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About Dorje Shugden => General Discussion => Topic started by: donoharm on November 06, 2012, 04:06:36 PM
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First of all, His Holiness Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche's Teaching in Italy and Austria recently was just Amazing.. At the end of his teachings in both Italy and Austria, I was very shocked to hear him speak of Kybje Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo Importance. His Holiness Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche Said everyone should respect Kybje Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo. and all our Buddhist Centers should work on inviting him and receive teaching from him. He also mentioned things should be like how they where in previous lives or in the past. I also found out they are very close in this life... Bravo!!
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It's so wonderful to read that His Holiness Trijang Rinpoche is turning the wheel of dharma now, and that he adviced everyone the importance of His Holiness Pabongka Rinpoche. All Gelug lamas and their students have directly or indirectly received their teachings from these holy beings. They are our lineage masters.
What will be of Gelug if we don't respect His Holiness Pabongka Rinpoche, who is one with Heruka? What will be of Gelug if we don't respect His Holiness Trijang Rinpoche, who is one with Vajrayogini? The lineage blessing will be gone if we throw away all these.
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Everyone should work on inviting him ! :)
He is our Spiritual Grandfather ( Or older ) and we should keep him inseparable from our Guru's at all times :)
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All the lineage lamas come back to continue turning the wheel of dharma – HH Trijang Rinpoche is back, HH Pabongkha Rinpoche is back, HH Zong Rinpoche is back… Lama Yeshe is back… Dagpo Rinpoche is back…
If Dorje Shugden was evil, surely all those who did his practice would be in hell by now. Instead, they are back and this young generation of masters are beginning to manifest their attainments. I love HH Pabongkha Rinpoche’s commentary on the lamrim as presented by HH Trijang Rinpoche in the classic, Liberation in the palm of your hand. It would be amazing to see HH Pabongkha Rinpoche again in this life…
All Dorje Shugden practitioners and Gelugpas should know Pabongkha Rinpoche’s biography well in order to appreciate his greatness.
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/great-masters/recent-masters/pabongka-rinpoche-wikipedia/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/great-masters/recent-masters/pabongka-rinpoche-wikipedia/) is a good start. In this article, Pabongkha Rinpoche’s qualities are praised by so many – how can he be such a great master but be wrong about Dorje Shugden?
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Well if Je Pabongka even could develop any samsaric thought in his mindstream he would still be in the 3 lower realms. But je Pabongka is now working hard again to spread buddha dharma. Many deluded beings have accused him of being sectarian, how ridiculous and small minded. The current Je Pabongka is magnificent in all sense of the word.
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Kyabje Chocktrul Rinpoche certainly walks the talk. In reference to what he has said about Pabongka Rinpoche, Kyabje Chocktrul Rinpoche will continue turning the wheel of dharma after his stint in Europe, specifically on the lineage that Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo is perhaps best known for.
A notice on Trijang Buddhist Institute's website states that on November 16th,17th and 18th, Trijang Rinpoche will be giving teachings on the Lamrim continuing from the previous year's teachings, based on non other than "Liberation in the palm of your Hand".
What will the CTA do now, in light of this recent announcement, I wonder?
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It is such great honor to invite the lineage masters to give teachings again :) We have so much merit to be alive and hear the teachings from living Buddhas! :) Even hearing of the news brings tremendous blessings. For people who are new to Buddhism it is a wonderful opportunity now to learn about the biography of their past lives to gain a better understanding of the spread of Buddhism in the past by these lineage masters and how it will happen again in this modern technological age. We will see how Buddhas are pervasive and can bring tremendous benefits to all sentient beings no matter what age.
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First of all, His Holiness Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche's Teaching in Italy and Austria recently was just Amazing.. At the end of his teachings in both Italy and Austria, I was very shocked to hear him speak of Kybje Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo Importance. His Holiness Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche Said everyone should respect Kybje Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo. and all our Buddhist Centers should work on inviting him and receive teaching from him. He also mentioned things should be like how they where in previous lives or in the past. I also found out they are very close in this life... Bravo!!
Wow! If this information is correct, I think Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche senses that the ban is coming to an end very soon. I think he is preparing people subtly right now for the ban to be lifted and to usher in a new era of Dorje Shugden. I know I don't have concrete proof right now but it does offer a pretty plausible explanation of the ban on Dorje Shugden.
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Kyabje Chocktrul Rinpoche certainly walks the talk. In reference to what he has said about Pabongka Rinpoche, Kyabje Chocktrul Rinpoche will continue turning the wheel of dharma after his stint in Europe, specifically on the lineage that Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo is perhaps best known for.
A notice on Trijang Buddhist Institute's website states that on November 16th,17th and 18th, Trijang Rinpoche will be giving teachings on the Lamrim continuing from the previous year's teachings, based on non other than "Liberation in the palm of your Hand".
