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General Buddhism => General Buddhism => Topic started by: Tammy on December 28, 2011, 10:16:01 AM
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I had a few 'close encounters' with the unknown forces - every incident happened when I was sleeping. I felt presence next to my bed and could feel the 'person' sitting on the mattress. The next would follow by heavy hands holding down both my shoulders and I couldn't shout, couldn't move... I felt very helpless!
Before I got to know dorjeshugden, i would always chant om mani pemeh hum when the 'hands' were on my shoulders... I had to chant many many times before the force disappear. Lately, i would chant dorjeshugden's mantra and the force disappeared right after the first mantra !!!
And the frequency of the 'encounter' were markedly reduced since I started dorjeshugden practice!
Are the invisible hands from negative energy?
Is there anything else I could do to make sure my family members are protected from the negative forces?
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I would imagine that these spirits are a form of negative energy, then again it also could be that you may have had crossed path with them in the past lives. There are some people who have the karma to attract these spirits. Perhaps to protect your family you can set up an altar and have them practice DS mantra daily...
It is my understanding that altars will help and protect.
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Yes, i think you can chant the protector mantra every day and do it black tea every day and with your sincere heart then everything will going well gradually.
I had a friend who disturb by spirit, he had chant mantra and do his black tea every day after few months, his condition become better and between he also gain a strong faith towards protector, now he was saved. It is amazing this protector can help! try!!!
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Dear Diamond girl and Happysun,
Thank you for your kind and swift replies, i am totally convinced we should practise ds and I will include ds in my altar and introduce my family to this holy and powerful practice.
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Yes chanting Dorje Shugden's mantra is very effective. I too used to feel something pressing my chest when I was asleep and I would wake up and find my whole body become immobile and I would be speechless. I checked with my Lama and he told me it could be very low spirits disturbing me due to my unfinished karma with that being. Ever since I started chanting Dorje Shugden's mantra the encounters become less and less and now it never occur again.
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Yes, Chanting DS mantra definitely helps. Best is we also develop compassion towards these beings when we chant the mantra and dedicate the merits to them so that they can move on their jounery instead of staying as a spirit.
Chanting mantra under these circumstances have a calming effect on me and we dont feel we have no way out. Once you have strong faith in DS, his blessings will come fast. Definitely!!!
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I Have the same effect as Triesa where when I recite Lord Shugden mantra it's have a calming effect and I it help me a few time when I was disturbed by negative energy.
My experience was having a very bad head ache and it's sudden when I feel this negative energy around me. Not frequent but I'm able to differentiate the feeling of normal head ache.
Once I recite the mantra and visualize my guru as one with Lord Shugden (strongly focus), my pain slowly gone.
Agree again with triesa faith is very important in our practice towards our Guru and protector.
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Personally, I've never been disturbed by spirits but I have a friend who has had so many experiences that she is quite immuned to them. Sometimes, when she enters her house, she can smell incense. She somehow know that they are there. Once a spirit tried to get her help by letting her know it is there by displacing things in the house. She contacted a "fengshui" master who communicated with the spirit, a Malay girl. The spirit told her sad story. She was raped and murdered and is trying to find to who did that to her. She gave my friend her name and wanted my friend to go through the newspapers of a certain year to find out what happened. My friend went to the library and searched but could not find anything.
I hope my friend doesn't get disturbances any more. I have advised her to sell the house and move out but she is quite adamant about staying as she claims it is her house.
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I have had a number of experiences where I wake up but my body is still asleep... its very disconcerting as I can see my room and its contents but my eyes are closed and I am aware of what is happening, but I can't wake up. Usually it takes a few minutes before I am "released" from such situation, and I can't help it but feel scared (imagine being trapped in your body and unable to wake up forever!). Whenever this happens I would chant DS' mantra and also put his image beside my bed, it reminds me that I am protected and I feel calm, and fall into peaceful sleep.
I am not sure if my experiences have anything to do with negative spirits / energy (I googled it and there is such a thing called sleep paralysis, which many cultures believe is due to spirits/demons... I can't remember the scientific explanation off hand now because it is less intriguing hehe) but I do believe that having faith in DS protection when I am in distress does help a lot in calming my mind and let go of negative notions/energy.
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I am sorry for those who have to go through those scary experiences. I've not been disturbed by spirits before but whenever I feel uneasy and goose bumps are up, I ALWAYS chant DS mantras. Not only in quiet and scary places but also around people I feel uneasy near to. I always introduce DS, give away DS pictures, mantras to my friends who have spirit disturbances and teach them how to chant it. They like it very much because it helps them. It is also very good to ask for blessings from DS for us to have a smooth and safe journey whenever we go traveling.
