We don't really need this. Why are we fighting amongst ourselves? It's very clear that Choktrul Trijang Rinpoche is the unmistaken incarnation as he was found by Kyabje Zong Rinpoche and confirmed by Dorje Shugden. Just because he is a lay lama does not lessen his knowledge, wisdom, compassion or spiritual attainments or make him less qualified to be a lama. Throughout history, there are many examples of lay lamas in Indian and Tibetan tradition.
In the Indian tradition, we have numerous Indian mahasiddhas and even the master Chandragomin was a lay lama. In the Tibetan tradition, we are talking about Marpa, Milarepa and so forth. Even recently, we have Serkong Dorje Chang in our own lineage who is told by very own lama to take up a consort to further his practice. I just find it ridiculous that this is used to denounce a lama and call him fake.
For some reason, I am sure NKT, especially the top brass knows this but they have another unspoken reason for this. Perhaps, it may be a strategic move to 'cajol' Trijang Rinpoche to do more. Whatever it is, it is very obvious that there is more than meets the eye.
Big Uncle is right! We, Shugden practitioners really do need this and do not need to create more problems for ourselves, we do not need more disharmony and more disunity. It is horrible hearing these kind of false accusations from NKT/Geshe Kelsang Gyatso and Kelsang Rabten really sounded very rude and cut throat. It really does not make NKT look good and it actually proves to those against them, that the NKT group are really "not very nice/kind" group of people/sangha. It really makes me lose respect for NKT.
How can NKT say that Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche is false and why bring it up and blow it up NOW? If it was so true and Geshela was so sure, he would have brought it up and blow it up a long long time ago, perhaps when Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche was recognise when he was a child and enthroned?
What he is saying now is that the whole entire Gaden Monastery, H.H. Kyabje Zong Rinpoche that was involved is searching for Trijang Rinpoche's incarnation, and even Dorje Shugden himself who recognised and confirmed Trijang Rinpoche's incarnation via the oracle is also wrong? WOW! Everyone is WRONG except Geshe Kelsang who just heard a remark that no one can even back it up. Well if the whole entire great elite attained masters + Dorje Shugden is wrong, then chances are Geshela can be wrong too! Same logic applies and what more is, there are so many more people who are against him, 1 person who thinks what he heard is accurate.
I'm sorry to say this but Geshe Kelsang sounds EXACTLY like HH the Dalai Lama who said all lineage Lamas who believe in Dorje Shugden are wrong. Geshela sounds exactly like Dalai Lama... isn't this so ironic? I am sorry but I don't buy what Geshela say and is doing now and I do not like the way NKT is blowing this out of proportion and creating a split between Shugden community. It is okay if the NKT wish to stand on their own and no longer wish to associate themselves with a lineage of enlightened masters, they may do so, although I don't see a point, any benefit or any blessings from it, but that is their choice. Just don't drag everyone else into the mud with them please! And stop hurting other people with their dramatic false accusations and lies.
Yes we may not know what craziness Geshela is manifesting here as he is no doubt a pure attained master, but whatever his intentions are, I sure hope it can quickly manifest so that we can put a rest to this chaos and disbelief. However, my request is please NKT sangha/teachers and people, behave well, be careful of your speech so it does not create more negative karma by hurting others and falsely accusing Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche, Geshela may be attained and doing some mahasiddha action here, but you are not, so please watch it and represent your teacher/centre well please. You do not need to be rude at all.