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Title: China's 'Twitter' Now Two Times Bigger Than Twitter Tweets about Dorje Shugden
Post by: icy on March 31, 2012, 03:26:53 AM

Weibo" (??)China-based microblogging services like Twitter, has became the biggest online sensation in China. About 250 million Chinese internet users, or nearly half of China’s online population of 513 million, signed up on Weibo.

Recently China celebrity Professor Kong Qingdong tweeted on his tweeter on March 23, he has 794,948 tweeter friends, and his tweet about Dorje Shugden has 949 retweets, and 188 comments:

"Just received Dorje Shugden materials from friends in Singapore. I express my gratitude! The world population must unite together to preserve religious freedom, faith freedom, speech freedom, and tirelessly working towards the true, kind, and virtuous state of world peace!" ~Professor Quindong

With iconic personalities like Professor Quindong tweeting about DS, I dare say it is certain Dorje Shugden will arouse curiosity and knowlege for it to spread like wild fire.  This is the most simple, creative and swift way of spreading DS in a hugely populated country of China. This iconic tweet has effected a viral spread on DS.  Dorje Shugden is fast becoming popular, chic, cultural and a world peace protector.


 
 
 

Title: Re: China's 'Twitter' Now Two Times Bigger Than Twitter Tweets about Dorje Shugden
Post by: Tenzin Gyatso on March 31, 2012, 09:05:32 AM

This just reaches the Chinese. It will not reach anyone else. What good does that do? There's no large or powerful Tibetan Buddhist organization in the Chinese speaking world which clearly identifies the Chinese aren't interested. You have to hit the non-Chinese speaking world. No one is tweeting about Shugden. They trust HHDL.

Title: Re: China's 'Twitter' Now Two Times Bigger Than Twitter Tweets about Dorje Shugden
Post by: biggyboy on March 31, 2012, 02:35:44 PM

Quote from: Tenzin Gyatso on March 31, 2012, 09:05:32 AM

This just reaches the Chinese. It will not reach anyone else. What good does that do? There's no large or powerful Tibetan Buddhist organization in the Chinese speaking world which clearly identifies the Chinese aren't interested. You have to hit the non-Chinese speaking world. No one is tweeting about Shugden. They trust HHDL.

I would commend and rejoice on Professor Kong Qingdong's effort to have tweeted DS! At least for a start DS is tweeted in China. Who knows it may trigger someone there to read on and with the hope that their views would change along the way and faith would increase.  It will definitely spread like fire with such big populations.  Where else in this world would have such great population to say the least. In addition, Twitter, Facebook and YouTube are banned in China.

Professor Kong Qingdong has a reputation for speaking in a forthright manner, and does not hesitate to use profanity on his television show or blogs to advance his point and provoke strong reactions.  Hmm...he may provoke the curiosity of the Chinese mind.

May Dorje Shugden to stay in China and spread wide and fast.

Title: Re: China's 'Twitter' Now Two Times Bigger Than Twitter Tweets about Dorje Shugden
Post by: Poonlarp on March 31, 2012, 04:49:30 PM

This is definitely a good news!!!

Although Professor Quindong is not a super idol that have tons of fans, he is a very famous speaker for his direct and sharp speech regards current issues. I heard a lots of people who watch his videos scolded him for being too direct in criticizing some issues, but this also draw more attention to him to make him a celebrity speaker.

He also calls himself as Kong He Sang, it means Kong, the monk. This also raise a lot of controversial as he is not a monk and has a family. His explanation is the main job of a monk is to benefit others, to save people from suffering. He says doing job as a monk is not about having family or not, it's about your motivation. His speech definitely agreed and admired by certain people that raises his fans number in Weibo.

Title: Re: China's 'Twitter' Now Two Times Bigger Than Twitter Tweets about Dorje Shugden
Post by: Big Uncle on March 31, 2012, 05:22:01 PM

It is nice that outspoken people like this Professor know about Dorje Shugden so he can spread the news far and wide. It is through these people that will bring awareness to the plight of Dorje Shugden practitioners throughout the world. Once more and more people know about Dorje Shugden, it will build a momentum that will eventually topple the ban on Dorje Shugden.

Besides, this Professor being Chinese and in China could bring tremendous awareness towards the ban in China. Just because the Chinese are anti-Dalai Lama doesn't necessarily mean they are pro-Dorje Shugden either. They just have their vested interest in this matter to further their own cause. Whatever it is, bringing awareness of Dorje Shugden will contribute towards bringing the ban down I feel. 

