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	<title>Comments on: Zasep Rinpoche&#8217;s writings on Tibet, Dorje Shugden and the Tibetan Government</title>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2019 07:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many evidences showing Dorje Shugden is a not spirit. If people who practise Dorje Shugden will go to hell after they die, how come Trijang Rinpoche, Zong Rinpoche, Lama Yeshe and other Gelug lamas who practised Dorje Shugden in their previous life came back in a perfect human body? If Dorje Shugden is an evil spirit, it is impossible he cannot be subdued by powerful pujas or lamas. If Dorje Shugden practice is a bad practice, why do high lamas still give Dorje Shugden initiatoins to people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many evidences showing Dorje Shugden is a not spirit. If people who practise Dorje Shugden will go to hell after they die, how come Trijang Rinpoche, Zong Rinpoche, Lama Yeshe and other Gelug lamas who practised Dorje Shugden in their previous life came back in a perfect human body? If Dorje Shugden is an evil spirit, it is impossible he cannot be subdued by powerful pujas or lamas. If Dorje Shugden practice is a bad practice, why do high lamas still give Dorje Shugden initiatoins to people?</p>
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		<title>By: kakhanga</title>
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		<dc:creator>kakhanga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2019 04:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it strange why there are so many Dorje Shugden lamas out there but not many are willing to speak up. If they are brave enough  to choose Dorje Shugden practice, why don&#039;t they make a step further and stand up unanimously to fight for the lifting of Dorje Shugden ban? If they can put their act together, I am sure the discrimination against Dorje Shugden practitioners will be lessened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it strange why there are so many Dorje Shugden lamas out there but not many are willing to speak up. If they are brave enough  to choose Dorje Shugden practice, why don&#8217;t they make a step further and stand up unanimously to fight for the lifting of Dorje Shugden ban? If they can put their act together, I am sure the discrimination against Dorje Shugden practitioners will be lessened.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorje S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorje S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Aug 2019 06:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s very important for high lamas like Zasep Rinpoche to tell the truth about Dorje Shugden ban. Dorje Shugden practitioners need that, the world needs to know the truth too. It would be very hard to convince anyone how bad the Dorje Shugden ban is, if majority of  Dorje Shugden lamas remain quiet. What do you want others to think? Of course people will listen to the only voice which is Dalai Lama and no one else. More Dorje Shugden lamas should stand up and tell the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s very important for high lamas like Zasep Rinpoche to tell the truth about Dorje Shugden ban. Dorje Shugden practitioners need that, the world needs to know the truth too. It would be very hard to convince anyone how bad the Dorje Shugden ban is, if majority of  Dorje Shugden lamas remain quiet. What do you want others to think? Of course people will listen to the only voice which is Dalai Lama and no one else. More Dorje Shugden lamas should stand up and tell the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Ngawang Jigme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ngawang Jigme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 May 2019 17:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Unlike 5 years ago, Tibetan leader Lobsang Sangay is not invited to Prime Minister Modi&#039;s swearing-in ceremony this time. It is clear that PM Modi of India snubs the Tibetan leadership once again in favour of deeper ties with China. The Tibetan leadership finds itself increasingly isolated as nobody wants to offend China by lending any support to the ungrateful Tibetans. &lt;/b&gt;

&lt;q&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:1.4em;color:red&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;PM Modi snubs Tibetan leadership for swearing-in ceremony&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
By Tenzin Dharpo
May. 30, 2019
DHARAMSHALA, May 30: The Indian Prime Minister who is fresh off of a massive win in the Indian Lok Sabha elections has done a U-turn by not inviting exile Tibetan government’s President to the swearing in ceremony due to be held later today, in a bid to not anger Beijing.
The President of the exile Tibetan government, known officially as the Central Tibetan Administration, Dr. Lobsang Sangay’s absence today at the Rashtrapati Bhavan in New Delhi marks a stark contrast to 2014 when the elected Tibetan leader was seated in the former rows at the ceremony when PM Modi was sworn into office the first time around. 
The invitation to Dr. Sangay in May 2014 drew strong objection from the Chinese government who lodged an official protest censuring New Delhi’s disregard for the so-called ‘One-China policy’. Many said at the time that the invite was posturing at most, of Modi’s intent to India’s neighbor and biggest rivals both in Asia and global arenas. 
The New Delhi-Beijing relations post the Doklam stand off and Wuhan summit has meant that India has given a cold shoulder to the exile Tibetan set up, thereby taking a step back in using the much-touted ‘Tibet card’. The shift in policy has markedly been seen on the ground with New Delhi issuing an advisory to senior leaders to avoid His Holiness the Dalai Lama or pushing the CTA to shift the “thank you India” ceremony from New Delhi to Dharamshala last year.
The head of the Tibetan polity who extended pleasantries to PM Modi on his win, however may have anticipated the snub. Days after Modi’s historic election win, Sangay flew to the United States and is scheduled to return on June 5 to India next week.
http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=41474&amp;article=PM+Modi+snubs+Tibetan+leadership+for+swearing-in+ceremony&lt;/q&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Unlike 5 years ago, Tibetan leader Lobsang Sangay is not invited to Prime Minister Modi&#8217;s swearing-in ceremony this time. It is clear that PM Modi of India snubs the Tibetan leadership once again in favour of deeper ties with China. The Tibetan leadership finds itself increasingly isolated as nobody wants to offend China by lending any support to the ungrateful Tibetans. </b></p>
<p><q><span style="font-size:1.4em;color:red"><b>PM Modi snubs Tibetan leadership for swearing-in ceremony</b></span><br />
By Tenzin Dharpo<br />
May. 30, 2019<br />
DHARAMSHALA, May 30: The Indian Prime Minister who is fresh off of a massive win in the Indian Lok Sabha elections has done a U-turn by not inviting exile Tibetan government’s President to the swearing in ceremony due to be held later today, in a bid to not anger Beijing.<br />
The President of the exile Tibetan government, known officially as the Central Tibetan Administration, Dr. Lobsang Sangay’s absence today at the Rashtrapati Bhavan in New Delhi marks a stark contrast to 2014 when the elected Tibetan leader was seated in the former rows at the ceremony when PM Modi was sworn into office the first time around.<br />
The invitation to Dr. Sangay in May 2014 drew strong objection from the Chinese government who lodged an official protest censuring New Delhi’s disregard for the so-called ‘One-China policy’. Many said at the time that the invite was posturing at most, of Modi’s intent to India’s neighbor and biggest rivals both in Asia and global arenas.<br />
The New Delhi-Beijing relations post the Doklam stand off and Wuhan summit has meant that India has given a cold shoulder to the exile Tibetan set up, thereby taking a step back in using the much-touted ‘Tibet card’. The shift in policy has markedly been seen on the ground with New Delhi issuing an advisory to senior leaders to avoid His Holiness the Dalai Lama or pushing the CTA to shift the “thank you India” ceremony from New Delhi to Dharamshala last year.<br />
The head of the Tibetan polity who extended pleasantries to PM Modi on his win, however may have anticipated the snub. Days after Modi’s historic election win, Sangay flew to the United States and is scheduled to return on June 5 to India next week.<br />
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		<title>By: Rohit Sharma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohit Sharma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2019 14:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contemplate this:

Indian journalists sound desperate when they talk about terrorist attacks on India. As this article correctly states, there is little that India can do to address terrorism as they seem to operate from Pakistan. &lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;To deal with the terrorists, Indians will have to literally attack Pakistan which it cannot do.&lt;/strong&gt;

Well, there is something India can do which is to stop Dharamsala&#039;s terrorist activities against China being executed from Indian soil. The Tibetans have been attacking China for decades, yet they say they wish to return to Tibet. How do you return to a place you constantly criticize? The Dalai Lama is literally begging China to allow him to visit the Five Peaks of Manjushri pilgrimage site in China and also his birthplace in Amdo, Tibet. But if the Dalai Lama keeps criticizing China, why would they sit at the bargaining table with him? India allows for all of this to happen on Indian soil, so that would irritate China. 

Yet India wants concessions from China on the terrorist issue. Meanwhile, Beijing equates Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) leader Hafiz Saeed to India supporting the Dalai Lama against China for five decades now. &lt;font color=#ff0000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Furthermore, India wants China to speak up against Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM) Masood Azhar. But India does not speak up against Dalai Lama.&lt;/font&gt; &lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;Whether the world thinks the Dalai Lama is the good guy or not, he is a thorn in China&#039;s side so anyone that supports him is not supporting China.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;font color=#ff0000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Similar to the situation, LeT&#039;s Hafiz Saeed and JeM&#039;s Masood Azhar are a thorn in India&#039;s side but they do not bother China and her allies, so why should China do anything about them?&lt;/font&gt; &lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;If India does something on the Dalai Lama, then it would be fair to ask China to do something about their support of Lashkar-e-Taiba leader Hafiz Saeed and Jaish-e-Mohammed&#039;s Masood Azhar. Simple equation.&lt;/strong&gt;

These reports are really bare-faced hypocrisy. It implies one nation is helpless against terrorists because the terrorists camp out in another country. But that did not stop the US from heavily bombing Iraq on the basis that it was harboring terrorists. The US did not hesitate to overthrow the government and murder its leader Saddam Hussein.

&lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;It is also very hypocritical that the same journalists who are outraged at China&#039;s annexation of Tibet are quiet about Israel&#039;s annexation of Palestine.&lt;/strong&gt;

It is interesting to note that most terrorist attacks are aimed at the US and her allies. &lt;font color=#ff0000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Everyone conveniently forgets that the US has been throwing their weight around for decades and can even determine which leader they want in other countries.&lt;/font&gt;
Back to India - if China can convince North Korea to have détente with the US, China can similarly help India with the JeM. India simply has to give up the Tibet card. The article is also a one-sided opinion piece because India faces as many terrorist threats from Bangladesh, with just as many terrorist camps, but because Bangladesh is not China, their involvement is not mentioned.

India is a great country. &lt;font color=#ff0000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;China and India as friends will be able to influence the globe literally economically and, eventually, militarily.&lt;/font&gt; But India has to play fair. By supporting the Dalai Lama, India will get nothing and furthermore, it will be a stumbling block to China&#039;s 1.4 billion people becoming friends with India&#039;s 1.3 billion people. 

&lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;The Dalai Lama has to be compassionate and stop speaking against China because he has to consider the difficulty he places India in as his host. Each time he criticizes and allows his refugees to protest against China and ask for western support, it makes China look bad. So if the Dalai Lama wants China and India to become closer and benefit each other economically then he has to be silent on this already.&lt;/strong&gt;

The Diplomat’s Prarthana Basu sums it up very well by saying in the article below that &quot;Now with another terrorist attack infuriating India’s populace, the mystery behind this Chinese silence remains unsolved. While most attribute China’s apparent silence as a favor to Pakistan, as both continue to maintain their &quot;all-weather friendship,&quot; others argue that China holds India responsible for granting political asylum to the Tibetan leader Dalai Lama, whom Beijing equates to Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) leader Hafiz Saeed.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contemplate this:</p>
<p>Indian journalists sound desperate when they talk about terrorist attacks on India. As this article correctly states, there is little that India can do to address terrorism as they seem to operate from Pakistan. <strong class="bbcode-strong">To deal with the terrorists, Indians will have to literally attack Pakistan which it cannot do.</strong></p>
<p>Well, there is something India can do which is to stop Dharamsala&#8217;s terrorist activities against China being executed from Indian soil. The Tibetans have been attacking China for decades, yet they say they wish to return to Tibet. How do you return to a place you constantly criticize? The Dalai Lama is literally begging China to allow him to visit the Five Peaks of Manjushri pilgrimage site in China and also his birthplace in Amdo, Tibet. But if the Dalai Lama keeps criticizing China, why would they sit at the bargaining table with him? India allows for all of this to happen on Indian soil, so that would irritate China. </p>
<p>Yet India wants concessions from China on the terrorist issue. Meanwhile, Beijing equates Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) leader Hafiz Saeed to India supporting the Dalai Lama against China for five decades now. <font color=#ff0000 class="bbcode-color">Furthermore, India wants China to speak up against Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM) Masood Azhar. But India does not speak up against Dalai Lama.</font> <strong class="bbcode-strong">Whether the world thinks the Dalai Lama is the good guy or not, he is a thorn in China&#8217;s side so anyone that supports him is not supporting China.</strong> <font color=#ff0000 class="bbcode-color">Similar to the situation, LeT&#8217;s Hafiz Saeed and JeM&#8217;s Masood Azhar are a thorn in India&#8217;s side but they do not bother China and her allies, so why should China do anything about them?</font> <strong class="bbcode-strong">If India does something on the Dalai Lama, then it would be fair to ask China to do something about their support of Lashkar-e-Taiba leader Hafiz Saeed and Jaish-e-Mohammed&#8217;s Masood Azhar. Simple equation.</strong></p>
<p>These reports are really bare-faced hypocrisy. It implies one nation is helpless against terrorists because the terrorists camp out in another country. But that did not stop the US from heavily bombing Iraq on the basis that it was harboring terrorists. The US did not hesitate to overthrow the government and murder its leader Saddam Hussein.</p>
<p><strong class="bbcode-strong">It is also very hypocritical that the same journalists who are outraged at China&#8217;s annexation of Tibet are quiet about Israel&#8217;s annexation of Palestine.</strong></p>
<p>It is interesting to note that most terrorist attacks are aimed at the US and her allies. <font color=#ff0000 class="bbcode-color">Everyone conveniently forgets that the US has been throwing their weight around for decades and can even determine which leader they want in other countries.</font><br />
Back to India &#8211; if China can convince North Korea to have détente with the US, China can similarly help India with the JeM. India simply has to give up the Tibet card. The article is also a one-sided opinion piece because India faces as many terrorist threats from Bangladesh, with just as many terrorist camps, but because Bangladesh is not China, their involvement is not mentioned.</p>
<p>India is a great country. <font color=#ff0000 class="bbcode-color">China and India as friends will be able to influence the globe literally economically and, eventually, militarily.</font> But India has to play fair. By supporting the Dalai Lama, India will get nothing and furthermore, it will be a stumbling block to China&#8217;s 1.4 billion people becoming friends with India&#8217;s 1.3 billion people. </p>
<p><strong class="bbcode-strong">The Dalai Lama has to be compassionate and stop speaking against China because he has to consider the difficulty he places India in as his host. Each time he criticizes and allows his refugees to protest against China and ask for western support, it makes China look bad. So if the Dalai Lama wants China and India to become closer and benefit each other economically then he has to be silent on this already.</strong></p>
<p>The Diplomat’s Prarthana Basu sums it up very well by saying in the article below that &#8220;Now with another terrorist attack infuriating India’s populace, the mystery behind this Chinese silence remains unsolved. While most attribute China’s apparent silence as a favor to Pakistan, as both continue to maintain their &#8220;all-weather friendship,&#8221; others argue that China holds India responsible for granting political asylum to the Tibetan leader Dalai Lama, whom Beijing equates to Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) leader Hafiz Saeed.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Karma Kagyu School Does Not Need Dalai Lama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karma Kagyu School Does Not Need Dalai Lama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2019 08:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span style=&quot;text-decoration:underline&quot; class=&quot;bbcode-underline&quot;&gt;&lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12pt&quot; class=&quot;bbcode-size&quot;&gt;Karmapa Thaye Dorje Ignores the Dalai Lama&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;

(1)&lt;font color=red class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt; Decades ago, the Shamarpa asked the Dalai Lama to endorse Thaye Dorje as the Karmapa. Shamarpa proved to the Dalai Lama that Thaye Dorje was the Karmapa.&lt;/font&gt; The Dalai Lama still refused as it will make the Dalai Lama look bad for endorsing Ogyen Trinley. ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJJXYAz3Bz0

&lt;font color=red class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;It is known that Tai Situ Rinpoche recognized Ogyen Trinley by stealth.&lt;/font&gt; Tai Situ Rinpoche used the Dalai Lama&#039;s fame to promote his Ogyen Trinley candidate in order to secure the Karmapa wealth of many generations.

