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About Dorje Shugden => General Discussion => Topic started by: Damian.D on June 09, 2011, 06:00:13 PM
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Dear TDG, incarnation and all your attendants.
I hope you are well, wherever you are in this wide world. Just so you know, we are thinking of you and are happy your incarnation exists in this day and age.
Your previous lives work has stood the test of time, and still benefiting many even today. I can only image that you are doing the same if not more in this incarnation.May others get close to you and your teachings very soon, may we help to spread Tsongkhapa's teachings, and also Dorje Shugden practice.
This is worse than waiting for Christmas Day to open the presents.
I Salute you wherever you are,
May we meet soon!
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Waiting for Christmas! What a cute analogy! Yes, I've been wondering where Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen's incarnation is - where would he be - in the East or born in the West like Lama Osel... is he a Lama or in lay clothes... a teacher or doing something completely different. Of course there are some who say that Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen is none other than the Dalai Lama's brother. That would be really something if he was! How can the Dalai Lama condemn his own brother! I've also heard that Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen - like many attained beings - can emanate in different forms, such as the mind emanation, speech and body emanations. So it is possible that he can emanate as the Dalai lama's brother in one form and as another person in another form...
Anyway, i too shall wait for Christmas for everything to be revealed! In the meantime, I will do my daily prayers...
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Lord Tulku Dragpa Gyeltsen is a Buddha and he is pervasive everywhere. ;D
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Lord Tulku Dragpa Gyeltsen is a Buddha and he is pervasive everywhere. ;D
Yes, there are a lot of TDG emanations throughout the universe and all of them are working independently and yet, in unison to bring Dharma and benefit to countless beings. We are fortunate to be able to hear his name and be protected by him. Likewise, for many of other great Lamas and their incarnations and emanations throughout the whole universe.
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I just saw this... What a nice post from Damien D. Such sincerity and brings a lot of hope back to the surface.
Sure is good to know there is an incarnation living among us. Then again, whether or not the incarnation is formally announced, Dorje Shugden (and all the Buddhas) are always around us, we just can never see them at our level. Dorje Shugden - a fully enlightened being - manifests in any way necessary or beneficial to people at the time, so he could well be also a Hindu, a Christian, a Muslim, an aetheist, a homeless man, a businessman. Interesting, isn't it, to think that just about anyone we come across could be Dorje Shugden. That's a good practice already - to see everyone as a possible Buddha. It'll make us focus a lot more on the positives instead of just the negatives, and should definitely make us more aware of how we interact with others and how much or how little respect we really show others.
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Dear Damian D,
I read that in ancient India a boy made a pure and sincere prayer that one day may he meet the Enlightened beings. This created the cause for him to be a close disciple of the historical Buddha.
I pray that your "Christmas wish' and many others who have the same wish will have their wishes come true and that all will receive direct teachings from the great Tulku Dragpa Gyeltsen soon !
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It will be such great honour to receive teachings directly from Lord Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsens in this life time. Wherever he is, hope I will have the merits to meet him and may Dorje Shugden practice spread...
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Howdy everyone,
Thought I'd share something in general about aspirations to meet with enlightened beings and teachers:
I think it is helpful to always maintain faith in the Buddhas, whether they are physically there in front of us or not. I have heard many beautiful stories of teachers who had nothing but a picture to prostrate and do their prayers too. They treated their Buddha images or images of Gurus are REAL - like they are really there. When we do this, and we do our prayers and offerings sincerely, we create the causes to either meet that teacher directly or if it is not possible, we still gain the karma and merit to be able to meet a qualified teacher of the same lineage, tradition, teachings who can share the teachings with us and guide us in a way most suitable to us.
So perhaps at this point, even if we may not have the merit to be directly with Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen's reincarnation, aspirational prayers are very important and beneficial to help us maintain a connection and to create the merit to be able to meet him, or a being who is equal to him, to bring us the teachings.
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I too pray may this 'Christmas Wish' be fulfilled quickly.
May conducive condition and timing quickly come forth now so that TDG could appear to millions and millions of people to teach and spread the teaching.
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Great Lamas like Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsens never disappear. I strongly believe his incarnation is among us and nearer to us than you think.
