage back directly or indirectly to these three great sublime beings. All great Gelugpa teachers including H.H. the Dalai Lama will have either one of these lamas as their lineage lamas that they supplicate daily.
Viewing their picture is immensely inspiring.
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Fantastic picture! I love it! Great Lamas doing puja together...
HE Gangchen Lama, the spiritual head & mentor of International Gangchen Peace Foundation, HE Geshe Thupten Thinley, Ven abbot of Rabten Choeling,Geshe L. Phende, Ven abbot of Shar Gaden, Geshe Kunchok Gyaltsen, General Secretary of the Dorje Shugden Society Delhi, Ven Lama Dhonsang, Chant-master of Rabten Choeling & Senior attendant of Geshe T. Thinley.
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The 2 days Annual Kangso Puja was just conducted at Shar Gaden last week (28th & 29th June), this included the dharma protectors; MahaKala, DharmaRaja, Shridevi, Vaishravana, Setrap, Shugden and Khache Marpo, their mantras are stressed enhanced with dharmic musical instruments; trumpets, drums, cymbals, long blow-horns etc.
I love the fantastic tormas on the altar!
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I stumbled upon this very nice picture of a Dorje Shugden tangka from kadampa organisation. I was wondering if anyone has a clear upright picture of it in high resolution so I see the details of every part. I was hoping I could print it out for my altar.
It really does look unique.
If anyone have a good clear picture of this tangka, can you kindly share with us all here? I'm sure everyone will so appreciate it :)
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Dear dsilluvu
That's a nice picture. Which kadampa organisation is that? The NKT or Serkong Tritul Rinpoche's organisation? Maybe you can write to the organisation and ask them? Then you can post up the actual picture here for us all to enjoy too.
Cheers!
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Dear dsilluvu
That's a nice picture. Which kadampa organisation is that? The NKT or Serkong Tritul Rinpoche's organisation? Maybe you can write to the organisation and ask them? Then you can post up the actual picture here for us all to enjoy too.
Cheers!
Dear dsiluvu, YES PLEASE try as requested by WisdomBeing. The colour is so rich and it is the complete mandala of Dorje Shugden!
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I log in to the Photo Gallery of Dorje shugden.....I m so happy to see so many photo of Dorje Shugden, is awesome ;D. Thank you DS Friend for yr sharing, but I noticed, there have so many differend images of DS.....i was wondering now which photo i want to print it out and put in to my altars :)
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:D So many nice and high resolution pictures , thanks all !
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Hey Vajra!
Agreed. The buddhist theme is so strong in Star Wars it turned Harrisson Ford into a Buddhist! 8)
By the way, for those interested. The Ewoks speak tibetan! Yes my friends, any tibetan speaker will actually understand what the ewoks are saying! I got some of it!
Here is another one: When Luke raises C-3PO in the air in front of the ewoks, the ewoks start prostrating and chanting, the religious chant they are singing is:
'Sangye cho dang tso kyi chog nam la/
Jangchub bardu dag ni kyap su chi/
Dag gi jin sog gyi pay sonam gyi/
Drola penchir sangye dro par chog/'
Sounds familiar???
The Ewoks do speak tibetan , i found it on youtube , check out this link
Time : 0.16 - Jangchub bardu dag ni kyap su chi/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmdEg3T8IOM&feature=related
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Panchen Lama and 101st Gaden Trisur Jetsun Lungrik Namgyal Rinpoche
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Thank you for posting and sharing the beautiful picture. I particularly like the first one on the top of this e mail.
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Thanks for the nice photos!
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The Monastery of Denma Gonsa Rinpoche in Tibet that contains a 102ft Jamgon Tsongkapa statue as it's main object on the shrine. Fantastic!!!
