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About Dorje Shugden => General Discussion => Topic started by: DharmapalasDharma on June 04, 2010, 11:52:07 AM
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To all who are interested please share photos of your Shrines with our protector. This is my shrine.
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Very Nice DD as soon as i figure out how to work the camera i'll see if i can get a few of mine on :)
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This is one of the personal Thangkas of Dorje Shugden and Kache Marpo of His Eminence Kyabje Dagom Rinpoche.
I thought it would be a blessing to share.
TK
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I have just recieved these pictures literally 10 mins ago and would like to share. I am commissioning these two thangkas and it is one week away from being done. It is of course being hand painted.
They will be presented as special gifts for people who have been good friends with me. It will be a great surprise for them. They will treasure these very much.
TK
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I thought I would share my personal Dorje Shugden shrine with everyone. I have many friends who have set up their shrines to Dorje Shugden very grand and beautifully also all around the world. I have a few shrines to Dorje Shugden.
I put the red lighting as an offering to Dorje Shugden. The thangka in the background I had specially commissioned.
May everyone be blessed.
TK
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Amazing. Where did you get the statue? :)
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Beautiful statues
The top one is of an 8 inch Dorje Shugden that is copper body and gold plated on top.
The bottom is of Traksey Shugden (most fiercest form) also 8 inches and made of copper.
These are prized and much treasured by myself.
TK
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Amazing. Where did you get the statue? :)
I ordered the statues off the people of a site a few years back called i think www.dorjeshugden.net which sold many beautiful items. I don't think they are online anymore.
tK
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Beautiful, I never tire of seeing his form...I especially liked the 8" one in goldl.jpg - I'd treasure it myself too! I've downloaded it to have a copy, I hope you don't mind. If only we could carry him around with us...there were some rumblings awhile back about pendants? Whatever happened to that?
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Amazing. Where did you get the statue? :)
The statue looks to be made of brass but has been "beautified" (sorry, bit disrespectful) by the numerous offerings on his face and body. Most likely from India where brass is commonly used.
Just for fun, I searched ebay for dorje shugden statues but there was zilch. Just this book http://www.amazon.com/Dorje-Shugden-controversy-Frederic-Miller/dp/6130079362
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Awsome to see Karma Shugden in a small form.
The large Duldzin of TKs is the same as the one at our Centre. There is a Guy in India who makes them, he makes smaller ones also. I can pass on his contact details if people message me.
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Dear TK:
Incredibly beautiful shrine!
I love the red light.
Kudos, I rejoice in your devotion.
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Hi all,
thank you for sharing these photos of your personal shrines and images. I love them! I don't know why but there is something very warm and comforting about Dorje Shugden, even on the little brochure I picked up that brought me here haha!
I wanted to ask for some advice about setting up a shrine. I've wanted to do so for a long time but have been getting a lot of mixed opinions and advice which has been both confusing and sometimes also worrying. Some people say shrines have to be this way; others say it has to be another way. Some state that we cannot put different images of celestial beings from different religions. Some say that the altar has to be a certain measurement and height even!
I see that in the first photo, your altar looks quite modern and stylish and doesn't seem to have a traditional set up - is this allowed?
How can I set up a little shrine without stepping on any enlightened boots or tripping up anyone's enlightened lion? I don't have much space either so i won't be able to do a whole comprehensive set up as they do in monasteries or centres etc. Advice would be much much appreciated!
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Hi all,
thank you for sharing these photos of your personal shrines and images. I love them! I don't know why but there is something very warm and comforting about Dorje Shugden, even on the little brochure I picked up that brought me here haha!
I wanted to ask for some advice about setting up a shrine. I've wanted to do so for a long time but have been getting a lot of mixed opinions and advice which has been both confusing and sometimes also worrying. Some people say shrines have to be this way; others say it has to be another way. Some state that we cannot put different images of celestial beings from different religions. Some say that the altar has to be a certain measurement and height even!