May our Christmas wish be fulfilled in 2015. Om Benza Wiki Bitana Soha.
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Thank you beggar for the explanation. No matter if we really meet the reincarnation of a great Buddha, we should treat the Buddha image or statue as the real Buddha, and use the Buddha's wisdom to guide us in our daily life.
Having said this, it would be really nice to have the Christmas wish by 2015 :)
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I've never really given much thought to the actual physical incarnation of TDG. But, somehow reading about you anguished wait for "Christmas" to open your "present" has created an ache in my heart. I always thought that the Buddha is everywhere and that if you are sincere in your practice and belief like Magadha Sangmo then the Buddha/s will appear at the speed of thought. But again, do I need the physical manifestation of the Protector for me to have absolute faith? Which comes first - chicken or egg? faith first or actual contact and proximity with the physical incarnations? Does that mean if I don't get to meet the incarnation, then my faith is not there and that I do not have the merits and that I let my self doubt drive me crazy? Double edged sword!
Back to the meditation cushion, back to the meditation cushion......
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Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsens many incarnations' have brought great benefits to Buddha's teaching. Even tho the tibetans that do not want Him to know by others have trying hard to wide off the name of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsens, but H.H teachings, the monastery He build, the works He did for many lifetimes have benefited many till today and as a main ingredient for Buddhism.
I agreed with beggar on, to think of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsens might appear amongst us, it is really exciting but also we need to learn to view people around us as Buddha and treat them equally. Who know, people around us are the Buddha who trying to "cure" us from samsara illness.
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Just like you, I share the same thoughts and prayers to TDG that wherever he may be in this great big world, may he always be in good health and may he always be safe and sound.
Wherever he may be now, may all our good karma ripen so that we may all be close to Him and receive blessings directly from him.
I really like your analogy, and it is really true. Waiting for the ban to be lifted is like a little kid who can't wait for Christmas morning to come so that he can open the presents he got :)
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Tulku Dragpa Gyeltsen former incarnation was Panchen Sonam Dragpa, who was abbott of the three Gaden Pillars, Gaden, Sera and Drepung. Who has written many texts still used today. Wherever Tulku Dragpa Gyeltsen manifests the dharma will grow and flourish there.
May we hear of this incarnation once again, it is certainly a pity that the Gaden Phodrang destroyed much of Tulku Dragpa Gyeltsen Ladrang and teachings.
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wherever Tulku Drapa Gyeltsen is now I think as high lama like he definitely bring a lot of benefits to the people , I wish his work will florist and bring the dharma to more people.
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I totally agree with this person, and I too wish that this incarnation will bring peace to the world once more, he will stop the pain in Tibet, bring an end to the ban and he will rise with so much support in all the right ways. he will set the example. I wish him the best in his journey to restore the name of Dorje Shugden and continue to teach. I know he will build well, and rise up to the top with his supporters. I am waiting for this legend and holy being to appear once more. And when he comes, we will rejoice.
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A highly attained being like Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen will most likely already be doing great work for beings and for me been living openly among the Dharma community in an esteemed position but under a different name. I say this because, due the motivation of Boddhicitta, TDG will definitely be benefitting others day and night and during these degenerate time, are unlikely to remain anonymous.
Hence, I am really looking toward the day that He will reveal Himself to the world. Until such time we continue to work towards Enlightenment for the sake of all beings and the lifting of the ban.
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Well put, yontenjamyang. We just do what needs to be done for ourselves for "Enlightenment for the sake of all beings and the lifting of the ban." It is the core of Buddhism. _/|\_
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Hence, I am really looking toward the day that He will reveal Himself to the world.
While Buddhists do pray and supplicate that the buddhas appear in our world and turn the Wheel of Dharma, your feverish anxiety for the second coming of a martyrized Tulku Dragpa Gyaltsen is rather reminiscent of fundamentalist Christians' Jewish-inspired messianic hysteria for the “second coming” of their martyrized Jesus, when he will reveal himself “in glory” to the world, and reward the “righteous” and rid the world of the “wicked”.
