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		<title>By: Dechen Dorjee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dechen Dorjee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 10:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am graduated form Central University of Tibetan Studies from Varanasi.

I  have 3 years experience of teaching tibetan to foreigners and also qualified teacher.

I assure you that i can make people want me their teacher for long time.

Can i have privilege to teach tibetan at your centre.

please feel free to ask any question.

thank you and hopin gto hear soon from you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am graduated form Central University of Tibetan Studies from Varanasi.</p>
<p>I  have 3 years experience of teaching tibetan to foreigners and also qualified teacher.</p>
<p>I assure you that i can make people want me their teacher for long time.</p>
<p>Can i have privilege to teach tibetan at your centre.</p>
<p>please feel free to ask any question.</p>
<p>thank you and hopin gto hear soon from you</p>
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		<title>By: Aqua Bubble at abubbleshooter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aqua Bubble at abubbleshooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche, His Holiness the Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden : Dorje Shugden and Dalai Lama &#8211; Spreading Dharma Together is a remarkable share. Many thanks for this writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche, His Holiness the Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden : Dorje Shugden and Dalai Lama &#8211; Spreading Dharma Together is a remarkable share. Many thanks for this writing.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2011 04:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Munindhara, 

Then those who wish to practice should practice, and those who don’t and are in power should not ban, say negative things and do not discourage. 

Purchok Ngawang Jampa &amp; Changkya Rolpai Dorje did not practice Vajrakilaya, Wrathful Guru Drolod, Nakpo Tromo, Thamthing Yangsang,  Lamdre or many practices associated with other schools of Buddhism also. Just because they did not practice, does not mean those practices are not valid. So just because they did not practice does not mean they may disparage those practices also.

Some great masters practiced Dorje Shugden and some don’t. The ones that do practice Shugden should be allowed to in peace and those who don’t then don’t. It’s called respect, religious freedom and mutual understanding. 

There are high lamas on both camps, so the solution, do not disparage and allow practice just like in any other situation. Whose realizations are higher? Cannot say. Panchen Lama practices. Dalai Lama does not. Panchen Rinpoche is the emanation of Amitabah. Dalai Lama is the emanation of Avalokitesvara. Who is more attained? 

No Govt or religious figure should disparage any religious practice or worship in today’s world. It is bad leadership. It is bad policy. Imagine religious leaders in Japan, America, France, Canada saying this practice is good and that is not so not allowed. What a big hooha that would create? Do you think the public from those countries would tolerate such laws or remarks? So why should HHDL ban or speak against any practice especially those of his own teachers. HHDL and Tibetan govt must be progressive and not speak against any practice within Tibet and outside. That is good policy. Full stop.  

