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Re: News from Shar Gaden
« Reply #137 on: July 21, 2010, 01:34:42 AM »
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I just had a meeting with the school pricipal, Geshe Lharampa Lobsang Jamyang, and he told me that he was asked by many of the older monks if he could request me to start 2 evening classes for those who cannot attend the daytime classes. It was such a joy to hear that so many more students are eager to learn. They study so hard and it is truly amazing that they want to learn even more.
This means that I will be very busy for the next couple of months that I have left here so I am not sure that I will have much time to post.
In 2 months my visa expires and I will have to leave. My goal is to come back again in December so that I can continue with this mission. This is all voluntary work and I have almost depleted my funds, but my hope is to find friends who will once again help me with the costs of returning here to help these monks learn English. If you are interested in sponsoring a portion of my travel fees, please send me a message. This is something I feel very commited to and will do whatever I can to make coming back here possible
Here is my email address-
[email protected]
Keep Shar Gaden in your thoughts.
Much love from East Tushita (Shar Gaden),
T.S.
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Re: News from Shar Gaden
« Reply #141 on: July 21, 2010, 01:12:41 PM »
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The support that I am seeking is mainly for the airfare and other related travel expences. I have checked around and I think that it will cost around $1000.00 for airfare and another $100-200 for train fair, bus, taxi ect.
I know that this is a lot of money and that is why I am starting to gather support early on. My next planned trip back here is still about 4 -5 months away, but these things work much easier when set up in advance.
For the past 4 years I have been a full time volunteer in one form or another. Most of my past voluntary work revolved around helping the homeless and drug addicts. This has been a dream of mine for many years now- volunteering full time for the Dharma. It is only through the kind support of others that I have been able to do any of this. It never gets easier for me to ask for assistance, mostly due to my stuborn pride, but now I have started to see this as a sharing of merit and a coordinated way to help others.
For those who are willing to sponsor a portion of the costs, send me a message and I will give you details about how and where to send the support. I will make updates as things progress.
Thank you everyone!!
[email protected]
T.S.
extracted from Tenzin Sungrab's posts at: http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=688.135
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This is a special Request for Tenzin Sungrab to continue his works in Shar Gaden.
I am posting this on my own without any communications with TS. TS , I hope you don't mind.
This thread is only for amounts you wish to pledge to Tenzin Sungrab's continued works at Shar Gaden Monastery.
If you have any comments, questions, prayers for TS, please post on: http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=688.135
I have many financial commitments towards other dharma projects, but the amount TS is looking for is not beyond what we can do if we put our hands together. Let's give Dorje Shugden's cause some tangible help.
All those who cherish what Shar Gaden is doing and the courageous monks' necessity to learn English, please pledge any amount. Please let TS know directly, send directly to him, and kindly also post here your pledged amount so we know when we have reached our blessed goal. May I suggest we raise US$1,500 for TS please. Thank you.
I will start the ball rolling by pledging US$500.oo. I dedicate this to flourishing of the practice of Tsongkapa and Dorje Shugden.
Humbly,
TK
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I pledge USD50
THAIMONK
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I pledge USD100.
Thank you for your time and love given to the sangha at Shar Gaden. Do continue with the good work !
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Dear TS
I would like to pledge US100. Please keep up the good work!!!
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I called my friend, and he wants to donate US$50 also. He says he has heavy personal commitments, but for Dorje Shugden's Monastery he can take out US$50 to contribute. :) :) :)
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I rejoiced for your cause to help Dharma flourish :D
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Another friend has pledged US$25.oo to TS's works. I will continue to speak to friends. I will continue to raise funds. No offence to anyone, we shouldn't just talk but do actions even if the person does not belong to our personal organizations but we belong to the same cause-Dorje Shugden. Help because we care. I am sure some of us are supporting our own organizations, but we should squeeze out some to help. :D
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It would be my privilege to help,
I believe that Tenzin Sungrab is sincere and that by helping him financially he can continue his work that will benefit many.
I would like to donate 500 Euros.
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It would be my privilege to help,
I believe that Tenzin Sungrab is sincere and that by helping him financially he can continue his work that will benefit many.
I would like to donate 500 Euros.
That is so beautiful. I rejoice in your action dharma whoever you are.