(2) Even though the Dalai Lama endorsed Ogyen Trinley as Karmapa, Thaye Dorje could not be restrained and continues to grow immensely in popularity all over the world. &lt;font color=red class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Even without the Dalai Lama&#039;s endorsement, the Karmapa Thaye Dorje is growing in importance.&lt;/font&gt; Tai Situ Rinpoche thought that without the Dalai Lama&#039;s endorsement, the Karmapa Thaye Dorje would fall and become nothing. He was wrong. 

(3) Shamarpa Rinpoche had asked the Dalai Lama to at least ordain Thaye Dorje as a monk when he was very young and the Dalai Lama refused. This refusal hurt Shamarpa and the Karmapa Thaye Dorje very much. The Dalai Lama sidelined Shamarpa Rinpoche and Thaye Dorje. It was a grievous insult and detrimental interference. In the Karma Kagyu tradition it is the Shamarpa who is the first and foremost to recognize the Karmapas and only in his absence do other regents recognize the Karmapas. Not only did the Dalai Lama interfere in Karma Kagyu affairs but the Dalai Lama took sides. That caused so much fighting and disharmony within the Karma Kagyu school of Buddhism. &lt;font color=red class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Tai Situ Rinpoche was wrong not to consult with Shamarpa Rinpoche in all of this.&lt;/font&gt;

(4) The Dalai Lama had no business interfering in Karma Kagyu traditions by recognizing a Karmapa. &lt;font color=red class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;In the history of the Karma Kagyu school, there has not been one Karmapa recognized by a Dalai Lama nor did they ever need the Dalai Lama&#039;s endorsement.&lt;/font&gt; This interference by the Dalai Lama has caused the Karma Kagyu school to take two sides and broke them up and created much disharmony. The disharmony, fighting and mud-slinging as to which one is the real Karmapa has continued to this day in 2019. 

(5) Shamarpa Rinpoche passed away in 2014 and it is up to the Karmapa to recognize his incarnation without the endorsement or interference of the Dalai Lama.

(6) &lt;font color=red class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Now the Karmapa Thaye Dorje recognizes his son born in 2018 as Shamarpa Rinpoche&#039;s incarnation and he does not ask the Dalai Lama to endorse this incarnation.&lt;/font&gt; He does not need it. The Dalai Lama has done enough damage. This will shift the dynamics of the Karma Kagyu school again in favor of the Shamarpa Rinpoche&#039;s side. Unfortunately, it will make Ogyen Trinley look strange and left out in the cold. Within the Kagyu school, the Shamarpa is the next highest incarnation after the Karmapa. The Karmapas always recognized Shamarpas and vice versa. It shows that the Karmapa Thaye Dorje has the full authority to recognize the next highest incarnation within their school on his own. &lt;font color=red class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;This Shamarpa will be spiritually trained by the Karmapa Thaye Dorje himself without the influence of the aged Dalai Lama and his government-in-exile which most Karma Kagyus consider a regime. &lt;/font&gt;

(7) During the Kagyu Monlam prayers in Bodhgaya on January 2019, Thaye Dorje was there leading the Monlam (New Year&#039;s prayers) and so was the Dalai Lama in Bodhgaya, giving teachings in another location nearby. The Dalai Lama, while in Bodhgaya, wanted to meet Thaye Dorje but Thaye Dorje refused. Thaye Dorje avoided the Dalai Lama.&lt;font color=red class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt; It was an insult to the Dalai Lama that he had to accept for all the damage he had done in their Karmapa affair and Karma Kagyu school.
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The Dalai Lama had sidelined Shamarpa and Thaye Dorje when asked to endorse Thaye Dorje decades ago. Now that the Karmapa Ogyen Trinley has run away to the USA, the Dalai Lama wants to be friendly with Thaye Dorje so that he can get on the Karma Kagyu school&#039;s good side. Without the Dalai Lama&#039;s permission, the two Karmapas met in France and decided to mend the rift. This will make the Dalai Lama look bad. Even the Dalai Lama did not think in such a big way or a middle way to help mend the rift. Too bad and too late for the Dalai Lama to make friends with the Karma Kagyu school of Buddhism.

So much damage has been done. But the Karmapa Thaye Dorje is on the way to mending all this. 