Title: Re: China's 'Twitter' Now Two Times Bigger Than Twitter Tweets about Dorje Shugden
Post by: kris on March 31, 2012, 05:50:15 PM

WeiBo, literary means "micro blog", i.e. Twitter alike, is something very BIG in China for quite awhile already.

I rejoice that Professor Quindong has openly expressed his views on religious freedom and more importantly, his openness in talking about Dorje Shugden in this WeiBo. With that much of retweet and comments, I am sure the King Dorje Shugden will be spread wide and far.

It also means that we should spend quality time on social media to spread the King. Don't waste the time on just Facebook alone :)

Also, great job people who sent the Dorje Shugden materials to him.

Title: Re: China's 'Twitter' Now Two Times Bigger Than Twitter Tweets about Dorje Shugden
Post by: DSFriend on March 31, 2012, 06:13:29 PM

Amazing!

Amazing on a few levels..

1. Free distribution of dorje shugden materials are sent all over the world to educate others re our Protector, religious freedom and harmony. Now, this has got to take incredible devotion towards the Protector for anyone to do this don't you think?

2. The impact towards others and one of whom is Professor Quindong...all it takes is just a spark to light up the whole forest. Now, i pray that Professor Quindong and the many others will act as sparks to light up their circle of influence to spread the Protector and Buddha Dharma.

3. The power of social media!

Title: Re: China's 'Twitter' Now Two Times Bigger Than Twitter Tweets about Dorje Shugden
Post by: Barzin on April 01, 2012, 08:15:35 AM

You see personally I do not know the Dorje Shugden movement in China.  But we heard many news about Dorje Shugden statues and temples and practice is spreading in China.  The piece of news the Wen Jia bao meeting Panchen Lama is a sign that Tibetan Buddhism is well accepted in China.  By people sending free Dorje Shugden materials is actually creating a cause to plant seeds into their mind (afterall he is Manjushri) and to create awareness about the truth of the ban.  People will read up, do research and eventually come to terms with the truth.  Not only it unites different sec of Buddhism on one issue, the disharmony among the Sanghas and most important highlighted disharmony among the Buddhists.  It is possible that Dorje Shugden in days to come to be one of the practice well accepted in every part and sec in the world of Buddhism.  Just like Chenrizeg, or Kuan Yin, the compassionate Buddha in various form who is well accepted in every part of the world.

Time will tell.  The truth will soon be told.  Dorje Shugden might be wrathful looking but he is the chosen one for our time.  Hence, the compassionate emanation of Avalokiteshvara His Holiness Dalai Lama creates the ban, if I may say, spread Dorje Shugden the compassionate one to many and not just solely the Tibetans.  I rejoice in China's effort to spread dharma in this very modern way. 

Title: Re: China's 'Twitter' Now Two Times Bigger Than Twitter Tweets about Dorje Shugden
Post by: DharmaDefender on April 01, 2012, 08:33:44 AM

Quote from: Tenzin Gyatso on March 31, 2012, 09:05:32 AM

This just reaches the Chinese. It will not reach anyone else. What good does that do? There's no large or powerful Tibetan Buddhist organization in the Chinese speaking world which clearly identifies the Chinese aren't interested. You have to hit the non-Chinese speaking world. No one is tweeting about Shugden. They trust HHDL.

Mate such shortsightedness. Let me put it this way - China and its 1.6 billion people have absolutely no knowledge of Dorje Shugden whatsoever. So Dorje Shugden has a blank slate on which to make an impression.

Hahaha I find it a little ironic - the Phayul trolls are always accusing Dorje Shugden practitioners of accepting Chinese money, being on the Communist payroll etc. Talk about self-fulfilling prophecy. If the 6 million Tibetans dont want him, no worries. Theres always the rest of the world, and that includes Chinas third of the worlds population.

As I see it, its a matter of time anyway that Dorje Shugden returns to China, given he was a Chinese emperor in his past life, and also Manjusri who resides on a Chinese mountain.

Title: Re: China's 'Twitter' Now Two Times Bigger Than Twitter Tweets about Dorje Shugden
Post by: pgdharma on April 01, 2012, 10:47:01 AM

Good news! I rejoice that Professor Quindong has openly expressed his gratitude of receiving Dorje Shugden materials and his views on religious freedom. From this one tweet, it will be retweeted by the many Chinese people or his followers and it will spread like wild fire. By creating awareness of Dorje Shugden through website, twitter, face book or any social media will contribute towards the lifting of the ban.

We should also be thankful to the people who sent Dorje Shugden materials to Professor Quindong.

