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About Dorje Shugden => General Discussion => Topic started by: crazycloud on April 09, 2009, 02:55:15 AM
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...and what is he up to?
Anyone heard anything?
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Some information:
1. His Holiness Kyabje Pabongkha Choktrul Rinpoche resides permanently in Kathmandu, Nepal. He has a ladrang (private residence) there with his assistants and students.
2. He travelled a few times a year for many years now into Tibet to recieve precious transmission, teachings and rare commentaries from Kyabje Denma Konsa Rinpoche. Kyabje Konsa Rinpoche recently entered clear light. They are in process for searching for his unmistaken reincarnation.
3. Otherwise Pabongkha Rinpoche often travels to riwo tsenga or the 5 peaks of Manjushri, Shanxi Province in China. Rinpoche often travels there to engage in secluded retreats.
4. Rinpoche also travels to Shanghai to give dharma discourses to private citizens at the request of his patrons in small groups.
5. Currently, Rinpoche resides a few months out of the year in Beijing where he discourses to private citizens and engages in retreats.
6. The newly formed Serpom Norling Monastery has officially requested Kyabje Pabongkha Choktrul Rinpoche to ascend the throne as their first Abbot. Kyabje Pabongkha is considering and has not replied them yet.
I pray he accepts their request.
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I have been thinking about this, tell me what you think:
Sera was established by Jamchen Choje Sakya Yeshe in 1419 on the request of his teacher Je Tsongkhapa. Sakya Yeshe was the close disciple of Tsong Khapa who was a “replacement” sent by Tsongkhapa to mentor the Chinese Emperor Yongle of Ming Dynasty on behalf of Tsongkhapa.
He taught extensively in China, particularly in the Imperial court, converting many royal members and in Wu Tai Shan. When he returned to Lhasa from China, he bought along gifts from the emperor, including a set of Tangyur (canons of teachings spoken by Buddha) commissioned by the emperor, a set of 16 arhats, a sandalwood statue of the Buddha. These became the treasures of Sera, along with a Hayagriva statue said to have once spoken.
It was said that Pabongkha Rinpoche, hinted identification with this lama. I can’t remember the source for this, has anyone read about this before?.
Now we know that one of Pabongkha Rinpoche’s previous lives was also Changkya Rolpai Dorje, who served as Emperor Qianlong's main Buddhist teacher and adviser in matters related to Buddhism, including art, literature, religious initiations and practices, and diplomacy.
Pabongkha Chocktrul Rinpoche is now back and so he is definitely going to continue his holy mission of spreading teachings of Manjushri in the land where Manjushri is said to reside and that includes the holy protector Gyalchen Dorje Shugden.
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We are informed His Holiness Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche at this very moment is residing in Chengdu (Capital of Sichuan Province), China.
We wish him great success in his spreading of Dharma in China.
Mana
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It's ironic that the Lamas who are ostracised by TGIE, eg HH Pabongka Rinpoche and HE Gangchen Rinpoche, are welcomed by China. This news is similar to the other threads, i.e. the 5000 receiving DS initiation, which show that Dorje Shugden is being openly practiced in Tibet as part of China. Together with other monasteries in Tibet who are able to freely practice without discrimination, it is lovely to see that Dorje Shugden is becoming a mainstream practice in Tibet and China.
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In 1959, The Dalai Lama went to China to speak with Chairman Mao Zedong. Mao told His Holiness, "Religion is poison. ... Tibet and Mongolia have both been poisoned by it." That was part of the reason why from the beginning of 1956, the so-called "Democratic Reform" was carried out, first in Kham and Amdo, and later (from 1959) in Central Tibet. Monasteries, temples, and cultural centres were systematically looted of all articles of value and then dismantled. That happened purely because of politics.
Now, in the same lifetime of His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama, China is "welcoming" back the poison that they despise, installing their own Panchen Lama etc, also for political reasons. Such is impermanence!
One thing's for sure, the teachings of Manjushri will flourish again in the land of Manjushri's abode.
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It's ironic that the Lamas who are ostracised by TGIE, eg HH Pabongka Rinpoche and HE Gangchen Rinpoche, are welcomed by China. This news is similar to the other threads, i.e. the 5000 receiving DS initiation, which show that Dorje Shugden is being openly practiced in Tibet as part of China. Together with other monasteries in Tibet who are able to freely practice without discrimination, it is lovely to see that Dorje Shugden is becoming a mainstream practice in Tibet and China.