What will the CTA do now, in light of this recent announcement, I wonder?
The CTA can do nothing to HH Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche. At least outwardly. I have heard disturbing rumours that there have been threats on HH Trijang Rinpoche’s life though. I am at loath to believe the rumours but the person who I heard it from would not have made it up. What I find completely abhorrent is that what reason could there be to murder HH Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche? If it is political, the only plausible reason would be that he is a Dorje Shugden practitioner. As far as I know, Trijang Rinpoche has been staying low profile because of political reasons and because he did not want to become the poster boy for Dorje Shugden. Yet people are purportedly still after him. If it is the CTA behind it, that would be really quite sick.
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Wow! Wow! Wow! H.H. Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche in the midst of his turning of the wheel of Dharma in Europe, tells everyone that we "should respect Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo and all our Buddhist Centers should work on inviting him and receiving teachings from him". Amazing indeed that the heart son continues his devotion to his much loved Guru in this lifetime. And to express this devotion further, he will be teaching 'Liberation in The Palm of Your Hand' , the classic 24 day Lamrim teachings of HH Pabongka Rinpoche in 1921.
Undoubtedly, HH Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche and HH Pabongka Choktrul Rinpoche will come together again to spread and grow Je Tsongkapa's Lineage teachings everywhere. Together with them will be other Great Gelug Masters who have returned including HH Zong Rinpoche. When the ban on Shugden practice is lifted, they will surely herald in the renaissance of Buddhism, powered by the King Protector!
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He also mentioned things should be like how they where in previous lives or in the past.
It is pure joy for me to hear Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche say that about Pabongka Rinpoche. And that things should be as they were in the past.
In the past, in Tushita, Dorje Shugden himself expounded the Protector practice and gave oral transmission to Tagpu Rinpoche who passed it on whole and in its entirety to Pabongka Rinpoche. And Pabonka Rinpoche taught and propagated Dorje Shugden's practice extensively, and also gave the responsibility to preserve and spread the same teachings to Trijang Rinpoche. Trijang Rinpoche had no doubt that Dorje Shugden was Sonbhogakaya Buddha who manifested in ordinary form out of compassion.
Trijang Rinpoche did much to spread the practice and gave it also to the His Holiness The Dalai Lama.
In the past Dorje Shugden was widely recognized and openly hailed as the Uncommon Protector King of Lama Tsongkhapa's perfect teachings. And now, as Wisdom Being pointed out, all the great Masters and lineage holders of Dorje Shugden's practice are all back.
I take Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche's message to be extremely auspicious and the harbinger of the great things to come. That and HH Trijang Rinpoche's timely return to turn the wheel of Dharma.
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We should rejoice in the revival and flourishing of Dharma! It is only logical that all disciples show reverence and respect to their spiritual guides or gurus. HH Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche is showing the example of proper guru devotion.
How could those who are anti-shugden and yet remain as Gelugpas not showing respect to Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo? Without Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo, we would not have received the complete transmission of Lamrim as documented by Trijang Rinpoche!
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It is indeed joyous news that His Holiness Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche is turning the Dharma Wheel again and i believe this augers well for the ban against Dharmapala Dorje Shugden. The stage is set for the return of the King . This is really exciting and we should all make the conscious efforts to pave the way for all the lineage masters to turn the Dharma wheel in our respective countries. As was mentioned earlier :
"His Holiness Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche Said everyone should respect Kybje Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo. and all our Buddhist Centers should work on inviting him and receive teaching from him. He also mentioned things should be like how they where in previous lives or in the past."
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I also wonder if this means that Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche is planning to be part of re-establishing the past? I actually think he is planning that or he wouldn't be talking and promoting Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche so much. I think it would be great if Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche is invited to Europe and elsewhere.
I think when the ban comes down, hopefully by the Dalai Lama himself lifting the ban and these great Lamas can immediately start to go travel around in order to promote Dorje Shugden to the world. I am sure the results would be spectacular and a lot of people will come to the Dharma because of these great Lamas and also via Dorje Shugden practice.
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This is incredible! I lift up my heart and rejoice to hear of the meeting of great minds once again in this life. But of course Trijang Rinpoche should commend the teachings of Pabongka Rinpoche whose previous life was his own previous life's root teacher. In reality, they are equals of course, working together to sustain the lineage. It is by Pabongka Rinpoche's kindness that Trijang Rinpoche was able to receive all the teachings and lineages that are still being upheld and shared with practitioners the world over today. It was then by Trijang Rinpoche's kindness, in escaping Tibet to reestablish the teachings and Dharma institutions in Dharma, from where everything continues to grow now.
