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About Dorje Shugden => General Discussion => Topic started by: Blueupali on October 25, 2013, 11:15:57 PM
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Hi Everyone,
Lovely teachings from Geshe Kelsang Gyatso on the Perfection of Wisdom are this week. Updates available from:
www.kadampa.org (http://www.kadampa.org)
for festival info:
www.kadampafestivals.org (http://www.kadampafestivals.org)
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Also Facebook.com/kadampa, YouTube.com/NKTIKBU, twitter.com/kadampa and Instagram/NKTIKBU
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It is truly amazing, there are 7000 Buddhist attending Geshe Kelsang Gyatso's teaching in Portugal. Here is a short clip of Geshela's talk on Empowerment.
Geshe Kelsang Gyatso - Empowerment Talk - Fall Festival 2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A_G7O3qnxY#)
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One who practices Dharma with sincere motivation will be able to change the life of others.
Is Geshe Kelsang practicing Dharma? Yes.
Is he harming others? No
Is there anything wrong with doing Dorje Shugden practice? No
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Thank you for sharing!
I totally love Geshela's teachings. I connected to Tibetan Buddhism through NKT's book, Geshela's intro to Buddhism book was the first Tibetan Buddhism Dharma book that I picked out from the bookshelf in my local book store... every since then I've been practicing Tibetan Buddhism.
So, news on Geshela always touches me. May Geshela have good health, He is truly a Bodhisattva that the world needs very much.
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Geshe Kelsang is an inspiration to many people around the world to have fought the ban and his organization is still growing leaps and bounds. And their system of study appeals to a lot of Westerners who want to share the dharma because they have derived benefit from such teachings.
His sangha consists of many teachers lay and also monastic. For the hundred of thousands of practitioners within the Kadampa mandala practicing Dorje Shugden brings about peace, realisations and Joy from the study programs, practices and books of Geshe Kelsang Gyatso. I have read the 8 steps to happiness and it has given me a great insight into the practice of the Lojong and the 8 verses of transforming the mind. There is also the ‘Joyful Path’ a modern way of presenting the Lamrim in a modern setting.
I pray for their success to in touching many people’s hearts and minds through Dorje Shugden. I can’t help but compare on one hand you have NKT who is continuously bringing the dharma to the people around the globe at an exponential rate, on the other hand we have CTA who are not only losing powerful friends (Britain, USA etc the lists grows ever longer) their only possible source of growth are their fanatical supporters who contribute to the Tibetan’s population growth?
Dorje Shugden practitioners and lamas are able to go to diverse countries and work with people of all levels and bring benefit to the community. China is such an example, that the work of Dorje Shugden Lamas have resulted in China developing a trusting bond with the Dorje Shugden lamas.
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Mahasiddha Geshe Kelsang Gyatso Rinpoche explained that when we meditate on the emptiness of the body we normally perceive, we develop a an understanding or belief that the body we normally see does not exist. We ascertain the emptiness of our body in meditation, but then our problems return when we arise from meditation because we forget what we experienced; we develop self grasping doubt that believes the body we normally perceive does really exist. The same is so for our self and all other phenomena. We develop a correct view based on wisdom, then we give in to the usual doubt. We need to remember what we experienced in meditation as being the truth, then understand that appearances are their emptiness appearing as things. They are non dual - appearance and emptiness. When we gain this knowledge, appearances themselves should remind us if their emptiness and we should maintain this continually to solve our daily problems.
He also transmitted the uncommon yoga of inconceivability of Vajrayogini through which Dakiniland can be accomplished without abandoning the human body. If you have not received this, nows the time to request the Protector to arrange conditions for you to! Beautiful!!
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Mahasiddha Geshe Kelsang Gyatso Rinpoche explained that when we meditate on the emptiness of the body we normally perceive, we develop a an understanding or belief that the body we normally see does not exist. We ascertain the emptiness of our body in meditation, but then our problems return when we arise from meditation because we forget what we experienced; we develop self grasping doubt that believes the body we normally perceive does really exist. The same is so for our self and all other phenomena. We develop a correct view based on wisdom, then we give in to the usual doubt. We need to remember what we experienced in meditation as being the truth, then understand that appearances are their emptiness appearing as things. They are non dual - appearance and emptiness. When we gain this knowledge, appearances themselves should remind us if their emptiness and we should maintain this continually to solve our daily problems.
