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About Dorje Shugden => General Discussion => Topic started by: DharmaSpace on August 03, 2011, 02:54:18 PM
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His Holiness Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche is travelling throughout China and Tibet these days, quietly giving audience to many and teachings to those who are fortunate enough to meet him.
"I had the great honour to be in the presence of Pabongka Rinpoche a few years back. Then ignorant me did not even who I was in the presence of?" I do hope I have the chance to hear more of this great lama and his great great works.
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Dharma Space - how fortunate you are to have the merit to meet Heruka himself! Did you see shadows of Red Ladies too? (Many have reported seeing Red Ladies in his place; in a blink of an eye, the lady disappears and they then see Pabongka Rinpoche in her place...!)
There's a collection of biographical articles about Pabongka Rinpoche here: http://dorjeshugden.com/articles/KyabjePabongkaRinpoche.pdf
I have been fascinated with his story - there is so much about his humility, lifelong devotion, study, practice and teaching; and at the same time there are wonderful accounts of miracles that happen around him. It is wonderful to imagine his teachings - he was known for being able to teach both sangha and laypeople perfectly, even the most technical and complex topics, and famous for his gentleness and care for every single person who came to seek audience with him. Even photos of him are so radiant!
Do read the articles everyone, come back and tell us what aspects you've loved most about his biography. It'll make you appreciate it all the more the next time you may have the lottery luck to have audience with Pabongka, like Dharma Space!
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Awesome and how lucky you are DharmaSpace to have met Heruka himself... surely there was a great blessing whether you knew or not makes no difference.
One of the greatest thing I love about Pabonka Rinpoche is that he had nothing and he became Greatness!
Pabongka Rinpoche was not a high ranking at all and was even considered as a low ranking person when he first started. Pabongka Rinpoche himself often shared how poor he was when he was young.
Pabongka himself would tell his story... “When I was young, I had nothing, no wealth at all and on top of that, no food to eat. Everybody had at least a little bag with barley-flour. For several days, I couldn’t get any food. I ran from Sera Monastery down to the sand, filled my bag with sand, and put a little barley on top to smell and taste a bit. I lived on that for several days. This is what I did and look what I am today.”
Can you imagine Pabongka ate sand?! This made me realise that really nothing in life is impossible!
Only much later when he became very popular that he was offered a little retreat-area by the Ngakpa College of Sera Mey Monastery. They offered him a large retreat complex on the hillside above Pabongka. The name of this hermitage was Tashi Chuling, or “Auspicious Spiritual Isle”. Pabongka built a small meditation cell around the mouth of a cave located near his residence. When he was not busy on the road for his extensive teaching tours, he would retreat for long periods of time to do his private practice and meditations.
Another great aspect was indeed his pure deep Guru Devotion that he would actually prostrate at the sight of his Guru, Dagpo Rinpoche's monastery and he would walk backwards when He leave.
These simple humbling aspect of Pabongka Rinpoche gives us great inspiration and amazing how a Great Master like Pabongka Rinpoche could be so gentle and humble, and that is the very reasons why his teaching is real...
There is so many great qualities that would put us in awe and of course Him pioneering Dorje Shugden practice throughout Tibet... how would He be wrong? How could Heruka spread something that is wrong???
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Awesome and how lucky you are DharmaSpace to have met Heruka himself... surely there was a great blessing whether you knew or not makes no difference.
One of the greatest thing I love about Pabonka Rinpoche is that he had nothing and he became Greatness!
Pabongka Rinpoche was not a high ranking at all and was even considered as a low ranking person when he first started. Pabongka Rinpoche himself often shared how poor he was when he was young.
Pabongka himself would tell his story... “When I was young, I had nothing, no wealth at all and on top of that, no food to eat. Everybody had at least a little bag with barley-flour. For several days, I couldn’t get any food. I ran from Sera Monastery down to the sand, filled my bag with sand, and put a little barley on top to smell and taste a bit. I lived on that for several days. This is what I did and look what I am today.”
