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About Dorje Shugden => General Discussion => Topic started by: dsnowlion on March 09, 2017, 08:49:57 PM
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What on earth is HH the Dalai Lama trying to do? He seems to be shooting himself in the foot these days?! Why does he keep contradicting himself more and more these days. He wants to have dialogue with China, wants them to allow him to return to Tibet and autonomy for Tibet, yet he shoots out words that creates more conflict instead of peace? This is not how a Nobel peace prize winner should behave, what is so noble about this?
Dalai Lama says Chinese hardliners have parts of brain missing
Chinese hardliners have parts of their brains missing, exiled Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama said in an interview aired this week, comments likely to infuriate Beijing, which views the Nobel Peace laureate as a dangerous separatist.
The Dalai Lama, who fled into exile in India after a failed uprising against Chinese rule in 1959, denies espousing violence and says he only wants genuine autonomy for Tibet.
The animosity between the two sides, and their rivalry for control over Tibetan Buddhism, is at the heart of the debate about reincarnation.
Speaking to U.S. comedian John Oliver in India's northern town of Dharamsala, where the exiled Tibetan government is based, he also said he might be the last Dalai Lama.
"Very possible," he said. "If I become the last Dalai Lama, I feel very happy."
Tibetan Buddhism holds that the soul of a senior lama is reincarnated in the body of a child on his death.
China says the tradition must continue and its officially atheist Communist leaders have the right to approve the Dalai Lama's successor, as a legacy inherited from China's emperors.
The Dalai Lama has suggested previously the title could end with him, when he dies. China accuses him of betraying, and being disrespectful of, the Tibetan religion, by saying there might be no future reincarnations.
Asked if he was worried China might appoint its own Dalai Lama, the spiritual leader said it would be foolish.
"Our brain usually, you see, has the ability to create common sense," he said. "The Chinese hardliners, in their brain, that part of the brain, is missing."
China's Foreign Ministry did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Tibet's delegation to the annual meeting of China's parliament, which opened on Sunday, is likely to hold a news conference some time this week. Such meetings tend to be dominated by the issue of the Dalai Lama.
(Reporting by Ben Blanchard; Editing by Clarence Fernandez)
Source: [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-tibet-dalailama-idUSKBN16D13N[/url] ([url]http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-tibet-dalailama-idUSKBN16D13N[/url])
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The original interview was aired on HBO's Last Week Tonight. Amazing that the Dalai Lama could say things like that. China's Foreign Ministry now calls the Dalai Lama a "deceptive actor".
This definitely does not help the animosity between China and Tibet (in exile), and this concerns not only the issue of Tibet, but also the competition for control over Tibetan Buddhism as the Panchen Lama is Tibetan Buddhism’s second-most-important living religious figure after the Dalai Lama. However, the reality is that whether or not China appoints their own new Dalai Lama, the Chinese Panchen Lama is gaining strength and will become officially the most important religious figure in Tibet when the Dalai Lama pass away. The Panchen Lama also may be crucial in the Chinese government’s efforts to install a new Dalai Lama who is more friendly to Communist Party rule than the current one.
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It is very clear, especially after the Kalachakra initiation in China that the Panchen Lama is being pushed forward to replace the Dalai Lama in Tibet (China), especially when this lama is loyal to the Chinese party and state, as opposed to the Dalai Lama who is unfortunately known as a “wolf in monk’s clothing” whom the Chinese see as a splitist trying to split Tibet from the motherland.
Whether or not ordinary Tibetans will accept the Panchen Lama's credential of being the true incarnation of the previous Panchen, China will maintain him in his position by simple coercion and state power and the majority of Tibetans will have no say about this.
It seems that this news is now being publicised everywhere, Times of India, Channel News Asia, The Globe and Mail in Canada, and UK's Daily Mail. This is definitely bad press for the Dalai Lama and the CTA. This is similar to the incident of sexist remark to the BBC about the Dalai Lama's successor whom the Dalai Lama said must be very attractive, “Otherwise, not much use".
