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About Dorje Shugden => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mana on September 04, 2011, 10:59:22 AM
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Before the passing of His Holiness Kyabje Denma Gonsa Rinpoche, he said his next incarnation will recognize itself. When the next incarnation comes, the young boy will be able to recite the ROOT TEXT OF GUHYASAMAJA without learning it spontaneously. When this boy proves himself by doing this, then you can be sure it is the correct incarnation. Amazing. Do you know how intricate and long the root text is? Imagine this incarnation as a young child spontaneously reciting this. Something he learned from his previous life. Reincarnation is real. Reincarnated lamas are genuine and this phenomena continues into the 21st Century. Tulkus are very unique system of continuing the teachings.
His Eminence Gangchen Rinpoche was in Denma Gonsa Monastery in Kham recently. Gangchen Rinpoche spoke to the Shudgen through the Oracle. Shugden revealed to Gangchen Rinpoche His Holiness Denma Gonsa Rinpoche has taken rebirth and his incarnation is with us. Very good news. The next step will be the official recognition. Another great Tulku reincarnates back to spread the Doctrine of Tsongkapa. Gangchen Rinpoche made this announcement to the happy sangha and crowd.
We rejoice at this news.
Mana
Denma Gonsa Rinpoche's Monastery houses the largest Dorje Shugden statue in the world:
http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/index.php?s=denma+gonsa+
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Rejoicing ! ;D
Will he be joining Shar gaden or Serpom or other monastrys i wonder ?
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What amazing news about His Holiness Kyabje Denma Gonsa Rinpoche's incarnation! Thank you for the sharing re Gangchen Rinpoche's conversation with Dorje Shugden via the Oracle. What an amazing conversation that must be!!!
Re the incarnation of His Holiness Kyabje Denma Gonsa Rinpoche being able to recite the root text of Guhyasamaja spontaneously would be something truly inexplicable and miraculous and i look forward to hearing about this. This would be truly another conclusive evidence of reincarnation by control which skeptics are always asking for.
Fantastic.
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Wow! That's truly awesome and great news!! "His Holiness Denma Gonsa Rinpoche has taken rebirth and his incarnation is with us."....a remarkable Tulku. Looking forward for more information in due time. :D
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:D :D
thanks for sharing this great news! Rejoice :D
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Thank you Mana! It is indeed great news for all Dorje Shugden practitioners. Denma Gonsa Rinpoche is indeed one of the finest High Lamas of Tibetan Buddhism. His attainments and contribution to Buddhism is without limit. I am truly amazed and am glad that he promotes Dorje Shugden and the realisation of his instruction with the the construction of the huge statue of Dorje Shugden is truly amazing! If such an attained Lama promotes Dorje Shugden on this level, he must see that we all need Dorje Shugden and that Dorje Shugden practice is extremely efficacious for our time.
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Extracted from http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=490 (http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=490)
Kyabje Denma Gonsa Rinpoche passed away last year. He told his main attendents before passing away that a few boys will be claimed to be his incarnation. But the real incarnation will recognize himself. He will recite the Root tantra of Guhyasamaja from memory perfectly. Only enthrone this boy as my real incarnation.
From what i understand, it is common to have a few candidates displaying certain remarkable characteristics who could pass as a certain incarnation. It is amazing Denma Gonsa Rinpoche states so clearly what characteristics/ability this boy will be displaying for him to the the real incarnation. Perhaps there will be political issues surrounding the search and recognition of this new incarnation? How compassionate Denma Gonsa Rinpoche is to reveal ahead of time to the students involved in finding his incarnation.
I will be looking out for more news! much thanks
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Very good news indeed.
Reciting the root text of the Guhyasamaya Tantra......WOW!
Reminds me of Sakya Pandita being able to recite one of the longer Prajnaparamita texts as a child...in Sanskrit no less. :)
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Denma Gonsar Rinpoche is a great senior lama and student of both Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche and
Pabongkha Dechen Nyingpo. He transmitted the pure teachings to his district people and 600 monks of his
monastery. This great monastery houses a 12-storey high main image of Je Tsongkhapa and has a beautiful
Chapel to Dorje Shugden. Dorje Shugden is the main Dharma protector of this vast monastery in Kham.
It was reported that when the massive earthquake hit Qinghai (which is Kham district) in 2010, everywhere was affected except Denma Gonsar Rinpoche's monastery. Majority of the Tibetans living in that area who has given up their Shugden practice due to the influence of TGIE has started to rethink about their decision as the earthquake showed them very clearly that Shugden and the strong samaya of the student and teacher relationship has kept the monastery safe and protected.
I'm very happy to hear that Denma Gonsar Rinpoche is back and I cannot wait to hear more news about his new incarnation.
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Wow, this is very great news indeed! I too rejoice.Thank you for sharing it, Mana. Imagine when the new incarnation is officially recognized and he spontaneously recites the whole Root Text of Guhyasamaja......!! This will clearly establish the undeniable truth that Tulkus continue to return , even in the 21st century, to continue their lineage teachings.This will also renew faith and conviction in oracles, especially the Shugden oracle.
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Denma Gonsar Rinpoche is a great senior lama and student of both Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche and
Pabongkha Dechen Nyingpo. He transmitted the pure teachings to his district people and 600 monks of his
monastery. This great monastery houses a 12-storey high main image of Je Tsongkhapa and has a beautiful
Chapel to Dorje Shugden. Dorje Shugden is the main Dharma protector of this vast monastery in Kham.
It was reported that when the massive earthquake hit Qinghai (which is Kham district) in 2010, everywhere was affected except Denma Gonsar Rinpoche's monastery. Majority of the Tibetans living in that area who has given up their Shugden practice due to the influence of TGIE has started to rethink about their decision as the earthquake showed them very clearly that Shugden and the strong samaya of the student and teacher relationship has kept the monastery safe and protected.