Jews too, themselves always exploiting the myth of their own “martyrdom” are hysterical about the coming of their “messiah” who, so they believe according to their “prophets”, will submit the whole humankind to the genocidal, bloodthirsty Jewish “god”, and ensure absolute Jewish domination over non-Jews. Muslims, together with their cult of martyrdom, are similarly hysteric about their “Mahdi” (one of the eight barbaric prophets according to the Kalachakra Tantra).
All of these are just power politics transvestite as religion, or religion used as a facade for an ideology of domination. This explains the fanatical agitation and blind hysteria characterizing the enactment of such Jewish-Christian-Muslim perverted myths. All the hideous crimes nowadays perpetrated or supported by Zionist Jews, Wahhabi Muslims (al-Qaeda, Islamic State etc.), and US fundamentalist Christians in the Middle East and elsewhere are driven by such messianic ideology.
Therefore, there seems to be a big difference between praying and supplicating that the buddhas appear in our world and turn the Wheel of Dharma, which has no political and no hysterical components, and a hysterical attitude of anxiously expecting some messianic emanation of a “martyrized” Tulku Dragpa Gyaltsen dramatically “revealing himself to the world” to usher in some fantasized era of political dominance of now-oppressed Shugdenpas.
In the same way that fanatic, murderous Jews are seen by Christians as instruments of their evil “god” when such Jews promoted the martyrdom of Jesus in the hands of the Romans, so also the evil 5th dalie lame is seen by some fanatic Shugdenpas as some kind of “divine player” when he ordered the “martyrdom” of Tulku Drakpa Gyaltsen. In both cases the idea is to use a theological argument in order to save the face of the criminals, be they the Jews or the 5th dalie lame, or to whitewash their crimes, for the sake of political convenience, or an alliance between political factions, such as Christians and Jews, or Shugdenpas and dalaites.
Tulku Dragpa Gyaltsen was a highly accomplished being, and his murdering by a Nyingma criminal under the orders of the 5th dalie lame, who wanted to pollute pure Gelug teachings with Nyingma non-Buddhist superstition for political reasons, served as the condition for his arising as the enlightened protector of the teachings of Je Tsongkhapa. Now, erecting him into a “martyr”, and the evil 5th dalie lame as a “divinely inspired” criminal, and creating a messianic cult of his impending “second coming” sounds rather like an attempt by greedy, unscrupulous religionists to emulate Abrahamic (Jewish-Christian-Islamic) myths, and thus pollute and destroy Buddhism from inside with such ridiculous garbage.
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While Buddhists do pray and supplicate that the buddhas appear in our world and turn the Wheel of Dharma, your feverish anxiety for the second coming of a martyrized Tulku Dragpa Gyaltsen is rather reminiscent of fundamentalist Christians' Jewish-inspired messianic hysteria for the “second coming” of their martyrized Jesus, when he will reveal himself “in glory” to the world, and reward the “righteous” and rid the world of the “wicked”.
Tulku Dragpa Gyaltsen was a highly accomplished being, and his murdering by a Nyingma criminal under the orders of the 5th dalie lame, who wanted to pollute pure Gelug teachings with Nyingma non-Buddhist superstition for political reasons, served as the condition for his arising as the enlightened protector of the teachings of Je Tsongkhapa. Now, erecting him into a “martyr”, and the evil 5th dalie lame as a “divinely inspired” criminal, and creating a messianic cult of his impending “second coming” sounds rather like an attempt by greedy, unscrupulous religionists to emulate Abrahamic (Jewish-Christian-Islamic) myths, and thus pollute and destroy Buddhism from inside with such ridiculous garbage.
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I do agree with much of the sentiment expressed by Matibadhra. However, on the balance of consideration, the re-emergence of Tulku Drakpa Gyaltsen would have a number of benefits at this time:
1. it will completely destroy accusations that TDG went to the lower realms, especially if the present TDG became widely recognized for his compassionate works and attainments;
2. It will reunite the Gelugpa that has been torn apart by the Dalai Lama's conflict;
3. It will re-establish the credibility of the lineage that has been damaged by endless lies and disinformation by the CTA;
4. It will resurrect the hope of many Shugden practitioners who have suffered so much over the years.
As for the 'messianic hysteria' that might happen with the reappearance of TDG, I don't think that has as much to do with the existence of TDG as it would with the correct understanding and practice of the Dharma.
