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About Dorje Shugden => General Discussion => Topic started by: Admin on February 07, 2008, 05:33:39 AM
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Dear friends,
Happy Losar to you!
Please go to www.dorjeshugden.com main page to download:
MUSIC DELIGHTING THE OCEAN OF PROTECTORS
the most definitive and complete document on Vajradhara Dorje Shugden, his
nature, function and history, written by His Holiness the Dalai Lama's
root Guru, Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang.
or click here http://www.dorjeshugden.com/articles/musicdelighting.pdf
Thank you.
Yours truly,
dorjeshugden.com admin
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What a great gift to the whole of Gelugpa!!!!!!!!!! Thank you soooo much!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dear Admin,
Your devotion, hard work, dedication, unbiased attitude, respect to HH the Dalai Lama coupled with unchanging faith in Dorje Shugden brings tears to my eyes. :'( Without knowing, you set an example to everyone your guru devotion and practice of Dharma.
This text will help all Gelugpas. And it will help Sakya, Kagyu, Nyingma and BuddhaDharma on the whole to create understanding and harmony between them AGAIN. We all want that very much. :D
You are very special practitioners. Definitely not ordinary people. I respect you so much. ;)
You truly show us how practitioners of Dorje Shugden really act and think.
Thank you so much. :)
Happy Losar to you at Admin. :)
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Dear Everyone,
You should download this english translation of Dorje Shugden written by Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche. It is worth it very much for everyone to go over it in order to understand Dorje Shugden better.
Knowledge conquers many ills.
Must share this with friends. Great Treasure indeed.
TK
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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is a treasure indeed!! I swear I almost fainted when I saw this. Thank you Thank you Thank you! I've been visiting this forum for awhile and keep discovering hidden treasures.... i'll share this with as many people as possible!
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Wow! These are such sacred texts. I believe that these texts reveal the nature of Dorje Shugdan through the revelation of his incarnations. We are so lucky to be able to read it in English!!!! Someone should publish this sacred book. If the Great Deception can be published.... Why not Music Delighting the Ocean of Protectors? Along with a good commentary would be nice!
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Fantastic document. Thanks of taking the time to post this. Trijang Rinpoche and his ladrang moving over to Shar Gaden.And recently, Gaden Triusul did the same. These two great lamas are exemplary figures for us. Many loves Dorje Shugden and wanting to practice but with today's "political mixed spiritual" climate, many will be lost in the myriad of heated debates. I hope this site will be the pillar of strength and guiding force to help clear doubts through words.
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Thank you for this lovely gift for Losar. Thank you for making such an incredible text available to everyone all over the world, especially as it's out of print now and very difficult to find.
I wish more of the world could see these texts and really take the initiative and effort and time to read the texts about DS, his lineage, history, practice, meditations.
They would see that Dorje Shugden and his practice promotes ONLY Dharma and the teachings of Bodhicitta, kindness, wisdom. There is NOTHING in any of his prayers (or even in the teachings of his previous incarnations such as Tulku Dragpa Gyeltsen and Panchen Sonam Dragpa) that promotes all the negative stuff that they are accusing him of these days.
Just look at all the Lamas who are DS practitioners - look at what they are teaching, their actions and how beautiful and incredible they are. They really reflect the Dharma well and they show us the teachings in action - that is really what is important and what we are all looking for when we step onto a Dharma path.
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Thank you again for making the translation of this incredible text available to all.
"Though gone to the state of the Sugatas countless eons ago,
To benefit the teachings and migrators in whatever form subdues them,
Your hundreds of emanations have twenty?seven enlightened activities;
All praise to the pervasive lord, mighty Dorje Shugden! "
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THANK YOU ADMIN FOR THIS PRECIOUS TREASURE!!!
It is the most precious Gift anyone could ever ask for and it is PRICELESS!
What a blessed to start the New blessed Year!
And in English too :)
May you gained enormous amount of merits through this action of yours, can you imagine how many people will be downloading and reading the words of HH Trijang Dorje Chang on Vajradhara Dorje Shugden - thousands if not millions! Imagine if it was in Chinese!!!!
And all thanks to you ADMIN. I really love this website!
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Thank you admin for such a wonderful site and a whole load of information and downlable goodies to aid and support us Shugdenites (can't decide to call ourselves Shugdeners or Shugdenites).