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He laughs... and he laughs...
Then he says he cured Mongolia of alcoholism with horse milk!
https://munchies.vice.com/en_us/article/the-dalai-lama-says-he-cured-mongolia-of-alcoholism-with-horse-milk
Laughs some more...
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That was a very political move by the Dalai Lama. Not for me to say anything but, this really mixes church and state and is not healthy for anyone. Even the Pope stayed away from political statements like this. As a monk, not even to mention his god-like status among the Tibetans, this statement of "The Chinese hardliners, in their brain, that part of the brain, is missing." is not mindful at all. Sad to see this.
It is an endorsement for the Tibetans to be rude to all those who are not in in agreement with the way they think. It is just a signal of the beginning of the end of mindfulness the Tibetan Buddhist way.
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We may have good laugh about the passing comments made by HH Dalai Lama, but what are the prices are we paying? It has definitely upset the China government, and what do we get out of this? Everyday, China is developing Tibet, and more and more Tibetans are getting more used to China's "occupation". What is Tibet government doing to achieve their autonomous? What is their real plan? Do they really believe that blaming China will help them solve their issue? While CTA is blaming China everyday, China has already used their resources to improve the life of the millions of Tibetans everyday.
It seems like the battle is long list for the Tibetans.
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"Our brain usually, you see, has the ability to create common sense," he said. "The Chinese hardliners, in their brain, that part of the brain, is missing."
This is precisely why the Tibetan Leadership hasn't been able to achieve anything for the Tibetans in the past 58 years. Anyone with common sense would know that irking the party you wish to get favours from is not the right thing to do. Who is missing the common sense now?
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This statement from the Dalai Lama is very strange. China is the country that occupies your own country, Tibet. The government and Chinese people can either be helpful or they can make your life difficult. Well, I guess comments like this will not make them more cooperative.
So what is the goal to make such comments about them?
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The Dalai Lama is just trying to provoke China to react towards their Tibetan policy. It's a calculated move to showcase China as the 'bad boy' by further violating human rights and all that jazz. China is pissed and will continue to up the heat on any nation that continue to open their arms to the Dalai Lama. But they will do nothing to reopen dialogue with the Tibetan leadership.
Their official stance now is to patiently wait for the Dalai Lama's passing and ensure that a new Dalai Lama is handpicked within China Tibet to ensure a patriotic one just like the current Panchen Lama successful experiment. The Chinese is confident, they will be able to groom a patriotic Dalai Lama in the same mould as the Panchen Lama.
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@Big Uncle, won't that sound like there will be politics behind the religion as well,
Their official stance now is to patiently wait for the Dalai Lama's passing and ensure that a new Dalai Lama is handpicked within China Tibet to ensure a patriotic one just like the current Panchen Lama successful experiment. The Chinese is confident, they will be able to groom a patriotic Dalai Lama in the same mould as the Panchen Lama.
This statement by the Dalai Lama about the Chinese hardliners is nothing but a diversion, spin doctoring, grabbing the limelight. This will not bring China to the round table. The real concern is what will happen to the Tibetans in exile?
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The Dalai Lama is just trying to provoke China to react towards their Tibetan policy. It's a calculated move to showcase China as the 'bad boy' by further violating human rights and all that jazz. China is pissed and will continue to up the heat on any nation that continue to open their arms to the Dalai Lama. But they will do nothing to reopen dialogue with the Tibetan leadership.
I have to agree to Big Uncle. It is again all politics and no improvement for the situation will be found for the Tibetan people in Tibet/China and outside of China.
All this time could be used to help the Tibetan situation and make their life better and integrate instead of waiting for a Free Tibet. The chances for Free Tibet are over, so much time has passed but nothing has been accomplished. Very sad but that's how it is.
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It is quite improper for a leader to use such descriptive words, more so when he is the Dalai Lama, a Nobel laureate. Since the Dalai Lama imposed the ban on Dorje Shugden practice, some of his words and actions in public are strange and not benefiting that of a statesman nor a spiritual leader. Why? That is a big question.