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I don't follow how "Hence, I am really looking toward the day that He will reveal Himself to the world." (yontenjamyang) could be interpreted to mean "...a big difference between praying and supplicating that the buddhas appear in our world and turn the Wheel of Dharma, which has no political and no hysterical components, and a hysterical attitude of anxiously expecting some messianic emanation of a “martyrized” Tulku Dragpa Gyaltsen dramatically “revealing himself to the world” to usher in some fantasized era of political dominance of now-oppressed Shugdenpas." (Matibhadra).
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It’s great to know that the great lama Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen is back. I always believe that he’s an enlightened being and have no doubt of his return. Only enlightened being will come back and continue the selfless work to continue their meritorious work to benefit many people. I strongly believe in this life he will continue to spread Lama Tsongkhapa doctrine to the world just like his previous incarnation before.
Can’t wait for the ban to be lifted and more Shugden great master to openly give teaching.
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It’s great to know that the great lama Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen is back. I always believe that he’s an enlightened being and have no doubt of his return. Only enlightened being will come back and continue the selfless work to continue their meritorious work to benefit many people. I strongly believe in this life he will continue to spread Lama Tsongkhapa doctrine to the world just like his previous incarnation before.
Can’t wait for the ban to be lifted and more Shugden great master to openly give teaching.
Dear Tenzin K,
Just wanted to make a note that it is not only enlightened beings that reincarnate to help living beings but also Superior bodhisattvas and advanced completion stage practitioner's with the ability to control the process of death, bardo, and rebirth. All three categories are referred to as 'tulkus'; they are genuine tulkus, not kids chosen merely for political motivated reasons such as how the present Dalai Lama was chosen. As a reason to support their view of someone as being a tulku, people often say such and such Master recognized or acknowledged them as being a tulku, but they fail to recognize that such recognition or public comment is sometimes made merely to keep harmony by being supporting the ruling political views, NOT because the person is an actual Tulku.
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Tulku Dragpa Gyeltsen former incarnation was Panchen Sonam Dragpa, who was abbott of the three Gaden Pillars, Gaden, Sera and Drepung. Who has written many texts still used today. Wherever Tulku Dragpa Gyeltsen manifests the dharma will grow and flourish there.
May we hear of this incarnation once again, it is certainly a pity that the Gaden Phodrang destroyed much of Tulku Dragpa Gyeltsen Ladrang and teachings.
It is true that where ever the incarnation of Tulku Dragpa Gyeltsen manifests the Dharma will grow and flourish.
TDG had many previous incarnations like Panchenn Sonam Drakpa and Sakya Shri Badra would benefited many with the Dharma. He has manifested as Kings, mahasiddhas, translators and Gurus. All incarnations brought tremendous benefits.
Wherever his present incarnation is, the Dharma will sure to manifest to suit the being of that place and from the globally I am sure since these days all it takes is a few clicks and the Dharma can be transmitted.
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I believe that there is Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen's incarnation is somewhere in this world teaching and spreading dharma to many people just like in all his previous lives. May his organization grow bigger and wider across the whole world just like back in the days so that countless of people and other beings can learn and practice dharma. All my friends and I would really love to meet him in person, so please quickly let his organization flourish so that I know where is his monastery and I can visit it.
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I don't follow how "Hence, I am really looking toward the day that He will reveal Himself to the world." (yontenjamyang) could be interpreted to mean "...a big difference between praying and supplicating that the buddhas appear in our world and turn the Wheel of Dharma, which has no political and no hysterical components, and a hysterical attitude of anxiously expecting some messianic emanation of a “martyrized” Tulku Dragpa Gyaltsen dramatically “revealing himself to the world” to usher in some fantasized era of political dominance of now-oppressed Shugdenpas." (Matibhadra).
This is because you fail to understand the difference between Dharma and political hysteria.
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Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsens previous incarnations have indeed done a lot of good for the people around him/her. And we can basically already assume that wherever this new incarnation is, he/she is already starting to benefit others through Dharma and Dorje Shugdens teachings.
