Comments on: Shugden Ban is Illegal and Unconstitutional http://www.dorjeshugden.com/controversy/videos-controversy/shugden-ban-is-illegal-and-unconstitutional/ The Protector whose time has come Thu, 30 Apr 2026 21:50:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Shelly May http://www.dorjeshugden.com/controversy/videos-controversy/shugden-ban-is-illegal-and-unconstitutional/comment-page-1/#comment-28702 Shelly May Fri, 05 Oct 2012 08:51:49 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=13487#comment-28702 Matibhadra - it's true that this level of discrimination is equal to the acts of racism from back in the day by the ku klux klan. It surprises me constantly that a group of people so globally known for their religion and their teachings of compassion are still behaving so brutally to each other. The discrimination is appalling and there needs to be much more awareness made to alert the world of this gross violation of human rights. This attacks the most basic rights and it is shocking that our modern world is still allowing something like this to happen Matibhadra – it’s true that this level of discrimination is equal to the acts of racism from back in the day by the ku klux klan. It surprises me constantly that a group of people so globally known for their religion and their teachings of compassion are still behaving so brutally to each other. The discrimination is appalling and there needs to be much more awareness made to alert the world of this gross violation of human rights. This attacks the most basic rights and it is shocking that our modern world is still allowing something like this to happen

]]> By: Matibhadra http://www.dorjeshugden.com/controversy/videos-controversy/shugden-ban-is-illegal-and-unconstitutional/comment-page-1/#comment-28559 Matibhadra Tue, 04 Sep 2012 03:08:02 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=13487#comment-28559 Not only illegal and unconstitutional, but plainly criminal -- at least in my country, Brazil, where it is put on a level with other crimes such as racism and torture and punishable with up to five years in prison. Not only illegal and unconstitutional, but plainly criminal — at least in my country, Brazil, where it is put on a level with other crimes such as racism and torture and punishable with up to five years in prison.

]]> By: Matibhadra http://www.dorjeshugden.com/controversy/videos-controversy/shugden-ban-is-illegal-and-unconstitutional/comment-page-1/#comment-28558 Matibhadra Tue, 04 Sep 2012 02:35:59 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=13487#comment-28558 Not only illegal and unconstitutional, but plainly criminal -- at least in my country, Brazil, where it is punishable with up to five years in prison. Not only illegal and unconstitutional, but plainly criminal — at least in my country, Brazil, where it is punishable with up to five years in prison.

]]> By: Gaz http://www.dorjeshugden.com/controversy/videos-controversy/shugden-ban-is-illegal-and-unconstitutional/comment-page-1/#comment-28500 Gaz Tue, 28 Aug 2012 15:17:38 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=13487#comment-28500 Unfortunately Benny what you say is true and applies to almost all Tibetans. But then again, the Dalai Lama isnt my Guru so, as much as I respect him, I dont have to do what he says. Second, in the context of Guru Devotion, we also have to check things out. Angulimala cut off 999 peoples index fingers on the instructions of his Guru. Was that Guru Devotion? Yeah, it was but coupled with WRONG VIEW so the result wouldnt have been good anyway. Unshakable Guru Devotion is key to attainments, but I think it also has to be coupled with logic, and I do remember seeing in the 50 Verses of Guru Devotion a verse about how you can explain in polite words to your teacher if you cannot comply with something. Is that verse a licence for us to forever make excuses about why we cant comply with our teachers instructions? No. If youv eexamined something with pure logic, and your motivation is pure, whats wrong with offering such an explanation? Anyway, it sounds weird and illogical to abandon a practice that your teacher has given you, just on the words of the Dalai Lama, when you should hold everything given by your teacher to be sacred. Seems to me like a perfectly logical reason to explain why you cant comply with the ban. Unfortunately Benny what you say is true and applies to almost all Tibetans. But then again, the Dalai Lama isnt my Guru so, as much as I respect him, I dont have to do what he says.

Second, in the context of Guru Devotion, we also have to check things out. Angulimala cut off 999 peoples index fingers on the instructions of his Guru. Was that Guru Devotion? Yeah, it was but coupled with WRONG VIEW so the result wouldnt have been good anyway.

Unshakable Guru Devotion is key to attainments, but I think it also has to be coupled with logic, and I do remember seeing in the 50 Verses of Guru Devotion a verse about how you can explain in polite words to your teacher if you cannot comply with something.

Is that verse a licence for us to forever make excuses about why we cant comply with our teachers instructions? No. If youv eexamined something with pure logic, and your motivation is pure, whats wrong with offering such an explanation?

Anyway, it sounds weird and illogical to abandon a practice that your teacher has given you, just on the words of the Dalai Lama, when you should hold everything given by your teacher to be sacred. Seems to me like a perfectly logical reason to explain why you cant comply with the ban.

]]> By: benny http://www.dorjeshugden.com/controversy/videos-controversy/shugden-ban-is-illegal-and-unconstitutional/comment-page-1/#comment-27033 benny Mon, 02 Jul 2012 12:02:50 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=13487#comment-27033 It is as simple as "if you respect me as your Guru , just follow what i say" even if means breaking the law or laws. Purely because these laws are just secular in nature and cannot be compared to the instructions of their holy guru. His words is the law ! It is as simple as “if you respect me as your Guru , just follow what i say” even if means breaking the law or laws. Purely because these laws are just secular in nature and cannot be compared to the instructions of their holy guru. His words is the law !

]]> By: Odette http://www.dorjeshugden.com/controversy/videos-controversy/shugden-ban-is-illegal-and-unconstitutional/comment-page-1/#comment-27020 Odette Mon, 02 Jul 2012 08:33:05 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=13487#comment-27020 Yes, simple yet direct explanation why the ban of Dorje Shugden practice is illegal and unacceptable from constitutional point of view. Perhaps with respect Dalai Lama must give us stronger and convincing reason why should we stop practicing the enlightened Dorje Shugden? Thank you. Yes, simple yet direct explanation why the ban of Dorje Shugden practice is illegal and unacceptable from constitutional point of view. Perhaps with respect Dalai Lama must give us stronger and convincing reason why should we stop practicing the enlightened Dorje Shugden? Thank you.

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