I think they send a strong message - the Chinese are just as in need of the Dharma, as the Tibetans. Once you can see everyone as equal and as human, how can you hurt someone who is basically the same as you?
Now, in the same lifetime of His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama, China is "welcoming" back the poison that they despise, installing their own Panchen Lama etc, also for political reasons. Such is impermanence!
Yeah that never made sense to me - kidnap one kid and spirit him away, and install your own...in an era where you claim that religion is poison. It's not just impermanence for me, but an example of how destructive selectiveness can be.
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I have the great fortune to meet HE Pabongka Rinpoche in Nepal in 2004 in his ladrang. I will never forget the audience with such a high lama.
May Pabongka Rinpoche live long and continue to turn the wheel of dharma to benefit more sentient beings wherever he goes.
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I have heard that even a Lama as great as Pabongka Rinpoche had many obstacles with sponsorship because of this DS issue. Promises to help build a monastery in Nepal were withdrawn because of his DS practice... He is very courageous to continue and, as with every high Lama, continue his great works in other places where there is also a growing need for Dharma (such as China, maybe).
With these lamas, if their works are suppressed in one, place they will simply find another place to make the teachings grow. So restrictions, bans... they don't mean too much to the enlightened mind!
Any more news as to his whereabouts would be very welcome.
I understand that Serpom had requested him to join them... have there been any further developments on this?
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I have heard that even a Lama as great as Pabongka Rinpoche had many obstacles with sponsorship because of this DS issue. Promises to help build a monastery in Nepal were withdrawn because of his DS practice... He is very courageous to continue and, as with every high Lama, continue his great works in other places where there is also a growing need for Dharma (such as China, maybe).
With these lamas, if their works are suppressed in one, place they will simply find another place to make the teachings grow. So restrictions, bans... they don't mean too much to the enlightened mind!
I love knowing what these great young lamas Trijang Rinpoche, Pabongka Rinpoche, Ling Rinpoche, Zong Rinpoche and many more are up to. Their previous incarnations have done incredibly beneficial works and I agree with you that no matter how these lamas are suppressed, they will simply manifest their works somewhere else.
This in itself is a great lesson...to see how attained beings work through obstacles, how they turn it into opportunities.
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I have been thinking about this, tell me what you think:
Sera was established by Jamchen Choje Sakya Yeshe in 1419 on the request of his teacher Je Tsongkhapa. Sakya Yeshe was the close disciple of Tsong Khapa who was a “replacement” sent by Tsongkhapa to mentor the Chinese Emperor Yongle of Ming Dynasty on behalf of Tsongkhapa.
He taught extensively in China, particularly in the Imperial court, converting many royal members and in Wu Tai Shan. When he returned to Lhasa from China, he bought along gifts from the emperor, including a set of Tangyur (canons of teachings spoken by Buddha) commissioned by the emperor, a set of 16 arhats, a sandalwood statue of the Buddha. These became the treasures of Sera, along with a Hayagriva statue said to have once spoken.
It was said that Pabongkha Rinpoche, hinted identification with this lama. I can’t remember the source for this, has anyone read about this before?.
Now we know that one of Pabongkha Rinpoche’s previous lives was also Changkya Rolpai Dorje, who served as Emperor Qianlong's main Buddhist teacher and adviser in matters related to Buddhism, including art, literature, religious initiations and practices, and diplomacy.
Pabongkha Chocktrul Rinpoche is now back and so he is definitely going to continue his holy mission of spreading teachings of Manjushri in the land where Manjushri is said to reside and that includes the holy protector Gyalchen Dorje Shugden.
I have not read or heard about Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche being Jamchen Choje Sakya Yeshe's incarnation. However, I read that he was the incarnation of Tsako Ngawang Drakpa, also a great student of Lama Tsongkhapa and a contemporary of Jamchen Choje Sakya Yeshe. Tsako Ngawang Drakpa built 108 monasteries in eastern Tibet culminating in the great Dhe-tsang Monastery in honor of his Guru, Lama Tsongkhapa. Dhe-tsang today is still standing and a great monastery propagating Dorje Shugden practice.
Here is a link to a writeup on him :- http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/index.php?s=Ngawang+Drakpa (http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/index.php?s=Ngawang+Drakpa)
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Thank you for clarifying Big Uncle. It's good that we can discuss/check on info like this on the forum. I think I could have got them mixed up ;D
I just remembered another interesting point that one of Pabongka Rinpoche's main disciples was Khangsar Rinpoche, and Khangsar Rinpoche has a Chinese disciple who started a Buddhist movement in China that survived till the present day.