U guys/yourself must be Buddha sent in order to fulfill our spiritual needs.
Sarva Mangalam
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A very precious text indeed. It is useful for researchers who wish to study the nature of Dorje Shugden through his incarnations. Someone should conduct research on Dorje Shugden using this text and other related studies. I also agree that this text should be published with a commentary.
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Thank you admin for such a wonderful site and a whole load of information and downlable goodies to aid and support us Shugdenites (can't decide to call ourselves Shugdeners or Shugdenites).
U guys/yourself must be Buddha sent in order to fulfill our spiritual needs.
Sarva Mangalam
Why not just call us what we are ? Gelugpa/Kadampas/Gandenpa's....
:)
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What a great gift to the whole of Gelugpa!!!!!!!!!! Thank you soooo much!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you anything, amazing......
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Please go in and have a look, a very very nice!!! Don't miss your chance.
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/articles/musicdelighting.pdf
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thank you admin for your kind heart and hard work to download all the holy text for the sake of other to
understand who is dorje shugden .
sutarmol
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Just got through reading it. So lovely and precious.
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I can't believe my luck! It is just like if it was raining gems!
Well... IT IS raining gems!
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Thank you for this truly precious and sacred text by Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang. It gives me a clear sense of direction in regard to how to address the great schism and conflict that has arisen since the ban on the practice of Dorje Shugden.
It has given me unwavering faith and conviction in Dorje Shugden as the powerful supramundane Protector who arose to protect the teachings of the great Je Tsongkhapa, particularly his unexcelled teachings on Nargajuna’s Middle View of Emptiness. This excellent text shows, without doubt, that Dorje Shugden is the Dharmapala for this degenerate age.
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I wish to expand on what I wrote in my previous post concerning this sacred text giving me a sense of direction regarding the conflict that followed the ban on the practice of Dharmapala Dorje Shugden.
To be more precise, I believe that Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche has, by his very compassionate and ‘all-encompassing’ approach, shown us that the way forward in addressing this conflict is to steer the right course by following the ‘middle way’. This is the way that this website supports. We should see the Dalai Lama and Dharmapala Dorje Shugden as ACTING TOGETHER to effect the spread of Dharma all over the world in this degenerate age.
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I wish to expand on what I wrote in my previous post concerning this sacred text giving me a sense of direction regarding the conflict that followed the ban on the practice of Dharmapala Dorje Shugden.
To be more precise, I believe that Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche has, by his very compassionate and ‘all-encompassing’ approach, shown us that the way forward in addressing this conflict is to steer the right course by following the ‘middle way’. This is the way that this website supports. We should see the Dalai Lama and Dharmapala Dorje Shugden as ACTING TOGETHER to effect the spread of Dharma all over the world in this degenerate age.
Yes. I'd like to add that it is most beneficial to view Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden as acting/working together.
As we know there is no contradiction in Buddha's teachings. We receive Buddha's teachings from the lineage lamas. Unless the lineage lamas are wrong, the many who found and recognized the Dalai Lama are wrong, the sangha is wrong, and we are willing to take the risk that they are all wrong, then it is very sad. We will no longer be believers and even if we think we are believers, our practice will be of no effect.
It will be very scary if we allow ourselves to create the wrong causes...as we may never meet the Dharma and holy gurus again...
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Wow! How wonderful that I have found this! Thankyou admin for posting this precious gem. It is super wonderful to find a site like this! There is so much to learn! Keep it up!
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Dear Barzin
Welcome to Dorjeshugden.com website and this forum. Yes, you will find that this website has plenty of information. Do spend some time to browse around the website and participate in this forum. Do familiarize yourself with the house rules if you haven't.
best wishes
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The Music Delighting The Ocean Of Protectors, I have read some part of it...it is good. Must download and read. ;)
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We should see the Dalai Lama and Dharmapala Dorje Shugden as ACTING TOGETHER to effect the spread of Dharma all over the world in this degenerate age.
Very much agree with you Vajrastorm. "To see the Dalai Lama and Dharmapala Dorje Shugden as ACTING TOGETHER to effect the spread of Dharma" is the only way to explain all the conflicts and the illogical ban on Dorje Shugden practice.
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Thank you Admin!
The book is so rich with information, everyone who consider them Buddhist MUST read it.
Thank you again
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Please go in and have a look, a very very nice!!! Don't miss your chance.