 

Title: Re: China's 'Twitter' Now Two Times Bigger Than Twitter Tweets about Dorje Shugden
Post by: VS on April 01, 2012, 12:10:09 PM

A big thank you to the team who has been forever so hard working towards the cause of creating awareness for Dorje Shugden practice and sending out DS material planting seeds in the mind of people and creating causes for the lifting of the ban.

Yes, 'weibao' may only be for China but China has the biggest population in the world, accounting for approximately 20% of the world's population and the Chinese are so deprived of information from the outside world not by their choice.

Thanks to the team's effort, DS materials has reached Professor Quindong who has tweeted on his tweeter and create a 'wave' of retweets. The number may look insignificant now, but i believe this will grow bigger and reaches out to more people.

Furthermore, with the increase in the number of Tibetans' self immolation incidences, China is putting a curb to Tibetan practitioners practising openly. Hence, any source of info on DS is very much needed for the Chinese to learn about DS.

Title: Re: China's 'Twitter' Now Two Times Bigger Than Twitter Tweets about Dorje Shugden
Post by: Tenzin K on April 01, 2012, 02:02:42 PM

Wow! What a great news!

Indeed, China has a huge number of populations.
The tweet by Professor Kong Qingdong definitely a great way to promote Lord Shugden. This will make a lot of Chinese to check out this protector and definitely there are some influence weightage here from Prof. Quindong. This is also the fastest way to reach out to the people. Excellent move and by having support from such a great influential people will bring Lord Shugden practice to another level and widely spread.

No one can cover the truth and only pure sincerity and compassion make people open their mind to discover & understand the truth.   

Title: Re: China's 'Twitter' Now Two Times Bigger Than Twitter Tweets about Dorje Shugden
Post by: tsangpakarpo on April 01, 2012, 03:42:09 PM

Great news indeed! As i have always said, China will be the point where Dorje Shugden spreads to the entire world!

Can you imagine, 1.6 billion citizens? Is that not an opportunity for Dorje Shugden's practice to grow? With China expanding so quickly and soon to be a powerhouse in the world, everybody will be watching this country. Many people will visit China for leisure, business and etc.

If Dorje Shugden is established in China, I believe many temples will be built for this great King. In return, many people will visit and get to know about Dorje Shugden. This may be a little disrespect but wouldn't it be cool for Dorje Shugden to be a CELEBRITY BUDDHA?

Title: Re: China's 'Twitter' Now Two Times Bigger Than Twitter Tweets about Dorje Shugden
Post by: dsiluvu on April 01, 2012, 05:34:05 PM

Totally awesome news that all the efforts of dorjeshugden.com is coming to fruition... and this is so positive to know :)

Whatever it is China is currently the strongest country in the world right now. Everything we have today, we buy and use is from China. Their material growth has reach its peak yet still growing I believe... their influence to the world TODAY is obvious. So if China keeps and preserved their heritage and history well, just like all things Chinese... it will infiltrate in to the rest of the world... just like the "made in China" goods but this one is "spiritual goods" :) Awesome to witness this. Like in the past history from China, everything got traded off our being introduced to Asia from China all he way down.... hence Dorje Shugden will soon be like so.

As it is, there is so many nuvo rich in China, everyone wants a piece of their "pie", and as we know after achieving all that wealth comes a depression that no money can take away... that is when Dorje Shugden comes in and of course the Dharma.

Title: Re: China's 'Twitter' Now Two Times Bigger Than Twitter Tweets about Dorje Shugden
Post by: jeremyg on April 01, 2012, 06:37:30 PM

Social media has now become a vital medium to spread anything. This is why it is the fastest way to spread buddhism as well. If one post can reach thousands, if not millions this is the way the buddhism should be spread. Many monks have adopted the internet as an avenue to spread buddhism. It is great to hear that the post about Dorje Shugden has been shared and liked. It is a stepping stone. It is inevitable that awareness grows, that more people learn about the ban, and that more people know the truth.

Title: Re: China's 'Twitter' Now Two Times Bigger Than Twitter Tweets about Dorje Shugden
Post by: bambi on April 04, 2012, 05:30:43 AM

This is superb news! Although personally I don't understand the beautiful Chinese language. Imagine the thousands of people Dorje Shugden's name can reach! In this modern age, so many people rely IT to spread information around hence with such a person blogging about Dorje Shugden, it'll be HUGE! Look at the effort of Dorje Shugden's practitioners! Thank you Singaporeans for sending items to Prof Kong.

