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Title: Coral Shugden in Mongolia
Post by: dsiluvu on December 23, 2012, 05:52:33 PM
Dear all lovely shiny Shugdenpas...

Stumble upon a friends picture of this beautiful coral Shugden carving in a beautiful Dorje Shugden mandala. Apparently it is in a Mongolian monastery, thought I'd share with all. If anyone knows of the name of the Monastery do share ;)
Title: Re: Coral Shugden in Mongolia
Post by: Big Uncle on December 23, 2012, 06:09:05 PM
Well, I am not sure about which monastery this coral Dorje Shugden belongs to but I can see the workmanship is very refined. I like the fact that monasteries can practice Dorje Shugden in the open without the fear of persecution as in the Tibetan community of India. There, the Dorje Shugden means nothing and although they are very devoted to the Dalai Lama but they know where the lineage originates.
Anyway, here's a list of monasteries in Mongolia, of which one may be the one that is the custodian of this exquisite shrine to Dorje Shugden:-

Ulaanbaatar:-

Gandantegchinlen Khiid Monastery
Dashi-Choiling Monastery
Dambadarjaa Monastery
Naro Khachod
Drolmaling
Övörkhangai

Erdene Zuu Monastery
Tövhön Monastery
Arkhangai

Zaya Gegeenii Khuree
Bayankhongor

Amar Buyantiin Khiid
Khanchin Lama-iin Süm
Lama-iin Gegeenii Khiid
Dornogobi

Demchogiin Khiid
Övör Bayashulangtu Khiid
Gobi-Altai

Khürkhree Goliin Datsan
[edit]Khentii

Palden Preveng Khiid
[edit]Selenge

Amarbayasgalant Khiid
Shankh Monastery
[edit]Töv aimag

Sardgiin Khiid (Ribo-Gejai-Gandang-Shedrubling)
Title: Re: Coral Shugden in Mongolia
Post by: Barzin on December 23, 2012, 06:31:34 PM
Wow, the coral Shugden is really nicely crafted.  The detailing work is very well done.  It is very sad that in our part of the world with advance technology and education, we are still living in uncivilization whereas country like Mongolia without much has preserved their culture and religion til today.  Just like what Big Uncle said, they can practiced openly and not being watched by the Tibetan community in India.  It is ironic that even practice Buddhism has to be in fear.  It is illogical.
Title: Re: Coral Shugden in Mongolia
Post by: Ensapa on December 24, 2012, 11:13:21 AM
wow! the coral Dorje Shugden tsa tsa is amazing in terms of craftsmanship. You can tell that the person who carved this image really believed in Dorje Shugden from the craftsmanship alone. But what is better is the bigger picture: Dorje Shugden is big in Mongolia and nobody can really stop it as they are not ruled by the CTA but by the Jetsun Khalkas. CTA has been trying to dip their hands into the Mongolian Buddhist scene with a book that talks against Dorje Shugden but I dont think many people are paying attention to that one :)
Title: Re: Coral Shugden in Mongolia
Post by: dsiluvu on December 24, 2012, 05:30:53 PM
Dear friends of Dorje Shugden,

I just got a reply from a friend that this beautifully carved coral image of Lord Dorje Shugden is one of his Shugdenpa family's home in Ulaanbaator. The friend is the disciple of illustrious illustrious Guru Deva Rinpoche!!!

Here's a little info on Guru Deva taken from http://www.dorjeshugden.com/great-masters/recent-masters/the-mahasiddha-bundasheri-tulku-guru-deva/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/great-masters/recent-masters/the-mahasiddha-bundasheri-tulku-guru-deva/)

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Guru Deva Rinpoche, an incarnation of one of the 84 Siddhas, Bundasheri Tulku Guru Deva, was born in Mongolia for the sole purpose of creating “great benefits for the Dharma and all sentient beings”.

He was a highly qualified Lama, having traveled to Tibet at the age of 20 and studied in the great Monastic University of Drepung under great Masters like Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche, Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang, Kyabje Ling Rinpoche and Kyabje Gonsar Rinpoche. He had mastered both Tantra and Sutra.

He is known for his significant contributions towards the building of the palace of the Dalai Lama in India as well as the establishing of the three great Monastic Universities – Ganden, Sera and Drepung – in India, after the Dalai lama, other high Lamas and many Tibetans escaped to India with the invasion of Tibet by the Chinese Communists. He also helped to establish many other monasteries and temples as well as accommodation for the refugees in India.

When Buddhism was revived in Mongolia in 1992, he also went there and helped in the restoration of temples, statues and scriptures. In addition, he saw to the restoration of accommodation and facilities for the monks and the people of Mongolia, and also played a role in reviving the education of the monastics. In all these efforts, he worked extensively, untiringly and in a complete manner to benefit sentient beings, right to his old age.