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It doesn’t make sense that the HH Dalai Lama said "Our brain usually, you see, has the ability to create common sense," he said. "The Chinese hardliners, in their brain, that part of the brain, is missing."
This is more about politics, western politic leaders are waiting for China to react and take this opportunity to irritate China. Hoping this can weaken the China. And yet China is waiting for Dalai Lama’s passing so they can choose their own Dalai Lama. This is all about power crazy, power to control things as they wanted in their ways and it always create suffering to one of the parties or both or all.
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You know, someone should advice the Dalai Lama not to do this again. Why antogonize China? Why make them a bigger enemy when he could friends with them instead? Don't you think if the Dalai Lama acquiesce to China, they would lessen their crackdowns on Tibetans in China and perhaps open the doors to dialogue one day? China is too big, rich and formidable to the trifled with.
Already, very few Western countries are willing to officially host the Dalai Lama and that list is rapidly shrinking every year as China continues the strangle-hold over international relations. To further mend the rift with China, the Dalai Lama could issue statements to ask Tibetans to respect the Chinese authorities and not self-immolate themselves. This would go a long way towards the betterment of the Sino-Tibetan relationship.
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Chinese hardliners have parts of their brains missing, exiled Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama said in an interview aired this week,
Right, the part of the brain which makes of the evi daie an idiot.
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*evil dalie
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It is quite improper for a leader to use such descriptive words, more so when he is the Dalai Lama, a Nobel laureate. Since the Dalai Lama imposed the ban on Dorje Shugden practice, some of his words and actions in public are strange and not benefiting that of a statesman nor a spiritual leader. Why? That is a big question.
Samayakeeper,
You forget that the Dalai Lama is also a politician and a very seasoned one at that.
As long as the DL is prepared to take shots at China, he is a useful agent provocateur to those who wish to curb China's rise. If he is too conciliatory towards China, he may lose this usefulness. And so the he plays both sides.
Notice how it is standard operating procedure for the Dalai Lama to always give the impression that he is ready to have meaningful dialogue with China and concurrently demean China in the same breath, thereby removing the incentive for China to come to the table. Add a dash of charisma and good humour and everyone gets spellbound over and over again.
Why antagonise China? Because whilst it is a sincere albeit romantic wish for the Tibetans in exile to regain their homeland, it is an unrealistic wish and the Dalai Lama and CTA know that. However, to move on and give up the 'fight' to regain their independence would entail the Tibetan leadership giving up the only reason for them to exist and to forego the main justification to ask for money and support which they have been receiving for decades. They cannot afford to lose this and so the Dalai Lama must always appear as if he is seeking dialogue with China but never really wanting it to come to fruition.
If the Tibetan exile leadership were to somehow regain their country, not only do they immediately lose financial support and sponsorship from the world community but also they will then have to manage a country with 6 million Tibetan people who have now experienced something other than feudal theocracy, and wrangle with cross-border politics with China and India and the other neighbouring states. Does anyone really believe that the CTA is up to the task when we have seen how abysmally they have performed with a mere 150,000 refugees?
The CTA has failed when there is literally no country to run. How can they succeed when have to set in place a local and foreign economy, an education system, a legal infrastructure, various executive arms and an army? It is pipe dream and not even a real one at that. Being stateless 'victims' is the easiest and most lucrative strategy for the Tibetan leadership in the past and now. Perhaps it was a sincere wish in the beginning but being in exile quickly became a trade. All these is at the expense of the Tibetan people of course, many of whom self-immolated thinking that their sacrifice would aid the Tibetan cause. Nothing can aid the Tibetan cause if the Tibetan leadership does not want to succeed.
You will never see any Tibetan leader engage in serious dialogue about Tibet, tabling reasonable proposals within a workable framework. For a while now, the Tibet issue is nothing but entertainment made so by none other than the leaders themselves. People watch the John Oliver interview and come away thinking how funny it is, not how real the Tibetan issue is.