He also transmitted the uncommon yoga of inconceivability of Vajrayogini through which Dakiniland can be accomplished without abandoning the human body. If you have not received this, nows the time to request the Protector to arrange conditions for you to! Beautiful!!
Venerable Geshe Kelsang Gyatso is truly very compassionate to expound the Wisdom Teachings on Emptiness and transmitted the Uncommon Yoga of Inconceivability of Vajrayogini. The Uncommon Yoga of Inconceivability of Vajrayogini is not commonly given by Geshe-la in NKT Festivals! Attendees of the recent Fall Festival 2013 in Portugal are very fortunate indeed! I rejoice in their good fortunes!
Thank You psylotripitaka for sharing Geshe-la’s teaching on emptiness here. It is very profound and useful for us to contemplate and meditate on. In one paragraph, you had summarised the essence of the emptiness teachings by Geshe-la!
Here’s my understanding, correct me if I am wrong!
Correct View of Emptiness – the body that we normally perceive does not exist inherently. We meditate on this view continuously until we gain realisation of it.
Post Meditation – we forget the emptiness of our body and grasps at the appearance of our body as real. We must remember the object of our meditation which is “the body that we normally perceive does not exist inherently”. The same goes for all the other phenomena.
Appearances are their emptiness appearing as things – All phenomena lack inherent existence. It is due to their emptiness that all phenomena manifest.
Appearances and their emptiness are non-dual – This means what appears to us are also their emptiness. They are the same nature.
Hence, we should not grasp at the appearance of objects because these objects do not exist inherently. We must familiarise ourselves with this correct view continuously until we gain a realisation of it. With the correct understanding of the true nature of all phenomena even at the intellectual level initially, we can solve some of our daily problems. Eventually we can solve all problems!
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I heard from a source that towards the end of Geshe-la's teaching in Portugal. He mentioned he is 74 years old and he is at the same age his Lama, Trijang Rinpoche has passed away. He urged all his students to practice the dharma as he has given all teachings which is needed. He also asked his students to be kind and be emanation of the Budhha.
I cringed at the thought of what Geshe-la said. I pray that Geshe-la live for another 100 of years. If we have our lama/guru with us no matter what sect or even what religion, we should be grateful and appreciate them.
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Venerable Geshe Kelsang Gyatso-la is one of the many lamas who works tirelessly for dharma and for speaking up against the ban on Dorje Shugden. The result of this is the more than 1000 NKT dharma centers that have sprouted all over the world and the heroic voices of their sangha and lay people, the NKT members, in calling out for the ban on Dorje Shugden to be lifted. Please live long, Venerable Geshe-la.
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If DS practise was bad, I am sure that the 3 jewels would have already stopped the growth of such centres and lamas propagating the teachings and practise of Dorje Shugden but why do they continue to grow year after year and gain many practitioners? Wouldn't the Gelugpa High lamas try to stop these lamas promoting the practise of an "evil spirit"? Why have they been unsuccessful so far? Just like how Dromo Geshe Rinpoche subdued Namka Bardzin, why hasn't any lamas subdued this 'evil spirit' named Dorje Shugden?
Lamas like Geshe Kelsang Gyatso is a true lama practising a true lineage.. just look at how he is compassionately teaches others to help and benefit them... that's already an indication of a true, living lama who's goal is to spread the teachings of the Buddha so that everyone can work their way towards enlightenment.
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I heard from a source that towards the end of Geshe-la's teaching in Portugal. He mentioned he is 74 years old ....
74 years --> 84 years in a few months
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Drubchen Kelsang Gyatso Rinpoche will be 84, and has said they are older in the Tibetan calendar. Trijang Dorjechang left at age 81 by the western calendar. Let us pray he continues to be with us transmitting the blessings through teaching, but, if he does leave, the uncommon yoga teaching is quite the send off!