Sadly, this great holy being was forced to leave India and Nepal and retire to Mongolia after 1986, when he protested the ban on Dharmapala Dorje Shugden by the Dalai Lama. He remained, until his death in 2009, isolated from the Tibetan community amongst whom he had lived and shared and spread the Dharma for the benefit of all beings.
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Dalai Lama in Mongolia Guru Deva Rinpoche (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89nvFubcI4I#)
Title: Re: Coral Shugden in Mongolia
Post by: pgdharma on December 25, 2012, 08:26:15 AM
This is a very nice and unique piece of Dorje Shugden carved in coral. It is very detailed with good workmanship reflecting on the faith and devotion of the skilled craftsman.  Wow and this beautifully carved coral Dorje Shugden is now in the home of the disciple of the illustrious Guru Deva Rinpoche!!! The Mongolians are very fortunate that they are not ruled by the CTA and they can practice Dorje Shugden openly.

Thank you, dsiluvu, for sharing this information with us.
Title: Re: Coral Shugden in Mongolia
Post by: harrynephew on December 25, 2012, 09:32:53 PM
This piece is definitely a beauty in its own right!

I've never seen such a beautiful piece of Coral Dorje Shugden before. It dawned upon me, how much devotion and love and care has been put into creating such a beautiful image of Dorje Shugden for worship and for making extensive offerings. Who in the right frame of mind would do so much for Dorje Shugden if the protector has not proven himself over time and again the great deeds of a Buddha which he has perform.

I rejoice in this offering to Dorje Shugden and sincerely pray that more of such shrines arise in this world to bless those who have made such offerings.
Title: Re: Coral Shugden in Mongolia
Post by: Ensapa on December 26, 2012, 06:09:10 AM
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Guru Deva Rinpoche, an incarnation of one of the 84 Siddhas, Bundasheri Tulku Guru Deva, was born in Mongolia for the sole purpose of creating “great benefits for the Dharma and all sentient beings”.

He was a highly qualified Lama, having traveled to Tibet at the age of 20 and studied in the great Monastic University of Drepung under great Masters like Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche, Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang, Kyabje Ling Rinpoche and Kyabje Gonsar Rinpoche. He had mastered both Tantra and Sutra.

He is known for his significant contributions towards the building of the palace of the Dalai Lama in India as well as the establishing of the three great Monastic Universities – Ganden, Sera and Drepung – in India, after the Dalai lama, other high Lamas and many Tibetans escaped to India with the invasion of Tibet by the Chinese Communists. He also helped to establish many other monasteries and temples as well as accommodation for the refugees in India.

When Buddhism was revived in Mongolia in 1992, he also went there and helped in the restoration of temples, statues and scriptures. In addition, he saw to the restoration of accommodation and facilities for the monks and the people of Mongolia, and also played a role in reviving the education of the monastics. In all these efforts, he worked extensively, untiringly and in a complete manner to benefit sentient beings, right to his old age.

Sadly, this great holy being was forced to leave India and Nepal and retire to Mongolia after 1986, when he protested the ban on Dharmapala Dorje Shugden by the Dalai Lama. He remained, until his death in 2009, isolated from the Tibetan community amongst whom he had lived and shared and spread the Dharma for the benefit of all beings.

This is a very sad story for someone who has benefitted the monastic community so much. How can people even have the heart to kick him off after all that he has contributed? He helped to re-establish the great monasteries and even the Dalai Lama's residence! It should be Guru Dewa Rinpoche's statue that should be erected in Dharamsala instead of the self immolator. For helping the CTA unconditionally...all he got was betrayal and isolation from the very community that he has helped build....how can these people actually sleep well at night knowing that they have mistreated their own benefactor?
Title: Re: Coral Shugden in Mongolia
Post by: lotus1 on December 29, 2012, 08:59:37 PM
Thank you for sharing this beautiful piece of coral tsa tsa of Dorje Shugden. It is nicely craved and setup in a beautiful altar with offerings. Rejoice to the family of disciple of Guru Rinpoche. It is great to see that Dorje Shugden practice are blossoming in Mongolia and it can be practiced openly.

On the other hand, it is sad to hear about the biography of Guru Deva Rinpoche that despite his contributions towards Buddhism and benefiting others, he was forced to leave India just because his printing press published a letter questioning the Dalai Lama’s actions regarding the Dorje Shugden ban and had to be remained isolated from the Tibetan community until his death in 2009. (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/great-masters/recent-masters/h-e-guru-deva-rinpoche/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/great-masters/recent-masters/h-e-guru-deva-rinpoche/)) How would this be done to the great lama? I can only console myself that it is the karma that for Guru Deva Rinpoche to grow Dorje Shugden practices in Mongolia then.

May the ban be lifted soonest so all can practice Dorje Shugden openly and many more can be benefited from lord Shugden!
Title: Re: Coral Shugden in Mongolia
Post by: DharmaSpace on December 31, 2012, 02:18:23 AM
This this piece of art is art,dharma and shows a path to enlightenment. Manjushri's practice is not just good for the scholars and masters it is also benefit for people who engage in the arts too as we can clearly see from this magnificent coral piece from Mongolia.

Despite many people saying Dorje Shugden is the nature of the unenlightened  there is much evidence that points to the real nature of Dorje Shugden is Manjushri after all. Where Dorje Shugden is there is much growth, the promotion of learning etc etc.