Can you imagine Pabongka ate sand?! This made me realise that really nothing in life is impossible!
Only much later when he became very popular that he was offered a little retreat-area by the Ngakpa College of Sera Mey Monastery. They offered him a large retreat complex on the hillside above Pabongka. The name of this hermitage was Tashi Chuling, or “Auspicious Spiritual Isle”. Pabongka built a small meditation cell around the mouth of a cave located near his residence. When he was not busy on the road for his extensive teaching tours, he would retreat for long periods of time to do his private practice and meditations.
Another great aspect was indeed his pure deep Guru Devotion that he would actually prostrate at the sight of his Guru, Dagpo Rinpoche's monastery and he would walk backwards when He leave.
These simple humbling aspect of Pabongka Rinpoche gives us great inspiration and amazing how a Great Master like Pabongka Rinpoche could be so gentle and humble, and that is the very reasons why his teaching is real...
There is so many great qualities that would put us in awe and of course Him pioneering Dorje Shugden practice throughout Tibet... how would He be wrong? How could Heruka spread something that is wrong???
There are so many stories like this...even the one of Lama Yeshe. I mean people made fun of him, that he was not a geshe and he was "no one" and had no qualifications, and he was crazy to spread Dharma to the yellow heads.
Sorry but if you look at the lamas who are doing the greatest work in the West (and no disrespect to those who have the qualifications!), they always seem to be the ones with no recognised qualifications, or have people analysing their qualifications. I mean case in point, Geshe-la, anybody?
That is actually what I love about Lama Tsongkapas tradition, the emphasis on humility. The fact that all these lamas are "no one" (from a qualifications point of view) but are so clearly attained, and bring so much benefit to people, but still act like they are nothing and have nothing, really makes us think twice about our own arrogance.
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I am still fascinated by the stories of Pabongka Rinpoche (previous incarnation) contemplating on the lamrim teachings for ten years!
For I have learned it over a much lesser period of time and sometimes, I must admit, felt rather arrogant about it...
This is the difference between the academical knowledge of lamrim and the realized knowledge of lamrim.
The first leads to more arrogance, the second to more humility.
The first brings no beneficial result, or so little, the second leads to enlightenment.
I am really happy to hear the the current incarnation of Pabongka is spreading the Dharma further.
I can't wait to see these great Masters, like also Trijang Rinpoche or Zong Rinpoche blossom when the ban on Dorje Shugden is lifted and a NEW WAVE of spiritual practice takes on the spiritual seekers of all continents.
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Another great aspect of Pabongka is that he was asked by Heruka and Vajrayogini to combine the Sakya Vajrayogini teachings with the techniques that Tsongkhapa had given for the Heruka practice.
One of the most important benefits of Vajrayogini practice is that she represents the swiftest path to Enlightenment and one would gain control over their death and birth. At the point of death, one does not lose control over the entire process, but will gain control instead. Due to this, we do not have to go into uncontrolled ordinary bardo and ordinary rebirth either.
And Pabongka Rinpoche actually created the link of an unbroken lineage from the Sakya tradition to Lama Tsongkhapa tradition and made the connection, and made it simple enough for the future, which is now, current people...He also added the Ganden Nyengyu which means not only oral, but it is a sort of teaching that is not given in public. Pabongka combined all these techniques and made it accessible for us lazy people to be able to practice Vajrayogini that is short and requires a lot less effort.
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It is also said that Vajrayogini appeared to Pabongka in a vision several times. And in one of those visions, Pabongka was had direct initiation by Vajrayogini. She promised Pabongka that those who received Vajrayogini from him/his lineage for the next four generations, they would be taken to Kechara Paradise within seven lifetimes. The usual is 14 lifetimes. It is literally cut in half!
So anyone who received the Vajrayogini initiation from Pabongka Rinpoche's lineage (following the four generations) will be granted these special privilege... amazing!