Karma Tsogyal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="text-decoration:underline" class="bbcode-underline"><strong class="bbcode-strong"><span style="font-size:12pt" class="bbcode-size">Karmapa Thaye Dorje Ignores the Dalai Lama</span></strong></span></p>
<p>(1)<font color=red class="bbcode-color"> Decades ago, the Shamarpa asked the Dalai Lama to endorse Thaye Dorje as the Karmapa. Shamarpa proved to the Dalai Lama that Thaye Dorje was the Karmapa.</font> The Dalai Lama still refused as it will make the Dalai Lama look bad for endorsing Ogyen Trinley. ~ <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJJXYAz3Bz0" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJJXYAz3Bz0</a></p>
<p><font color=red class="bbcode-color">It is known that Tai Situ Rinpoche recognized Ogyen Trinley by stealth.</font> Tai Situ Rinpoche used the Dalai Lama&#8217;s fame to promote his Ogyen Trinley candidate in order to secure the Karmapa wealth of many generations.</p>
<p>(2) Even though the Dalai Lama endorsed Ogyen Trinley as Karmapa, Thaye Dorje could not be restrained and continues to grow immensely in popularity all over the world. <font color=red class="bbcode-color">Even without the Dalai Lama&#8217;s endorsement, the Karmapa Thaye Dorje is growing in importance.</font> Tai Situ Rinpoche thought that without the Dalai Lama&#8217;s endorsement, the Karmapa Thaye Dorje would fall and become nothing. He was wrong. </p>
<p>(3) Shamarpa Rinpoche had asked the Dalai Lama to at least ordain Thaye Dorje as a monk when he was very young and the Dalai Lama refused. This refusal hurt Shamarpa and the Karmapa Thaye Dorje very much. The Dalai Lama sidelined Shamarpa Rinpoche and Thaye Dorje. It was a grievous insult and detrimental interference. In the Karma Kagyu tradition it is the Shamarpa who is the first and foremost to recognize the Karmapas and only in his absence do other regents recognize the Karmapas. Not only did the Dalai Lama interfere in Karma Kagyu affairs but the Dalai Lama took sides. That caused so much fighting and disharmony within the Karma Kagyu school of Buddhism. <font color=red class="bbcode-color">Tai Situ Rinpoche was wrong not to consult with Shamarpa Rinpoche in all of this.</font></p>
<p>(4) The Dalai Lama had no business interfering in Karma Kagyu traditions by recognizing a Karmapa. <font color=red class="bbcode-color">In the history of the Karma Kagyu school, there has not been one Karmapa recognized by a Dalai Lama nor did they ever need the Dalai Lama&#8217;s endorsement.</font> This interference by the Dalai Lama has caused the Karma Kagyu school to take two sides and broke them up and created much disharmony. The disharmony, fighting and mud-slinging as to which one is the real Karmapa has continued to this day in 2019. </p>
<p>(5) Shamarpa Rinpoche passed away in 2014 and it is up to the Karmapa to recognize his incarnation without the endorsement or interference of the Dalai Lama.</p>
<p>(6) <font color=red class="bbcode-color">Now the Karmapa Thaye Dorje recognizes his son born in 2018 as Shamarpa Rinpoche&#8217;s incarnation and he does not ask the Dalai Lama to endorse this incarnation.</font> He does not need it. The Dalai Lama has done enough damage. This will shift the dynamics of the Karma Kagyu school again in favor of the Shamarpa Rinpoche&#8217;s side. Unfortunately, it will make Ogyen Trinley look strange and left out in the cold. Within the Kagyu school, the Shamarpa is the next highest incarnation after the Karmapa. The Karmapas always recognized Shamarpas and vice versa. It shows that the Karmapa Thaye Dorje has the full authority to recognize the next highest incarnation within their school on his own. <font color=red class="bbcode-color">This Shamarpa will be spiritually trained by the Karmapa Thaye Dorje himself without the influence of the aged Dalai Lama and his government-in-exile which most Karma Kagyus consider a regime. </font></p>
<p>(7) During the Kagyu Monlam prayers in Bodhgaya on January 2019, Thaye Dorje was there leading the Monlam (New Year&#8217;s prayers) and so was the Dalai Lama in Bodhgaya, giving teachings in another location nearby. The Dalai Lama, while in Bodhgaya, wanted to meet Thaye Dorje but Thaye Dorje refused. Thaye Dorje avoided the Dalai Lama.<font color=red class="bbcode-color"> It was an insult to the Dalai Lama that he had to accept for all the damage he had done in their Karmapa affair and Karma Kagyu school.<br />
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The Dalai Lama had sidelined Shamarpa and Thaye Dorje when asked to endorse Thaye Dorje decades ago. Now that the Karmapa Ogyen Trinley has run away to the USA, the Dalai Lama wants to be friendly with Thaye Dorje so that he can get on the Karma Kagyu school&#8217;s good side. Without the Dalai Lama&#8217;s permission, the two Karmapas met in France and decided to mend the rift. This will make the Dalai Lama look bad. Even the Dalai Lama did not think in such a big way or a middle way to help mend the rift. Too bad and too late for the Dalai Lama to make friends with the Karma Kagyu school of Buddhism.</p>
<p>So much damage has been done. But the Karmapa Thaye Dorje is on the way to mending all this. </p>
<p>Karma Tsogyal
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		<description>I&#039;ve been operating an online hate group on FB against the NKT. I use to be a part of that organization. I loved my guru Geshe Kelsang, but I didn&#039;t like some of the underlings who ran the organization. &lt;font color=#ff0000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;I was there for over a decade and it was time for me to be given a position of a teacher and have the respect I felt I deserved. &lt;/font&gt;I didn&#039;t get what I wanted and I felt angry and slighted. It reminded me of my abandonment issues I&#039;ve had throughout my life. I&#039;ve never belonged anywhere and people usually left me and I just couldn&#039;t stand it. &lt;font color=#ff0000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;I got my personal emotional issues mixed up with my spiritual direction. &lt;/font&gt; I projected my personal issues onto my teacher and the organization and I have done that so many times in my life ruining good situations. 