Title: Re: Coral Shugden in Mongolia
Post by: kris on March 09, 2013, 07:53:46 PM
Wow! Thank you for sharing these beautiful photos!
Title: Re: Coral Shugden in Mongolia
Post by: samayakeeper on March 10, 2013, 11:26:45 AM
I find this piece of coral carved image of Dorje Shugden was done with love by someone who really was a devout practitioner. He must have taken some time to look for such a big piece of coral for this offering, not to mention the cost of procuring it. Stunningly beautiful!
Title: Re: Coral Shugden in Mongolia
Post by: Rihanna on March 10, 2013, 01:42:06 PM
That is a very beautiful, detailed tsa tsa and quite unusual. I think small acts of wonder like this help to inspire faith in others. Because you must think what inspired the artist to carve it so nicely into a piece of coral? The quality of the work reflects the level of devotion and care of the artist.
Title: Re: Coral Shugden in Mongolia
Post by: Galen on March 10, 2013, 05:01:29 PM
An amazing piece of art and definitely priceless. Coral is already getting rarer these days and to be able to see this piece of tsa tea is very fortunate. The person who carved DS onto this precious coral must love DS very much. It can be considered an offering to DS to have his image on a very rare and valuable stone. A lot of love and care is put into carving it.

Thank you for sharing to benefit us!
Title: Re: Coral Shugden in Mongolia
Post by: Galen on March 10, 2013, 05:04:43 PM
An amazing piece of art and definitely priceless. Coral is already getting rarer these days and to be able to see this piece of tsa tea is very fortunate. The person who carved DS onto this precious coral must love DS very much. It can be considered an offering to DS to have his image on a very rare and valuable stone. A lot of love and care is put into carving it.

Thank you for sharing to benefit us!

To add, i would think carving this tea tsa would liken to building/mounding/making a Buddha statue. Therefore, the person who carved it would have purified a lot of negative body karma and gained lots of merits to produce this beautiful piece.

Title: Re: Coral Shugden in Mongolia
Post by: Benny on March 10, 2013, 06:01:44 PM
Thank you Dsiluvu , for sharing this rare glimpse into the level of devotion one has for the Dharma Protector!
Simply amazing and priceless this offering, in terms of the craftsmanship and material being used. The rarity of finding such a large chunk of red coral must have put the skills of the craftsman/ artist to test. One really have to appreciated that there is very very little margin of error in achieving the level of detail achieved here.

Truly one of a kind , may we all have the fortune to behold this gem.
Title: Re: Coral Shugden in Mongolia
Post by: Ensapa on March 11, 2013, 01:44:22 AM
Thank you Dsiluvu , for sharing this rare glimpse into the level of devotion one has for the Dharma Protector!
Simply amazing and priceless this offering, in terms of the craftsmanship and material being used. The rarity of finding such a large chunk of red coral must have put the skills of the craftsman/ artist to test. One really have to appreciated that there is very very little margin of error in achieving the level of detail achieved here.

Truly one of a kind , may we all have the fortune to behold this gem.

Yeah you can actually feel the devotion of the artist to Dorje Shugden through this image judging from the handiwork and the fine details that are on that block of coral. There is no margin for error - one mistake and the big chunk of coral would be wasted and it would have to either be thrown away or something else be carved from it that would be smaller and probably not so detailed or fine as the artist has to find ways to cover his or her own mistakes when doing the tsatsa.
Title: Re: Coral Shugden in Mongolia
Post by: Dondrup Shugden on January 25, 2015, 04:07:22 PM
The image of Dorje Shugden is beautifully carved on a piece of coral.  It is exquisite, wish that one day I will have the merits to see this image in person.

For now I feel blessed to even have viewed just the photo.  Thank you contributor of this article.
Title: Re: Coral Shugden in Mongolia
Post by: maricisun on January 26, 2015, 02:00:17 AM
Really awesome piece of art. To be able to do it in a coral must have been done by someone with great love and devotion to Dorje Shugden.
Even in Mongolia the people can practice DS freely and lets hope the ban be lifted officially soon and the whole world can practice openly and without fear.
Title: Re: Coral Shugden in Mongolia
Post by: Pema8 on January 26, 2015, 07:35:22 AM
Creating such a beautiful coral Dorje Shugden tsatsa is very beneficial.

"...People who make Buddha images, will possess bright eyes and elegant looks in their after lives; their physical bodies, arms and feet are well-proportioned. Even if they are born as gods, with radiant eyes and countenance, their immaculateness outshines other gods of any realms.
..." www.buddhadordenma.org/makingbuddha.php (http://www.buddhadordenma.org/makingbuddha.php)

This tsatsa is exceptional. The coral itself was beautiful and the creator skillful to bring this supreme Dorje Shugden to life.

 
Title: Re: Coral Shugden in Mongolia
Post by: tingtong on January 26, 2015, 08:24:50 AM
It must be very lucky to have such opportunity to be able to develop such fantastic piece..