Master Nenghai (1896-1967), was one of the important monk who permitted the spreading of Tibetan Gelugpa teachings among Han Chinese in the first half of the 20th century and he had studied under Khangsar Rinpoche in Drepung monasery in Lhasa.
According to his brief biography in Chinese, Master Nenghai was inspired to study Tibetan Buddhism because he read the index of Tibetan sutras in Yonghe Gong (Beijing Lama Temple).
For more information:
1. Revue d’Etudes Tibétaines, Table des Matières récapitulative des nos. 1-15
http://www.digitalhimalaya.com/collections/journals/ret/ret_contents.pdf
2. Master Nenghai's short biography in Chinese
http://baike.baidu.com/view/655864.htm
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I love Pabongkha Rinpoche! Anything news about the current incarnation of Pabongkha would really be great.
Triesa, you are so lucky that you had an audience with the current Pabongkha Rinpoche! What a great blessing that is!
Yes, it is amazing to read about all these great Lamas and yet alarming to find out that even great Masters such as them face immense obstacles. It is definitely not due to their bad karma for they can't possibly have any! So, it must be our collective bad karma. Even if we have the good fortune to meet with a Great Master, they can't even stay with us for long because we have not created the causes for their great works to manifest. Great Masters, Lamas and Gurus are really dependent on their students in this respect. They can't realise their fullest potential when we do not realise ours or transform ourselves. We are all inter-connected and inter-dependent in such a unique and delicate manner.
May all the great Masters and Gurus return and manifest again and again.
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I have the great fortune to meet HE Pabongka Rinpoche in Nepal in 2004 in his ladrang. I will never forget the audience with such a high lama.
May Pabongka Rinpoche live long and continue to turn the wheel of dharma to benefit more sentient beings wherever he goes.
Triesa, how lucky you are to have audience with Pabhongka Trulku. I visited Nepal in summer 2009 on a pilgrimage with some monk friends and actually visited his nepalese ladrang to make offerings. Unfortunately, he was not there at the time, and an assistant told us he was in China. a disappointment, but at least we had a chance to offer katag to his throne.
I don't think i will be visiting the East for a long time to come, but seeing your post brought back the memories! :)
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Buddhism can really makes my brain think.
TGIE always claims that because of China, they lost their country, this is fact , but is this just a political problem or some highly being had done something for the bigger picture? which means even by "losing" Tibet might be one of the plan too ?
TGIE might be thinking it's such a shame to lost their country, but think positively, it's because of the lost of Tibet, it's because H.H. Dalai Lama decided to left Tibet that brings "Tibet" to all around the world. It's because of H.H.'s actions brings million of people to the dharma, no matter they are sincere practitioner or just click into any dharma teacher website and browse, they do kept some imprints in them.
Same thing applied, because of this protector issues, many high lama have to choose to leave where they belong before, and because of this critical issue, high lama such as H.H. Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche , H.H. Pabongkha Chocktrul Rinpoche., H.E. Gangchen Rinpoche have to live outside the monastery, and it's because of a lots of high lamas not allowed to stay in the monastery, which create the courses for us the lay people to receive direct teaching to them.
So is it a really bad thing to lost Tibet? I'm not too sure, but it's very beneficial for us, the lay people to meet the high lama because of these issues. All the Buddha (high lama) will not mind to scarified anything as long as it's beneficial for all, so why are we keep our view so shallow, to me no matter people practice Dorje Shugden or praise to Dalai Lama or not, they don't care. But both of them brings Dharma and Tibet to all around the world, without we actually knowing that. And the result is in front of our eyes, so please do not criticize H.H. Dalai Lama or Lord Dorje Shugden, both of the holy beings is doing their job to benefit others.
Thanks
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I recently re-read about Pabongka Rinpoche here on this website: The Dorje Shugden – Dalai Lama Conflict (PART 3: Dorje Shugden after the time of the 5th Dalai Lama), http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=1404 (http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=1404) and thought about the relationship between the Tibetan government and Pabongka Rinpoche.
1. After internal political tensions in Lhasa came to a climax in 1751 with the execution of the secular leader Gyurme Namgyal ('gyur med rnam rgyal), The Chinese emperor Qianlong officially named the Dalai Lama the political and religious leader of Tibet. Rolpai Dorje's disciple and biographer Tukwan Lobzang Chokyi Nyima (thu'u bkwan 03 blo bzang chos kyi nyi ma, 1737-1802) asserts that this significant decision was largely due to Rolpai Dorje's advice.
