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I will never understand this. How is self-immolation non-violent? The Dalai Lama has never approved it so why do they think its the right thing to do? The fewer the Tibetans there are, the easier the Chinese have it...fewer Tibetans they have to govern.
Self-immolation is also taking a life, whatever your motivation is. Their breaking their refuge vows...so come to think about it, the only people who are still keeping their vows are Dorje Shugden practitioners. We dont take our own lives, we dont take other peoples lives, we still have our samaya with our teachers... were not doing half bad, are we? :)
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"During this wave of immolations, the Dalai Lama has remained mostly silent, except to say that he must remain "neutral" on the protests. "If I say something negative, then the family members of those people feel very sad," he told a reporter for The Hindu newspaper in July. "They sacrificed their own life. It is not easy. So I do not want to create some kind of impression that this is wrong.""
Source :TIBET'S MAN ON FIRE ARTICLE
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/121130-tibet-burning-protest-china-world/ (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/121130-tibet-burning-protest-china-world/)
The above article which I have read earlier struck me quite deeply. Why has HH remained silent? I mean to me self immolation is violent and as we can see many people have follow suit. More people will follow and will kill themselves.
Isn't this suicidal which is against Buddhism?
Also Why is HH is so quiet? I am sure if HH has a press conference and told the Tibetans to stop. They will stop as he is their leader and they will view HH as their GOD.
Strange......
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I never condone the act of self immolation. I feel there are better ways to make our presence felt rather than killing our own life so that our voices can be heard in a bit to free our country. Killing oneself is totally against Buddhism but having said that I really feel for the people who have sacrificed themselves for this and am totally baffled by how Dalai Lama or CTA even do not make any public announcement to prevent more of this happens. While many would treat self immolation to be very noble but i found there could be better ways to deal with this long standing issue rather than setting fire on oneself and sent out the wrong message to the rest of the world that Tibetans are extremists.
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Shugdenpromoter and Brian,
I think this is the very point of the article - that the Dalai Lama and the CTA have remained so quiet on the issue, when other Buddhist leaders, such as both the Karmapas, have stated their disapproval of these acts very clearly (see the articles here: http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/news/both-karmapas-urge-tibetans-to-stop-self-immolation/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/news/both-karmapas-urge-tibetans-to-stop-self-immolation/)). In keeping quiet about self-immolations and not putting a firm stance AGAINST it, it does appear very much like the Dalai Lama and his government are in support of it or perhaps even the ones behind the acts. It might be controversial to say this, but for a country looking after its own self interests, like China, it could certainly seem like the Dalai Lama's people are behind these acts as a means of creating unrest. This isn't necessarily true, but it could very much look like that.
You see, the CTA and the Dalai Lama have LONG spoken very clearly about their stance on Dorje Shugden. It is very clear what the Tibetans are expected to do: give up their practice IF NOT, they suffer ostracism, are denied welfare and under threat of being expelled from their monasteries, jobs and communities. The DL and his people could also very easily issue a similar statement about self-immolations, to show that they do NOT support such atrocious acts of violence, self-inflicted or otherwise.
The fact that there is so much said about Dorje Shugden - a comparatively very peaceful practice - and so little said about something as destructive as the self-immolations is suspicious enough.
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By The Associated Press 12/27/12
BEIJING -- Chinese authorities are tightening controls in an ethnic Tibetan region where at least 10 people set themselves on fire and hundreds demonstrated last month to protest Chinese rule, a news report said Thursday.
Huangnan prefecture in western China's Qinghai province is beefing up security and taking steps to shield the area from outside influence to deter self-immolations, the state-run, web-based Qinghai News reported. The local government will also use economic rewards and punishments to crack down on the practice.
China has blamed exiled spiritual leader the Dalai Lama and his associates for the self-immolations in Qinghai and other Tibetan regions, but supporters of Tibetan rights say the fault lies with Beijing's oppressive rule of the Himalayan region.
The number of incidents spiked in November when the ruling Chinese Communist Party held a national congress to install its new leaders for the next five years.
In Huangnan, local authorities are stepping up police and military patrol of public areas and setting up checkpoints to keep foreigners out of the Tongren area, home to the restive Rongwo monastery, Qinghai News said.
The 600-year-old monastery has been the scene of several self-immolations. In the town of Rongwo, hundreds of Tibetans staged a demonstration in November, shouting for independence and for the return of the Dalai Lama, according to witnesses.
To discourage self-immolations, the prefecture will thoroughly account for inflammables, monitor residents and organize propaganda teams to condemn self-immolations. Authorities will confiscate illegal satellite dishes that allow local residents to receive anti-China programs from abroad, register every business that sells satellite signal receiving devices, and replace 3,000 television sets in monastery dormitories.
The government will "handsomely" award those who offer tips on premeditated acts of self-immolation, report any instigators, dissuade self-immolations or put out fires on the scene. It will also use economic tools – such as canceling social security and postponing projects – to punish the villages where self-immolations occur and the people who visit family members of self-immolators, Qinghai News said.
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How would these steps help to deter self-immolation? Like the saying goes : If there's a will, there's a way. Offering of handsome awards does not guarantee that the people will stop altogether.
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Self immolations will never lead to anything for the Tibetans. It will only create more and more distrust and unhappiness with the Chinese and it will eventually make the world numb to their self immolations, and the loss of human lives based on that will no longer be felt by anyone. The Tibetans can gain real independence if they actually realize that real independence is really to safeguard their culture and religion as opposed to holding meaningless bans like the one against Dorje Shugden.
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Tuesday, September 24, 2013 17:09]
Karma Nyedon Gyatso/file/Tibettimes
Karma Nyedon Gyatso/file/Tibettimes
DHARAMSHALA, September 24: Tibetans exiles today protested against Nepal government’s secret cremation of Karma Nyedon Gyatso, a differently abled monk who set himself on fire near Boudhanath stupa in the Nepalese capital Kathmandu on August 6.
The protestors put up an empty white cloth and a clay pot at the protest site to represent the Nepalese government’s failure to release the body of Gyatso and return his ashes to the Tibetan community.
The protest action was jointly organized by Dharamshala regional chapters of Tibetan Women’s Association, Tibetan Youth Congress and Students for a Free Tibet, India.
The organizers also offered prayers and butter lamp to mark the 49th day of his demise.
“Nepal cannot forget the civilizational relations with Tibet coming under the Chinese government's political pressure today. Our gratitude for asylum cannot condone Nepal's ongoing repression of Tibetan refugees living there” said Tenzin Tsundue of Regional Tibetan Youth Congress.
Earlier in March, the Nepalese authorities secretly cremated Drupchen Tsering despite repeated appeals from Tibetans and their supporters to release his body.
“This is the second time that the Nepalese government has committed such a heinous and cowardly act. Denying Karma Nyedon Gyatso his final Buddhist cremation rites is utterly saddening and outrageous,” said Tenzin Jigdal, Program Director of Students for a Free Tibet, India. “Nepal still has an opportunity to show the world that it respects human rights and religious freedom thereby upholding its moral and principal values. The Nepalese government should stop kowtowing to China.”
Although no official confirmation was made on Gyatso's secret cremation Radio Free Asia earlier reported that Gyatso was secretly cremated on September 2 at Pyre No. 5 at Pashupatinath Aryaghat crematorium in Kathmandu.
In 2010, Nepal disrupted Tibetan elections by confiscating ballot boxes containing thousands of ballots just an hour before the polls were due to be closed.
Nepal, which is home to some 20,000 Tibetans, has accommodated Tibetan exiles for decades, but has come under increasing pressure from China, a major donor for the impoverished country, to crack down on the political protests.
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A Delhi based rock band has dedicated a music video to Tibet paying tribute to the Tibetans who have sacrificed their lives through self immolations.