TK
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Hello friends,
I am a bit overwhelmed as I read this page. This is beautiful. All of the people who have pleadged support are people that I do not know outside of this forum. This in itself is amazing and demonstrates how we can pull together when there is a need.
I am completely overjoyed that I will now have another opportunity to come back here to Shar Gaden to help these dear monks. This is such great news and I can't wait to tell the monks that I will definately be back here soon.
The pricipal will be happy too I am sure. He has put a lot of effort into helping me start some of the educational programs like the pen-pal club and the Sunday conversation gathering in the prayer hall.
These monks are the future lineage holders of our precious lineage and every tool that we can provide them will make it easier for them to help more people.
Thank you again.
T.S.
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Dear TS, I would like to pledge USD 500 to your cause. You set the example to many people on how to best use you life to create most value. I am privileged to have this opportunity to contribute.
Dear tk, thank you for putting this thread up and bringing our attention to this opportunity to benefit others through the work of TS.
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Yes, lets put Dharma in action. I would like to humbly contribute US50.
Keep up the good work T.S.
Thank you again TK for sharing and letting all of us have the opportunity here to collect merits.
Triesa.
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My dear Tenzin Sungrab,
You are doing what i am currently unable to do. I.e. take time out to do Dharma fully. The very least I can do is to contribute some funds to your very worthy work. I pledge £50.
TK - thanks so much for starting this thread and the ball rolling.
love
Kate
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Dear Tenzin Sungrab
Thank you for giving your time and talent to the monks in Shar Gaden. I wish I could take off for a couple of months..but it's not possible at this time. I rejoice very much for you and wish you well. I would like to humbly pledge $50 to your work.
best wishes
DSFriend
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This is really lovely. We all get to contribute and do something positive. I'd like to chip in USD50.00
Keep up the good work, TS!
Thank you, TK, for initiating this pledge for everyone to get involved.
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hey our hero in East Tushita
U have my prayers and support, USD 20 from my little pocket:)
wish u all the heart warming layers of love,life and devotion to your lama, yidam and our sublime protector!
om mani peme hung!
H1N1
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Thank you TK for starting this initiative and Thank you Tenzin Sungrab for being such an inspiration and helping all those courageous monks. I would like so much to be able to do what you're doing but right now, it is not possible for me. (Also, i don't know if women are allowed to go into the monastery to teach the way you do?)
I would like to contribute USD50 towards this fund for TS to continue his amazing work. Thank you TK and please say an extra hello to all the monks for us TS! I so wish I could be there!
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This is incredible! While there may not always be agreement on the subject matter of this forum, there seems to be a definite unity when it comes to wanting to help the Shar Gaden monks learn English.
You ARE helping me, but more than that you are helping Shar Gaden. You are helping to provide the monks with an education of the English language as a tool to further disseminate the Dharma.
What a wonderful feeling it is to see so many different people, many who have never met before, rally around a shared intention.
Today I shared the news with my students that many friends of Shar Gaden, from all over the world, are going to help me come back again to teach. They loved the idea of having so many unknown friends help in such a coordinated way.
For those who have pleadged assistance: I have asked a Dharma friend in America to handle the funds and purchase an airline ticket as soon as the funds are collected. Please send me a message and I will provide the details. I hope that is okay.
Once again, thank you for your kindness and encouragement.
Much love from Shar Gaden,
T.S.
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I am posting the same comments that I have posted in another thread because it relates to this and what TS just said above.
When I first joined, I also got quite turned off by the disagreements in the Forum, how some members so-called "debate" with one another. So, it does come across more like bickering and children fighting in some instances, but not all. There is too much focus on the disagreements alone. Hence, it does look very discouraging to the outsider or newbie who may interested to know, or want to learn, or may seriously need something to assist him/her in deciding to support DS or not. What will this outsider or newbie think when he/she reads all of these arguments?
I am here to seek more knowledge and understanding because I do realise that I do not know enough. Not enough to stand up against the whole well crafted and established machinery that is TGIE or the well beloved credibility of HHDL.
HHDL has really built a solild credible reputation over the years. Now, he is synonymous with Buddhism. And by virtue of the fact that HHDL is the Head of State, then TGIE gains respectability and credibility in the process.
Where does that leave us? What do our voices matter when compared to the well established media platform that they have at their disposal?