2. In the “fulfillment/restoration” (kangso) ritual of Dorje Shugden, composed by Pabongka Rinpoche, one of the concluding verses impels him to fulfill the wishes of the Ganden Phodrang (Tibetan government) ,
"Whoever works for the reign and remporal power of the Ganden Palace [government], endowed with the eight sovereign powers, we enthrone you as the protector who grants easy accomplishments of whatever they wish and whatever peaceful or wrathful activities ..."
It was Pabongka Rinpoche's previous lives who helped Tibet to regain their governing power, and even the Dorje Shugden prayer he composed dedicates to the wishes of the Tibetan government.
Yet in return, the Tibetan government recognised him as the incarnation of an obscure monastery called Pabongka instead of his rightful title "Changkya" . This was because political relations with China was strained at one point and so the Tibetan government felt that giving the rightful recognition to the incarnation would resurrect further Chinese interference in Tibetan affairs.
In the late 70s, Pabongka Rinpoche's name, together with names of other outstanding masters were removed from common (lineage) prayers and paintings because of the Dorje Shugden conflict.
Why is it that such a "patriotic" master is seen as a threat to the government?
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I recently re-read about Pabongka Rinpoche here on this website: The Dorje Shugden – Dalai Lama Conflict (PART 3: Dorje Shugden after the time of the 5th Dalai Lama), [url]http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=1404[/url] ([url]http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=1404[/url]) and thought about the relationship between the Tibetan government and Pabongka Rinpoche.
1. After internal political tensions in Lhasa came to a climax in 1751 with the execution of the secular leader Gyurme Namgyal ('gyur med rnam rgyal), The Chinese emperor Qianlong officially named the Dalai Lama the political and religious leader of Tibet. Rolpai Dorje's disciple and biographer Tukwan Lobzang Chokyi Nyima (thu'u bkwan 03 blo bzang chos kyi nyi ma, 1737-1802) asserts that this significant decision was largely due to Rolpai Dorje's advice.
2. In the “fulfillment/restoration” (kangso) ritual of Dorje Shugden, composed by Pabongka Rinpoche, one of the concluding verses impels him to fulfill the wishes of the Ganden Phodrang (Tibetan government) ,
"Whoever works for the reign and remporal power of the Ganden Palace [government], endowed with the eight sovereign powers, we enthrone you as the protector who grants easy accomplishments of whatever they wish and whatever peaceful or wrathful activities ..."
It was Pabongka Rinpoche's previous lives who helped Tibet to regain their governing power, and even the Dorje Shugden prayer he composed dedicates to the wishes of the Tibetan government.
Yet in return, the Tibetan government recognised him as the incarnation of an obscure monastery called Pabongka instead of his rightful title "Changkya" . This was because political relations with China was strained at one point and so the Tibetan government felt that giving the rightful recognition to the incarnation would resurrect further Chinese interference in Tibetan affairs.
In the late 70s, Pabongka Rinpoche's name, together with names of other outstanding masters were removed from common (lineage) prayers and paintings because of the Dorje Shugden conflict.
Why is it that such a "patriotic" master is seen as a threat to the government?
Maybe its because the CTA feel that they should promote one lama as the figurehead/frontman for the Tibetan movement (which theyve done a good job of so far - people only associate 'Tibet' and 'Bhod rangzen' with His Holiness)... and Pabongka Rinpoches competition because he is very popular, so they dont want to support him and take support away from the Dalai Lama. The key is in what you said: "It was Pabongka Rinpoche's previous lives who helped Tibet to regain their governing power" - what if Pabongka Rinpoche helps to regain Tibet, and its not His Holiness? Anyway, the administration of the Dalai Lama have a history about being extremely thorough in their support of their leader...
For all the CTA bashing I do here, sometimes I can be a little harsh... in this case, perhaps their actions could honestly be well-intentioned (protect the Dalai Lama's image for the sake of Tibet) but just have the totally wrong effect, they all end up looking like backwards-thinking farmers.
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Buddhas are not bound by nationality, creed, they are Tibetans this life they can be Germans the next. I would term Pabongka Rinpoche as beneficial and not patriotic in this respect.