To all of you practicing Dorje Shugden out there, you are not alone! Together we can contribute and the collective merits will help LIFT THE BAN!  ;D

Title: Re: China's 'Twitter' Now Two Times Bigger Than Twitter Tweets about Dorje Shugden
Post by: Ensapa on April 04, 2012, 09:40:30 AM

It is amazing that Dorje Shudgen is reaching out to the masses in China, simply because there are more people in China than elsewhere in the world and they all need spiritual guidance and something that will bring them more than just material happiness. When more people practice Dorje Shugden, they will also grow inside, spiritually as well and that is more important than anything else: having more people benefitting and being connected to the Dharma.

When the practice spreads wide not only to the tibetans in China, but to all the Chinese in China and becoming a mainstream practice amongst the more educated Chinese, the Dalai Lama will have to unban Dorje Shugden because there is no way for him to tell the whole of China that they are doing a bad practice as all the historical records and information about Dorje Shugden can be acquired easily, untainted by the modifications of the CTA.

No matter how we want to see it, China does have a lot of people and they all do deserve to be connected to the Dharma. China is allowing people to practice faiths of their choice but of course it has to be sanctioned by the government to prevent propaganda and to make sure that people don't go wild or that there is discord in the country. Because a government's duty is to protect the country and the people in it.

When China encourages DS practice, it will also influence the other chinese countries such as Taiwan to practice it as well and thus, spread the the practice even further. And when they turn out to be all right and turn out to be better people, what happens next is the world will realize that it is actually a beneficial practice.

Title: Re: China's 'Twitter' Now Two Times Bigger Than Twitter Tweets about Dorje Shugden
Post by: ilikeshugden on April 07, 2012, 10:41:43 AM

I really rejoice at this wonderful news! I think it is incredible that there are Dorje Shugden practitioners who would use the time, effort and money to send Dorje Shugden materials to Professor Kong Qing Dong. The effect of the action of giving the Dorje Shugden materials to Professor Kong Qing Dong that resulted in him posting on his Weibo will create karmic links between this professor and his followers to Dorje Shugden even if it is just a karmic imprint in their mind.
 
Weibo, which means micro-blog in Chinese, is the way to go! This way, Dorje Shugden can spread faster! Social media networks are one of the many ways that we can use to spread the lineage of our wonderful protector. When Dorje Shugden spreads further in China, more and more people benefit. The Chinese will benefit not only on a spiritual level, they also benefit on a secular level which the Chinese people would initially be attracted to.
 
May the wonderful Singaporean Dorje Shugden practitioners have long life and happiness and also may Professor Kong Qing Dong and his Weibo followers have a good relationship with Dorje Shugden. May Dorje Shugden spread far and wide in China.

Title: Re: China's 'Twitter' Now Two Times Bigger Than Twitter Tweets about Dorje Shugden
Post by: Klein on April 08, 2012, 10:50:12 AM

Quote from: Tenzin Gyatso on March 31, 2012, 09:05:32 AM

This just reaches the Chinese. It will not reach anyone else. What good does that do? There's no large or powerful Tibetan Buddhist organization in the Chinese speaking world which clearly identifies the Chinese aren't interested. You have to hit the non-Chinese speaking world. No one is tweeting about Shugden. They trust HHDL.

Reaching to 513 million Chinese in an instant is better than the non-Chinese speaking world for now. When more prominent people tweet, it'll catch on. Coke didn't become popular in China because there were people who were already interested. It took the company many millions of US dollars to promote the drink before it became famous.

Dorje Shugden is widely practiced in Tibet and Kham area. There are millions of people there doing the practice. The rest of China just needs to know about this practice which has been around for 3 centuries and was widely practiced by the Gelug lineage in China.

When China becomes the world's number 1 country, the whole world will follow Chinese language, music, culture and even religion. So imagine, when the world is practising Dorje Shugden just because the Chinese are? Now do you see the importance of promoting Dorje Shugden's practice in China?

Title: Re: China's 'Twitter' Now Two Times Bigger Than Twitter Tweets about Dorje Shugden
Post by: Aurore on April 08, 2012, 08:57:29 PM

Looks like the prophecy in Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen's biography is starting to take form and manifest via ONLINE!
After this in the future in the Eastern City,
Disciples of Manjushri’s pureland will increase,
Then in the tribal regions the Dark Land,
Completely light the lamp of dharma,
In short with thoughts of love and compassion,
Perfectly accomplish others’ purpose to greatly benefit beings.