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Chanting Dorje Shugden's mantra is really an effective way!!
Whenever I have some problems in my daily life, i would just chant His mantra, and guess what?
Problems just settled very easily. Sometimes i can't even relate that was actually the compassion power of Dorje Shugden. (the stupid me just couldn't believe the truth that Dorje Shugden is helping me unconditionally)
PS: remember to teach your family members to chant His mantra as well. Chant as many times as you can.
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Thank you all for your sharings and reassurance on the power of DS mantra.. it is silly of me to even be surprise by the swiftness of DS' protection when his mantra is being chanted.
I rejoice for those who had met him and being put under his protection and mandala from now on, let's spread this great practice and may more and more people meet DS and the ban be lifted very soon!!
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I have not encountered such spirits before, and I am not looking forward to have an encounter with them :P
But seeing the posts and replies here, I know what advice I can give my friends/relatives when they are disturbed, that is to ask them to recite Dorje Shugden mantra!!
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Oh yes? I agree with you Kris?DS mantra is powerful?Is a good advise and suggestion to our family or friend if someone is facing of distrubed by spirit. I will advised one of my friend to start DS mantra so that can help him to stop the disturbing from spirit
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Reciting dorje shugden mantras is an effective way. However, if the person doesn't like to recite, then carrying or wearing chakras such as dorje shudgen, dukkar or yamantaka would help protect the person from spirit disturbances as well.
The best is always to recite the mantras ourselves. Other mantras we can recite are dukkar, heart sutra or singdoma. If you have a guru, please consult your guru for the most effective results.
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I've never had any "physical" disturbances before. However, I do feel a strong negative unwelcoming energy in my previous residence. I would get a throbbing headache the moment the sun sets. What I found effective was protector incense offering (sangsol), any form of prayers and mantras. It will take some time before things gets more settled though. I remember once I managed to get hold of some rice blessed by DS himself through an oracle. It was said to be very effective for clearance of negative energies. One night, I experimented and burned a grain of this rice which is to invoke DS's presence. I had the most peaceful sleep that night! I haven't been able to get hold of anymore rice since then though :-\
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I had a few 'close encounters' with the unknown forces - every incident happened when I was sleeping. I felt presence next to my bed and could feel the 'person' sitting on the mattress. The next would follow by heavy hands holding down both my shoulders and I couldn't shout, couldn't move... I felt very helpless!
Before I got to know dorjeshugden, i would always chant om mani pemeh hum when the 'hands' were on my shoulders... I had to chant many many times before the force disappear. Lately, i would chant dorjeshugden's mantra and the force disappeared right after the first mantra !!!
And the frequency of the 'encounter' were markedly reduced since I started dorjeshugden practice!
Are the invisible hands from negative energy?
Is there anything else I could do to make sure my family members are protected from the negative forces?
I have personally experience this before a few times. The last time I felt this was many years ago, during that time I didn't know about protector practice nor did I follow any particular religious practice. I was pretty much a free thinker. I can remember this experience vividly because I was actually awake and was fully in control of my body until suddenly a gust of wind blew in from outside my room. The wind was so strong, the curtain was blown up all the way. The next moment, my face was twisted to my right, I felt a strong grip on my face and I couldn't move nor let out a sound, as I was pin down by this unknown being.
But from the corner of my left eye, I could see a black figure that resemble a human being. Without any practices or belief at that time, all I felt was FEAR. The grip on my face was so tight my gum was painful. This lasted for around 15 minutes. My fear became something else, it was more like what does it want from me? As I became more annoyed and angry, the grip somehow began to loosen. Then, just as sudden as it came, it went out the same way.
Till today I've never got an explanation for this happening. But I feel much safer now knowing that the DS is watching over me.
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Reciting dorje shugden mantras is an effective way. However, if the person doesn't like to recite, then carrying or wearing chakras such as dorje shudgen, dukkar or yamantaka would help protect the person from spirit disturbances as well.
The best is always to recite the mantras ourselves. Other mantras we can recite are dukkar, heart sutra or singdoma. If you have a guru, please consult your guru for the most effective results.
My friend had spirit followed and disturbed her, her guru taught her singdoma mantra and she set up an altar for singdoma since then she never encounter with this bad experience again.
Another friend of mine had a problem with spirit disturb during the night, his guru advised him to recite Dukkar mantra and he is fine after that.