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One of the greatest thing I love about Pabonka Rinpoche is that he had nothing and he became Greatness!
Pabongka Rinpoche was not a high ranking at all and was even considered as a low ranking person when he first started. Pabongka Rinpoche himself often shared how poor he was when he was young.
Pabongka himself would tell his story... “When I was young, I had nothing, no wealth at all and on top of that, no food to eat. Everybody had at least a little bag with barley-flour. For several days, I couldn’t get any food. I ran from Sera Monastery down to the sand, filled my bag with sand, and put a little barley on top to smell and taste a bit. I lived on that for several days. This is what I did and look what I am today.”
Can you imagine Pabongka ate sand?! This made me realise that really nothing in life is impossible!
Pabongka's story is exceptional because it shows us the potential that every single one of us can have. Being called "dull" doesn't necessarily mean you are! and that having the most basic qualities of guru devotion and determination can bring you a long, long, long way. Not excelling in one aspect (like academic studies) does not mean the end-all. There is plenty else to excel in and many routes up to the top of mount meru. pabongka shows us a perfect example of this. How kind he is to manifest this to us, to give us so much hope and energy for our own practice.
The gelugpa lineage is very "democratic" in this way. there is a saying that even a farmer's boy can rise to become the greatest Lama in the land!
So if any of us are feeling down or bullied by people who tell us that we're not good enough, wave them off with a good mudra and remember that the very reason millions of people can practice today is because of one of Tibet's greatest lamas who was called "dull" when he first started out.
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One of the greatest thing I love about Pabonka Rinpoche is that he had nothing and he became Greatness!
Pabongka Rinpoche was not a high ranking at all and was even considered as a low ranking person when he first started. Pabongka Rinpoche himself often shared how poor he was when he was young.
Pabongka himself would tell his story... “When I was young, I had nothing, no wealth at all and on top of that, no food to eat. Everybody had at least a little bag with barley-flour. For several days, I couldn’t get any food. I ran from Sera Monastery down to the sand, filled my bag with sand, and put a little barley on top to smell and taste a bit. I lived on that for several days. This is what I did and look what I am today.”
Can you imagine Pabongka ate sand?! This made me realise that really nothing in life is impossible!
Pabongka's story is exceptional because it shows us the potential that every single one of us can have. Being called "dull" doesn't necessarily mean you are! and that having the most basic qualities of guru devotion and determination can bring you a long, long, long way. Not excelling in one aspect (like academic studies) does not mean the end-all. There is plenty else to excel in and many routes up to the top of mount meru. pabongka shows us a perfect example of this. How kind he is to manifest this to us, to give us so much hope and energy for our own practice.
The gelugpa lineage is very "democratic" in this way. there is a saying that even a farmer's boy can rise to become the greatest Lama in the land!
So if any of us are feeling down or bullied by people who tell us that we're not good enough, wave them off with a good mudra and remember that the very reason millions of people can practice today is because of one of Tibet's greatest lamas who was called "dull" when he first started out.
Dear Beggar,
Thank you for that very inspirational explanation and I do find that democratic aspect of the Gelug tradition rather refreshing and very Buddhist. It allows very ordinary monks to put their great debates, knowledge and meditational experience into practice and bring tremendous benefit. Today, there are so many detractors of 'organized religion' and many upon observing the hierarchy within the monastery would be so quick to dismiss it as something bad.
They don't realize the entire hierarchy allows for great monks elected through democratic means to manifest their attainments when they take up office. Many great incarnations within the monastic system began initially as ordinary monks, elected by the monastery due to their exemplary conduct, knowledge and wisdom. This is highly encouraging to ordinary lay practitioners as well to be sincere in their practice and to gain great attainments.