Amazing how they can build such a huge temple and Tsongkapa statue in the remote regions of Tibet. It's so difficult to deal with contractors. Furthermore, the logistics to mobilize the building materials. Simply amazing. Wow! The person in charge must have very strong guru devotion in order to raise the funds and build this enormous monastery. In addition, I believe that through Dorje Shugden's blessings, this monastery could manifest. So many people will be benefitted from this project. Would love to visit this monastery one day!
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Geshe Tsultrim Gyaltsen. :)
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:)thanks to all for the sharing of nice pics!
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Here is a link to some nice pictures of Trode Khangsar, the Dorje Shugden chapel in Lhasa. Some great images!!!!
http://www.himalayanart.org/search/set.cfm?setID=2469 (http://www.himalayanart.org/search/set.cfm?setID=2469)
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TQ TQ for these breathtaking pictures!! We get blessing by just looking at those holy images!
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The Monastery of Denma Gonsa Rinpoche in Tibet that contains a 102ft Jamgon Tsongkapa statue as it's main object on the shrine. Fantastic!!!
Thank you for sharing the pic. Such a beautiful monastery! Does anyone know where exacty it is and how to get there? Would love to visit.
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by artist Jonathan Nadeau
I've never seen Dorje Shugden painted like this. His face is extremely wrathful. Why does he have fangs? Is it iconographically correct?
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Thank you, Admin, for such a bountiful cache of highly sought after pictures. It means a lot to me, now I can have access to all these. Wonderful work. Please keep them coming :)
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Man what a rare photo indeed... Just browsing this post has a treasure of images. Thanks for this one Losang_Tenpa
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How wonderful this picture is ! :)
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Ven Trijangs photo on the throne and Ven Kelsang gyatso's photo on the right of him ! :)
Shar gaden is indeed an auspcious place may we all have close ties with these Holy beings ! ;D
i just noticed this picture. So Geshe Kelsang Gyatso's picture is on the altar at Shar Gaden? Is Geshe Kelsang Gyatso part of Shar Gaden? I had thought that he had split away from the Gelugpa tradition to form his New Kadampa Tradition. I know that Shar Gaden has also split away from the main Gelugpa tradition, but i always thought that Shar Gaden was still Gelugpa. On the other hand, I didn't think of NKT as Gelugpa. Can anyone share what is Geshe Kelsang Gyatso’s role at Shar Gaden? Thanks.
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The Monastery of Denma Gonsa Rinpoche in Tibet that contains a 102ft Jamgon Tsongkapa statue as it's main object on the shrine. Fantastic!!!
Wow! Thanks for the nice photo :) Because of Dorje Shugden blessing.This beautiful and huge Monastery can be build in Tibet.....so many people will be benefitted from this Monastery.Would love to visit one day but would like to know how to get there?
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Dear Wisdom Being,
Geshe Kelsang is not part of Shar Gaden. He has given them alot of help, advice and sponsorship, and stood up for the monks. The monks in india at Shar Gaden and Ser-pom have great respect for him. The Venerable abbot of Shar Gaden has known Geshe Kelsang for many many years.
The NKT is not part of the Gelugpa establishment but is Gelugpa, as it follows the pure lineage of Je Tsongkhapa.
Kind regards,
GR
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Dear Wisdom Being
In Geshe Kelsangs words:
http://www.dharmaprotector.org/nkt-gelug.html (http://www.dharmaprotector.org/nkt-gelug.html)
GR
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I must thank the team for putting up such a huge amount of pictures. I have found a treasure here. Every single picture are amazing. I am downloading all. Thank You!
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I wish that will more & more bigger Lama Tsongkhapa & Dorje Shugden statue around the world. Can bless all people whose pray & see .
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by artist Jonathan Nadeau
this painting is really wrathful, i feel a little scary. That is different what we see normally! May i know why? And is it we can paint with our imagination?
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Re-reading some of my former post in this section, I had the uncontrollable urge to make some of them disapear.
But since they show my actual level of spiritual development (such as having no patience) I'll keep them there as a reminder.