For me i encountered with nightmare and something forcing on me and i could not move and felt uncomfortable almost everyday or nights when i fell sleep for years until the point i was scare to sleep, i was advised to recite heart sutra mantra everyday and it become lessen until i met my guru and he kindly introduced me his sacred practice of Dorje shugden. My guru taught me Dorje Shugden mantra and asked me to recite his mantra every day since then i can have a good sleep and it never happen again. I'm grateful for my guru kindness and compassion.
So if you have friends encounter such problems, please teach them Dorje Shugden mantra. Its kind like you are giving them a new life which have forever protection.
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Yes, when we encounter spirits or any other negative forces chanting mantras of the enlightened beings with strong faith would be powerful protection. Some holy beings eg. Dukkar, DS, Singdoma etc are especially effective for such purposes.
After taking refuge with the 3 jewels, it is important we keep all our vows and commitments. Why? The function of these vows and commitments is to protect us.
DS is an enlightened being vowed to protect the teachings of Lord Tsongkhapa. It is therefore best for disciples of Tsongkhapa lineage to do its daily practice. When we encounter any obstacles be it spiritual or worldly , call upon the King and it will not fail us.
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I have not had the experience of being in the presence of spirits (I could have been, but I was not sensitive to their presence) so I would not be able to account for which mantra should help. But judging from the postings here, many people have kindly suggested many mantras to chant and it definitely is DS mantra.
I do not like to walk in the dark but there are times when I am forced to e.g. when I need to go to my car parked somewhere dark, short of asking a male colleague to accompany me. There were times when I felt uneasy as if there was an evil force around; there was nothing else I could do, I told myself. Apart from walking faster to reach my destination, I would chant DS mantra along the way.
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I have always remember once my Guru says that whenever we encounter any difficulties be it spirits or any negative forces, feeling uneasiness, etc. think of him and Dorje Shugden as one. Of course by keeping one's clean samaya with the Guru and taking refuge with the 3 jewels along with our vows and commitments play the crucial importance in generating the required protection at all times. Even chanting own Guru's mantra or DS mantra is the most effective and powerful protection.
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I have gone through this experience of 'things' pressing on me during my college days, especially when I stayed up late studying. Some of my mates also had the same experience. One of them who is a Moslem said, in her belief, these spirits usually is out to disturb people who are doing 'good' deeds, in our case, studying. Wished I knew about DS then, sure would save me a lot of scary, helpless nights. With that in mind, I would always give away DS brochures to students so that they don't go through the bad experience I went through when I was a student. It is also with the hope that they get to know the Protector.
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We have to have compassion on the spirits because they live in a trapped world where their miserliness, attachment and loneliness is magnified many times over. Because their suffering is so great that they sometimes crossed from their world into ours and 'disturb' us. However, we must understand that they are doing that because they themselves are suffering.
Therefore, the first step is to understand their situation and develop compassion for them. Then when we recite the mantra, the blessings of Dorje Shugden will come forth stronger because of our motivation and Dorje Shugden would be able to bless them and bless us too. All of us have the seeds of miserliness and attachment that will bring us to that state of rebirth. So, don't have this fear of such interfering beings but have not fear of the causes of that state or rebirth is in us as well.
Each time we are selfish, miserly and attached, we create causes to take that rebirth. Hence, we do Dharma practice to transform those negative qualities to something higher and better. These seeds are in us and remains dormant unless we activate them at the moment of death. Everything we did accumulates at the moment of death and one of these seeds is bound to open, which is dependant on your emotions.
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We have to have compassion on the spirits because they live in a trapped world where their miserliness, attachment and loneliness is magnified many times over. Because their suffering is so great that they sometimes crossed from their world into ours and 'disturb' us. However, we must understand that they are doing that because they themselves are suffering.
Therefore, the first step is to understand their situation and develop compassion for them. Then when we recite the mantra, the blessings of Dorje Shugden will come forth stronger because of our motivation and Dorje Shugden would be able to bless them and bless us too. All of us have the seeds of miserliness and attachment that will bring us to that state of rebirth. So, don't have this fear of such interfering beings but have not fear of the causes of that state or rebirth is in us as well.
Each time we are selfish, miserly and attached, we create causes to take that rebirth. Hence, we do Dharma practice to transform those negative qualities to something higher and better. These seeds are in us and remains dormant unless we activate them at the moment of death. Everything we did accumulates at the moment of death and one of these seeds is bound to open, which is dependant on your emotions.