It was fortunate of me to have an audience with Pabongka Rinpoche, he did not speak much, but we as a group took picture together with him. Well If I wasn't such an ignoramus I would have known the author of the Lam Rim that i am studying was right in front of me then. Looking forward to hear more about Pabongka Rinpoche and his works in Chengdu, Sichuan.
OM BENZA WIKI BITTANNA SOHA!
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I've heard that Pabongka Rinpoche spends his time mainly in China. A year ago, he has told his ladrang personnel in Nepal that he will not want to have any audience with anyone who will asked him about his practice is DS and etc. He just want to teach without being question on his personal practice. Also whenever Pabongka Rinpoche is in Nepal, the TGIE will often send spies to stand outside his Ladrang to monitor his movements and they will record who visit him.
Therefore, I'm very happy to hear news that Pabongka Rinpoche is in China.
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Thanks for sharing Shugdenpromoter, I too am happy to hear about Pabongka Rinpoche's activities in China, and I wish there were more news.
May be it's not time yet for Rinpoche to make it public, but we can pray :D I hope this ban lifts soon and Changkya Rinpoche aka Pabongka Rinpoche can continue his work to connect the Chinese to Buddhadharma, just like his previous lives ;D
Also, about TGIE sending spies to stand outside Rinpoche's Ladrang in Nepal - perhaps the Ladrang staff should send the spies some Tibetan tea and tsampa, ;D
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I just had a thought today. If it is not about the Dorje Shugden issue, we might not even had a chance to hear a highly attained master name like Zong Rinpoche, Trijang Rinpoche and Pabongka Rinpoche if the practice that the monks do in monastery is considered sacred and higher tantric. With HHDL so well known in the world, how Tibetan Buddhism spread is incredible. And yet we heard so little about the reincarnated high Lamas who had accomplished such great noble work in their previous lives like Pabongka Rinpoche, Zong Rinpoche, Trijang Rinpoche and Ling Rinpoche etc...
Now we know that their reincarnations are among us and they reside in different parts of the work and giving teachings to smaller group whereas others high lamas who "declare" to practice dorje Shugden openly is building chapels, monastery and making statues of protector all around the world.
We are so lucky to have a foundation of dharma reading from their work from previous lives, now they are living among us. So when the time is right and when they are ready to "come out". I think thousands of people would have the fortunate of hearing dharma from these precious masters. Incredible!
How these high lamas are working hand in hand to benefit people. Rather than just sit in listening to the Tibet government debating, being suppressed and argue about an issue that have already had a solution. It is about benefiting people and not should not be whether a protector is an evil spirit or not.
Welcome back His Holiness Pabongka Rinpoche!
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It is rather sad that because of the Ban on Dorje Shugden great Lama incarnations of Trijang Rinpoche, Pabongka Rinpoche, Zong Rinpoche and Ling Rinpoche are not apparently in view to teach the greatness of Je Tsongkapa's doctrine.
The longer the Ban holds out, time is wasted for these great Lamas to propagate the Gelug tradition in 10 directions.
This is another suffering of great magnitude caused by the Ban that we may have overlooked. What a shame, let the Ban be lifted NOW!!!!!
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Guess we must all not forget that Tibet was not the only region that faced the terrible violence back in the 1950's and 60's. People should not forget the cultural Revolution that was within China itself. There are also other tribes and regions that faced violence. Please do not view the Tibetan struggle wearing blinkers or filters. China is very big geographically and diverse ethnically.
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Guess we must all not forget that Tibet was not the only region that faced the terrible violence back in the 1950's and 60's.
Actually many Buddhist countries have faced terrible violence from the West, and the violence back in the 1950's and 1960's is just a newer chapter following centuries-old, brutal British and French colonization victimizing millions of Buddhists.
Hundreds of thousands of innocent Buddhist civilians were victims of US nuclear terrorism in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Millions of Buddhist Koreans, Vietnamese, Cambodjans, and Laosians were exterminated by US carpet-bombing state terrorism. In South Korea, the survivors underwent mass conversion to the occupiers' Christianity.
Tibet, just as Myanmar and Sri Lanka, therefore, have been just other some more targets of this macabre, relentless, Western-promoted genocidal mass extermination, enslavement, and forced conversion of Buddhists.
In cahoots with Saudi Arabian sponsored, Islamic State terrorists, Christian, Jewish-controlled Western powers do their best to bring the chaos to Buddhist Myanmar and Sri Lanka, always with the approval of their puppet, the Muslim-born, evil dalie lame.