Mana

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Munindhara, </p>
<p>Then those who wish to practice should practice, and those who don’t and are in power should not ban, say negative things and do not discourage. </p>
<p>Purchok Ngawang Jampa &#038; Changkya Rolpai Dorje did not practice Vajrakilaya, Wrathful Guru Drolod, Nakpo Tromo, Thamthing Yangsang,  Lamdre or many practices associated with other schools of Buddhism also. Just because they did not practice, does not mean those practices are not valid. So just because they did not practice does not mean they may disparage those practices also.</p>
<p>Some great masters practiced Dorje Shugden and some don’t. The ones that do practice Shugden should be allowed to in peace and those who don’t then don’t. It’s called respect, religious freedom and mutual understanding. </p>
<p>There are high lamas on both camps, so the solution, do not disparage and allow practice just like in any other situation. Whose realizations are higher? Cannot say. Panchen Lama practices. Dalai Lama does not. Panchen Rinpoche is the emanation of Amitabah. Dalai Lama is the emanation of Avalokitesvara. Who is more attained? </p>
<p>No Govt or religious figure should disparage any religious practice or worship in today’s world. It is bad leadership. It is bad policy. Imagine religious leaders in Japan, America, France, Canada saying this practice is good and that is not so not allowed. What a big hooha that would create? Do you think the public from those countries would tolerate such laws or remarks? So why should HHDL ban or speak against any practice especially those of his own teachers. HHDL and Tibetan govt must be progressive and not speak against any practice within Tibet and outside. That is good policy. Full stop.  </p>
<p>Mana</p>
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		<title>By: munindhara</title>
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		<dc:creator>munindhara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2011 03:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Shugdhen group were saying that Phabongkha, Trijang Rinpoche and Zong Rinpoche are practicing and due to this reason Shugdhen practice is valid?
Then on the other side, Phurcho Ngawang Jampa, Trichen Ngawang Chogdhen, Changkya Rolpai Dorjee, Fifth Dalai Lama, thirteen Dalai Lama and Current Dalai lama they all strickly avoided and suggested others to practice it, why????? These all are Gelugpa lamas and they all are great masters during their time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Shugdhen group were saying that Phabongkha, Trijang Rinpoche and Zong Rinpoche are practicing and due to this reason Shugdhen practice is valid?<br />
Then on the other side, Phurcho Ngawang Jampa, Trichen Ngawang Chogdhen, Changkya Rolpai Dorjee, Fifth Dalai Lama, thirteen Dalai Lama and Current Dalai lama they all strickly avoided and suggested others to practice it, why????? These all are Gelugpa lamas and they all are great masters during their time.</p>
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		<title>By: vajrastorm</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2010 03:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish to respond to two threads of argument presented here. 
The first is regards HH Dalai Lama as Chenrezig. There is no doubt whatsoever that His Holiness IS the great compassionate Chenrezig. I fully agree that His Holiness has done an unexcelled job of spreading Buddhadharma to even the far flung reaches of the world. Indeed, it has been observed before that through His indefatigable efforts in spreading the Buddha&#039;s teachings everywhere, Buddhism is now a &quot;household word&quot;. 
The second is regarding Dharmapala Dorje Shugden. The great attained Master of our times, a Root Guru to many other great and attained Masters,Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche, has shown and proven, beyond the shadow of a doubt,that Dorje Shugden is an Enlightened Dharma Protector, indeed a Wisdom Dharma Protector, whose sole reason to arise as a Protector was to honor a promise to protect the Dharma(especially the teachings of Je Tsongkhapa,particularly his unexcelled teachings on Nargajuna&#039;a Middle View).This clear evidence is contained in Trijang Rinpoche&#039;s book &#039; Music Delighting The Ocean Of caProtectors&#039;.
It can also be seen that Dorje Shugden is a Buddha, by the virtual fact that he cannot be destroyed by efforts to subjugate him in the past by powerful attained and holy beings. Furthermore, looking carefully at His form and iconography,we can conclude that He is a Wisdom Being of the same nature as Je Tsongkhapa.Also, despite every effort to ban His practice, it is still spreading in an unstoppable fashion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish to respond to two threads of argument presented here.<br />
The first is regards HH Dalai Lama as Chenrezig. There is no doubt whatsoever that His Holiness IS the great compassionate Chenrezig. I fully agree that His Holiness has done an unexcelled job of spreading Buddhadharma to even the far flung reaches of the world. Indeed, it has been observed before that through His indefatigable efforts in spreading the Buddha&#8217;s teachings everywhere, Buddhism is now a &#8220;household word&#8221;.<br />
The second is regarding Dharmapala Dorje Shugden. The great attained Master of our times, a Root Guru to many other great and attained Masters,Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche, has shown and proven, beyond the shadow of a doubt,that Dorje Shugden is an Enlightened Dharma Protector, indeed a Wisdom Dharma Protector, whose sole reason to arise as a Protector was to honor a promise to protect the Dharma(especially the teachings of Je Tsongkhapa,particularly his unexcelled teachings on Nargajuna&#8217;a Middle View).This clear evidence is contained in Trijang Rinpoche&#8217;s book &#8216; Music Delighting The Ocean Of caProtectors&#8217;.<br />
It can also be seen that Dorje Shugden is a Buddha, by the virtual fact that he cannot be destroyed by efforts to subjugate him in the past by powerful attained and holy beings. Furthermore, looking carefully at His form and iconography,we can conclude that He is a Wisdom Being of the same nature as Je Tsongkhapa.Also, despite every effort to ban His practice, it is still spreading in an unstoppable fashion.</p>
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		<title>By: kurava</title>
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		<dc:creator>kurava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am really confused by this article by Lama Zopa ,with all due respect to him.

There do not seem to be any definitive conclusion to all the views he had put forward and some are contradictory.

There are also assertions or arguments which, perhaps require more qualifications. For example, he said HH is the definitive Chenrezig as predicted by Sakyamuni. I would have liked to see some authoritative source references mentioned rather than simply asserting , ‘Who else can Chenrezig be?’

Are we to give weight to a statement by HH saying ,’ I remembered I was with Sakyamuni in India’ establishing him as a bodhisattva? Anyone can say that. According to the article here, HH said that to correct those who believed what he had said previously that he had no attainments. I thought this tend to further confuse instead of clarifying.

After Lama Zopa told students to follow HH’s instructions, he then reminded us of what Lord Buddha said to check things out for ourselves and decide based on one’s wisdom and not just follow what the teacher said .

Another passage said we should regard all Gurus as Buddhas and have no doubt whatever they do is correct. He then quoted from the Vinaya saying that if the advice is not Dharma we should reject. Who is the wise one then- the Guru or student?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am really confused by this article by Lama Zopa ,with all due respect to him.</p>
<p>There do not seem to be any definitive conclusion to all the views he had put forward and some are contradictory.</p>
<p>There are also assertions or arguments which, perhaps require more qualifications. For example, he said HH is the definitive Chenrezig as predicted by Sakyamuni. I would have liked to see some authoritative source references mentioned rather than simply asserting , ‘Who else can Chenrezig be?’</p>
<p>Are we to give weight to a statement by HH saying ,’ I remembered I was with Sakyamuni in India’ establishing him as a bodhisattva? Anyone can say that. According to the article here, HH said that to correct those who believed what he had said previously that he had no attainments. I thought this tend to further confuse instead of clarifying.</p>
<p>After Lama Zopa told students to follow HH’s instructions, he then reminded us of what Lord Buddha said to check things out for ourselves and decide based on one’s wisdom and not just follow what the teacher said .</p>
<p>Another passage said we should regard all Gurus as Buddhas and have no doubt whatever they do is correct. He then quoted from the Vinaya saying that if the advice is not Dharma we should reject. Who is the wise one then- the Guru or student?</p>
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