Titled ‘Freedom’, the music video calls the world to unite for Tibet. “There is a lack of unification among the rest of the world that is helping China to continue its repression in Tibet. We fail to understand that why the world is not standing up together,” the band’s frontman Arjun Singh Rawal said.
Arjun said the series of self-immolation protests in Tibet has inspired him to write the song. Chill Om Records, India's leading Independent Record Label has teamed up with Arjun to support the Tibet cause.
Arjun's Debut album 'Beer Pong' released by Times Music
Varun Arora, the band manager, said they had no clue initially how they could help Tibet. All they had in mind was to help Tibet's struggle get noticed. “All we could do for it was through our music. Because we believe Music has the power to change people.”
“This music video is a gift to the Dalai Lama and we live by the Dalai Lama’s thoughts, and believe that Tibet would be free one day”, said Arjun.
“Freedom” was released last month and was recorded by Chill Om Records, India’s leading independent record label.
A part of lyrics reads, “Everything you made, And everything you took away for good, I fought for the love and for the peace in you, I crossed the line for you, I sacrificed for you, I crossed the line for you and, Broke away...”
The band wants all the Tibetan patriots to know that they support them. The song is made available for free download here
The band's debut album, ‘Beer Pong’ was released on Times Music. The band takes you back to the hard-rock scene, combines several contemporary elements of alternative rock and remains very open to experimenting with variety of other genres, said Varun.
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September 28: A Tibetan man died after setting himself on fire today around 4.30 PM(local time) in Gomang Thawa township in Ngaba County, reported the Tibet Times.
Engulfed in flames, Shichung, 41, ran from his house towards the main road before collapsing, a Tibetan monk from south India told the the Tibet Times. He succumbed to his burns and passed away at the site of his protest.
Following his self-immolation protest, local Tibetans tried to take the body to his home but were stopped by Chinese security personnel numbering over 150. The authorities eventually confiscated Shichung’s body.
Every year, the local Tibetans of Gomang Thawa township gather for an entertainment program which follows the collection of lists of prayers they have said at home. Shichung had just returned to his home after the program today. He had lit a butter lamp in front of a portrait of the exile Tibetan leader His Holiness the Dalai Lama before setting himself on fire.
Shichung is survived by his wife and two children.
Since 2009, as many as 121 Tibetans have set themselves on fire in Tibet calling for freedom in Tibet and return of His Holiness the Dalai Lama from exile.
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DHARAMSHALA, September 23: Kirti Rinpoche, the exiled head of the Kirti monasteries in Tibetan area of Ngaba, which has seen much of the self immolation protests by Tibetans since 2009, on Saturday condemned the death sentence of Lobsang Konchok and Dolma Kyab terming the Chinese legal system “unfair”.
“Chinese government earlier sentenced Lobsang Konchok and Dolma Kyab to death for their connection with self-immolation protests without any concrete evidences, which clearly shows China's violation of the international law and disregard to basic human rights,” said Kirti Rinpoche, who was speaking at an event ‘Petition to the United Nations’ organized by National Democratic Party of Tibet.
In January this year, a Chinese court sentenced Lobsang Konchok, 40, a monk of Ngaba Kirti Monastery, to death with a two-year reprieve, and Dolma Kyab, the husband of Tibetan self-immolator Kunchok Wangmo, in August.
Rinpoche also appealed the United Nations and international community to release all the Tibetan political prisoners including the young Panchen Rinpoche.
“This is not only an utter disregard of International laws and basic Human Rights, but also a clear proof of a nation’s systematic violation of civilian rights,” said Gelek Jamyang, President of National Democratic Party of Tibet. “The dictatorial excesses of the Communist regime of China are a crime against humanity and it is a blot on peace at large in the world.”
The campaign was aimed to bring the situation in Tibet to the notice of the United Nations and to solve the crisis inside Tibet. Also present at the event were Dharamshala settlement officer Sonam Dorjee, Tsering Tsomo, Director of Tibetan Centre for Human Rights, and Democracy and leaders of Tibetan NGOs.
As a part of the campaign, songs were performed in honor of Tibetan self-immolators.
Since 2009, 121 Tibetans have set themselves on fire in Tibet calling for freedom in Tibet and return of His Holiness the Dalai Lama from exile. A number of Tibetans were also persecuted for their alleged involvement in the self-immolation protests in various regions of Tibet.
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DHARAMSHALA, September 26: Days ahead of China’s second Universal Periodic Review, Tibetans and supporters in Geneva are lobbying at the ongoing session of United Nations Human Rights Council to press the UN member states to raise Tibet issue during China’s UPR on October 22.
In 2009 report of China’s UPR, China accepted some recommendations on the promotion of human rights in general but played down recommendations including measures to provide freedom of information and expression; ensure the independence of the judiciary and lawyers; safeguard detainees’ access to counsel; protect lawyers from attacks and harassment; and grant freedom of religion and movement to ethnic minorities such as Tibetans and Uyghurs.
“Since China’s last Review in 2009, the situation in Tibet has deteriorated significantly and looks set to continue on a downward spiral,” said Migmar Dhakyel of Tibetan Youth Association Europe. “Governments cannot let this opportunity pass to put China’s human rights practices under the microscope on an international stage. They must Stand Up for Tibet and ensure that China’s disastrous policies are thoroughly scrutinized.”
The deepening crisis in Tibet has witnessed large scale anti-China protests and 120 self-immolation protest since 2009, 103 has died in their fiery protest calling for freedom in Tibet and the return of the Dalai Lama from exile.
“The current human rights crisis in Tibet is a result of 60 years of China’s failed Tibet policies,” said Tenzin Jigme of International Tibet Network. “The international community has so far failed in its responsibility to protect the people of Tibet. Now is the time to unite for Tibet and press China to forge real, lasting solutions to the Tibet situation which respect the human rights of the Tibetan people.”
The Universal Periodic Review (UPR) is a mechanism of the Human Rights Council that provides an opportunity for all States to declare what actions they have taken to improve the human rights situations in their countries and to overcome challenges to the enjoyment of human rights. The UPR also includes a sharing of best human rights practices around the globe.
A lobby team comprises of Migmar Dolma, Tibetan Youth Association Europe; Dorjee Tsetan, Asia Director of Students for a Free Tibet; Padma Dolma, Europe Director of Students for a Free Tibet; Iona Lidell, Tibet Justice Center; Zopa Samten and Gyamtso of Students for a Free Tibet, France.
The lobby team also noted that a global advocacy push by Tibetans and Tibet supporters is currently underway with activists raising Tibet on Foreign Ministries’ agendas around the world, urging them to take multilateral action for Tibet, including using the Universal Periodic Review to demand that China address Tibetans’ legitimate grievances.
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Thank you Icy for the updates.
It is just wrong for these Tibetans to self-immolate. By choosing the path to self-immolate, it will not do them any good at all. It will not help the other Tibetans or even the CTA to bring Dalai Lama back to Tibet or have the China government return Tibet to them. By self-immolating, it only shows how selfish these people are, they do not think about what happens to those around them, and they do not know how to treasure the human life. When they failed in self-immolation, how are they going to face those around them? They did not help in any percentage towards the goal, instead they have made the situation worst. They did not treasure their life, how would they even get people to respect them after this has happened?
The CTA is just like a wolf in a sheep's skin, using the Tibetans life to get sympathy from the rest of the world. They do not even deserve to be the government for the Tibetans at all. At this rate, I believe that the CTA has only done more harm towards the Tibetans as compared to the good things that they have done for their own people.
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Thank you Icy for the updates.
It is just wrong for these Tibetans to self-immolate. By choosing the path to self-immolate, it will not do them any good at all. It will not help the other Tibetans or even the CTA to bring Dalai Lama back to Tibet or have the China government return Tibet to them. By self-immolating, it only shows how selfish these people are, they do not think about what happens to those around them, and they do not know how to treasure the human life. When they failed in self-immolation, how are they going to face those around them? They did not help in any percentage towards the goal, instead they have made the situation worst. They did not treasure their life, how would they even get people to respect them after this has happened?