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Dear Begger,
Thank you for the explanation, I do assume that every great lama will not always shows how powerful they are and most of the time, they will be very humble and look “dull”. But by acting dull doesn’t mean they are really dull or useless, mainly the reason is because they are not chasing after any luxury life, or to pursue any career achievement, they are very simple and the only motivation they have is to spread dharma and to help people to liberate from suffering. Great Lamas are always very compassion
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Dear Begger,
Thank you for the explanation, I do assume that every great lama will not always shows how powerful they are and most of the time, they will be very humble and look “dull”. But by acting dull doesn’t mean they are really dull or useless, mainly the reason is because they are not chasing after any luxury life, or to pursue any career achievement, they are very simple and the only motivation they have is to spread dharma and to help people to liberate from suffering. Great Lamas are always very compassion
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Also, I read that Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche achieved Bodhichitta while meditating at his Guru's monastery. Hereafter, his Guru ordered that a throne be set up for Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche. It was also at this time that he was starting to become very famous with his public teachings. Just because he was dull doesn't mean he will stay dull. I am sure Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche was not stupid and he was just manifesting that as a teaching for all of us. I think it was the blessings of his Guru and his training that he achieved Bodhichitta and became who is now known today. Amazing achievement!
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Lamrim - Liberation in the palm by Pabongka Rinpoche is such a great text. I have a lot of friends who studied Lamrim by other authors told me that it is so difficult to understand, but the Lamrim by Pabongka Rinpoche has been structured in such a way it is much easier for lay person like us to study.
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If you would want to learn more about Pabongkha Rinpoche, do read the book called Chod of the Ganden Tradition by Zong Rinpoche. There he explains that one of Pabongkha's previous incarnations include the Mahasiddha Krishnapada who "missed" his chance to go to the pure lands when the Yidams manifested as actual people to try to invite him to there. Normally it would be the dakinis or the dharma protectors, but in Krishnapada's case, it was the actual Yidams.
Yamantaka appeared as a dark colored man outside of the retreat cave of Krishnapada and kept trying to convince him to come out and if he did, he would have been taken to the pure land. Vajrayogini came and invited him in the form of a leper lady who asked for his help to cross the river, but his disciple helped her instead and was carried by Vajrayogini to Kechara. So in that way, Krishnapada "did not manage to go to the pure lands".
To some people, this might seem to be that Krishnapada made the mistake of not going to the pure lands and attain enlightenment, but this is not true. It takes a lot and a lot of compassion and strength to resist the peace and quiet of the pure lands in exchange for the nightmare that is samsara, teaching students, training them, having to face all sorts of problems with them and giving teachings to people who are resistant…
In reality, Krishnapada avoided the pure lands and yidams on purpose because his compassion for beings in samsara was strong enough to resist the peace and ease of the pure lands. The fact that the actual Yidams themselves came to invite Krishnapada shows you what kind of being he is. And he is Pabongkha Rinpoche today.
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Sometimes, I am amazed about how high lamas such as Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche, Zong Rinpoche, Trijang Rinpoche left such great legacies of teachings that still can be accessed until today. Even reading their work, their thoroughness, I am in awe. To meet such great beings in persons is definitely a great fortune.
However, in the end, we can make the best use of their legacies by studying, comtemplating, work to spread the teachings, making them accessible to people who otherwise will not have access to them, and applying them on our lives.
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Sometimes, I am amazed about how high lamas such as Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche, Zong Rinpoche, Trijang Rinpoche left such great legacies of teachings that still can be accessed until today. Even reading their work, their thoroughness, I am in awe. To meet such great beings in persons is definitely a great fortune.
However, in the end, we can make the best use of their legacies by studying, comtemplating, work to spread the teachings, making them accessible to people who otherwise will not have access to them, and applying them on our lives.
I agree with you. So that is why it is important to follow the advice of HHDL.
His advice is always for our benefit. It serves him in no way at all.
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The Great Kyabje Pabongkha Rinpoche; He who is one with Heruka!
Non-Buddhists make Brahma, Indra, Shiva, and so forth, their refuge, yet those gods are still not liberated from samsara and the lower realms so they cannot protect other beings. But Buddha, the teacher of Buddhists is not like these. Praise to the Praiseworthy says:
You proclaimed, 'I am a friend
To you who are without protection'.