This is a drawing by Kyabje Dagom Dorjechang's own h
and in his last few days. When translating the Kangso in French, we were not sure about how to translate the noose (Lasso, knot, etc.), so we requested Rimpoche for an explanation. He gave us this drawing.
I don't know if you will see properly but the obstructor caught in the noose really doesn't look too happy.
Dear admin, May i know that is it had any info that what colour we should use for the Lasso? can i learn how to make it,and offer all Lasso to my lovely Guru?
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the oracle really fears. but inside is full of compassion !!
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This is a beautiful picture from Shar Gaden, with HH Kyabje Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche in the middle, HE Kyabje Yongyal Rinpoche on the left and HH Kyabje Dromo Geshe Rinpoche on the right.
Beneath them are the Dharma protectors, Kalarupa on the left, Dorje Shugden in the middle and Lord Setrabchen on the right.
I like the rainbow surrounding the great masters and Lama Tsongkhapa. I know this is a composite image but it is still very lovely!
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Beautiful picture of the three great lineage lamas......so nice to see young Kyabje Dromo Geshe Rinpoche being enthroned. It would be really nice one day to see Trijang Rinpoche returned to Shar Gaden, with long horns, red carpet and monks and students lining in rows with flower garlands.........
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Reading thru the older posts and viewing the pictures, it is such a great blessings for newbies like me. Thank you all for posting and sharing the pictures.
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Dear admin, May i know that is it had any info that what colour we should use for the Lasso? can i learn how to make it,and offer all Lasso to my lovely Guru?
@vegeing The lasso is red in colour. I do think that you can learn how to make it but where, I'm not too sure. Perhaps somewhere in Nepal or India?
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This is a beautiful Dorje Shugden thangka from Dagom Ladrang.. it's a very unusual style.. does anyone know what style it is? Also, you can see an eye on his outstretched right arm. According to the history of Dorje Shugden, when the 5th Dalai Lama's assistants tried to kill Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen by stabbing him, wherever they stabbed, an eye would appear and stare back at them. This is also an unusual feature on a thangka though. I don’t think I have seen another image where there are eyes though I have heard that there are.
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I would like to share with you a very beautiful thangka picture that my friend sent to me. It is called Ganze, meaning an offering thangka that we will usually find in a protector chapel. It is a type of black thangka (Nathang). Yidams on the thangka are Vajrayogini, Setrap, Yamantaka, Dorje Shugden. On the thangka, the deites are not shown but you can see the ornaments and implements for each yidam. It symbolizes we are offering the implements to yidams. For example, for Vajrayogini, you can see the outline and the blood-filled skull cup, the garland of human skulls, the khatvanga staff etc. For Yamantaka, we can see the tiger skin.
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Gaden Lhagyalma with gyalchen Shugden.
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Amazing picture of Trakze.
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Amazing picture of Trakze.
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This picture was scanned from the Je Tsongkhapa biography recently published by Serpom Monastery. :)
If you would like the high resolution file, send me a message. Unfortunately it is too big (5mb) to post here but a bit easier to send via email in a zip file.
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What yidam or protector is this? Who is Trakze? Related to Shugden?
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What yidam or protector is this? Who is Trakze? Related to Shugden?
Trakze is Karma Shugden
Dorje Shugden’s “wrathful” form (Dorje Shugden manifests in five different forms for different purposes)
Trakze is dark red in colour and riding a garuda.
He is very swift in helping us overcome the strongest of negative obstacles, maras and evil sprits that harm practitioners.
Trakze’s practice is very helpful for overcoming black magic and extremely dangerous situations.
The Five Emanations of Dorje Shugden (http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=4279)
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Below is Lama Yeshe's Dorje Shugden statue. The statue was originally from Kopan Monastery in Nepal. Lama Yeshe practiced Dorje Shugden till his last breath. But unfortunately many of His students decided to give up the practice and broke their samaya with their Guru.