The CTA is just like a wolf in a sheep's skin, using the Tibetans life to get sympathy from the rest of the world. They do not even deserve to be the government for the Tibetans at all. At this rate, I believe that the CTA has only done more harm towards the Tibetans as compared to the good things that they have done for their own people.
Dear Rinchen
There is confidential news recently that Dalai Lama and some top Chinese officials have met in a neutral country in Europe informally under closed doors to talk about the main issues of Tibet and self-immolation of Tibetans which is one of the growing concern of both parties. We hope to hear some positive news arising from the meeting and pray that both parties are able to come to a happy conclusion of long outstanding issues faced by Tibet and China.
Icy
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True Freedom Fighters:
His Holiness the Dalai Lama and fellow Nobel Peace Laureate Aung San Suu Kyi during their meeting in Prague, Czech Republic, September 15, 2013.
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October 1: The Chinese authorities in Ngaba County have forced the family members of the latest Tibetan self immolator to throw his remains into a river, a Tibetan source said.
According to Tsayang Gyatso, a Tibetan living in exile, some monks of Jonang Se monastery and the family members of the deceased approached the County authorities to collect the ashes of Shichung, the 41 year old Tibetan who died immediately after his self immolations protest in Gomang Thawa township in Ngaba county on September 28.
“However, a day after his self immolation Chinese officials and the police barred them from taking Shichung's remains to their home, compelling them to throw it into the Ngachu river.”
Shichung, a father of two, set himself on fire on Saturday around 4.30 PM (local time) in Gomang Thawa Township in Ngaba County. He lit a butter lamp in front of a portrait of the exiled Tibetan leader His Holiness the Dalai Lama before taking setting himself ablaze.
Sources said that local Tibetans confronted the Chinese security forces numbering over 150 trying to stop the body from being taken away. A major confrontation was avoided, sources said, after local Tibetan elders present there calmed the situation down. However, the Chinese authorities confiscated his body and drove with it towards Ngaba County.
Following his self-immolation protest, around 200 monks of Jonang Se monastery arrived at Shichung’s home and performed the final rites. Local Tibetans also paid their last respects.
The same source also noted that Chinese authorities yesterday barred local Tibetans from visiting Shichung's home, frisked every Tibetan and even confiscated their mobile handsets.
Shichung is survived by his wife and two children.
Since 2009, as many as 122 Tibetans have set themselves on fire in Tibet calling for freedom in Tibet and return of His Holiness the Dalai Lama from exile.
Condemning the Chinese authorities’ act of forcibly taking the custody of Tibetan self-immolators body, Tibetan Centre for Human Rights and Democracy said, “There is a pattern to the way China has been disposing off bodies of self-immolation protesters. In many cases, Chinese authorities had given only ashes to families and relatives of self-immolation protesters.”
“In Tibet today, even the dead are denied their right to a culturally appropriate cremation. Moreover, restrictions have become more severe on families and friends who hold necessary religious rituals in memory of a deceased in self-immolation protests.”
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Tibet self-immolations: Tsering Woeser and Ai Weiwei collaborate on book
Tibetan poet and Chinese artist publish Immolations in Tibet: The Shame of the World, after more than 120 such protests
Tibetan poet Tsering Woeser and dissident artist Ai Weiwei have collaborated on a book about Tibetan self-immolations, attempting to explain the suicidal protests that have gripped the Himalayan region since 2009.
The book, Immolations in Tibet: The Shame of the World, is written by Woeser with cover art by Ai. A French-language first edition was published on Thursday.
"I think [the self-immolations] are an earth-shattering thing," Woeser said in a telephone interview from Lhasa. "Yet people are silent. Why are they silent? In China, one reason is that the government blocks information, they block the truth, so a lot of people don't know that this is happening. Yet in a lot of places – even in China – people know this is happening, but don't really care."
She continued: "In this book, I want to write about why people self-immolate – to help people understand, to break the silence."
Since February 2009, at least 122 Tibetans have set themselves on fireas a grimin protest and most have died from their wounds. The protesters have been a diverse group, comprised of men and women, monks and lay people, elders and teenagers. There are many reasons behind self-immolations, from the trauma of forced resettlement to surveillance cameras in monasteries. "Self-immolation is the most hard-hitting thing that these isolated protesters can do while still respecting principles of non-violence," Woeser writes.wrote in the book.
Beijing condemns the protests as terrorism and blames them on "hostile forces from abroad" – particularly the Dalai Lama, who has lived in India since 1959.
Woeser, one of the few Tibetan authors to write in Chinese, grew up in Tibet but now lives under close surveillance in Beijing. Since she moved to the capital a decade ago, she has posted volumes of poetry and essays online, many of them openly critical of the Chinese government's regional policies. In the book, Woeser describes Tibet as a "giant prison criss-crossed with armed soldiers and armoured vehicles".
After Tibet was racked by riots in 2008, Woeser was placed under house arrest with her husband Wang Xilong, also a prominent writer and activist. Authorities once again confined her to her home in 2012, to prevent her from receiving an award at the Dutch embassy.
Woeser called the book short – about 20,000 words – and said she wrote it quickly, between April and June of this year. Ai's minimalist cover depicts the swirling outline of orange-and-yellow flames; its white background is subtly inlaid with each self-immolator's name, written in Tibetan.
Woeser said that she considers Ai a friend, and called his views on Tibetan issues, which she had seen on Twitter, "very pertinent, and very precise". She asked him to design the cover in late August. "He agreed immediately," she said. "He said of course, the meaning of these self-immolations, whether on a philosophical or a religious level, is beyond what us living people can ordinarily understand. But he said he'd be willing to try."
Woeser said that while publishing the book may carry risks, she refuses to be cowed, drawing inspiration from the people she writes about. "Their courage gives me courage," she said.
Tibetan activist and writer Tsering Woeser has written a book about self-immolation protests, with cover art by artist Ai Weiwei Photograph: Bill Smith/EPA
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Woeser said that while publishing the book may carry risks, she refuses to be cowed, drawing inspiration from the people she writes about. "Their courage gives me courage," she said.
Tibetan activist and writer Tsering Woeser has written a book about self-immolation protests, with cover art by artist Ai Weiwei Photograph: Bill Smith/EPA
How sick.
Only an abnormal person could feel “inspired” by foolish self-immolators.
And only a depraved mind could write a book glorifying them, thus instigating even more self-immolations.
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True Freedom Fighters:
His Holiness the Dalai Lama and fellow Nobel Peace Laureate Aung San Suu Kyi during their meeting in Prague, Czech Republic, September 15, 2013.
Funny. In my dictionary they appear as “True Western Puppets”.
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There is confidential news recently that Dalai Lama and some top Chinese officials have met in a neutral country in Europe informally under closed doors to talk about the main issues of Tibet and self-immolation of Tibetans which is one of the growing concern of both parties. We hope to hear some positive news arising from the meeting and pray that both parties are able to come to a happy conclusion of long outstanding issues faced by Tibet and China.
These “confidential news” sound more like a hoax attempting to clean a bit the image of the Dalai Lama, so tarnished by his failure to outrightly condemn the self-immolations.
What is most ridiculous about these “news” is that they suggest that the Dalai Lama needs some kind of agreement with or request from the Chinese side in order to give up his sneaky support for the gruesome self-immolations. What a shame for a self-styled Chenrezig!
One would make a fool of oneself expecting some kind of outcome of the delusional ”meeting”.
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There is evidence that, far from condemning these terrible self-immolations, that the CTA with the Dalai Lama's full knowledge and agreement have glorified the self-immolators, treating them like heroes and saints thus actively encouraging it.