Your great compassion embraces all beings,
Teacher, you have great compassion,
You have love; you act by your love.
You are diligent, you are not lazy.
Who else could be like you?
You are the protector of all sentient beings;
You are a kind relative to all.
The above teaching is an excerpt from Liberation In The Palm of your Hand, by Kyabje Pabongkha Rinpoche. It is published by Wisdom Publications, the FPMT publishing company. Hmmm, they condemn Heruka himself but publish his works. Am I missing something here?????
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Pabongka Rinpoche's name was Kyabje Pabongka Jetsun Jampa Tenzin Trinlay Gyatso Pel Sangpo.He is also popularly known as "Dechen Nyingpo" which means "essence of Great Bliss"and refers to his mastery of the secret teachings of Buddhism.He was probably the most influential Gelug lama of this century,holding all the important lineages of sutra and tantra and passing them on to the important Gelug lamas of the next two generations.He had an ability to reach even those of thr higher echelons of society who were not much interest in Dharma.An emanations of Heruka Chakrasamvara,but degeneration of the times and jealousy of ordinary beings have made it difficult to become aware of his tremendous qualities.It was said that if you received a teaching from a Gelug Lama.you have been influenced by Pabongka Rinpoche,the geat author of Lamrim.
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There are 2 interesting stories I would like to share about Pabongkha Rinpoche, especially the one about the patron monk.
At first Pabongka Rinpoche was very poor and not famous. He studied hard to be a Geshe, meditated and gave empowerments. Pabongkha studied with Jaba Sonpo Rinpoche who was a complete lineage holder, especially of the teachings of Ranchi Lama. One night, he dreamt of a person giving him a pot of milk and requesting him to drink it completely. This symbolized that the complete teachings would be transferred to him.
Later on, a monk came to see him. This monk explained that there were a lot of philosophies in Tibet but not much teaching on Lam Rim. The monk offered to be his patron so that he could go and teach. While returning from the south of Tibet, Pabongkha Rinpoche met many people, requesting Lam Rim teaching. He taught in Lhasa and he went every where in Tibet and many people became his students.
Finally the monk who was Pabongkha Rinpoche patron returned and thanked him. He told him to rest, while he was away at the Five Mountains of Manjusri in China. At this period no one asked him to teach Lam Rim
Three years later, this monk returned and requested him to teach Tantra. After this many people requested Tantra teachings.
Pabongkha Rinpoche contemplated these events and realised that this monk was Dorje Shugden himself! ;D
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Everytime I pick up the Liberation In The Palm Of Your Hand, I am in complete awe of how Pabongka Rinpoche was able to elucidate the entire of the Buddha's teachings in such a simple way. This is no ordinary feat and indeed Pabongka was famous for his ability to teach the Lamrim.
Pabongka Rinpoche was the reincarnation of the great Lama Atisha, returning to receive the teachings on Bodhicitta just like Atisha had received from Suvarnadvipa. It is not surprising that Pabongka was widely regarded to be the "living Lamrim".
The genius of Pabongka lies in the way the Lamrim was written and is still being delivered to students today, i.e. in a manner and language which is simple enough to cater to our chronically shallow minds and yet contains "instructions taken from the confidential oral lineages" as Trijang Rinpoche wrote in his introduction to the Lamrim.
No doubt Pabongka's wish was for not only monks, but also laypeople of all levels of intelligence and experience to study and practice the stages to enlightenment. Pabongka was also the first Gelug Master to teach students who are not already members of the Sangha.
As Trijang Rinpoche further wrote of Pabongka's great work: "It was beneficial for the mind because it was so inspiring. Sometimes we were moved to laughter, becoming wide awake and alive. Sometimes we were reduced to tears and cried helplessly. At other times we became afraid or were moved to feel, ‘I would gladly give up this life and devote myself solely to my practice.’ This feeling of renunciation was overwhelming. These are some of the ways in which all of his discourses were so extraordinary"
Pabongka's message to Dharma students have always consistently focused on the need to quickly come to the realization that we have been endowed with a precious human life that should used to learn and practice the Dharma before death comes.