I see that in the first photo, your altar looks quite modern and stylish and doesn't seem to have a traditional set up - is this allowed?
How can I set up a little shrine without stepping on any enlightened boots or tripping up anyone's enlightened lion? I don't have much space either so i won't be able to do a whole comprehensive set up as they do in monasteries or centres etc. Advice would be much much appreciated!
Hi Mindy,
In general, the placement of items on the altar should be as follows: from left to right, a dharma scripture, the statue, and a stupa. The scripture represents the Buddha's enlightened speech the statue the Buddha's enlightened body, and the stupa the Buddha's enlightened mind.
Of course a modern and stylish altar set-up is allowed...there's nothing wrong with making beautiful offerings to the Buddhas, in whatever way you feel is the most creative or aesthetically pleasing. As an enlightened being, Dorje Shugden abides in non-duality...he doesn't hold any preference so you're not going to be "stepping on any enlightened boots or tripping up anyone's enlightened lion" if you put him next to images of other celestial beings!
I've seen some friends' altars where the space around Dorje Shugden is covered in swathes of twinkling fairy lights. Back in university, I only had a very narrow shelf for my altar (it wasn't a big room at all). I couldn't even burn incense, or it'd set off our smoke alarms! On a friend's suggestion, I made origami offerings (seriously), as well as water offerings in the space I had...so no large tormas and butterlamp offerings for me! ;)
The key is that the offerings are made from the heart, not begrudgingly or with disrespect (e.g. your leftovers). Offer the best you can, with a good motivation and you're good to go. Snow Lion have a good article on how to set up an altar (http://www.snowlionpub.com/pages/altar.html)...good luck!
Anyone else anything to add? I'm sure I missed out stuff.
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Hi mindyswales,
Of course you can make your personal altar modern and stylish. Doreje Shugden is a Buddha (manjushri) and he accepts what is sincere. If there's space constrains, you can set up with minimal offerings, if u really don't have the space. At least one offering like light (candle symbolises light/wisdom) can be done daily.
In my house I have limited space so my set up is with a butterlamp, at times I offer milk, beer, tea, yogurt drink, water, food or whatever I buy outside that I like most.
It is always good to buy what you like best and offer it up. Of course if you have the means for it, you can offer pearls, gems stones, gold etc to DS.
But the very basic is 7bowls of water and a butterlamp would be good. Oh also an incense burner for incense, this can be place on the floor. Most important is the sincerity of the offerings :)
Good luck and Hope you set your altar up soon. Do send us a picture when you have ;)
dsnowlion
I will take a picture of my DS shrine to put up and share soon.
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Wow! Tk your DS statue is so alive!
I like the red lighting effect.
Thank you for also sharing HH Trijang Rinpoche's thangka! It is beautiful and very wrathful - I like! It's very different from many of DS paintings I've seen. Here DS's face looks a bit like Setrap and very nice!
How bless we are to have an audience with so many DS esp one belonging to HH Trijang Rinpoche.
Dsnowlion
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This is one of the personal Thangkas of Dorje Shugden and Kache Marpo of His Eminence Kyabje Dagom Rinpoche.
I thought it would be a blessing to share.
TK
WOW!! Thank you TK for sharing these thangkhas...very happy to receive these pictures.
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Beautiful statues
The top one is of an 8 inch Dorje Shugden that is copper body and gold plated on top.
The bottom is of Traksey Shugden (most fiercest form) also 8 inches and made of copper.
These are prized and much treasured by myself.
TK
OH MY.... how absolutely STUNNING.... i LOVE the statues!!!!!
Thank you so much for sharing... you made my heart go pitterpop! May I have the merit one day to have these beautiful images! Oh dear.. did i sound very covetous...