[url]http://www.dorjeshugden.com/articles/musicdelighting.pdf[/url] ([url]http://www.dorjeshugden.com/articles/musicdelighting.pdf[/url])
I really hope that will have this is Chinese version !! Will benefit more people, example China ! They're so big and losing control !!!
Hope that Protector can help China!
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Perhaps this may help our Chinese friends first...
and thanks to this great website/those behind it we can now download
the 1st ever Dorje Shugden Graphic Novel in Chinese here... http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?page_id=10006 (http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?page_id=10006)
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Dear DS Friends,
This is a more than music delighting the ocean of protectors but an immense ocean of dharma understanding surrounding the DS issue(I have read but will read and re-read to take in the wealth of information contained within) Thank you DS.com for this dharma gift!! ;D
Check it out and increase the understanding...bring religious freedom and end the ban by doing your part.
DS Knowledge is power to end the ban and bring DS blessings to end the ban sooner than later.
CONTENTS:
Praise
Introduction:
Mundane and Supramundane Protectors
Wrong Assertions
Origin and Essence: The Wisdom of All Buddhas
Commentary of Kyabje Dagpo Rinpoche Praise
Tulku Dragpa Gyaltsen Incarnation Lineage
The Lord of Yogis, Birwapa
Sakya Pandita Kunga Gyaltsen
Omniscient Buton Rinchen Drub
The Vinaya Holder Dragpa Gyaltsen
Panchen Sonam Dragpa
Sonam Yeshe Wangpo
Ngawang Sonam Geleg Pelzang
Tulku Dragpa Gyaltsen
Magical Lute's Melody - Tulku Dragpa Gyaltsen's
Visionary Writings: A Secret Biography
Prayer by the Fifth Dalai Lama
Conclusion: Pervasive Enlightened Activities.
Root Text: Kyabje Dagpo Dorje Chang's Praise to Dorje Shugden.
Annotations.
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I have read Music Delighting the Ocean of Protectors several times now, and every single time I read it, i learn something new from the text. It is so highly blessed. It gives us so much information on Dorje Shugden's previous reincarnations and that could be a very powerful tool for us to develop our realizations. The most important part of the text is near at the end, where Trijang Rinpoche exhorts us never to take sides should we be forced to choose a side between Dorje Shugden and the Dalai Lama. I truly believe in this approach and I abide by it at all times.
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I have recently started reading this amazingly sacred text by HH Trijang Rinpoche. It is a treasure trove for those of us who are practicing the greatly misunderstood, and oft maligned Dorje Shugden. It is fantastic that this website exists. Thank you for providing us with the information that we all want to know and this text in particular.
This text, for me, is so inspiring because it details the previous rebirths of Tulku Dragpa Gyeltsen, showing clearly that Dorje Shugden arose from a lineage of enlightened masters. Anybody who refutes this text, refutes the authority of Trijang Rinpoche. Refuting Trijang Rinpoche, refutes his teachings, which refutes the teachings that His Holiness the Dalai Lama gives to others. Simple logic in my opinion.
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I have downloaded it and this will help me a great deal to know more about the nature of this Great Protector Dorje Shugden. Thank You....Thank You..... :) :) :)
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Thankyou for allowing me to find this book, it answers so many questions.
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MAY ALL BEINGS BE CARED FOR INSEPARABLY
BY
PEACEFUL AND WRATHFUL MANJUSHRI
FROM LIFE TO LIFE!
MAY INFINITE OCEANS OF PURE BLISS
EXTEND TO ALL BEINGS
WITHOUT EXCEPTION!
SARVA MANGALAM
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I have just downloaded this, to print and read. I can't wait to read this, to gain more knowledge and wisdom from the incomparable Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang. I can't wait to share this with other people. Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche cannot be wrong, a lineage lama of his calibre cannot be wrong about the practise of Dorje Shugden. He has come back in this life, and continued his practise from his previous lives. Trijang Rinpoche has conferred initiation (sogtae) to many. If Dorje Shugden was a spirit, how can a fervent practitioner such as Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang reincarnate back in this life to continue his works. Worshipping and taking refuge in a spirit breaks the basic refuge vows , and would have been heavy negative karma which would bring one to the three lower realms.. Trijang Rinpoche is living proof that Dorje Shugden is not a spirit and practising Dorje Shugden does quite the opposite as the CTA and HH claims.