"Because you think, “I’m not going to die for some time, I’m not going to die for some time,”?While you’re distracted by the never-ending activities of this life,?Suddenly the fearful Lord of Death arrives,?Announcing, “Now it’s time to die.”?— This is going to happen to you!
Though you make arrangements, saying “tomorrow” and “tomorrow,”?Just then, suddenly, you have to go.?— This is going to happen to you!?And without choice, leaving behind in disarray?Your left-off work, left food and drink, you have to depart.?— This is going to happen to you!
There’s no time other than today to spread [your bedding] and go off to sleep;?Upon your last bed you fall like an old tree,?And others, unable to turn you with their [lily]-soft hands,?Tug at your clothes and blanket.?— This is going to happen to you" [extracted from Heart Spoon]
In the same work, we get a very clear picture of what will happen to us should we fail to use our life for the practice of Dharma:
"When you’re tortured in so many detestable ways?By ox- and scorpion-headed karmic agents—what to do?
When you’re before the Yama king, the Lord of Death,?As he weighs up the whites and blacks—your virtuous and non-virtuous actions—what to do?
When Yama exposes your lie of having spent?Your human life in attachment, hatred, and deceit— what to do?
When at Yama’s court the punishment that is the ripening effect?Of your negative actions [is meted out]—what to do?
When your naked body is stretched out on the glowing red-hot iron ?ground in the fires of hell—what to do?
Though your body is cut to pieces by a rain of weapons,?Still you must experience it without dying—what to do?
Though you’re cooked in molten iron until your flesh falls away and your bones disintegrate,?Still you must experience it without dying—what to do?
Though your body and fire burn inseparably,?Still you must experience it without dying—what to do?
When your body is pierced by a freezing cold wind?And cracks into a hundred thousand pieces—what to do?
Having fallen into the miserable state of a hungry ghost with its hunger and thirst,?You have to starve for many years—what to do?
When you’ve become one of those stupid, dumb, unfortunate animals?That eat each other alive—what to do"?
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Each time when I come across or read anything with regards to Pabongka Rinpoche's name, automatically I will be sad and heartbroken to think and know what Rinpoche has to go through especially with the ban of Shugden.
Basically, Pabongka Rinpoche has been outcast by the Tibetans in general every since HH announced to all that this protector is bad. I have heard stories about how Pabongka Rinpoche has been mistreated by the Tibetans and betrayed by his own students ever since then.
One of a few famous stories which I have heard from some of my friends in India & Nepal is related to Kopan Monastery
As most of us are aware of, Pabongka official resident is in Kathmandu. Rinpoche has a Labrang in Sera Mey Monastery in India but the property was taken back by the monastery when the ban started. The same with Gangchen Rinpoche Labrang in Sera Mey also .
During the times when Pabongka Rinpoche was in Kathmandu, he often gives teaching in Kopan. If I am not mistaken, the current main temple building was inaugurated and blessed by Pabongka Rinpoche. Rinpoche used to visit and teach in Kopan and his Taiwanese sponsor will accompany Rinpoche. When the ban took off, some of the monks in Kopan started to influence the sponsor negatively about Rinpoche. After awhile, the sponsor left Rinpoche because of this. On top of this, there was constant death threat directed to Rinpoche during that time.
Rinpoche used to have the freedom to travel to all the holy places in Kathmandu. We used to see Rinpoche in Boudhanath Stupa circumambulating whenever he is in Kathmandu every other day. But 4 to 5 years ago, Rinpoche stopped. Some of the monks have said, Rinpoche is no longer interested in meeting the public or giving teachings, even when Rinpoche is in Kathmandu, Rinpoche will only stay inside the labrang. He now travels very often to China. And do not return to Nepal or even India.