The uncommon yoga has traditionally only been allowed to be given to 3 or 7 people at a time and it was very difficult to receive. I believe it was put into a booklet from an oral transmission by Geshe Rabten (?) a long time ago. However, now, not only did Venerable Geshe-la prepare the sadhana, he made his own teaching notes into a booklet, and proceeded to give a detailed transmission publicly to 7000+ people, many of whom do not even have Highest Yoga Tantra empowerment. This is not only an indication of the times or his tremendous kindness to give it so when they do have initiation they can practice, but it is an indication that many people have amazing karma to achieve Dakiniland very soon, and that my friends is a very wonderful thing indeed!
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I heard from a source that towards the end of Geshe-la's teaching in Portugal. He mentioned he is 74 years old ....
74 years --> 84 years in a few months
Also, sometimes it's hard to understand the accents of people who are from Tibet---:).
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If DS practise was bad, I am sure that the 3 jewels would have already stopped the growth of such centres and lamas propagating the teachings and practise of Dorje Shugden but why do they continue to grow year after year and gain many practitioners? Wouldn't the Gelugpa High lamas try to stop these lamas promoting the practise of an "evil spirit"? Why have they been unsuccessful so far? Just like how Dromo Geshe Rinpoche subdued Namka Bardzin, why hasn't any lamas subdued this 'evil spirit' named Dorje Shugden?
Lamas like Geshe Kelsang Gyatso is a true lama practising a true lineage.. just look at how he is compassionately teaches others to help and benefit them... that's already an indication of a true, living lama who's goal is to spread the teachings of the Buddha so that everyone can work their way towards enlightenment.
Whatever Gelugpa high lamas might or might not do, I am sure can sometimes depend on which high lamas you are referring to:).
At any rate, we could just think, why would Trijang Rinpoche do the practice, why would Song Rinpoche and so many others do the pratice if it wasn't Buddhist? They wouldn't have, if it wasn't an authentic practice.
Also, we have Guru Rinpoche who hasn't bothered to subdue Dorje Shugden. This is because Guru Rinpoche would not really need to subdue Manjushri, so he wouldn't try.
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Drubchen Kelsang Gyatso Rinpoche will be 84, and has said they are older in the Tibetan calendar. Trijang Dorjechang left at age 81 by the western calendar. Let us pray he continues to be with us transmitting the blessings through teaching, but, if he does leave, the uncommon yoga teaching is quite the send off!
The uncommon yoga has traditionally only been allowed to be given to 3 or 7 people at a time and it was very difficult to receive. I believe it was put into a booklet from an oral transmission by Geshe Rabten (?) a long time ago. However, now, not only did Venerable Geshe-la prepare the sadhana, he made his own teaching notes into a booklet, and proceeded to give a detailed transmission publicly to 7000+ people, many of whom do not even have Highest Yoga Tantra empowerment. This is not only an indication of the times or his tremendous kindness to give it so when they do have initiation they can practice, but it is an indication that many people have amazing karma to achieve Dakiniland very soon, and that my friends is a very wonderful thing indeed!
I pray that Geshe-la stays with us to turn the Wheel of Dharma. It is a critical time for the lineage of Dorje Shugden with great reincarnated teachers of the past not yet coming into their prime (Kyabje Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche, Geshe Rabten, Domo Geshe Rinpoche, Denma Gonsar Rinpoche, Zawa Tulku, Lama Yeshe), some who have yet to return (Dagom Rinpoche, Khejok Rinpoche, Guru Deva Rinpoche) and only a few attained masters left to keep the lineage together while awaiting the next wave of teachers (Gangchen Rinpoche, Gonsar Rinpoche, Geshe Kelsang). Geshe-la singlehandedly with his students built up the New Kadampa Tradition which sadly, is possibly the only group of Dharma centers strongly propitiating Shugden's practice on a global scale. It is really very important for all us students to pray for Geshe-la's long life and good health that he remains with us at this critical time when the ban is still in place and not yet lifted.