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/trijang-rinpoche-confers-initiation-in-europe/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/trijang-rinpoche-confers-initiation-in-europe/)
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Thanks Admin for this precious article.
By studying this book, we able to know the origin of Dorje Shugden. And also our lineage Lamas.
It is an important book in the history of Buddhism.
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Dear All
Music Delighting Ocean of Protectors - Biography of Trijang Rinpoche is also available in Indonesian language. Please share this article with your Indonesian friends
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/id/unduh/teks-unduh/unduh-otobiografi-kyabje-trijang-dorjechang/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/id/unduh/teks-unduh/unduh-otobiografi-kyabje-trijang-dorjechang/)
Michaela
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Thank you for this wonderful commentary on the nature and function of the Ganden Oral Lineage dharma protector, Dorje Shugden. Understanding more about our protector is able to give me more knowledge to engage in debate, dispersing information and strengthens my trust in this wonderful protector.
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Thank you Admin for sharing this post. It is much awaited commentary, a rare gems from three great master KYABJE DAGPO DORJE CHANG, KYABJE PABONGKHA DORJE CHANG & KYABJE TRIJANG DORJE CHANG.
Dorje Shugden past lives reincarnation were from a lineage of great masters whose mind has already attained high states of realization of an enlightened being. All these masters had hold theirs vow & ethical discipline perfectly without faults throughout theirs lives, to say that Dorje Shugden is a spirit it is the same as saying that actions from pure ethical discipline could result in lower rebirth. If all actions performed are wasted then it would have defy the law of cause & effect, the very essence of Buddhism.
This is a must read for all those who want to know more about Dorje Shugden to remove doubts & increase their faith in the practice.
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Dear DS Team,
How amazing we have the access to this treasure, it's totally priceless. Thank you DS Team for making this possible.
This will strengthen our knowledge and trust in our beloved Protector. Many many more people will benefited from reading this.
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Rejoice to those who will be able to encounter with the dharma and also this long hidden treasure, the sacred text of Trijang Rinpoche. To enable the Dorje Shugden’s practitioners to have a better understanding and sharing with others on the Great Protector Dorje Shugden’s origin , past lives, natures practice, I believe with the existence of this text will definitely be of great help. May this great text be able to flourish and never extinct. Thank you DS team.
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Thank you DS Admin for sharing this precious texts which are priceless for the benefit of many to understand our Protector Dorje Shugden and the lineage masters better.
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Thank you so much admin for posting this article and making the download available to everyone. It's wonderful to have the Tibetan text and keep as a blessing, for me it's fantastic to have the English translation. I hope there will be a full translated English version available one day.
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Thank you admin of Dorje Shugden.com for making this sacred text available to us in language we are familiar of. It reviews the thought and view of great master such as Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche on this protector of our era. It will instill faith and confident for those who still doubt of Dorje Shugden practice due to many misleading information that pervading the online world.
Keep up with the good work!
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Melodious Praise To Root Guru His Holiness Kybje Trijang Rinpoche
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ez_39W4xJA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ez_39W4xJA)
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Liberation in the Palm of your Hand
www.wisdompubs.org/book/liberation-palm-your-hand (http://www.wisdompubs.org/book/liberation-palm-your-hand)
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From Wikipedia on H.H. Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche:
According to Helmut Gassner, translator for the 14th Dalai Lama for 17 years:
During those years I frequently accompanied Geshe Rabten on his trips and had the opportunity to meet many important personages, among them Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche, the Junior Tutor of His Holiness the Dalai Lama. Trijang Rinpoche was in many ways one of the most important figures of his time. In the fifties he was the power behind His Holiness, a pillar of strength in the difficult and troubled times for the Tibetan people. This fact was well known to the Communist Chinese and so Trijang Lobsang Yeshe became their main enemy. It was also Trijang Rinpoche who taught His Holiness the Dalai Lama the concepts of Buddhism as well as the understanding of politics and mastering social skills.
While helping in the full education the Dalai Lama, he also always continued to teach and give empowerments to larger and larger numbers of monks at the Tantric colleges, Tashi Lhunpo, Ganden, Sera, Namgyal and elsewhere.
According to many disciples:
He was the most outstanding Master in every field of Buddhist teachings as well as Tibetan culture. He was the very source of all the fields of knowledge and a consultant in all of them. It was a well-known fact that he had really been the very epitome of a Master who had attained the highest realizations of the Sutras and Tantras, as well as an unsurpassable propagator.