The statue is now in Gangchen Ladrang, Nepal. You can read more about it here: http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=8 (http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=8)
More news on Lama Yeshe's reincarnation here: http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=252 (http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=252)
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Hello there,
where's that picture of Trijang Rinpoche surrounded by his previous incarnations? I'd like to make an offering of it to a teacher, but I can't seem to find it. Can anyone help me out?
Thanks.
K x
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The Great King Dorje Shugde
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Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang, among many of his prior lives.
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Just saw this nice photo so i thought i'd share it! Gyume Khensur Rinpoche Gen Drate and Kyabje Jetsun Jampa Ngodup Rinpoche at a long life Ceremony at Rabten Choling, Switzerland
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Shar Gaden Monks Singing the Migtsema Mantra] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQXJwFoa2iQ#ws]Shar Gaden Monks Singing the Migtsema Mantra (http://[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQXJwFoa2iQ#ws)[/url]
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Shar Gaden Monks Singing the Migtsema Mantra (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQXJwFoa2iQ#ws)
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thread-cross
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Just wanted to share with everyone. Lately I've been talking to my friends and they have started to like DS practice. So I was shocked to see one of my friends placing a large DS image on her altar which I printed and gave to her. I downloaded the image for here: http://www.dorjeshugden.com/category/downloads/images/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/category/downloads/images/)
Thanks for the great photo gallery with high res images to download and print out!
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This is not DS related, but i find it so unique and beautiful that i thought of sharing it here. It is a picture of Lama Tsongkhapa as the lord of the 84 mahasiddhas, and he is depicted in his mahasiddha form, flanked by the 84 mahasiddhas and the rest of hs 5 forms are here as well.
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with legend
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Source: http://www.himalayanart.org/image.cfm/90748.html (http://www.himalayanart.org/image.cfm/90748.html)
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Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang
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Interesting pictures. care to provide some brief info on each??
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Found this old image of Lord Dharmapala Dorje Shugden... does anyone know who are the two deities at the bottom? Is the one on the right Dharmapala Lord Setrap?
And who is this deity on the left?
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DUH! The picture file says namkar-barzin so I am guessing it's Namkar Barzin and not Setrap!!!
So who is the white deity? Anyone???
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Wow, beautiful & holy pictures! Love the one of Tsongkhapa as Mahasiddha with the 84 mahasiddhas. Unfortunately, the other shared pictures have no explanations. Would be great if someone can help name if not explain some of the pictures.
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Excellent high resolution thangka of Tsongkhapa with disciples and Dorje Shugden for you to download and print out.
i love this high resolution image of the thangka, very beautiful and it depicts the lineages so perfectly. thank you Admin for sharing with us the wonderful thangka image! it is a very nice artwork by the artist done!! :D
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Sharing some Dorje Shugden's Tsa Tsa and statue here - Antique Statue of Dorje Shugden
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Vajrayogini Body Mandala with Dorje Shugden
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An Ancient Protector, Dorje Shugden
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Does any one know who this is?
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Thanks Icy for sharing, those pictures are such a rare one
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Mahamudra gurus lineage with Dorje Shugden
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Padmasambhava with Dorje Shugden
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Vajradhara with Dorje Shugden. Painted by the great Tibetan artist Chating Jamyang Lama
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Dorje Shugden is depicted in thangkas with different Buddhas.
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Antique Yamantaka thangka
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With Vajrayogini
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With Heruka
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With Prajnaparamita
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with Vajradhara
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Antique thangka depicting Je Tsongkhapa with Dorje Shugden
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Dorje Shugden's Retinue
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Seated Dorje Shugden with Shri Devi
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Dorje Shugden statue made by the 5th Dalai Lama:
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Dorje Shugden is a fully enlightened beings, reaching out in love and compassion to relieve the suffering of all sentient beings. It is truly blessed to be able to practise Dorje Shugden in this life, an authentic practice and unbroken lineage of Buddha Shakyamuni.
