Comments on: 27 minute speech http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/27-minute-speech/ The Protector whose time has come Thu, 30 Apr 2026 21:50:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: michelle http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/27-minute-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-191997 michelle Tue, 06 May 2014 09:58:28 +0000 http://www.dorjeshugden.com/?p=35417#comment-191997 I am watching this video with a mind of love & what I see is he is projecting his own insecurities about if HE is authentic onto a deity. His starting point was a divination. He talks about lineages of births of Tulkus being broken at the point where the incorrect child is identified. This was his starting point from which all the other reasonings developed it is at 17 min 44 seconds what the 5th dalai lama said about wrong recognition. I know if I was incorrectly recognised myself this text would become very important to me. I believe thats why he became fixated on this text by the 5th dalai lama I am watching this video with a mind of love & what I see is he is projecting his own insecurities about if HE is authentic onto a deity. His starting point was a divination. He talks about lineages of births of Tulkus being broken at the point where the incorrect child is identified. This was his starting point from which all the other reasonings developed it is at 17 min 44 seconds what the 5th dalai lama said about wrong recognition. I know if I was incorrectly recognised myself this text would become very important to me. I believe thats why he became fixated on this text by the 5th dalai lama

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By: The King is naked http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/27-minute-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-86335 The King is naked Sun, 26 Jan 2014 12:43:32 +0000 http://www.dorjeshugden.com/?p=35417#comment-86335 Yes, the Dalai Lama is wrong and the king is naked! Yes, the Dalai Lama is wrong and the king is naked!

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By: sam kee http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/27-minute-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-85971 sam kee Sun, 26 Jan 2014 08:20:25 +0000 http://www.dorjeshugden.com/?p=35417#comment-85971 @two truths Yes, the Dalai Lama did spread Buddhism globally and benefitted many people but he could have done it without slandering his gurus. By doing so he slandered his own lineage, by doing so he started his own lineage, and by doing so he is telling everyone that it is okay to say your gurus are wrong and to do actions that may create harm to your gurus. I thought Buddhism is the Middle Way without extremism, without politics leading to fights and harm. I thought Buddhism teaches tolerance, compassion, giving, loving kindness, forgiving, patience, gratitude and so on. What the Dalai Lama is doing with the ban on Dorje Shugden is going against all these. Then, is the Dalai Lama wrong? Yes, the Dalai Lama is wrong. @two truths

Yes, the Dalai Lama did spread Buddhism globally and benefitted many people but he could have done it without slandering his gurus. By doing so he slandered his own lineage, by doing so he started his own lineage, and by doing so he is telling everyone that it is okay to say your gurus are wrong and to do actions that may create harm to your gurus.

I thought Buddhism is the Middle Way without extremism, without politics leading to fights and harm. I thought Buddhism teaches tolerance, compassion, giving, loving kindness, forgiving, patience, gratitude and so on. What the Dalai Lama is doing with the ban on Dorje Shugden is going against all these.

Then, is the Dalai Lama wrong? Yes, the Dalai Lama is wrong.

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By: Nicki http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/27-minute-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-79506 Nicki Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:39:02 +0000 http://www.dorjeshugden.com/?p=35417#comment-79506 CTA made Gaden Shartse Abot and senior sanghas who conspired in the publishing of the anti-Shugden dharma text absolute fools. Gaden Shartse Abot prefers to remain politically correct and be CTA's puppet by manipulating and twisting a true authentic history and lineage of Dorje Shugden. This is an acute attack on his scholarly logic which Gaden Monastery is world renown. What a shame Gaden Monastery is down-graded through his act and leadership. This is certainly the first ever happening in the history of Gaden. CTA made Gaden Shartse Abot and senior sanghas who conspired in the publishing of the anti-Shugden dharma text absolute fools. Gaden Shartse Abot prefers to remain politically correct and be CTA’s puppet by manipulating and twisting a true authentic history and lineage of Dorje Shugden. This is an acute attack on his scholarly logic which Gaden Monastery is world renown. What a shame Gaden Monastery is down-graded through his act and leadership. This is certainly the first ever happening in the history of Gaden.

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By: Solomon Lang http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/27-minute-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-75214 Solomon Lang Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:46:45 +0000 http://www.dorjeshugden.com/?p=35417#comment-75214 This is interesting, HH the Dalai Lama will be giving the following public talk soon: Public Talk in Los Angeles, California, USA on February 25: His Holiness will give a public talk on Non-Violence and the Effects of Compassion in the 21st Century in the afternoon at Staples Center organized by The Lourdes Foundation. This is interesting, HH the Dalai Lama will be giving the following public talk soon:

Public Talk in Los Angeles, California, USA on February 25: His Holiness will give a public talk on Non-Violence and the Effects of Compassion in the 21st Century in the afternoon at Staples Center organized by The Lourdes Foundation.

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By: bimbisara http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/27-minute-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-74349 bimbisara Mon, 20 Jan 2014 23:13:17 +0000 http://www.dorjeshugden.com/?p=35417#comment-74349 I agree with library. Buddhas are very skilled in helping people. They would never cause the suffering that the Dalai lama has brought to spread Buddhism becouse the ban couse people to doubt about Buddhism it destroys Buddhist reputation. Buddhas would never act like this. They are far more skilled. They do not need to cause suffering to bring benefit. Even if the Dalai lama had this motivation for the ban I do not think so he would be showing that is just an ordinary being with no wisdom. I agree with library. Buddhas are very skilled in helping people. They would never cause the suffering that the Dalai lama has brought to spread Buddhism becouse the ban couse people to doubt about Buddhism it destroys Buddhist reputation. Buddhas would never act like this. They are far more skilled. They do not need to cause suffering to bring benefit. Even if the Dalai lama had this motivation for the ban I do not think so he would be showing that is just an ordinary being with no wisdom.