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This is interesting...
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This is heaven sent. This indeed a rare treasure! Thank you for all the wonderful and great work DS.COM! You are beneficial beyond dimension and quantum to preserve, educate and restore the DS lineage.
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Thank you so much for making this accessible for us. I enjoy very much reading this precious text. Please continue your hard work. It is so very important for all of the Dorje Shugden practitioners.
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There is a slight misunderstanding about this subject of the 2 Dagpo Rinpoche's, Tagpu Pemavajra, who the author of Infinite Aeons is, and who went to Tushita and returned with the close lineage instructions on Dorje Shugden. People are confusing the following people - Dagpo Kelsang Khedrup, Dagpo Jampel Lhundrup, Tagpu Pemavajra.
Trijang Rinpoche's commentary is to the poem called Infinite Aeons, and the author of that poem is Dagpo Kelsang Khedrup, NOT Tagpu Pemavajra, and NOT Dagpo Jampel Lhundrup.
Dagpo Kelsang Khedrup was the Guru of Dagpo Jampel Lhundrup who was the Guru of Je Pabongkhapa.
Tagpu Pemavajra was the Guru of Pabongkha Rinpoche who went to Tushita and brought back the special close lineage teachings on Dorje Shugden.
There are several reasons for the misunderstanding:
1) The names sound very similar, and it is easy to mix up if there is an abbreviated reference such as 'Dagpo Rinpoche' for instance.
2) Admin of this website made a mistake in the English translation of Trijang Rinpoche's commentary to Infinite Aeons by putting a picture of Dagpo Jampel Lhundrup instead of Dagpo Kelsang Khedrup who is the actual author of Infinite Aeons.
The picture below is Dagpo Jampel Lhundrup, Pabongkha Rinpoche's Guru whom he spent 10 years receiving Lamrim transmissions from while doing Lamrim retreat. Dagpo Jampel Lhundrup is NOT the author of Infinite Aeons, nor is Tagpu Pemavajra.
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Thank you very very much! This is the best gift ever! Thank you so so much admin! Thank you always for your dedication and hard work!????????????????????????
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Thank you admin for sharing with us this text. For those who want to know the origin and history of Dorje Shugden, this is a must-read. Trijang Rinpoche was the personal tutor of the 14th Dalai Lama and the teacher to many contemporary erudite Gelug Buddhist masters, what he said cannot be wrong.
In this text, Trijang Rinpoche also mentioned there will be a day we may see the Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden going against each other. If that happens, we should not lose faith in both. They are actually doing this to bring Dorje Shugden and the Dharma to many.
Come to think of it, it could be true. Because of the ban, Dorje Shugden followers are totally disconnected from the Dalai Lama. The Chinese government feels safe to support and provide them everything they need. The Chinese government also spends millions of dollars to refurbish the monasteries and assist them when there is a big teaching happening. The Dorje Shugden lamas' works are flourishing in Tibet because of the support from the Chinese government. If the Dorje Shugden lamas are still connected with the Dalai Lama, this will not be possible.
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It is so wonderful that the long-awaited His Holiness Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche autobiography is finally published! It was a book that shared many of Kyabje Rinpoche's live events and how he remains steadfast with dharma practice regardless the difficulties Kyabje Rinpoche faces in Tibet and India. It was a very inspiring book with many accounts of Dorje Shugden.
Given that the book was published by Wisdom Publication, own by FPMT Shugden and Lama Yeshe's traitors, the translator Sharpa Tulku of The Magical Play of Illusion: A Validation of Dorje Shugden, toned down a lot in the translations and in many occasions omitted the mention of Dorje Shugden but indirectly indicated Dorje Shugden was involved in the event. For example, on page 390, under the sub-header The Search of His Reincarnation, it mentioned that Trijang Rinpoche has advised Kungo Palden which oracles to consult for the search of his reincarnation. However, only Setrap was mentioned. When we read through the book, it is clear that Kyabje Rinpoche has a lot of confidence and trust in Dorje Shugden. He even consulted Dorje Shugden for the fleeing of Tibet. So it is obvious that Dorje Shugden oracle was consulted for his reincarnation as well.
I believe a complete translation will be published in the future in order for the truth to be revealed even more thoroughly. For now, we can make do with it and be inspired!