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Another lovely picture of Dorje Shugden:
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Rare depiction of Dorje Shugden
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Rare depiction of Dorje Shugden
Very nice!
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Thank you for the sharing of some really holy and sacred pictures, friends! I'm sure that it's going to benefit a lot of people. Some of these pictures prove that Lord Dorje Shugden is definitely an enlightened Buddha and not what some people would prefer to call, a " spirit " or a cult. We have no rights to judge somebody else's religion, we don't have the knowledge, the resources etc, so basically what we can do best is, stop criticising peoples' faith.
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Visiting old post which dated back in the year 2007 and still seeing new post that followed until to date was really like going through the time tunnel!
It’s a pictorial reflection of the heroic member in preservation of DS lineage and its Lineage Masters. Behind the scene, there are the team of hard working DS.com members , their tears and joys and most importantly the benefit of disseminating of the practice of the holy protector for the benefit of others….
May all who are fortunate to gaze upon the holy protector form plant the seed of wisdom and make connection life after life.
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Wow! All the pictures shared are fabulous and awesome. Personally, I particularly put a lot of attention viewing and admiring the tangka of Mahamudra gurus lineage with Dorje Shugden . So fortunate to be able to bump into this thread and it really made my day. Thank you to all who has contributed all the wonderful and eye opening pictures. :)
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Visiting old post which dated back in the year 2007 and still seeing new post that followed until to date was really like going through the time tunnel!
It’s a pictorial reflection of the heroic member in preservation of DS lineage and its Lineage Masters. Behind the scene, there are the team of hard working DS.com members , their tears and joys and most importantly the benefit of disseminating of the practice of the holy protector for the benefit of others….
May all who are fortunate to gaze upon the holy protector form plant the seed of wisdom and make connection life after life.
May these images blessed all who see it and create the causes and conditions to practice the Dharma especially the teachings of Lama Tsongkhapa.
CHO KHI GYAL PO TSONG KHA PA
CHO TSUL NAM PAR PHEL WA LA
GEK KI TSHAN MA ZHI WA DANG
THUN KYIN MA LU TSHANG WAR SHOK
DA DANG SHEN GI DU SUM DANG
DRIL WA TSOK NYI LA TEN NAY
GYA WA LO ZANG DRAG PA YI
TAN PAR YUN RING VAR GYUR CHIG
I rejoice in this post. Thank You DorjeShugden.com.
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What a fabulous album of wonderful photos. Some of the photos of Dorje Shugden are amazing artistic and very unusual especially the one which depicts Shugden in flames and only recognisable are the heart held and the wisdom sword. Very interesting.
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Thank you for sharing these extraordinary pictures. The first picture is so unique, I have never seen any paintings or pictures that has Lama Tsongkhapa, Dorje Shugden and Vajrayogini. This picture is a prove that Dorje Shugden is an enlightened being instead of an evil spirit.
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Dear Friends,
This is from a new thread I started, but I am putting it here as well in response to the argument that begins around the 2nd or 3rd page of this thread on Pictures - an argument between a Mitchell and a few others, especially an Alexis who gets quite heated. Please be open and consider the following information that I have compiled based on valid lineage sources. Thank you.
I want to share a couple things on the various ways of relying on Dharmapalas. There appears to be some confusion on this subject due to lack of background knowledge, and so some arguments have arisen such as in the Pictures thread on this site. By no means do I understand all that I'd like on this subject, but I am inspired to share some things I do know from reading and from oral transmissions I've received.
There are many different ways to rely on Protectors, and some of these ways are more intense, serious, have special commitments, or require deeper experience of the 3 principal aspects and the two tantric stages. However, for simplicity I would say there are 2 categories: 1) Asking for help, and 2) Controlling and Commanding the Dharmapala to fulfill their oaths and accomplish the 4 types of action we require.