Here's a nice tribute to Geshe-la, and I thank dorjeshugden.com for creating awareness and praying for Geshe-la's long life http://www.dorjeshugden.com/great-masters/tributes/a-tribute-to-geshe-kelsang-gyatso/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/great-masters/tributes/a-tribute-to-geshe-kelsang-gyatso/)
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Thanks for sharing the video clip, icy. Rejoice for the people who are so fortunate to be able to attend the teaching of such a illustrious teacher. There is just so much charisma radiating from Geshe la. It is no surprise that there are more than a thousand NKT centres worldwide due to Geshe la's care and kindness. It is a well known fact that Geshe Kelsang Gyatso Rinpoche has gone against the order of HHDL to stop worshipping Dorje Shugden because of the claim that Dorje Shugden is a demon. I find it very hard to believe that a demon worshipper (as accused by HHDL) has so much compassion and kindness in the tiny and frail body. Geshe la's advice to us to develop wisdom within us is greatly important. May I be able to have the wisdom and strength to continue with practice that my kind teacher have given me. I pray that Geshe la and all the great high lamas have good health and strong life to continue to guide all beings to liberation.
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It is very rejoicing to read that 7,000 Dorje Shugden practitioners congregated in one place at the same time. So beautiful to be able to receive teachings again on the Perfection of Wisdom Sutra in the breathtaking hills of Sintra with an explanation of how to use this teaching to solve the problems of daily life and accomplish deep inner peace. Buddha delivered on Massed Vultures Mountain in India over 2,500 years ago.
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I heard from a friend who attended saying it could have been more than 7000 people there! Imagine, more than 7000 Shugdenpa under one big tent and receiving such powerful teachings and empowerment. May Venerable Geshe Kelsang Gyatso live very long!
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Imagine 7000 teachers armed with Lamrim and Dorje Shugden, how powerful is that for NKT to go around the world spreading Nagarjuna's views and Lama Tsongkhapa way of practice.
CTA are you reading this now, you can't even get 7000 people to attend your rallies if it were not something that is related to the Dalai Lama. CTA Dorje Shugden has been unleashed to the world and there will be more and more benefit for everyone concerned. Get out of the way of the protector who will wield Manjushri's power on Earth.
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Venerable Geshe Kelsang’s teachings have touched the hearts and minds of many and he brought Dorje Shugden practice to so many which resulted in so many dharma centers flourishing worldwide. So how can Dorje Shugden practice be bad when it is flourishing rapidly and gaining more practitioners? And the big turn out of more than 7,000 DS practitioners there to attend his teachings! Venerable Geshe la is truly a practitioner of the correct lineage and I pray for his long life.
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Its fascinating how even in a country like Portugal, such huge crowd turned up for teaching by a Tibetan Lama. It's amazing how a religion typically associated with Asia is receiving such huge audience in Western countries today. If China did not invade Tibet this May not be the case. Tibetan Buddhism may not have spread across America and Europe like it is today. If Dalai Lama did not ban Dorje Shugden, it may remained a quiet practice in some Tibetan monastery and this website may not have started and all these information and tales of Dorje Shugden may continue to be unheard by many around the world.
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Buddhist Festival apart from the spiritual value it is very good to let the masses know that there is buddhist practitioners and teachings in a particular part of that world. Well especially in a non Buddhist nation like Portugal.
Rejoice that Geshela is still bring his bodhisattva like work all over the world and to show a great example for his students and people all over the world. He is so old yet he benefits others through his teachings and spreading Dorje Shugden lineage. May you live another billion years for migrators.
In the same breath can everyone see that despite the ban, Dorje Shugden is still spreading all over the world?
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Imagine 7000 teachers armed with Lamrim and Dorje Shugden, how powerful is that for NKT to go around the world spreading Nagarjuna's views and Lama Tsongkhapa way of practice.
Teachers who are equipped with powerful knowledge to transmit teachings, the essence of Tibet - Tibetan Buddhism. Nowadays, Tibetan Buddhism is not only for Tibetans. Look at teachers like Gen-la Kelsang Dekyong in video below. I am all for new age of Tibetan Buddhism - just Buddhism, minus the Tibetan politics. Don't you agree?
Each year, Gen-la Dekyong teaches at the International Festivals, National Festivals, and Dharma Celebrations throughout the world.
Resolva seus problemas com amor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chL86QtjWb8#ws)
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Drubchen Kelsang Gyatso Rinpoche will be 84, and has said they are older in the Tibetan calendar. Trijang Dorjechang left at age 81 by the western calendar. Let us pray he continues to be with us transmitting the blessings through teaching, but, if he does leave, the uncommon yoga teaching is quite the send off!