&lt;font color=#ff0000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;I left NKT and told whoever would listen to me who I was abused in NKT.&lt;/font&gt; I started a FB page to encourage other &#039;victims&#039; to speak out against NKT. Being the vast organization that NKT is, it was not difficult to find other people who had left for one reason or another and had things to say against NKT. &lt;font color=#ff0000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Our little group even got close to some of the events coordinators of the Dalai Lama and we were given a chance to take pictures with Dalai Lama which we promptly did.&lt;/font&gt; The photo with the Dalai Lama we thought gave us some validation towards our stance against NKT-but it backfired.&lt;font color=#ff0000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt; It gave us a high to have a photo with the Dalai Lama but after a while we realized we can never be close to the Dalai Lama.&lt;/font&gt; We can never get the care and amount of teachings we use to get from Geshe Kelsang Gyatso. Being close to the Dalai Lama is like celebrity worship not so much as having a personal guru who is there for us. 

&lt;font color=#ff0000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;I regret opening my FB page as it vented out my rage and it was the platform for many other people who had blame and anger issues to collect vast amounts of negative karma.&lt;/font&gt; We were never able to have any cases or legal suits against NKT with all of our bantering because there was nothing substantial or genuine in the so called abuses we claimed we received while in NKT. NKT continues to grow while the rest of us who left are nowhere in life. Nowhere in our spiritual practice and just living empty lives. For me I&#039;ve gotten tired of the page I&#039;ve started and FB and it&#039;s a horrendous effort to go there to post things or read any comments. Barely anyone visits the page anyways these days. How much can people vent out their anger at someone or something which is not to blame in the first place?

&lt;font color=#ff0000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;I don&#039;t have the courage to apologize to my teacher or rejoin NKT because I am a coward.&lt;/font&gt; I&#039;ve always been a coward looking for the easy way out. But I am thinking about it. I realize my mistakes. I realized my mistakes which comes from me.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been operating an online hate group on FB against the NKT. I use to be a part of that organization. I loved my guru Geshe Kelsang, but I didn&#8217;t like some of the underlings who ran the organization. <font color=#ff0000 class="bbcode-color">I was there for over a decade and it was time for me to be given a position of a teacher and have the respect I felt I deserved. </font>I didn&#8217;t get what I wanted and I felt angry and slighted. It reminded me of my abandonment issues I&#8217;ve had throughout my life. I&#8217;ve never belonged anywhere and people usually left me and I just couldn&#8217;t stand it. <font color=#ff0000 class="bbcode-color">I got my personal emotional issues mixed up with my spiritual direction. </font> I projected my personal issues onto my teacher and the organization and I have done that so many times in my life ruining good situations. </p>
<p><font color=#ff0000 class="bbcode-color">I left NKT and told whoever would listen to me who I was abused in NKT.</font> I started a FB page to encourage other &#8216;victims&#8217; to speak out against NKT. Being the vast organization that NKT is, it was not difficult to find other people who had left for one reason or another and had things to say against NKT. <font color=#ff0000 class="bbcode-color">Our little group even got close to some of the events coordinators of the Dalai Lama and we were given a chance to take pictures with Dalai Lama which we promptly did.</font> The photo with the Dalai Lama we thought gave us some validation towards our stance against NKT-but it backfired.<font color=#ff0000 class="bbcode-color"> It gave us a high to have a photo with the Dalai Lama but after a while we realized we can never be close to the Dalai Lama.</font> We can never get the care and amount of teachings we use to get from Geshe Kelsang Gyatso. Being close to the Dalai Lama is like celebrity worship not so much as having a personal guru who is there for us. </p>
<p><font color=#ff0000 class="bbcode-color">I regret opening my FB page as it vented out my rage and it was the platform for many other people who had blame and anger issues to collect vast amounts of negative karma.</font> We were never able to have any cases or legal suits against NKT with all of our bantering because there was nothing substantial or genuine in the so called abuses we claimed we received while in NKT. NKT continues to grow while the rest of us who left are nowhere in life. Nowhere in our spiritual practice and just living empty lives. For me I&#8217;ve gotten tired of the page I&#8217;ve started and FB and it&#8217;s a horrendous effort to go there to post things or read any comments. Barely anyone visits the page anyways these days. How much can people vent out their anger at someone or something which is not to blame in the first place?</p>
<p><font color=#ff0000 class="bbcode-color">I don&#8217;t have the courage to apologize to my teacher or rejoin NKT because I am a coward.</font> I&#8217;ve always been a coward looking for the easy way out. But I am thinking about it. I realize my mistakes. I realized my mistakes which comes from me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jampa Youdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jampa Youdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2019 21:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Tibetan government-in-exile (Dharamsala), 

Sharmapa Rinpoche is the highest authority in the Karma Kagyu after Karmapa. By age-old tradition, Sharmapa is the one that confirms the real incarnation of Karmapa. He recognized Thaye Dorje as the genuine Karmapa. But Dalai Lama endorsed Orgyen Trinley as the real Karmapa. Dalai Lama is a great lama but there has never been a tradition of him recognizing a Karmapa. 