The new incarnations of these two great lamas bravely continue to uphold the teachings now, in a time and place where it is dangerous for them to even be seen - because of their Dorje Shugden practice. In both this and their previous lifetimes, the success of their teachings arose out of tremendous obstacles. The previous Pabongka Rinpoche met with much opposition from "mainstream" lamas, including the Dalai Lama who were skeptical of the Southern Lamrim tradition he was trying to promote. The previous Trijang Rinpoche experienced many people cheating him and even attempting to take his life. Both incarnations continue to face tremendous opposition for their association with Dorje Shugden; even their sponsorship suffers and they have had to live much of their young lives in hiding. This is what the greatest lamas of our time will endure, for the sake of bringing the blessings and practices to all of us.
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First of all, His Holiness Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche's Teaching in Italy and Austria recently was just Amazing.. At the end of his teachings in both Italy and Austria, I was very shocked to hear him speak of Kybje Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo Importance. His Holiness Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche Said everyone should respect Kybje Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo. and all our Buddhist Centers should work on inviting him and receive teaching from him. He also mentioned things should be like how they where in previous lives or in the past. I also found out they are very close in this life... Bravo!!
This is certainly an uplifting news to read!!! And just like in the past they were both powerful Dharma Masters of the century and it is no surprise that as they mature older, the wheel of Dharma turns just like in the past. And it is just perfect timing as the ban slowly a subtly becomes more and more weak because people are not putting up with it, it's illogical and tiring!
Trijang Rinpoche begins teaching more and more now and we begin to hear Him promote His Guru, our lineage father, the illustrious one Je Pabongkha Rinpoche. Wow, so exciting to watch how all this slowly unveils! Super super exciting.. it seems like "the great legacy" of these two great master spreading the Dharma will come alive again like in the past. I just hope that I will be around to receive their teachings/blessings one day, alas witnessing/hearing about it is also a great blessing already.
The great part is there is nothing the CTA can do... because both Rinpoches' are not under the CTA's ruling, they are citizens of another country and is not associated to the Tibetan in Exile in any formal official papers, as they are no longer connected to them.
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First of all, His Holiness Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche's Teaching in Italy and Austria recently was just Amazing.. At the end of his teachings in both Italy and Austria, I was very shocked to hear him speak of Kybje Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo Importance. His Holiness Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche Said everyone should respect Kybje Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo. and all our Buddhist Centers should work on inviting him and receive teaching from him. He also mentioned things should be like how they where in previous lives or in the past. I also found out they are very close in this life... Bravo!!
Wow, HH Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche recommends that all Buddhist Centres should work on inviting Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche to teach. This is marvellous news. Coming from the mouth of a great master that another great master is great should not be taken lightly.
Considering the Previous Pabongka Rinpoche gave the Lamrim Teachings for 24 days, teaching the Liberation in the palm of your hands in concise form and easy to understand and apply. The previous Trijang Rinpoche on the other hand has written out the teachings and put into a book. Now, they are back to teach the world Buddhism and continue to turn the Dharma wheel.
So, the claim that Dorje Shugden is a spirit is untrue because we see that these great masters who are Dorje Shugden practitioners come back to teach. How could this be if DS is a spirit as claimed by the Dalai Lama. IF that is the case, these masters would already be in the 3 lower realms.
You have your take.
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First of all, His Holiness Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche's Teaching in Italy and Austria recently was just Amazing.. At the end of his teachings in both Italy and Austria, I was very shocked to hear him speak of Kybje Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo Importance. His Holiness Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche Said everyone should respect Kybje Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo. and all our Buddhist Centers should work on inviting him and receive teaching from him. He also mentioned things should be like how they where in previous lives or in the past. I also found out they are very close in this life... Bravo!!
Got a recording of the quote? ;D itll be very uplifting and encouraging for DS practitioners everywhere to hear the guru of gurus say this from his own precious mouth.
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True practise of Guru devotion and humility, asking everyone to respect Kybje Pabongkha Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo. Shows how highly Trijang Rinpoche regards his guru, even in this present life. I find it very cool how Pabongkha Rinpoche and Trijang Rinpoche were together in their previous lives, and in this life, they are in the same era again, propagating the Dharma. Pabongkha Rinpoche, Trijang Rinpoche and Zong Rinpoche, the 3 highly esteemed and illustrious gurus are at their prime age to bring the Dharma to many in this day and age. Boddhisattvas will always come back to liberate all sentient beings, and work alongside one another to uphold and spread the Dharma.
It is time for Dorje Shugden to spread all over the world! I am so happy to know that Trijang Rinpoche has begun to turn the wheel of Dharma, and soon, Zong Rinpoche and Pabongkha Rinpoche too, hopefully!
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I cant wait for the teachings to be put online! It would be amazing to just watch Trijang Rinpoche give teachings, the current incarnation who is a layman yet none of his attainments and qualifications are lacking! Notice how CTA's silly ban does not reach europe and they have no control or influence over what happens there. The ban only affects those in Dharamsala. Cant wait for Pabongkha Rinpoche to come out, followed by Zong Rinpoche!