As Buddhists, we should therefore rejoice that Buddhism is now well protected from Western Abrahamic terrorism, extermination and forced conversions, and flourishes in countries such as North Korea and China, including Tibet.
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I cannot recall any period in the history of the world that the world was totally at peace. That is the nature of samsara. Certainly even now. That Buddhist were killed or persecuted is definitely a true statement but I do not recall a historic event that this is done with the aim of persecuting Buddhism except perhaps at the time of the Buddha himself.
My point is human commit atrocity base on their egos and "righteousness". The basis came be religion, race, geography and money. Buddhism and Hinduism are not at the top of the basis for these events. Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Nazism and Communism has been the basis of much more atrocities. Nazism of course is evil all by itself.
Hence, the current persecution of Dorje Shugden practitioners is a unique event.
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I do not recall a historic event that this is done with the aim of persecuting Buddhism
Probably you missed, or was inattentive to, all of your classes about the last two millennia of Asian History.
Buddhists and Buddhism have been persecuted by Hindus in India since the 2nd century CE; by Zoroastrians in Persia in the 3rd century CE; by Manichaean Hephtalite Huns in Central Asia and Northwestern India in the 5th and 6th centuries CE; by different Chinese Emperors in China in the 6th, 9th, and 10th centuries CE; by king Landarma in Tibet in the 9th century CE; by British and French colonialists in Sri Lanka and Vietnam in the previous two centuries; by Chinese Muslim warlords such as Bai Chongxi and Ma Bufang, and by Communist Cultural Revolutionaries, in the last century; by Christians in South Korea nowadays under our nose; and, of course by Muslims in India, Central Asia and Indonesia, starting in the 12th century or before, who razed Mahabodhi, Nalanda, Vikramashila, Odantapuri, and almost every trace of Buddhist culture, society, and civilization in such countries and regions.
To put it mildly, yours is just an uninformed, irresponsible statement.
And as to the US nuclear and carpet bombings decimating millions of Buddhists and razing countless Buddhist shrines in Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodjia, while not officially self-described as an attempt to exterminate Buddhism, worked precisely as such, which is hardly a coincidence, considering that such massacres and razing of Buddhist temples where the brainchildren of synagogue-going Jews such as Bernard Baruch, Henry Kissinger, and others.
Nazism of course is evil all by itself.
The funny thing here is that every single evil element in “Nazism”, such as the belief in racial superiority and inherent land rights, find their roots in Judaism. Meanwhile, German National Socialists implemented many beneficial laws protecting workers, women, children, and animals, which belies widespread stereotypes spread by war hate propaganda.
Also atrocious Islamic State practices, such as gruesome death punishment by stoning and decapitation, massacring of women and children, taking young girls as sexual slaves, and so forth, find their roots not in Hitler's Mein Kampf, but in the Jewish Old Testament, the gruesome manual of terrorism also accepted and venerated by Christians and Muslims.
Therefore, one might want to get rid of propaganda and ask oneself what is “all evil by itself”.
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It is always good to have news of the high lamas of Tibetan Buddhism. So much, anguish and sorrow surrounding the ban. But, I guess divulging the whereabouts of the high lamas may be detrimental to their safety. The lay practitioners need to hear of and from the high lamas to help them keep faith and hope. Samsara is tough and the maras are pervasive. Not all are that strong to withstand the onslaught of the anti-shudeners and come out unscathed.
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I still have great hopes of hearing more activities of Je Pabongka, I would like to hear about Pabongka Rinpoche not only just because he is a lama who loyally stuck to Dorje Shugden and the practices. Je Pabongka had so much difficulties from the anti dorje shugden side taking away some of his sponsors who were from Taiwan, there is still hope for us to hear of Pabongka Rinpoche in his life time, I do know that there is still work to be done By Je Pabongka thats why despite so much difficulties Pabongka Rinpoche have not left for the pure lands.
He was the Gaden Oral Lineage holder previously and I am sure he can play the same role in the future again. Plus what a blessing it will be for the many people to hear the Lamrim as expounded by Je Pabongka.
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Je Pabongka with Denma Gonsa Rinpoche.
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I also hear that the current incarnation of Pabongka Rinpoche is now in China, and staying very low profile because of this Dorje Shugden issue. I have also read somewhere that in one of Pabongka Rinpoche's previous incarnations that He is being heavily suppressed by the administration and they only give Pabongka Rinpoche a smaller incarnation.
I am quite sure Pabongka Rinpoche is not the only one who is suppress by the administration due to political reasons. I pray we can leave the politics out of religion.