More information is available in the book 'the False Dalai Lama' available for free download from thefalsedalailama .com
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There is evidence that, far from condemning these terrible self-immolations, that the CTA with the Dalai Lama's full knowledge and agreement have glorified the self-immolators, treating them like heroes and saints thus actively encouraging it.
Not different from the support given by extremist Muslim clerics to jihadist suicide bombers.
The current “Dalai Lama”, known in his childhood as “the Muslim in robes” because of his Muslim origins, obviously chose the path of extremist terrorrist radical Islam, with his shameless support of self-immolations.
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If the Dalai Lama wanted to stop the self-immolations, then he could make a statement more like that of the 17th Karmapa:
http://www.karmapa.org/news/announcement_self_immolations.htm (http://www.karmapa.org/news/announcement_self_immolations.htm)
I am praying that people will stop the self-immolations and try to keep their precious human lives; enlightenment is much more important than the political status of a country.
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This is an article from truedalailama.com about self-immolations and the Dalai Lama.
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In 1998, a Tibetan man named Thupten Ngodup burned himself alive in New Delhi, initiating the chain of suicides that continues to this day. Now, more than 120 Tibetans have burned themselves alive because of their belief in the Dalai Lama. It is a sad story that many in the western press refuse to cover.
On August 7, 2013 early in the morning around 7am a man set himself on fire in front of Boudhanath, the holiest stupa in Nepal. His name is Karma Nyedon Gyatso, birth name Tenpa Druggyal, 35 years old, father Jamyang Tashi, mother Ugyen. Traditionally Buddhists don’t burn any meat, flesh or even hair in front of stupas for fear of contaminating the blessings of the holy site, which makes this action an even more direct example of how blindly following the Dalai Lama is contaminating the Buddhist religion. Mr. Karma had attended the Kalachakra teaching given by the Dalai Lama in 2012 and did not return to his homeland in Tibet, but chose to stay in Nepal. This was most likely due to what he heard at the initiation where the Dalai Lama convinced Tibetans that they are all suffering in China. If there is prosperity and economic progress he tries to turn it into something negative by creating suspicions about Chinese motives, creating hatred towards the Chinese people.
The Dalai Lama tries to oppress the Tibetan people by keeping them living in conditions much like it was in medieval times. When people fix their homes, schools and other buildings to bring them to a higher level of safety and environmental standards he claims this is due to China’s influence and uses governmental and non-governmental agencies to speak out against them. He rallies the people to boycott companies such as the Holiday Inn when they come to the area, forcing them to leave. In any other country new companies and industries like this are welcomed. The Dalai Lama is against any modern changes people make to improve their quality of life, this way he can remain in control.
A couple of weeks before he burned himself Mr. Karma went to Dharamsala in India, where the Dalai Lama and his organization are located. To anyone who pays attention to the activities of the Dalai Lama and his organization it was predictable that something was going to happen in August of this year, perhaps more Tibetans burning themselves or riots in Lhasa. There was a few months gap where people didn’t burn themselves in Tibet and the Dalai Lama was desperate to start something again. He made an announcement that Aug 1-20 he will go to the town of Ladakh, near the border of Tibet, to meditate for 20 days for the Tibetan cause and asked the Tibetan people to make specific prayers during that time. He claimed that during the previous year when he was visiting the same monastery he saw a vision of a white cloud coming from Tibet and then returning to Tibet and that this was an auspicious sign that he will return to Tibet soon, thereby creating a fantasy and false hope for the Tibetan people. He also had people on the internet and WeChat spreading disinformation about there now being two suns over Ladakh and rainbows appearing over the monastery where he was to meditate. This is how he leads Tibetans through their blind faith.
In mid-July the Department of Information and International Relations sent a letter to all the Tibetan settlements in Nepal, India and throughout the world announcing plans to celebrate on August 8th the two year anniversary of Losang Sangye being in charge of the Dalai Lama’s organization. They also announced that during the celebration there would be prayers for the people who self-immolated, calling them heroes and saints. Obviously Mr. Karma also wanted to be a saint. This was all part of the Dalai Lama’s grand design. The world must know that the Dalai Lama has not spoken out against these acts, in fact he encourages this by organizing huge prayer rallies for them and by promising a better future life.
For example, in 1998, a Tibetan man named Thupten Ngodup burned himself alive in New Delhi, initiating the chain of suicides that continues to this day. The Dalai Lama visited Ngodup in the hospital, showing approval and support for his actions. If that wasn’t enough, after Ngodup’s death the Dalai Lama built a statue of him in Dharamsala. People continue to visit and worship this statue. He has been made a hero and saint to all of the Dalai Lama’s followers.
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On June 5 former Minister and present People’s Deputy Thupten Lungrik wrote an article in all exile newspapers, magazines and websites aimed at me, Sonam Rinchen, and my article of one year ago called “Some Thoughts on Self-Immolations”. This article was written in the Tibetan language. Mr Lungrik compared those self-immolators with Buddha Shakyamuni, calling them heros, and also Buddhas and bodhisattvas. You can still see this article throughout India, Nepal and on the internet. He tried to cover up the Dalai Lama and his organization’s involvement with the self-immolations and yet the article itself encourages and promotes these acts, relating the story of Buddha giving his life to the tigers and many other Buddha and bodhisattva comparisons. I wrote an article in response to all of the editors but I have not yet seen it published anywhere. It is reprinted below.
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Short Answer to address Thubten Lungrik’s article written June 2013 which was published in many newspapers including the Tibetan Times, Tibetan Messenger, Khabda, and others. By Sonam Rinchen
First of all, many of your explanations seem to be supporting my article, proof that I was correct. I am not sure you intended to do that or that you just can’t destroy the truth. You tried to cover up the truth but ended up proving and confirming what I said. In the beginning of the article your argument was that I was criticizing or blaming the self- immolators, but I never criticized or blamed those innocent young Tibetans that burned themselves, I only said they were misled by religious leaders who made them believe they were helping the Tibetan cause. I don’t know what Chinese leaders are saying about this and I don’t need to repeat what the Chinese said. I can come to my own conclusions. If they say the same thing I am saying, it only shows that I am right.
You give the example of Buddha giving his life to save a tiger, but that with compassion. He was not misled by his leader to kill himself for political reasons. The Buddha gave his life so that the tiger and cubs could live. 119 people burned, who did they save? If the Dalai Lama and his organization were dying of hunger like the tiger and cubs and people burned themselves to save them, that might be an excuse. But Dalai Lama and his organization have plenty of food and lots of money. No lives were saved. It is not the same. You can’t compare apples to oranges.
My article also points out that the self-immolations helped HH the Dalai Lama raise more money and increase his fame while it harms Tibetans that live in Tibet. There was no travel ban in Tibet until the self-immolations started. Now it so difficult for travel and movement in Tibet. For safety reasons China has to restrict travel and movement because of fire hazards in public areas that could harm self and others. This makes living more difficult for people in Tibet and as you said many Amdos and Khampas have to go back to their home. Most of all 119 young Tibetans died and their families are grieving. Where is your compassion for them?
Also, self-immolating harms Buddhism since now many people in the world feel that Tibetans no longer trust Buddhist non-violence. People burn themselves and think they go to heaven. In addition to segregating and ostracizing his own people, this is the worst thing the Dalai Lama can do to the Tibetans and to the Buddhist doctrine. It is hard to believe that this is happening in the 21st century.
Self-immolation is not helping the Tibetan cause. Isn’t that what your state oracle Nechung is saying these days? Yes, it is. Further proof that I was right. I was right a year ago, you and Nechung are both late.