Both &#039;Karmapas&#039; have big followings in and out of Tibet. So which one should we follow? We have to follow the genuine Karmapa. If we follow the fake one, we will get fake teachings, fake lineage and no results. We can even take rebirth in the lower realms. 

Only the Tibetan leaders can tell us which is the real Karmapa. You have told us which one is the real Panchen Lama. We follow the Panchen of your choosing. Since then we have condemned China and condemned the fake Panchen Lama. Now it is the same situation with Karmapa. We have denounced the fake Karmapa and ask him to step down. He is destroying the Karma Kagyu Lineage. 

This issue has torn the Karma Kagyu sect in half. There are many who are so confused and some gave up Tibetan Buddhism altogether because of this. We must solve the confusion. This does not look good for the Tibetan government in exile because the confusion was started by Tibetan government. I support Dalai Lama and Tibetan government. But so many of us need to know the real Karmapa already. Don&#039;t remain silent. Which one is the real Karmapa.



Tibetan government in exile, you have created two Gelugs (Pro-Dorje Shugden and against), you have created two Panchen Rinpoches, two Karmapas, two Dromo Geshe Rinpoches, two Kundeling Rinpoches and so on. When are you going to solve all the confusion. You are destroying Tibetan Buddhism.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Tibetan government-in-exile (Dharamsala), </p>
<p>Sharmapa Rinpoche is the highest authority in the Karma Kagyu after Karmapa. By age-old tradition, Sharmapa is the one that confirms the real incarnation of Karmapa. He recognized Thaye Dorje as the genuine Karmapa. But Dalai Lama endorsed Orgyen Trinley as the real Karmapa. Dalai Lama is a great lama but there has never been a tradition of him recognizing a Karmapa. </p>
<p>Both &#8216;Karmapas&#8217; have big followings in and out of Tibet. So which one should we follow? We have to follow the genuine Karmapa. If we follow the fake one, we will get fake teachings, fake lineage and no results. We can even take rebirth in the lower realms. </p>
<p>Only the Tibetan leaders can tell us which is the real Karmapa. You have told us which one is the real Panchen Lama. We follow the Panchen of your choosing. Since then we have condemned China and condemned the fake Panchen Lama. Now it is the same situation with Karmapa. We have denounced the fake Karmapa and ask him to step down. He is destroying the Karma Kagyu Lineage. </p>
<p>This issue has torn the Karma Kagyu sect in half. There are many who are so confused and some gave up Tibetan Buddhism altogether because of this. We must solve the confusion. This does not look good for the Tibetan government in exile because the confusion was started by Tibetan government. I support Dalai Lama and Tibetan government. But so many of us need to know the real Karmapa already. Don&#8217;t remain silent. Which one is the real Karmapa.</p>
<p>Tibetan government in exile, you have created two Gelugs (Pro-Dorje Shugden and against), you have created two Panchen Rinpoches, two Karmapas, two Dromo Geshe Rinpoches, two Kundeling Rinpoches and so on. When are you going to solve all the confusion. You are destroying Tibetan Buddhism.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonam Choephel</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2019 23:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the so-called spiritual head of Tibetan Buddhists, the Dalai Lama strictly abstains from drinking alcohol in accordance to traditional monastic codes. However, it has recently been reported that the religious leader owns his own vineyard in Switzerland! Apparently, various celebrities, including the likes of Roger Moore, Sepp Blatter and Zinedine Zidane have all made trips to the vineyard. What will people say when they find out that a Buddhist monk, who promotes abstinence from alcohol, owns a vineyard that produces wine for sale? This is certainly not going to sit well with his image of a religious leader and member of the Buddhist monastic order.

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		<title>By: Tsering Ngodup</title>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&#039;Karmapa&#039; Ogyen Trinley no longer recognised by Indian govt as 17th Karmapa. Indian government is not happy he did not show respect to India for all the years he took refuge in India. He simply renounced his Indian protectorate papers and took a Dominican republic passport. He could have had the courtesy to let Indian government know beforehand and thank them. 