The first way is the main method used by most people and it isn't even really explained as one of many ways to rely, it is simply a given - we are humbled in the presence of the Dharmapala and ask for their assistance as someone would ask a friend for help. This is beautiful, and probably the best approach in general until we develop deeper experience of the 3 principal aspects (renunciation, bodhichitta, wisdom experience of emptiness) and at least the generation stage of Highest Yoga Tantra.
The second way was mentioned and caused quite a stir in the Pictures section on this site. It is understandable people would respond defensively when you consider the delicate aspects of the controversy and arguments saying the Great King Dorje Shugden is a malevolent spirit. In the aforementioned thread, someone named Mitchell explains that he has a recording of Zong Rinpoche saying to 'control Dorje Shugden and not let him take you over', and people insisted this was garbage. However, please consider the following links and points carefully, because there actually is a more advanced way of relying on Dharmapalas that involves Controlling and Commanding them. Such an approach is not reserved for exclusively controlling and commanding worldly Protectors and spirits, but an advanced method for accomplishing the 4 actions more powerfully. I am not making things up, but sharing what I have received orally from Lamas and read by qualified translators.
So, first of all we have this supposed comment by H.E.Zong Rinpoche. Also, we can consider that these 2 ways of relying on Dharmapalas can be applied to other rituals where we are emphasizing the 4 actions. Examples of this are things such as Gektor rituals (obstacle-dispelling tormas) offered at the beginning of initiations and close retreats, fire pujas of the 4 actions, and the 4 actions emphasized through use of the wrathful Deities of the Command Wheel in Vajrabhairava practice. In general, there is an asking approach as a practitioner where we don't have divine pride, and a more commanding approach where we have divine pride and command or accomplish the 4 types of actions.
Secondly, we have this excerpt from a teaching by Je Pabongkhapa Dechen Nyingpo when explaining Life-entrustment:
Pabongkha Rinpoche wrote:
"I have written this at the request of Shugden, because in the past there was a tradition of Sogde (srog gtad) to Shugden but later neither the tradition nor the text could be found—they have become like flowers in the sky—so Shugden has asked me two times to write a new initiation text. I have passed on the practice of initiation (dbang) to some disciples in accordance with my own experience, and (a text) has been written as a seed for (a detailed text). But only that would be not reliable and something like an illegitimate son. Therefore, I explained it in detail to my master Tagphu Dorje Chang and presented this draft to him. …He took that draft and wrote his text down, combining this seed text with his own vision. Tagphu commented about the five types of Shugden, the respective colors etc., the offerings to be arranged, thus at the time of initiation the large Lamrim text should be there on the altar, a cakra representing one’s life, damaru, dorje etc. The practitioner has to utter the life generating words of Vajrabhairava and to make torma offerings. … The initiation can be given to somebody who has received initiation into Vajrabhairava and keeps the commitments connected with it. …Though there are so many different traditions and philosophies in Tibet, only this tradition of Tsongkhapa is the supreme, the top of the victory banner, the most complete, the essence of the teaching. … To bring Shugden into one’s own service is a very powerful blessing. In order to receive this initiation the disciples visualize themselves as the yidam (Vajrabhairava) and as such invoke and control Shugden. The dharmapala (Shugden) is presented to the disciples as the one who abides by their commands."
In oral commentaries on practices related to Palden Lhamo and Kalarupa, the late Je Tsering Lotsawa (David Gonsalez of Dechen Ling Press) explained that traditionally speaking, it is important that the practitioner self-generate as a Yidam that is more wrathful than the Dharmapala being propitiated (such as Vajrabhairava, Hayagriva Sangdrup, Sumbaraja, Heruka or Vajrayogini) in order to powerfully command them to fulfill their oaths and any of the four actions that we require of them. Also, he says we as the Yidam should be larger than the Dharmapalas, and they are to be visualized lower than us on the North-Eastern petal of the lotus of our mandala or outside and lower than our celestial mansion. It is not that Vajrabhairava is Higher than Dorje Shugden for instance, especially since they are the same being, but it is simply showing an emphasis of the Controlling and Commanding approach. To take this approach, he explains that it is very important that we have a good intention free of worldly concern through gaining experience of the three principal aspects of the path, and that we also have particularly strong confidence that we are the actual Yidam, which is made possible through correct experience of emptiness. In such an instant, there is no such thought as 'I'm not really a Buddha, just a lowly practitioner with worldly concern'. The genuine experience of deity yoga does away with such conceptualizations, with the exception of purification rituals in which one maintains clear appearance of being the Yidam but reduces divine pride. Commanding Protectors to fulfill their oaths and the 4 actions we require is also a powerful ritual in the Vajrabhairava Command Wheel and many amazing results have been seen through such powerful methods of Command.