You mentioned China’s destruction of monasteries, imprisonment of monks and ban on religion. That was true during the Cultural Revolution, the time of Mao and the Gang of Four. But not only Tibetans suffered during the Cultural Revolution, all Chinese people suffered too. Did any Tibetans self-immolate to protest against Chinese rule back then? The answer is no, because the Dalai Lama was not able to communicate with the Tibetan people back then. There was no Radio Free Asia, no Voice of America, and no other Tibetan language radio. Pilgrims and smugglers were not going back and forth carrying messages. So why are they self-immolating now? The only answer is the encouragement of the Dalai Lama.
As I said in my other article, look and compare the previous and current situation in Tibet. The economic and social situation is actually improving, people have access to health care, education, there is plenty of food, people have economic opportunities, a lot of government funds are spent on preservation of unique Tibetan culture and people exercise religious freedom. For Tibetans in Tibet it has become easier to travel to India. Your article agrees that more Tibetans travel to India for religious pilgrimages, but not to join exile schools. The reason for this is that schools in China are improving and there is no longer a need to go to the Tibetan Children’s Village. This further proves my article is correct.
You say in the article that border control and customs officers are searching people and confiscating illegal things at the border. The whole world does this. Have you never travelled the world before? All countries protect their borders and confiscate illegal articles being brought into the country. Some countries have it written on a card handed to you stating if you bring anything illegal into the country there are immense fines and even prison. This is not only Chinese policy, it is worldwide. What is your complaint?
You also point out there is police brutality in Tibet. Unfortunately every country has this too. How many Tibetans in India have beaten up by Indian police? Did you ever complain or blame the Indian government for this? How about recent events in Dharamsala where a newly arrived young Tibetan man, a kitchen worker for an official of the Dalai Lama’s security department, was arrested and beaten by Indian police for talking back to his boss who was angry because tea was served late. This young man did not speak the Hindi language and was unable to defend himself. Did you write an article about that? What about the 19 year old Tibetan girl in Delhi who was raped by a group of college students and the police are doing nothing but writing a report while Indian media just ignores the news?
Please explain the events described below if it is not encouraging self-immolation:
In 1998, a Tibetan man named Thupten Ngodup burned himself alive in New Delhi, initiating the chain of suicides that continues to this day. The Dalai Lama visited Ngodup in the hospital, showing approval and support for his actions. If that wasn’t enough, after Ngodup’s death the Dalai Lama built a statue of him in Dharamsala. People continue to visit and honor this statue. He has been made a hero to young Tibetans. Since 2008, more than 100 Tibetans have burned themselves alive because of their belief in the Dalai Lama.
In 2010, Tibet suffered one of the worst earthquakes in history. The death toll is estimated to be in the thousands. Chu Zhi Gangdrug organized a large memorial for the dead outside the Dalai Lama’s palace in Dharamsala. Although they pleaded with the Dalai Lama to join, he refused to come. It is hard to imagine what could have been more important than the death of so many Tibetans. Yet, he had time to organize prayers for those who died by self-immolation and read aloud their names and the villages that they came from. After these prayers, more than 100 people burned themselves.
If this is not encouraging self-immolation, then what is the Dalai Lama doing? I don’t have time to write long articles because I am self-employed, I support myself and raise a family, but I will write more things when I have time on rainy days. I will write an article in Tibetan soon.
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Is self-immolation instigated and glorified for Tibetan Causes?
GANNAN PREFECTURE, CHINA — Soon after Sangay Gyatso lit himself on fire and burned to death in one of China's ethnic Tibetan areas, police came knocking on his family's door with questions — and seemingly the answers as well.
Was the fiery suicide of the 27-year-old farmer pre-arranged? Didn't he have connections to foreign-based separatists? Didn't the family get a 3 million yuan ($500,000) reward for the self-burning protest?
A cousin of Sangay Gyatso said his family was asked these questions before the government cast the father of two as an incorrigible thief and womanizer who was goaded into setting himself on fire in an elaborate and cruel scheme to fan up ethnic hatred. He spoke on condition of anonymity because of fear of retaliation.
"It was all nonsense," the cousin, a Tibetan Buddhist monk, said during an interview conducted in his room at a Gannan prefecture community in the rolling hills along the incline toward the Tibetan Plateau. He sat near a stove used for both cooking and heat. A portrait of the Dalai Lama hung from a molding near a window.
In a rare interview conducted in this ethnic Tibetan region, the cousin told The Associated Press the man burned himself Oct. 6, 2012, at a white stupa near his Gannan village, in a personal protest over the lack of rights for Tibetans. He said Sangay Gyatso was not connected to Tibetan groups abroad.
"There are a lot of lies around Sangay Gyatso and around the people who have self-immolated," he said.
Since early 2009, overseas Tibetan rights groups have reported that more than 120 Tibetans — monks and lay people, men and women, and young and elderly — have set themselves on fire. Most died. The groups say the self-immolations are homegrown protests over China's heavy-handed rule in the Himalayan regions.
They are an image problem for Beijing, which first tried to blank out news of self-immolations. After reports continued to leak out, Beijing struck back with accounts of immolators as outcasts who fall prey to the instigation of the Dalai Lama and supporters who allegedly want to split Tibet from China. The Communist Party-controlled media describe the immolators as gamblers, thieves, womanizers, or suffering from life setbacks or physical disabilities.
The Dalai Lama, the Tibetan Buddhist leader who fled to northern India in 1959, has denied any role in the suicides, deplored the loss of lives and demanded that Beijing investigate under the watch of international monitors. He also says he wants autonomous rule, not independence, for Tibet.
Independent reporting in the region is almost impossible because of Beijing's tight controls. Though foreign journalists can travel to Gannan Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture, police closely followed a group of Associated Press reporters on a recent trip, preventing them from interviewing most local Tibetans.
Sangay Gyatso's full story remains elusive because his immediate family members remain hushed. His cousin and people who live nearby advised the AP against traveling to Sangay Gyatso's village, saying government informants prevent the family from speaking out.
Gannan sits on the eastern edge of the Tibetan Plateau but outside the Tibet Autonomous Region. It includes Tibetan Buddhism's holiest place outside Tibet, the Labrang Monastery in the town of Xiahe. Tibetans make up just over half Gannan's population of nearly 700,000, herding sheep and yaks against a mountain backdrop.
On a recent morning in Xiahe, prayer wheels spun and believers threw their bodies to the ground to offer prayers. Monks in maroon robes and herdsmen in fur coats mingled in the streets. Foreign and Chinese tourists browsed colorful scarfs in shops.
In some shops, Dalai Lama portraits were displayed in inconspicuous corners. An elderly shopkeeper said such displays were once strictly banned, but the rule was relaxed this year because it had irked ethnic Tibetans. Before he could say more, a civilian police employee following the AP crew told him to stop talking. Other residents looked nervous when approached and declined to speak.
Sangay Gyatso's cousin described him as "a very normal young Tibetan farmer with a very normal life."
Choe Gyamtso, a monk from Sangay Gyatso's village, defended him in an interview with India-based broadcaster Voice of Tibet. He said Sangay Gyatso was a decent man and that the account of him as a thief and womanizer was a lie.
He also said the Chinese government offered a 1 million yuan reward to Sangay Gyatso's family in exchange for their saying that the man self-immolated over disputes with his wife. He said the family turned down the money.
The cousin could not confirm the government offer, but said local officials had alleged that the family had accepted 3 million yuan from India for the man's self-burning act, which he denied. Officials never made such a claim publicly.
Pressure also came down on monks at the local Dokar Monastery, where Sangay Gyatson self-immolated.
Gannan police said late last year that they detained seven people, including three from the monastery, for their roles in Sangay Gyasto's death, characterized as premeditated homicide. Police said the monks knew about the suicide plan in advance, took photos of the self-immolation and sent them overseas to incite ethnic hatred. It's unclear whether anyone was tried.
For decades, Tibetans have complained of the lack of autonomous rule that was promised by the Communist Party since China's takeover of Tibet in the 1950s, and human rights activists say China has trampled on religious freedom and culture. China says Tibet has belonged to it since ancient times, and that since asserting control in the '50s it has ended serfdom and brought development to a backward region.