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It is very beautiful that in all the traditions of Buddhism, setting up of altars exist to help us constantly remind ourselves of what true Buddha natures is. Everything that we do on our altars, cleaning, arranging offerings, filling offerings bowls with water, tea, milk are expressions of our devotions which in turns transforms our conscious efforts into waters which will nurture our seeds of enlightenment.
I think part of our devotion to lord Shugden is shown on our altars! and it is very heart warming and comforting to see so many beautiful altars of our fellow shugdenites here. I love love love the altar with the red back light by TK! Indeed all our DS statues are so alive, but let's move him one step further out into reality by promoting his qualities, activities and prayers!
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Beautiful statues
The top one is of an 8 inch Dorje Shugden that is copper body and gold plated on top.
The bottom is of Traksey Shugden (most fiercest form) also 8 inches and made of copper.
These are prized and much treasured by myself.
TK
OH MY.... how absolutely STUNNING.... i LOVE the statues!!!!!
Thank you so much for sharing... you made my heart go pitterpop! May I have the merit one day to have these beautiful images! Oh dear.. did i sound very covetous...
Is it so wrong to covet Dharmic things? I don't mean to the point of becoming attached where we are disappointed when we don't receive them. However, a desire for Dharma items can be converted into a love of Dharma itself, right? Maybe that's easier to work with, than someone who is totally apathetic? Plus, I'd rather covet a Protector statue than the latest DVD :)
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Is it so wrong to covet Dharmic things? I don't mean to the point of becoming attached where we are disappointed when we don't receive them. However, a desire for Dharma items can be converted into a love of Dharma itself, right? Maybe that's easier to work with, than someone who is totally apathetic? Plus, I'd rather covet a Protector statue than the latest DVD :)
Hahah I can totally emphatise with that! It just seems that I can never have enough Buddha images and statues for example!
I guess, as with anything, it is our motivation behind coveting these Dharma items. You know those phoneys who have really grand altars and have very elaborate expensive set-ups just to show off? I'm sure that they way they covet having a big beautiful Buddha statue is a very different kind of "covet" from the wish that a sincere, perhaps simple practitioner would have for the same statue. I guess the how "good or bad" the coveting/wishin'/hopin' is in relation to how much we sincerely and truly understand the benefits of having this statue. Some people "covet" Buddha images or Dharmic items because they want to badly to be able to give the image away to others and thereby provide them with a holy image/item for their practice. That's certainly a wonderful kind of coveting...
but yes, I also agree with you that as anything in relation to a Buddha is more positive than something secular and mundane, there would be some benefit in "switching" our object of coveting to something higher I.e. better to have a Buddha statue on your birthday wish list than the latest fashion item!
(How many times have I said the word "covet" in this post, gee!)
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This is a video of my shrine.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKy_bKbfQaM
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Thank you for showing us a video of your private shrine DD :)
It's always nice to see how sincere people are towards their practice. The red Vajrayogini tsa tsa you have is very nice, where did you get that from?
xdsnowlion
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I got it at Deer Park Buddhist Center. I think they have bunch of them that they import from FPMT
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Is it so wrong to covet Dharmic things? I don't mean to the point of becoming attached where we are disappointed when we don't receive them. However, a desire for Dharma items can be converted into a love of Dharma itself, right? Maybe that's easier to work with, than someone who is totally apathetic? Plus, I'd rather covet a Protector statue than the latest DVD :)
Hahah I can totally emphatise with that! It just seems that I can never have enough Buddha images and statues for example!
I guess, as with anything, it is our motivation behind coveting these Dharma items. You know those phoneys who have really grand altars and have very elaborate expensive set-ups just to show off? I'm sure that they way they covet having a big beautiful Buddha statue is a very different kind of "covet" from the wish that a sincere, perhaps simple practitioner would have for the same statue. I guess the how "good or bad" the coveting/wishin'/hopin' is in relation to how much we sincerely and truly understand the benefits of having this statue. Some people "covet" Buddha images or Dharmic items because they want to badly to be able to give the image away to others and thereby provide them with a holy image/item for their practice. That's certainly a wonderful kind of coveting...
but yes, I also agree with you that as anything in relation to a Buddha is more positive than something secular and mundane, there would be some benefit in "switching" our object of coveting to something higher I.e. better to have a Buddha statue on your birthday wish list than the latest fashion item!