Whoever is in touch with this new incarnation is very very very lucky and should appreciate what they have for as long as possible. Being so close to this incarnation bring many benefits. I was told that many people would not even know that they are so close to this incarnation. This is because the incarnation would not state by himself/herself that he/she is the incarnation.
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Guess it's just sad that there are no longer any strong Tibetan kings to take over the political life of the Tibetans and has thus resulted in the mixing of religion and politics which is a very potent and volatile mix. Guess that's just the karma of the Tibetans and in the long run the shift of Tibetan Buddhism from the land of snow to the other parts of the world.
May the Avalokiteshvara side/compassionate side of the Tibetans surface to subdue the ogress part that they may find peace among themselves.
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What a wonderful aspirational letter to Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen and his incarnations. I am sure that the incarnate of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen is living amongst us carrying on his great compassion in spreading Lama Tsongkapa’s teachings. I would certainly rejoice the day this great being announces his presence to the world, bringing with him the renewed faith in the true teachings of Buddha Shakyamuni and Lama Tsongkapa.
May the ban on Dorje Shugden be swiftly lifted so that more may receive the benefit of the pure teachings by the incarnate of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen when he arises to his rightful throne.
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Dear Drakpa Gyeltsen please create an empowerment and sadhana for Dorje Shugden as a YIDAM. You who have stated, "You are my Buddha, my Lama, my Yidam, my protector". I ask that you make Dorje Shugden our Yidam.
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I don't know about this aspirational thing or about meeting the incarnation of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen. I'll just wait and see. afterall, I keep being told that whether one meets our Lama physically or not is not important. It is the faith we keep that is important.
So, in the same breath I'll say that we know the incarnation/s is/are moving in the world for this much attention to be put on Dorje Shugden and even have a ban on this practice instituted.
Just as I wish to be by my Lama's side, I have to accept that it may not be so. But, that does not mean that I should be disheartened. So, I'll just keep my faith and practice. So, for the incarnation of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen, I'll make the aspiration but I'll not hold my breath.
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Dorje Shugden, my precious Dharma Protector who are the same nature as my Guru and Yidam; who are the same person as my Guru and Yidam, but who has the specific function of a Dharma Protector, please listen to my request:
The lineage Gurus of the glorious Ganden Oral Lineage have praised you as a Dharma Protector who functions as a Dharma Protector, and though they explain you are the embodiment of the Guru And Yidam, they mean that the Guru-Deity has manifested as you, the Dharma Protector who protects the Ganden Oral Lineage, not that your aspect is explicitly used as a self-generation Yidam practice or that you have completion stages other than the ones already revealed in the Oral Lineage, which are the very ones you Protect because they are sufficient and powerful and blessed. The lineage Gurus have also praised the tantras of Heruka and Vajrayogini as the supreme Tantra for this degenerate age and that no other Tantra surpasses them. Therefore, I beseech you to bless the minds of your followers will develop deep unshakeable faith in the Ganden Oral Lineage and in the tantras of Heruka Father and Mother, that they will stop being distracted from going deeply into the trainings that experience will show them directly what you've been protecting. Lacking faith in the transmission the lineage Gurus have given, they do not regard the teachings as sufficient to produce the results you protect, and in their discontent, rather than spending what little time they have left practicing what they've received, they constantly seek new teachings, and so they don't understand what you protect, or why you protect it, until finally the years of their life are spent and their opportunity lost. Bless them to have faith, then protect this faith that it may urge them deeply into the experience of the whispered lineage. Through the merit of good intention and prayer, may people have the power to focus on their training.
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It’s good to know that this great Lama is amongst us. Even though Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen was ‘eliminated’ by the government of the 5th Dalai Lama over three hundred years ago in Tibet and his reincarnation line banned, that does not mean he has stopped reincarnating and he has continued in a string of high lamas until today, Thus, I am really looking forward to the day that He will reveal Himself to the world and for the ban to be lifted.
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I too share the happiness of everyone here in the sense that Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen have reincarnated and benefiting all. Having the true compassionate qualities of a Buddha, he is definitely amongst us, continuing the works of his previous lifetime. The Tibetan government have tried to eliminate all the works and putting a ban on the search for his reincarnation but the pure intentions of TDG to bring Dharma to all beings cannot be doused by those with political motives.