In 2008, discontent and ethnic hatred erupted into violent riots across Tibetan regions, including Gannan.
Sangay Gyatso's cousin said local Tibetans are upset over an influx of China's majority Han people, who often get government jobs while Tibetan youth remain unemployed. "We have become a pitiable people that are nobody," he said.
The cousin recalled Sangay Gyatso becoming agitated over what he considered a lack of rights for Tibetans.
"He said he was not capable of doing big things, but said as an individual he could burn himself," the cousin said.
The shocked cousin tried to talk him out of it, but Sangay Gyatso assured him at the time that he was only joking.
After Sangay Gyatso died, his cousin said, "I thought of his words. Oh, he was preparing to do it. ... My heart ached, and I cried."
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What a sacrilege, another Tibetan self-immolates for politics of the CTA when he could have worked towards his enlightenment for all sentient beings which is eternally sustainable and brings tremendous benefit to mankind. CTA should discourage self-immolators and not honour their death to be heroic if they are sincere to their people and mankind.
A 20 year old Tibetan monk has set himself ablaze earlier today in Tibet's Pema County in Golok. A monk of Akyong monastery, Tsering lit himself up in protest against the Chinese government and his hardline policies, the same source said. Engulfed in flames, Tsering collapsed after walking a few metres. Chinese police on street patrol arrived at the scene and doused the fire. Tsering was rushed to the county hospital where he is kept under strict police surveillance.
Tsering is the 123rd Tibetan to set his body ablaze in protest against China since 2009.
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This is sad beyond words. I pray for the good rebirth for all self-immolators.
All this suffering and still the Dalai Lama does nothing. So much for all his empty words about compassion.
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All this suffering and still the Dalai Lama does nothing.
Actually he does a lot. He supports and glorifies self-immolation. That's why he's aptly called a criminal.
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The Dalai Lama said he cannnot stop self-immolations in Tibet and called upon the Chinese to investigate into the real cause. Is the Dalai Lama inferring where his real power lies?
DHARAMSHALA, November 21: The Tibetan spiritual leader Dalai Lama Wednesday said that the self-immolation protests in Tibet are sad and that it was difficult for him to dissuade them. "I can't ask them to act differently because I have nothing to offer them," the Tibetan leader currently on tour to Japan said in his address to around 150 Japanese legislators in Tokyo.
The 1989 Nobel peace laureate said these (self-immolation) events are sad and that it is in protest against the great difficulties they face."These people are prepared to give up their lives, it’s not because they are drunk or beset by domestic problems.”
He called on Chinese authorities to investigate the situation thoroughly to establish why so many Tibet have chosen this path.
Since 2009, 123 Tibetans have set themselves on fire in Tibet protesting against Chinese occupation of Tibet and its hard-line policies.
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By NOT SAYING ANYTHING is just the same as AGREEING and APPROVING of the self-immolations!
I wondered how did these Tibetans gave up on believing in the laws of Karma and their Buddhist faith which never at any point did Lord Buddha say it is justifiable to take ones life for the sake of protesting for a piece of impermanent land? I believe Buddha did say you can give for life for others if necessary and it is with the right motivation to save someone OR to save the Dharma. Never have I ever hear anything about secular life and politics!!!
It is pretty sick how degenerated they've become and really they do not act like Buddhist at all. And to allow this to carry on, is like encouraging more self-immolations! So much wrong views... how depressing... Tibetans are really silly and it shows they cannot think more and beyond! Do they not realise that they are literally destroying their own race and eventually their culture? DO they wish to be extinct???
Those who can think bigger are obviously smarter and they stay alive. They are doing their practices quietly and finding other means and ways to preserved their lineage, culture and heritage. I guess what good are you if you're dead? Silly silly people who die for something they cannot even take with them!
OM MANI PEDME HUM
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November 26: Seven Tibetans including three monks of Jonang Akong monastery have been arrested in Pema County for their alleged links to the recent self immolation protest by a Tibetan youth named Tsering Gyal on November 11.
The seven Tibetans are currently detained in a prison in the County. Due to strict monitoring of all communication facilities, there is no further information about the seven Tibetans.
Tsering Gyal, 20, died after a self immolation protest against Chinese government in Pema County in Golog. Engulfed in flames, Gyal collapsed after walking a few meters towards the County headquarters from a giant lotus made up of concrete at the centre of the town. Chinese police on street patrol arrived at the scene and doused the fire.
Tsering was rushed to the county hospital but he succumbed to his burn injuries on the way to a bigger hospital in Xiling.
Following the self immolation protest by Gyal, a large number of armed forces have been deployed in the Akong monastery campus and nearby areas.
Gyal’s home is also under constant surveillance with local Tibetans visiting his family to pay their last respects being restricted by the Chinese authorities.
The Chinese authorities have issued a notice summoning all the eye witnesses of Gyal’s self immolation protest.
Since 2009, 123 Tibetans have set themselves on fire in Tibet protesting against the China’s occupation of Tibet and its hard-line policies.
The Chinese government vows to respond to the self-immolations with even harsher policies, criminalizing the fiery protests and sentencing scores of people to heavy prison terms on charges of “intentional homicide” for their alleged roles in self-immolation protests. Chinese officials have barred Tibetans from offering prayers and showing solidarity with families of self-immolators and announced cancellation of development funds to those villages where self-immolations have taken place.
China vows to stamp out self-immolations in Tibet. What about you CTA? The least you could do is not to glorify their deaths. The Dalai Lama - why didn't you urge Tibetans like you have urged other nationalities in the globe to be compassionate and exercise patience and works towards enlightenment instead of creating violence. This is the least you can do instead you said you have nothing to offer them and remain silent throughout their horrific and sacrilege deaths. Why???
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Another self-immolation in Tibet which makes the number to 124. What a sacrilege again and again. Isn't it more sustainable for him to work towards enlightenment to benefit many? Precious human rebirth go to waste and without much meaning. Human rebirth is hard to get besides suicide is considered a sin.
DHARAMSHALA, December 4 - A thirty year old Tibetan man has set himself ablaze in Tibet's Meruma town in Ngaba County on Tuesday, a former political prisoner now living here said. Kunchok Tseten shouted slogans demanding the return of exiled Tibetan leader the Dalai Lama and union of Tibetans inside Tibet and exiles. "Long live Gyalwa Tenzin Gyatso, lets unite our brothers here and those in exile", he shouted before collapsing a few metres away.
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Chinese police on routine patrol immediately surrounded him not allowing local Tibetans who were preventing them from taking the charred body away. The police finally took away Kunchok after a few clashes with the police. Tseten's wife Namnang, 28, and a few of his relatives were arrested. A few bystanders involved in manhandling with the police were also arrested.
All businesses in the town were forced to shut down for today as the town wore a deserted look following yesterday's fiery protest by Tseten.
Tseten's brother anticipated this protest. "I can't tolerate the atrocities committed by the Chinese government on us Tibetans, and with all the self immolation by Tibetan brothers and sisters thus far I would one day sacrifice myself by burning myself," his brother recalled Tseten as telling in summer this year.
Tseten lives with his wife and two children, Chakdor Kyab; 4, and Paltsel Kyab; 3.
It is not yet known where Tseten is currently kept or whether he is alive. Tseten became the 124th Tibetan to protest by self immolation since Tapey, a monk of Kirti monastery, set himself ablaze in February 2009.
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The number of self-immolation in Tibet has reached 125 in a tragic death.
Tibetan monk dies of self immolation in Sangchu
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DHARAMSHALA, December 19 - A Tibetan monk of Amchok monastery died after he set himself on fire today in Amchok town, Sangchu County (around 2.30 PM local time).