Read more at:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/67279793.cms?&amp;utm_source=contentofinterest&amp;utm_medium=text&amp;utm_campaign=cppst&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;q&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:1.4em;color:red&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;‘Dorje no longer recognised by Indian govt as 17th Karmapa’&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
Indrani Bagchi &#124; TNN &#124; Dec 28, 2018, 04:00 IST
&lt;b&gt;HIGHLIGHTS&lt;/b&gt;
• &lt;em&gt;Given its apparent disenchantment with the Karmapa, the government is no longer seeing his decision to acquire a Dominican passport as a problem and is willing to give him a visa.&lt;/em&gt;
• &lt;em&gt;This could mean that India will no accord much importance to the status of his identity certificate, the document commonly issued to Tibetan refugees, which also facilitates travel abroad.&lt;/em&gt;
NEW DELHI: The already strained ties between Karmapa Ugyen Trinley Dorje and the Indian government seems to have further deteriorated with the government making it clear that it does not recognise him as the legitimate Buddhist religious leader of the influential karma kagyu sect.
The sharp put down, articulated by well-placed sources, makes the status and future of the Karmapa uncertain in India and seems to indicate that India’s impatience with his long absence from India has turned into a colder indifference to the leader’s claim to his “traditional” seat of the Rumtek monastery.
Given its apparent disenchantment with the Karmapa, the government is no longer seeing his decision to acquire a Dominican passport as a problem and is willing to give him a visa. This could mean that India will not accord much importance to the status of his identity certificate, the document commonly issued to Tibetan refugees, which also facilitates travel abroad.
There are legal and political aspects to the development. Since there are competing claims to the Rumtek monastery that are sub judice, India cannot pronounce on the Karmapa’s claim. However, politically, keeping the Karmapa in its zone of influence and supporting his presence here makes India a “guardian” of a religious leader seen to rank next to the Dalai Lama in importance.
The government’s stand is at odds with the Dalai Lama, who has recognised Dorje as the legitimate Karmapa. In recent years, the Indian government had also shed its suspicions about Karmapa’s escape from China along with his older sister and a few followers. But for more than a year after Karmapa went to the US, he has avoided returning and has in fact complained that he finds restrictions on his travel irksome.
The rival claimant to the post, Thaye Dorje, who had been placed as a Karmapa claimant by Shamar Rimpoche, recently renounced monkhood and got married, diluting his claim since the title calls for celibacy.
The two claimants had riven the Karma Kagyu sect, though according to reports, an attempt was made to bridge the divide with Ugyed Trinley Dorje and Trinley Thaye Dorje meeting at a place on the France-Switzerland border in October.
Ugyen Trinley Dorje’s situation became tenuous after he took a passport from the commonwealth of Dominica in the Caribbean. Sources said Dorje’s acquiring of a foreign passport automatically makes the Tibetan identity certificate (IC) invalid. This means, he would need a visa to enter India.
The Indian government, according to sources, have conveyed to the Karmapa willingness to issue him a visa. “But he has not approached any Indian mission for a visa,” they said.
Indian security agencies have been suspicious of him for years, branding him a Chinese spy, particularly as China so readily recognised him. In 2016, the Modi government however, eased travel restrictions for him and he was allowed to travel overseas.
This throws into confusion not only the future of the Karma Kagyu sect of which Dorje is believed to be the head, but would have implications for India-China and India-Tibet relations in the longer term.
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<p><q><span style="font-size:1.4em;color:red"><b>‘Dorje no longer recognised by Indian govt as 17th Karmapa’</b></span><br />
Indrani Bagchi | TNN | Dec 28, 2018, 04:00 IST<br />
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• <em>Given its apparent disenchantment with the Karmapa, the government is no longer seeing his decision to acquire a Dominican passport as a problem and is willing to give him a visa.</em><br />
• <em>This could mean that India will no accord much importance to the status of his identity certificate, the document commonly issued to Tibetan refugees, which also facilitates travel abroad.</em><br />
NEW DELHI: The already strained ties between Karmapa Ugyen Trinley Dorje and the Indian government seems to have further deteriorated with the government making it clear that it does not recognise him as the legitimate Buddhist religious leader of the influential karma kagyu sect.<br />
The sharp put down, articulated by well-placed sources, makes the status and future of the Karmapa uncertain in India and seems to indicate that India’s impatience with his long absence from India has turned into a colder indifference to the leader’s claim to his “traditional” seat of the Rumtek monastery.<br />
Given its apparent disenchantment with the Karmapa, the government is no longer seeing his decision to acquire a Dominican passport as a problem and is willing to give him a visa. This could mean that India will not accord much importance to the status of his identity certificate, the document commonly issued to Tibetan refugees, which also facilitates travel abroad.<br />
There are legal and political aspects to the development. Since there are competing claims to the Rumtek monastery that are sub judice, India cannot pronounce on the Karmapa’s claim. However, politically, keeping the Karmapa in its zone of influence and supporting his presence here makes India a “guardian” of a religious leader seen to rank next to the Dalai Lama in importance.<br />
The government’s stand is at odds with the Dalai Lama, who has recognised Dorje as the legitimate Karmapa. In recent years, the Indian government had also shed its suspicions about Karmapa’s escape from China along with his older sister and a few followers. But for more than a year after Karmapa went to the US, he has avoided returning and has in fact complained that he finds restrictions on his travel irksome.<br />
The rival claimant to the post, Thaye Dorje, who had been placed as a Karmapa claimant by Shamar Rimpoche, recently renounced monkhood and got married, diluting his claim since the title calls for celibacy.<br />
The two claimants had riven the Karma Kagyu sect, though according to reports, an attempt was made to bridge the divide with Ugyed Trinley Dorje and Trinley Thaye Dorje meeting at a place on the France-Switzerland border in October.<br />
Ugyen Trinley Dorje’s situation became tenuous after he took a passport from the commonwealth of Dominica in the Caribbean. Sources said Dorje’s acquiring of a foreign passport automatically makes the Tibetan identity certificate (IC) invalid. This means, he would need a visa to enter India.<br />
The Indian government, according to sources, have conveyed to the Karmapa willingness to issue him a visa. “But he has not approached any Indian mission for a visa,” they said.<br />
Indian security agencies have been suspicious of him for years, branding him a Chinese spy, particularly as China so readily recognised him. In 2016, the Modi government however, eased travel restrictions for him and he was allowed to travel overseas.<br />
This throws into confusion not only the future of the Karma Kagyu sect of which Dorje is believed to be the head, but would have implications for India-China and India-Tibet relations in the longer term.<br />
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