If you are not even comfortable with the mere idea of the approach I've explained, just forget about it and rely on the Dharmapalas as you usually do. But know that there is another advanced way to approach it when you have prepared internally for this. Please do not feel I am implying that the approach of humbly asking for help is not powerful and effective. Even in that instance using such a humble beautiful approach, we do so by starting out saying 'I have the clarity of the Yidam', but as may often be the case, the practitioner is conceiving themselves to be ordinary in the ordinary environment and they are asking for help, and that is also totally valid and fine. H.E.Tsem Tulku Rinpoche has even composed some ritual prayers for anybody to do Dorje Shugden prayers, even people with no experience of Dharma or who are from other religions. How beautiful and kind of him! But, know that it is not sufficient to remain ordinary forever, that we should try to improve, and that a time will come in the course of your spiritual journey when you are ready to use and understand the approach of Commanding the Dharmapalas.
For further reading to support this Command approach, please read the following article by Alex Berzin:
http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/en/archives/advanced/tantra/level1_getting_started/what_dharma_protectors_ab.html (http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/en/archives/advanced/tantra/level1_getting_started/what_dharma_protectors_ab.html)
As for being controlled or taken over by the Dharmapala, that simply means that when you emphasize the command method, you should not allow yourself to lose the divine pride from which you are commanding actions. In general it is wonderful to allow ourselves to be controlled by the Dharmapalas because we are humble, and recognizing their Enlightened nature as one with the Guru, we are delighted for them to take control and lead us in the right direction. Our heart already belongs to them! But, in another sense, their heart also belongs to us because in the life-entrustment ritual they promise the Guru to take care of us our entire lives until enlightenment and so they have entrusted their heart to us. It is worth noting that in the more simple Dorje Shugden jenang given in the NKT, though it is not called a Life-entrustment empowerment and does not carry the heavier commitments of such, the Lama does request and essentially command the Protector to take special care of us until we attain enlightenment, so in this sense, even the NKT ritual is a type of life-entrustment. So beautiful!
Please understand there's nothing I've said here that has not been explained by the Lamas. I've shared it to help clarify some misunderstandings, and to share some wonderful things with fellow practitioners. I hope somebody has found it useful.
Homage to the Lama, source of the most precious opportunity we'll ever have, ever!
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Thank you all for sharing the beautiful picture of Protector Dorje Shugden, holy Lamas and Buddhas. I love all the different depictions of the enlightened Protector and such tribute to him. How blessed we are to see all the holy Lamas and Buddhas too! May the ban on Dorje Shugden be swiftly lifted and his practice be freely practice to benefit more with the Dharma and Lama Tsongkapa's teachings.
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Two skeletons (shin-kyong) in an embrace, painted mural formerly preserved in the Dungkar Monastery (Chumbi Valley)
Detailed place of photography: Tibet, Chumbi Valley, Dungkar Monastery \ Object: Acetate film \ Technique: N Silver salt gelatin \ Date of artwork: IV sec. a.C./ XIX sec. d.C. \ Period and style: Asia,Ancient Civilization \ Artwork support: Mural Painting,Movable Modern Work \ Location: Asia, Tibet, Chumbi Valley, Dungkar Monastery \