Undated photo of Tsuiltrim Gyatso who died after setting himself ablaze in Amchok town, Sangchu County, Dec. 19, 2013/file
Undated photo of Tsuiltrim Gyatso who died after setting himself ablaze in Amchok town, Sangchu County, Dec. 19, 2013/file
Tsuiltrim Gyatso, aged 43, is confirmed dead, and his body is at Amchok monastery where around 400 monks are conducting prayers as part of the post death rituals for the deceased, a Tibetan source told phayul.
The handwritten note left behind by Tsuiltrim Gyatso
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According to the Tibet Times, Tsuiltrim had left behind a handwritten note in Tibetan calling for unity amongst Tibetans, return of the exiled Tibetan leader the Dalai Lama and the release of the jailed Panchen Lama Gendun Choekyi Nyima.
Survived by his aged mother Lhamo Kyi his father Tamdin Tashi died several years back.
Tsuiltrim becomes the 125th Tibetan to set himself on fire to protest the Chinese government since 2009.
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Oh dear lord Buddhas... How horrible to see this!
In Buddhism, in Dharma we were taught to cherish our precious human life that is so difficult to get. Yet you see these people who are "suppose" to be Buddhist burning themselves up for their attachments to a piece of land and home? Please can some Buddhist enlighten me how this is all considered "good"?
They are blinded by their attachments and the CTA fuels it further by encouraging them by glorifying each death? Have the CTA and Tibetans gone mad? Definitely you will lose everything once you're extinct... what's there to preserve?
The only way they can ever achieve anything is to become friends with the "enemy". If you really want to create a change, you must first change. With anger and hatred, everything gets destroyed! Be wise not foolish... for nothing is permanent.
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DHARAMSHALA, February 6: A Tibetan man yesterday set himself on fire to protest against China’s occupation of Tibet in Dokarmo town, Tsekhok County, Malho prefecture.
Phagmo Samdup, 27-year-old tantric practitioner (Ngagpa) set himself ablaze near Benchen School in Dokarmo town yesterday around 9.30 PM (local time).
According to exile media reports, minutes after his self-immolation protest, Chinese armed forces took away the charred body. However, it is not known where he has been taken or if he is alive or dead, sources say.
Following his self-immolation protest, situation in the region remains tense with the local Chinese authorities deploying large number of armed security forces. The authorities are strictly monitoring all movements and intercepting communication lines, a Tibetan source said.
Since 2009, 126 Tibetans have set themselves on fire in Tibet to protest against China’s occupation of Tibet and its hard-line policies.
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Ahead of a lengthy two-week tour of the U.S. west coast, the Dalai Lama, the Tibetan spiritual leader, spoke with TIME religion reporter Elizabeth Dias during a wide-ranging, 40-minute interview in Washington D.C. on Wednesday, 19th February.
What would you say to a Tibetan protester who is on the verge of sacrificing himself through self-immolation?
Firstly, this is very, very sad. Human life is very, very precious. This is very, very sensitive political issue. Whatever I say the Chinese hardliners always manipulate. And then, I also retired [several years ago] from political responsibility. So the best thing is to keep quiet.
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Sacrilege No. 128 and 129. They all died in vain for Tibetan independance. Tibetans must be realistic and understand that the Dalai Lama will not be able to return to his homeland this life time. However, the 15th Dalai Lama will return to Tibet under Chinese rule. Why not wait for the 15th Dalai Lama and at the same time be on the path to enlightenment to benefit many which is more meaningful than taking your own lives?
Double self immolation protest marks crackdown anniversary
Phayul[Monday, March 17, 2014 22:59]
DHARAMSHALA, MARCH 17: Another Tibetan monk has immolated himself outside his monastery in Tsekhog County, Malho Prefecture, on Sunday, that saw double self immolation protests in Tibet.
A monk whose name is not yet known carried out the protest around 7.30 AM (local time) on Sunday. He was a monk of Sonag monastery in Jhador township in Tsekhog. As of now, it is not known if he is alive or dead.
Sources say that the authorities immediately cut down all communication lines including all micro-messaging apps to ensure that the news and pictures if any were not sent out.
Lobsang Palden, another Tibetan monk immolated himself at the 'Pawoe Sanglam' (Martyr's Street) in Ngaba town on Sunday, which marked six years since a brutal crackdown by armed Chinese forces on Tibetan protesters leading to the death of at least ten Tibetans including a monk in Ngaba.
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Lobsang Palden a monk of Kirti monastery in his early twenties
March 16, 2014 marks the sixth year since protests by Tibetans in Ngaba in 2008 when several Tibetans died, were tortured or imprisoned in the run up to the Beijing Olympics. Three monks of Kirti monastery had died since 2011 by setting their bodies on fire on the same date (March 16) at the same spot which began to be known as 'Pawoe Sanglam' (Martyr's Street). They were Lobsang Phuntsok (2011), Lobsang Tsuiltrim (2012), and Lobsang Thokmay (2013).
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Ahead of a lengthy two-week tour of the U.S. west coast, the Dalai Lama, the Tibetan spiritual leader, spoke with TIME religion reporter Elizabeth Dias during a wide-ranging, 40-minute interview in Washington D.C. on Wednesday, 19th February.
What would you say to a Tibetan protester who is on the verge of sacrificing himself through self-immolation?
Firstly, this is very, very sad. Human life is very, very precious. This is very, very sensitive political issue. Whatever I say the Chinese hardliners always manipulate. And then, I also retired [several years ago] from political responsibility. So the best thing is to keep quiet.
This is an total loss to HHDL!
It means as an spiritual leader, HHDL, facing a guy determined to set himself in fire, would not simply say 'no' to him(what we expect an uneducated village woman would cry out), but recite 'our precious human life' in Lamrim, and let him go. All because his setting himself in fire is due to an political reason, so he dare not say no....
This is unacceptable!
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The evil dalai said:
"I can't ask them [the self-immolators] to act differently
Here the evil dalai makes crystal clear his full support for, and shameless instigation of, self-immolations.
And there are still people who call such a inimaginably cold-hearted, gruesome criminal ”His Holiness”, ”Chenrezig”, and the like!
Not only this, there are even people who propose to cover such realities, so as not to ”tarnish” the image of the bestial assassin!
because I have nothing to offer them”
Specially no Dharma to offer them. This is because, as vow-breaker, he has no lineage, or rather, he does have the lineage of stinking genocidal tyrants, those who fill up the putrid garbage bin of history, which is where he will rotten rather sooner than later.
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Oh Lord Dorje Shugden, please extend your divine help to these self-immolaters and self-immolaters to be. Please bestow on them the wisdom to seeing that their sacrifice of their precious human bodies for politics is meaningless and is sinful. They should instead use their precious human bodies on a zealous path to enlightenment to become beneficial to sentient beings.
Tibetan nun immolates self in Kham Bathang
Phayul[Sunday, March 30, 2014 05:33]
DHARAMSHALA, March 30: A Tibetan nun immolated herself in Tibet’s Bathang County in the traditional Tibetan province of Kham on Saturday around 3PM (Local Time), sources said.
The nun whose self immolation protest took place near Ba Choede monastery was spotted by local Tibetans on their routine circumambulation. The local residents doused the flames and took her to a nearby hospital. Chinese government officials including the police arrived at the hospital and sealed it prohibiting more Tibetans who had gathered at the hospital to enter.
The local Chinese administration immediately stepped up security in and around the county blocking all communication lines including micromessaging apps and monitoring movement of people. “There has been a self immolation protest by a Tibetan nun but due to restrictions immediately imposed the details are not yet known,” a Tibetan member of parliament, Bawa Kelsang Gyaltsen was quoted by the Tibet Times as saying.
This is 130th self immolation protest in Tibet since 2009.