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By: Shugden Library http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/27-minute-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-71675 Shugden Library Sun, 19 Jan 2014 18:11:09 +0000 http://www.dorjeshugden.com/?p=35417#comment-71675 In answer to "two truths". I would say, that in the long term, certainly Dorje Shugden is more beneficial. By the Dalai Lama's actions he has done nothing to promote the pure teachings of Buddha, indeed he has publicly stated that Buddha was wrong, and now promotes science ahead of Dharma (Buddha's teachings). By his actions the Gelug tradition is in disarray, the Kagyu are divided, and he promotes Bon, an ancient tradition of black magic and occult doctrine. Dorje Shugden is a Buddha, the wrathful aspect of Buddha Manjushri, the Dalai Lama is only a man deluded by a lust for power. In answer to “two truths”. I would say, that in the long term, certainly Dorje Shugden is more beneficial. By the Dalai Lama’s actions he has done nothing to promote the pure teachings of Buddha, indeed he has publicly stated that Buddha was wrong, and now promotes science ahead of Dharma (Buddha’s teachings). By his actions the Gelug tradition is in disarray, the Kagyu are divided, and he promotes Bon, an ancient tradition of black magic and occult doctrine.
Dorje Shugden is a Buddha, the wrathful aspect of Buddha Manjushri, the Dalai Lama is only a man deluded by a lust for power.

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By: rossoneri http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/27-minute-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-70910 rossoneri Sun, 19 Jan 2014 09:38:56 +0000 http://www.dorjeshugden.com/?p=35417#comment-70910 One of the part i find it very amazing is that if you notice the Nobel Prize winner said he only brief saw the Table of Contents of this book as a Nobel Prize winner or as a normal Nobel Prize winner would you simply launched or endorsed a book without even know the details of a book? I won't do that... One of the part i find it very amazing is that if you notice the Nobel Prize winner said he only brief saw the Table of Contents of this book as a Nobel Prize winner or as a normal Nobel Prize winner would you simply launched or endorsed a book without even know the details of a book? I won’t do that…

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By: two truths http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/27-minute-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-70847 two truths Sun, 19 Jan 2014 09:02:44 +0000 http://www.dorjeshugden.com/?p=35417#comment-70847 In the world today, who benefits more? HH Dalai Lama or Dorje Shugden? Who has more impact with the general population? Who has the greater ability to spread the Dharma? You can say Dorje Shugden benefits in mystical ways as a Dharma Protector, but who really has the power to plant the seed of Dharma in people? And what does Dorje Shugden protect? The Gelug lineage? More people have heard of Tibetan Buddhism, the Gelug lineage, Trijang Rinpoche, Pabongkha Rinpoche and even Dorje Shugden himself through the HH Dalai Lama. You all may be against HH Dalai Lama, but don't forget he is the actual person that people can see and hear who helped establish Tibetan Buddhism in exile and throughout the world. It would be best if you all remembered his kindness. In the world today, who benefits more? HH Dalai Lama or Dorje Shugden? Who has more impact with the general population? Who has the greater ability to spread the Dharma?

You can say Dorje Shugden benefits in mystical ways as a Dharma Protector, but who really has the power to plant the seed of Dharma in people?

And what does Dorje Shugden protect? The Gelug lineage? More people have heard of Tibetan Buddhism, the Gelug lineage, Trijang Rinpoche, Pabongkha Rinpoche and even Dorje Shugden himself through the HH Dalai Lama.

You all may be against HH Dalai Lama, but don’t forget he is the actual person that people can see and hear who helped establish Tibetan Buddhism in exile and throughout the world. It would be best if you all remembered his kindness.

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By: Icy http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/27-minute-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-66358 Icy Thu, 16 Jan 2014 09:49:21 +0000 http://www.dorjeshugden.com/?p=35417#comment-66358 The dirty deed in its illogic attempt of rewriting an authentic lineage absolutely did not garner much support from the monks and the assembly. Hence, the rewritten garbage ended up as rubbish littering the compound at the end of the talk. This strongly indicates the sentiments of the assembly of sanghas. They are unreluctantly dominated by a strong dictatorship to become anti-Shugden by no choice of their own. As it is apparent, most of the sanghas are undercover Shugden practitioners. Externally they have to put up with an appearance of supporting the ban but internally they are quietly practising Shugden. The Dalai Lama and the CTA are certainly fooled by external appearance! What a waste of money and time invested in this dirty deed. The dirty deed in its illogic attempt of rewriting an authentic lineage absolutely did not garner much support from the monks and the assembly. Hence, the rewritten garbage ended up as rubbish littering the compound at the end of the talk. This strongly indicates the sentiments of the assembly of sanghas. They are unreluctantly dominated by a strong dictatorship to become anti-Shugden by no choice of their own. As it is apparent, most of the sanghas are undercover Shugden practitioners. Externally they have to put up with an appearance of supporting the ban but internally they are quietly practising Shugden. The Dalai Lama and the CTA are certainly fooled by external appearance! What a waste of money and time invested in this dirty deed.

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