Deep down, I know Rinpoche will teach again. The same with Trijang Rinpoche. And when they do, the CTA & Tibetans who criticise these 2 high lamas can just go an fly their own kite.
Liberation at the Palm of
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Each time when I come across or read anything with regards to Pabongka Rinpoche's name, automatically I will be sad and heartbroken to think and know what Rinpoche has to go through especially with the ban of Shugden.
Basically, Pabongka Rinpoche has been outcast by the Tibetans in general every since HH announced to all that this protector is bad. I have heard stories about how Pabongka Rinpoche has been mistreated by the Tibetans and betrayed by his own students ever since then.
One of a few famous stories which I have heard from some of my friends in India & Nepal is related to Kopan Monastery
As most of us are aware of, Pabongka official resident is in Kathmandu. Rinpoche has a Labrang in Sera Mey Monastery in India but the property was taken back by the monastery when the ban started. The same with Gangchen Rinpoche Labrang in Sera Mey also .
During the times when Pabongka Rinpoche was in Kathmandu, he often gives teaching in Kopan. If I am not mistaken, the current main temple building was inaugurated and blessed by Pabongka Rinpoche. Rinpoche used to visit and teach in Kopan and his Taiwanese sponsor will accompany Rinpoche. When the ban took off, some of the monks in Kopan started to influence the sponsor negatively about Rinpoche. After awhile, the sponsor left Rinpoche because of this. On top of this, there was constant death threat directed to Rinpoche during that time.
Rinpoche used to have the freedom to travel to all the holy places in Kathmandu. We used to see Rinpoche in Boudhanath Stupa circumambulating whenever he is in Kathmandu every other day. But 4 to 5 years ago, Rinpoche stopped. Some of the monks have said, Rinpoche is no longer interested in meeting the public or giving teachings, even when Rinpoche is in Kathmandu, Rinpoche will only stay inside the labrang. He now travels very often to China. And do not return to Nepal or even India.
Deep down, I know Rinpoche will teach again. The same with Trijang Rinpoche. And when they do, the CTA & Tibetans who criticise these 2 high lamas can just go an fly their own kite.
Liberation at the Palm of
Pabongkha Rinpoche is just one of the many Lamas that have fell victim to the CTA's schemes and machinations. They have proven from time and time again that they are not even Buddhists, just some greedy ministers that only want money, fame and power. I hope they better do something to atone for their mistakes, and not just the CTA officials but also the Kopan monks should also do something to repent, as there will be a lot of heavy karma accumulated from criticizing or harming someone of Pabongkha Rinpoche's calibre. Over time, the ban will get weaker and weaker and HHDL will decrease the intensity of the ban over the next few years until finally he lifts it and many will be asking for forgiveness from Dorje Shugden. Of course Dorje Shugden will forgive them, but sadly, their karmas will not forgive them. In any case, criticizing and making things difficult for the root Guru of our tradition will definitely bring about heavy karma and very unfortunate circumstances for the CTA.
I really hope and pray that from the bottom of my heart that Pabongkha Rinpoche can come out and teach again, and that the CTA can do nothing about him. I wish that he would gain the necessary sponsors to be able to start again in another country where the CTA cannot touch him at all and he will be based there and he will have a huge Dharma center that will benefit millions of people. I actually feel very angry at the CTA officials for lying about Pabongkha Rinpoche and taking away his sponsor because that should never be done to any high lama, or any lama at all as a Lama's work can only expand with the help of a sponsor. If he had to do everything himself, he would not be able to spend that much time on studying and teaching, and thus less people will benefit from that. I can only imagine the amount of people that Pabongkha Rinpoche can benefit, but he cannot right now because of the CTA officials that wiled his main sponsor away. Better watch out CTA!! Things do not look good for you at all as even the Dalai Lama himself says that they should still respect Pabongkha Rinpoche and Trijang Rinpoche despite the ban.
I wonder why again that HHDL's advice went on deaf ears.