The uncommon yoga has traditionally only been allowed to be given to 3 or 7 people at a time and it was very difficult to receive. I believe it was put into a booklet from an oral transmission by Geshe Rabten (?) a long time ago. However, now, not only did Venerable Geshe-la prepare the sadhana, he made his own teaching notes into a booklet, and proceeded to give a detailed transmission publicly to 7000+ people, many of whom do not even have Highest Yoga Tantra empowerment. This is not only an indication of the times or his tremendous kindness to give it so when they do have initiation they can practice, but it is an indication that many people have amazing karma to achieve Dakiniland very soon, and that my friends is a very wonderful thing indeed!
I pray that Geshe-la stays with us to turn the Wheel of Dharma. It is a critical time for the lineage of Dorje Shugden with great reincarnated teachers of the past not yet coming into their prime (Kyabje Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche, Geshe Rabten, Domo Geshe Rinpoche, Denma Gonsar Rinpoche, Zawa Tulku, Lama Yeshe), some who have yet to return (Dagom Rinpoche, Khejok Rinpoche, Guru Deva Rinpoche) and only a few attained masters left to keep the lineage together while awaiting the next wave of teachers (Gangchen Rinpoche, Gonsar Rinpoche, Geshe Kelsang). Geshe-la singlehandedly with his students built up the New Kadampa Tradition which sadly, is possibly the only group of Dharma centers strongly propitiating Shugden's practice on a global scale. It is really very important for all us students to pray for Geshe-la's long life and good health that he remains with us at this critical time when the ban is still in place and not yet lifted.
Here's a nice tribute to Geshe-la, and I thank dorjeshugden.com for creating awareness and praying for Geshe-la's long life [url]http://www.dorjeshugden.com/great-masters/tributes/a-tribute-to-geshe-kelsang-gyatso/[/url] ([url]http://www.dorjeshugden.com/great-masters/tributes/a-tribute-to-geshe-kelsang-gyatso/[/url])
Indeed it is very important for us Dorje Shugden practitioners and students of our beloved lineage Gurus to actually join forces, come together to speak up and speak against this ridiculous ban on Dorje Shugden. Before Geshe-la passes... which is something inevitable, it would be nice if Geshe-la could leave this body knowing that the ban is lifted! All his hard work, his efforts, his fight for Dorje Shugden, for his own centre, spreading the lineage teachings would not gone to waste. Would be a great final offering to Geshe-la to hear that the ban is lifted and many sangha, people's lives saved, the pure teachings of Je Tsongkhapa can then spread further to benefit more people! It would so awesome to see this, where all Dorje Shugden practitioners and Masters collaborated and collectively congregate in a huge stadium to do a huge Dorje Shugden puja!
Wow imagine that?! All the Buddhas like Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche, Kyabje Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche, Geshe Rabten, Domo Geshe Rinpoche, Denma Gonsar Rinpoche, Zawa Tulku, Lama Yeshe in one huge stadium doing prayers together! It's like the superpowers of the divine gathered!
And we can definitely join forces to make this happen. Since the CTA wants to separate us Dorje Shugden practitioners from their so called "pure" sanghas/people. It's just logical and obvious for us DS brothers and sisters to join forces to bring the ban down through the various skilful peaceful means suggested on this site and spread Dorje Shugden's benefits even more to the world.
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I was recommended a book written by Geshe Kelsang on the simplified version of the lamrim when I first learned about Buddhism and studying it eventually. He writes these books with simplicity in lay language understood by simple minds and it opened up my mind. Geshe Kelsang had been an advocate against the BAN of Dorje Shugden while his students, lay community, dharma centers and his sangha members MULTIPLIES when he uphold the teachings of Dorje Shugden.
If Dorje Shugden is NOT an enlightened being and a dharmapala, all these dharma centers under Geshe Kelsang would NOT have mushroomed so well and the practice flourished all over the world.
It is clearly illogical to say that Dorje Shugden is an illegal practice under the BAN and the CTA is definitely wrong about Dorje Shugden's practice.
May Geshe Kelsang live long to over 100 years, be healthy and continue turning the wheel of dharma for DS.