It give much more credibility for a celebrity professor to tweet such positive comments about Dorje Shugden. From this tweet, it sounded like the professor studied the materials sent by the Singaporeans and understood the ban situation. A thinker, someone of deep knowledge agrees that the ban is more than meets the eye. If the Singaporeans keep up the good work in sending this all around the world, eventually more and more celebrities will arise with the same effect. Given this, HHDL is just one celebrity who is against DS.

Just a thought, even though there was no website stated in his tweet, people who retweeted must be curious in the first place of who Dorje Shugden is and searched for Dorje Shugden's information online before retweeting. Hmm … I wonder if there is an increase of visitors to dorjeshugden.com or xiongdeng.com since then?

Title: Re: China's 'Twitter' Now Two Times Bigger Than Twitter Tweets about Dorje Shugden
Post by: dsiluvu on July 05, 2012, 06:59:04 PM

THIS IS THE POWER OF WONDERFUL WORLD WIDE WEB who gave birth to the wonderful world of SOCIAL MEDIA.... it is like a different realm that we tap in to connect with the rest of the world! In just one click... your voice, your thoughts goes out to millions, sometimes billions. This tool is probably the strongest and most powerful tool in the world right now in influencing and changing perspective by the masses.
It use to be the Television... But Now it is this thing we call Social Media.

Everything has it's Pros and Cons but it all depends on one's motivation and what one does with it. Imagine if every Dorje Shugden practitioner starts to TWEET just ONCE a day about Dorje Shugden... my gosh the Fireworks it will create! And all u need is a celebrity like this Professor who has huge influence to re-tweet you and walah.... the reach is huge 700,000 or MORE....

xiongdeng.com must go global so that more and more Chinese will get to know Dorje Shuden, lord knows they need it as the stress of materialism eats in to them. And why is China so important one may think... well because it is spreading the Dharma to the NO.1 Super Power Nation of billions who will then inevitably influence, infiltrate, spread Dharma to the world. And let's not forget Dorje Shugden's gave roots in China's rich cultural heritage....

From Shugden’ s puja praise:

“Enthroned as guardian of the Yellow Hat Teachings
By the Chinese emperor, the Dalai Lama, and his regent,
You generated the intent to protect the Teachings from now
Until the Buddha, Aspiring One, praise to you!”

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Title: Re: China's 'Twitter' Now Two Times Bigger Than Twitter Tweets about Dorje Shugden
Post by: DharmaSpace on July 08, 2012, 10:03:13 AM

China is not new to Tibetan Buddhism their highest authorities practiced Tibetan Buddhism and Lama Tsongkhapa as seen at Yong He Gong, and due the efficacy of the protector practices the royalty probably hid a lot of such practices from the public for fear their power and influence can be undermined by the rest of their population.

China is investing a lot of resources to bring the Panchen Lama into prominence. And there is no need to think that the Chinese Panchen Lama could be the wrong one, a Buddha can manifest in many forms all at once. Before the Communist took over China was predominantly Buddhist, their culture has been for thousands of years very suitable for the spread of Buddhism. And Dorje Shugden is ripe to spread in this land once again.

Have a look at the Buddhist Forums that China is sponsoring and promoting!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Buddhist_Forum,_2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Buddhist_Forum,_2006)

http://www.china.org.cn/english/2006/Apr/165512.htm (http://www.china.org.cn/english/2006/Apr/165512.htm)

http://english.cri.cn/7146/2012/04/25/2361s695416.htm (http://english.cri.cn/7146/2012/04/25/2361s695416.htm)

Title: Re: China's 'Twitter' Now Two Times Bigger Than Twitter Tweets about Dorje Shugden
Post by: Gabby Potter on February 21, 2015, 07:24:39 AM

This is a super good thing, this proves that Dorje Shugden's sacred practise is growing globally. May this pracctise bring benefits to millions of people around the world in the future. I am very glad to read about this, it's such a good news! Thank you for sharing!  :D

Title: Re: China's 'Twitter' Now Two Times Bigger Than Twitter Tweets about Dorje Shugden
Post by: lotus1 on February 21, 2015, 09:08:22 PM

Thanks for sharing this wonderful news.
Currently there are more of more China lamas such as Lama Jampa Ngodup and Lama Thubten Phurpu who practice Dorje Shugden are giving teaching and initiation  of Dorje Shugden openly in China.
The recent Denma Gonsa Rinpoches Enthronement in July 2014 in Tibet has achieved  the attendance of 200,000 devotees. (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/denma-gonsa-rinpoches-enthronement/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/denma-gonsa-rinpoches-enthronement/))
With the growth of China, Tibet and Mongolia, social media such as wei-chat, wei-bo will help to spread the Dorje Shugden teaching and the info of it’s ban to more people.