(How many times have I said the word "covet" in this post, gee!)
Hahaha HD, I would not have guessed how covetous you were over Protector statues :P
There IS that warning about falling for the outer trappings of spiritual practice, without real results to show for it which, as has been explained to me, is why many deities don't manifest miracles anymore. Anyway, the real miracle is inner transformation...pfft, anyone can fly over mountains or walk over rivers ;)
I think it has always been (and always will be) about the motivation. Isn't that what determines if an action produces merit or karma?
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I got it at Deer Park Buddhist Center. I think they have bunch of them that they import from FPMT
Thank you for the info. Another place to get very nice tsatsas and other practice items and where I shop at times are here... check it out
http://kechara.com/eshop/category.php?id=35
xdsnowlion
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Just been enjoying making these lovely Je Tsongkhapa pewter Tsa Tsas..
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Just been enjoying making these lovely Je Tsongkhapa pewter Tsa Tsas..
How absolutely lovely Mohani - did you design them? do you do cast them at home or? Are you doing your preliminary practice of 100K tsa tsas? :)
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Hi Kate-la
I didn't design them. I made a mold of a resin tsa tsa a good friend gave me. Yes I have been casting at home in my kitchen. I had a nice surprise the other day when I got home from work and my three year old daughter had made me a Tsongkhapa using plaster of paris (with some help from my wife) :)
I am not doing it as an official preliminary practice, just a nice hobby to keep busy hands doing something virtuous, and to bring more Je Tsongkhapas into this world. ;)
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Thank you for sharing with us all the beautiful images of Lord Shugden!
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Just been enjoying making these lovely Je Tsongkhapa pewter Tsa Tsas..
Dear Mohani
Thank you for sharing what you have been up to in your kitchen! :) I can imagine your little daughter molding and making tsa tsa..what a wonderful way to plant seeds for your young daughter.
DSFriend
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MY DS
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Does anyone know where to get a relatively small statue of Dorje Shugden?
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Hi Duke,
Do you need it while you are in India?
I know Manjushri Centre in England Generally keep quite a few in stock.
I could give you the contact details of a guy in Delhi who we have got some great ones from, although these ones are unpainted and often require a bit of work.
We have a supplier in Kathmandu who makes and sells guilded/painted Dorjes of different sizes, I could give you his details?
Duncan.x
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Hey Duncan,
"Need" is probably not the correct word I would use. :)
I am just interested in a small statue for my personal travel altar.
Please send me the details if you have any. Also, could you give me some idea about how much they cost and what different sizes they have.
Thanks buddy.
Also- thanks for the help with the pen-pal club. It is a slow process, but your pen-pal is working on a reply to your message. He was very happy to hear from you.
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Hi Duke,
I will send you a message. :)
Dx
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Gorgeous pictures. So glad to have this Forum and this website, actually. Finally, a place to learn, share and enrich ourselves. THANK YOU ALL! Have a great Sunday.
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Just been enjoying making these lovely Je Tsongkhapa pewter Tsa Tsas..
Wow~! are these pewter tsa tsas available for purchase anywhere on the net? they look really neat as gifts for people who are new into Buddhism especially in the Gelug tradition!
I once heard a noble Lama telling me before that everytime he gives out a Je Rinpoche statue, image or poster, he always pray for Tsongkhapa to bless the person with realization and for Dorje Shugden to protect that person. Such a wonderful prayer to do if we hold our vows and commitments to our Lama, Yidam and protector would surely benefit many who sees, touches, or even hears of the name Tsongkhapa!
cheers,
H1N1