Well said big uncle.. As most of the times when i got disturbed by spirits at middle of the night with the uncomfortable feeling and my fear so my reaction is just want to recite Dorje Shugden mantra to get rid of them in this situation without thinking about how suffering the spirits has gone through and end up in this state and generate compassion towards them to help them so my reciting mantra is purely selfish just to protect myself.
Unlike in my normal day when i finished my prayers and do dedication and i think about them and generate compassion towards them. Its make me realize that how importance of training our mind as everything can be happened any time and only the mind which being well trained will response in the right way.
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I never had any "physical" encounters with spirits but I have felt their presence of my body been pressed down when I am sleeping and I became immobilized. It was quite a frequent occurrence. Since I started reciting Dorje Shugden's mantra I do not encounter this bad interferences. Nowadays I will dedicate my merits to them and pray that Dorje Shugden will blessed them so that their sufferings may be lessen and that they may be able to take a better rebirth.
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I believe that dorje shugden can help us in clearing our obstacles like black magic because sometimes when I am alone in my room i feel uneasy and disturbed by some spirit and there was also one time when i was half asleep i felt like the wind blew my legs down to the floor then i woke up i thought that it was a dream but my legs was actually on the floor and same things happened another time i felt like something knocked me and i wake up felling as if nothing happened.at that i would recite dorje shugden's mantra. Also, Dorje Shugden can help anyone as long as you trust and believe in him he can surely benefit everyone.
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This is my view on the spirit. Just like humans and animals, they are sentient beings that deserve our compassion. Some of my friends refused to recognize the existence of spirits. However, it does not really matter what they think. Just because we did not see spirits with our human eyes, it does not mean that they are not exist. My attitude towards spirits are to recognize their existence and to pray for their welfare using Shantideva’s dedication prayer and rely fully on my protector, Dorje Shugden to protect me from harm caused by spirits, humans, animals, or other beings.
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On paranormal experiences, I experienced it twice. The first time was when i was on the 4th floor in my primary school out of a sudden, the head of a girl popped out in front of the window that was facing the highway. It was as if the girl jumped up and her head was just above the window and she let out a little squeal before she came down again. Me and another friend who saw it rushed to the window, looked left, right and down but saw no one. Nobody would be able to run that far and there is no way anyone could climb up there and jump as it was very dangerous and there were walls and barricades everywhere. It was freaky as nobody could explain what or who she was and how did she get up there and how did she manage to disappear so fast till this day, it remains a mystery to me.
The second time was when i was doing exams during my middle school. The classroom was at the ground floor and it was facing a field. On the far corner of the field were some bushes, and at the bushes was a very clear and distinct shape of a man, walking, but his body was transparent, the way one would see a glass of water. Although transparent, the image within his shape appears distorted like methane. he was walking into the bushes nearby and disappeared. The first time i saw him, i thought that my eyes were playing tricks on me and I rubbed them a little. The figure was still around. Not too long after, the dog that was sleeping in the middle of the field howled and he went to the side of the classroom to sleep.
I have not have any more encounters since, and for now, I do not wish to as I am not well equipped enough to deal with them.
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I Have the same effect as Triesa where when I recite Lord Shugden mantra it's have a calming effect and I it help me a few time when I was disturbed by negative energy.
My experience was having a very bad head ache and it's sudden when I feel this negative energy around me. Not frequent but I'm able to differentiate the feeling of normal head ache.
Once I recite the mantra and visualize my guru as one with Lord Shugden (strongly focus), my pain slowly gone.
Agree again with triesa faith is very important in our practice towards our Guru and protector.
I experience the same effects as you do. Every time I am enter a premise which has negative energy which does not welcome you, I will feel a certain headache which is more like a heavy energy pressing me. I am certain there's spirits everywhere. However, when I feel this way I feel it's because they are not pleased. I guess I am not alone in this! :)
Btw, I hd that spirits love to hear Om Mani Padme Hum. Perhaps that is why it require some time for them to release Tammy? The other reason I could think of is Dorje Shugden appears as a dharma protector form moreover a wrathful form which also mean he is closer to us than Chenrezig who is in a Buddha form.
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i have not encountered any sort of spirit disturbances before (and i do not want this to happen) but through what i learned from my friends who encountered it, they mentioned quite a lot of scary things that includes following you wherever you go. i was just wondering if my altar will help me by protecting me and my family. Will spirits shy away whenever they see an altar especially when they see Dharma Protectors are around. My take is that spirits are unlikely to shy away from altars because most of my friends who told me of such things do have altars in their respective homes.