I'm very happy to hear that Denma Gonsar Rinpoche is back and I cannot wait to hear more news about his new incarnation.
I have heard the same thing re the earthquake in Qinghai. What I also heard is that after the incident, many locals began to have faith in Dorje Shugden, and his practice is growing in that area. A student of Pabongka Rinpoche Dechen Nyingpo, Denma Gonsar Rinpoche was one of the great lineage holders of Dorje Shugden - just look at his monastery, which has huge statues of Tsongkapa and Dorje Shugden to see what a strong practitioner he is.
So much for those who claim Dorje Shugden is a spirit and that those who propitiate him will go to the three lower realms. What more proof do they need before they realise Dorje Shugden IS enlightened and a Buddha?
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So much for those who claim Dorje Shugden is a spirit and that those who propitiate him will go to the three lower realms. What more proof do they need before they realise Dorje Shugden IS enlightened and a Buddha?
Thor I dont think they are LOOKING for proof to realise anything, I think theyre quite happy with the way they are. Why? Because theyre not following the Dalai Lamas advice based on their own conclusions or on facts or logic, but on pure blind faith. See, if they were doing it based on logic, they wouldnt be anti-Dorje Shugden as it is so thered be no need to try and convince them.
I dont think the matter is so much about trying to convince people over to "our side" but about how we follow whats been taught by our teachers, regardless of whats been said by other more famous lamas.
Anyway, to all the anti-Shugdenites - if you dont want to practise my beliefs the least you can do is respect me enough to leave me alone to them. Think of it this way, if Im in my house cooking my dinner yeah, whats it got to do with you? Are you going to come into my house and demand I make something else for MY dinner? Same concept.
And if you cant respect me for my beliefs, then at least have compassion - if Dorje Shugden really IS a demon, then why not have compassion for me because I supposedly will be going down to the three lower realms?
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This is wonderful announcement and a further proof that propitiating dorje shugden bring about beneficial results. There don't seem to be a lot of information in English about Denma Gonsa Rinpoche but the fact his monastery houses the biggest Dorje Shugden in the world says a lot about this great lama. The people in Qinghai who initially said negative things about the protector after the massive earthquake in Qinghai in which nothing happened to the monastery, they then developed reverence and faith in the protector. Rejoice for the unending Gaden tradition.
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Wonderful news! Many high attained masters are reincarnated back. It has only proven reincarnation is possible. On the other hand, Dorje Shugden practice is going to spread wide and wild! All highly attained masters under the lineage of Shugden's practice are either undergoing study, reincarnated or keeping a low profile. When the time comes, Dorje Shugden will be the protector of our time. The ban will subside and eventually so many people will get to know about the protector and get benefited :)
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This is quite amazing, how imprints of past lives can be carried on to this life. I never used to believe in reincarnation, but more and more things I read and learn seems to prove my previous thoughts wrong!
Imagine a young boy being able to recite something so profound from memory. Denma Gonsa Rinpoche proves that reincarnation is real, and I am really looking forward to when He is officially recognized.
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What I find amazing is the whole Tulku system and that this phenomena is still happening now in the 21st century must say something to sceptics. Denma Gonsar Rinpoche and many high Lamas know when they are passing and when they will return and even guide us to look for their incarnation is a huge proof that continuity and controlling of mind stream is a fact not fiction.
I also find it particularly interesting what a close relationship Gangchen Rinpoche and Dorje Shugden has that DS would tell such sacred news to Gangchen Rinpoche... it is as if Gangchen Rinpoche's role is to discover highly attained lamas who practices Dorje Shugden so that they can continue the legacy to spread DS. Seems like Gangchen Rinpoche's mission is unlocking the doors to DS practised masters....how intricately woven the roles of each great master. Facinating!
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This is really a Wonderful new. Another greatest lama have taken rebirth, and his new reincarnation will be found very soon. Once again this is proven whoever that practice DS will not goes into 3 lower realms but yet taking rebirth in between us to benefit others.
HH Dalai Lama is getting older day by day, I do not have any disrespect to HH, but one day when HH will enter clear light, and it will be the time the ban will be clear, it will be the time for DS's practice to spread.
Let's say if HH will stay with us for another 10 years, and that time will also be the great time for HH Trijang Rinpche to teach and spread the DS's practice. By the time, the ban will be clear, a new school of teaching will be up, and when HH Trijang Rinpoche is getting older later, will be the best time for Denma Gonsa Rinpoche to teach, the lineage will continue pasting down to the new generation.
This is how I think, all the high lama have pre-meditate their life, there must have a reason why they choose to taking rebirth on certain time.
I hope this will happen in the future so our lineage will continue benefit a lot.
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Everyones so happy that Denma Gonsar Rinpoche has reincarnated but lets not forget - there is reincarnation and then there is creating the merit to sustain the lama receiving the proper training. Prime example is Lama Yeshe... fantastic lama who benefited millions but what happened with Lama Osel? I dont mean that disrespectfully because I know Lama Osel can return to the Dharma any time he chooses, and any time his students create the causes for such but FPMT lost their connection with their teacher when they gave up his heart practice.
Were all taught that when you form a teacher-student relationship, its from both ways. The student has to check out the teacher to see they are acting out of compassion, and not out of ego. And the teacher has to check out the student because its a heavy responsibility to guide them for aeons all the way to enlightenment...
And when it comes to teachers passing into clear light, our teachers have the ability to prolong their lives but do we have the merits for them to remain with us? So likewise, our teachers may reincarnate, but we do have the merits for them to remain with us?