Hence, I posted that new thread - Canonicity and Divine Interferences. Please read how that is written. It sounds so professional and well crafted. Any normal person would be swayed by that article and believe that DS is nothing but a low class spirit and DS supporters seem like cult followers. What makes articles like them more believable is that it has HHDL & TGIE who aided the author in his research for the article.
Hence, making HHDL and TGIE look like they have nothing to hide. They gladly help anyone in coming out with the truth.
In comparison, how do our speech and forum behaviour appear? How do our collective and individual attitude reflect on DS and our Gurus?
When I first joined, I was also taken back by how everyone appear to be fawning over TK.
I also thought that they must be friends or this is all a private club of sorts.
However, I soon learnt from all TK's posts - past and present that he (here, I am assumming and forgive me if I am wrong) has been consistent in sharing tremendous amount of info. He was always generous in posting as much as he gathers and knows.
What's more - he walks the talk - i.e. he doesn't just talk and talk - he prints brochures, donates to other causes, contributes to the Forum with more info, distributes more knowledge and brochures everywhere.
TK does not just speak of the Dharma or preach the Dharma, he practices and lives the Dharma.
In time, I see someone who has been consistent in his actions for Dharma and is really credible. This becomes the someone whom I can respect. Hence, a good credible representation of DS Supporters and Dharma Practitioners.
I'd say the same for TS - he is in Shar Gaden and teaching the monks! OMG, how wonderful and beautiful is that!
My point - simply this - HHDL and TGIE already have higher grounds and more at their disposal to crush everything we do or say. We only need to see all that is around us. They can come out with an article via an author and it looks so credible. Would we be able to pull that off? I think not.
Hence, we should spend more energy and time on building our own credibility and reputation - individually and collectively. Leave the bickering and unethical behaviour to you know who!
We can't win the real war when we are so focussed on the internal battles.
In any case, I think people like TS and TK who do such great work should deserve more of our support. If we can help and contribute, it'd be great to do so. Put your words into actions - real beneficial actions! They are the ones which make the most difference!
Thank you all and have a wonderful day!
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No matter how much you contribute, you are showing your faith, beliefs and trust in Dorje Shugden by action.
I am so happy for the people who cared enough to contribute. You know who you are. In the time of need, those who contributed pulled together to help a dharma friend out no matter what your views may or may not be. United in action for a common just cause.
Wonderful warm opening of Dharma.
tk
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I guess those who want to debate, talk, share and insist, this is the time to show your sincerity by donating to Tenzin Sungrab even if he doesn't belong to your teacher and centre. Otherwise all the lam rim, debates, talking, emotions were just air.
Everyone should donate and help.
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Hi TS
I just came back from a short trip. I'd like to pledge another USD50 which are contributions from my friends.
For those who wish to argue/debate to win, why not pledge to support this cause as it'll make us all win..win the trappings of samsara.
Keep up the meaningful work you are doing.
DSFriend
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I know every contribution helps so I am my wife will contribute USD30.
May you be blessed in your undertaking.
:)
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Dear tenzin sungrab,
I hope you are well, because you certainly sound quite well.
May I ask if you have recieved the money collected by some of the caring forum members? :)
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Good question, TM!
I did not even think to ask and have forgotten all about it.
TS, can you please kindly confirm if you have received anything from us all who pledged?
Thank you.
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Yes, I now have the needed money for my return in early January. It is really quite amazing that people who I have never met have pulled together to support me in my efforts to help these monks. Lately it seems that so many people waste so much time with slander and innuendo on other forums that it is nice to see people willing to DO something to help others for the Dharma. Very refreshing and encouraging. I may not always understand or agree with every post on this forum, but this forum has helped me since day one.
As of right now, I have less than a month before my visa expires. I have already made all of the necessary arrangements with the general secretary for my return. In fact, I am leaving many of my things here for when I come back. I am even applying for the Protected Area Permit before I leave next month to ensure that it will be ready by January. The school principal is very happy that I will be back to continue the classes. The students seem very happy as well. I have made many genuine friendships here, and I am so grateful that this is just the close of chapter 1 with much more of the story to unfold. The best is yet to come.
Thank you so much for providing me with another opportunity to come back here to continue working with these dear monks.
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Go Tenzin! Go!
They need you, you need them,we need you to help them, we need them to help you, we support you, we support them, they support you, they support us...
There is no such thing as one person in need and another one that is not. We are all in ned of help, and the best way to get it is to give it.