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Article reveals truth behind Dalai Lama's vague remarks:
BEIJING, May 20 (Xinhua) -- The ambiguous answer by the 14th Dalai Lama to media questions on his role in stopping self-immolation by Tibetans revealed his attempt to sacrifice lives for "Tibet independence," according to a signed Chinese-language article released Tuesday.
"Behind the 14th Dalai Lama's vague words," penned by Qi Xuan, referred to foreign media reports that, during a recent visit to Norway, the 14th Dalai Lama made vague comments such as "this is a very sensitive issue," eschewing a reporter's question on whether he had urged a halt to Tibetans' self-immolations.
Tuesday's article stressed that Tibetan Buddhism clearly opposes killing and suicide, but recent years, especially between September 2012 and the first half of 2013, had seen a string of self-immolations committed by Tibetans in some Tibetan-inhabited areas in the Chinese provinces of Sichuan, Gansu and Qinghai.
Meanwhile, the Dalai Lama clique took advantage of these tragedies, it said, citing a conference held in September 2012 during which the clique honored the self-immolation acts and vowed to set up memorials and funds for victims in a bid to boost the influence of such acts across the world.
According to the article, the clique claimed that self-immolation wouldn't stop unless Tibet became "independent" and the Dalai Lama returned.
"While international society and all kind and righteous people mourned these lost lives, the 14th Dalai Lama publicly touted these victims' passion and courage, stressing the importance of actions rather than prayers," it said.
The Dalai Lama clique was forced into a corner as the Chinese government brought those instigating self-immolations to punishment by the law, and both domestic and overseas people began to realize the truth behind these incidents, the article said.
"Maybe the reporter asked the question initially to pin a medal on the 14th Dalai Lama for stopping self-immolation, but he didn't dare to answer directly," it said. "Because deep in his heart, he wanted to sacrifice grassroots Tibetans, especially those innocent youngsters, for his own political ends."
According to the article, the 14th Dalai Lama also reportedly said that acts of self-immolation, in some cases, were "not entirely wrong," which might be fairly interpreted as saying self-immolation for the sake of "Tibet independence" is right.
"He didn't dare to say more, fearing that the truth would come out," it said.
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Over a hundred Tibetans died in vain. Wouldn't it be more meaningful and beneficial had their precious human body zealously practised the dharma to become enlightened to benefit numberless beings? To the enlightened beings there is no difference between 'you' and 'I', no 'mine' and 'yours' and space has no boundaries. Hence, there is no 'my Tibet, my country. If only we can understand this concept.
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In The Hindu's exclusive interview with Dr. Lobsang Sangay, Sikyong or Leader of the self-styled "Tibetan Parliament in-exile", I find the comments on the issue on Tibetan self immolations as cold and heartless. It is clearly these violent deaths are CTA's propaganda.
What about the future of the Tibetan movement in India…will it stick to non-violence, given the increase in immolations and protests?
Non-violence is an uncompromising part of our way. This will always be our official policy. At the local level, some amount of anger and tension may be expected. But Tibetans in India have always been law-abiding and peaceful. Because India has done the most for Tibetans, so we are eternally grateful. We must remember we are guests, and behave as honourable guests. In China, Tibetans are less than half a percent of the Chinese population….so non-violence isn’t just wise, it is the most logical policy to have. Even when you speak of the self-immolations, not a single Chinese person or property has been harmed. These Tibetans are dying violent deaths, but it is not a violent act, as no one else is hurt.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/tibetan-prime-ministerinexile-speaks-to-suhasini-haider-in-an-exclusive-interview-with-the-hindu/article6393584.ece (http://www.thehindu.com/news/tibetan-prime-ministerinexile-speaks-to-suhasini-haider-in-an-exclusive-interview-with-the-hindu/article6393584.ece)
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Ah, the true CTA double speak logic! It is non-violent if it harms only one person! Wrong, when does one Buddhist person losing their precious human life not harm all living beings. I am sorry, it makes me so sad to see these misguided people sacrificing their lives for literally.... nothing. The Dalai Lama has already sold them out to China, so it is not like they are going to really affect change, but if if they could, as Buddhists, we really don't resort to loosing our precious human rebirth over the independence of our country, or anything else--- not on purpose. We are Buddhist, we can make our lives meaningful; instead of trying to self-immolate, we could do a long Vajarasattva retreat or other Buddhist practice (like Shugden is good, but I guess these guys don't do Shugden if they are dying in vain for the Dalai Lama who banned our practice). So it would be better, instead of loosing their life, to please go instead to retreat and practice, dedicating the merit to the purification of the karmas of all living beings; this would help Tibet and everyone else. Once they are gone, then how will they practice? We have bad karma in samsara, sometimes. We are all subject to the karma of birth old age sickness and death until we are liberated, so why not spend the rest of our years (or at least the next few) in solitary retreat--- say the Mani or Vajrasattva for all living beings, don't kill yourself.... it would be so much for beneficial for Tibet and the whole world if anyone who is thinking of self-immolation would chant heartfelt pujas/mantras instead. Please, Dorje Shugden and Avalokiteshvara, may they stop self-immolating. (Both Karmapas advise against it--- whichever one you like, just think, Chenresig (Karmapa) said not to self-immolate). http://www.karmapa.org/news/announcement_self_immolations.htm (http://www.karmapa.org/news/announcement_self_immolations.htm)
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Well said Blueupali, I am in complete agreement with you. Here's what the Chinese reported of the Dalai Lama in regard to this issue:
Article reveals truth behind Dalai Lama's vague remarks
(Xinhua) 21:13, May 20, 2014
BEIJING, May 20 -- The ambiguous answer by the 14th Dalai Lama to media questions on his role in stopping self-immolation by Tibetans revealed his attempt to sacrifice lives for "Tibet independence," according to a signed Chinese-language article released Tuesday.
"Behind the 14th Dalai Lama's vague words," penned by Qi Xuan, referred to foreign media reports that, during a recent visit to Norway, the 14th Dalai Lama made vague comments such as "this is a very sensitive issue," eschewing a reporter's question on whether he had urged a halt to Tibetans' self-immolations.
Tuesday's article stressed that Tibetan Buddhism clearly opposes killing and suicide, but recent years, especially between September 2012 and the first half of 2013, had seen a string of self-immolations committed by Tibetans in some Tibetan-inhabited areas in the Chinese provinces of Sichuan, Gansu and Qinghai.
Meanwhile, the Dalai Lama clique took advantage of these tragedies, it said, citing a conference held in September 2012 during which the clique honored the self-immolation acts and vowed to set up memorials and funds for victims in a bid to boost the influence of such acts across the world.
According to the article, the clique claimed that self-immolation wouldn't stop unless Tibet became "independent" and the Dalai Lama returned.
"While international society and all kind and righteous people mourned these lost lives, the 14th Dalai Lama publicly touted these victims' passion and courage, stressing the importance of actions rather than prayers," it said.
The Dalai Lama clique was forced into a corner as the Chinese government brought those instigating self-immolations to punishment by the law, and both domestic and overseas people began to realize the truth behind these incidents, the article said.
"Maybe the reporter asked the question initially to pin a medal on the 14th Dalai Lama for stopping self-immolation, but he didn't dare to answer directly," it said. "Because deep in his heart, he wanted to sacrifice grassroots Tibetans, especially those innocent youngsters, for his own political ends."
According to the article, the 14th Dalai Lama also reportedly said that acts of self-immolation, in some cases, were "not entirely wrong," which might be fairly interpreted as saying self-immolation for the sake of "Tibet independence" is right.
"He didn't dare to say more, fearing that the truth would come out," it said.
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I personally do not support this kind of action, this is also considering as committing suicide although the intention may be on freeing the Dorje Shugden ban and also getting back religious freedom. No matter what happens, we do not have the right to threaten someone else with our lives, what about our parents who have been feeding and raising us for so many years? As long as there's a will, there's always a way.