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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2025 22:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: David Dough</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Dough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2025 22:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To verify the sexual allegations against the 17th Karmapa Ogyen Trinley Dorje, here is the link to the court document. https://www.bccourts.ca/jdb-txt/sc/21/0 ... 39cor1.htm.

Please pay attention to the background part in the very beginning that reads outright evident:

&quot;BACKGROUND

[6] It should be emphasized that this is an application to amend pleadings only. The allegations by the claimant are presumed to be true for the purposes of this application. Those allegations have not been tested in a court of law.&quot;

Evidently, any negative / sexual allegations againt the 17th Karmapa are NOT facts.

Please readers, for the sake of preserving the integrity of the precious Buddha Dharma, refrain from denigrating any gurus irresponsibly.

If you think the Karmapa does not benefit you personally, just walk away, don&#039;t propagate hate based on fabricated lies. Buddhism emphasizes self cultivation not hearsay propagation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To verify the sexual allegations against the 17th Karmapa Ogyen Trinley Dorje, here is the link to the court document. <a target="_blank" href="https://www.bccourts.ca/jdb-txt/sc/21/0" rel="nofollow">https://www.bccourts.ca/jdb-txt/sc/21/0</a> &#8230; 39cor1.htm.</p>
<p>Please pay attention to the background part in the very beginning that reads outright evident:</p>
<p>&#8220;BACKGROUND</p>
<p>[6] It should be emphasized that this is an application to amend pleadings only. The allegations by the claimant are presumed to be true for the purposes of this application. Those allegations have not been tested in a court of law.&#8221;</p>
<p>Evidently, any negative / sexual allegations againt the 17th Karmapa are NOT facts.</p>
<p>Please readers, for the sake of preserving the integrity of the precious Buddha Dharma, refrain from denigrating any gurus irresponsibly.</p>
<p>If you think the Karmapa does not benefit you personally, just walk away, don&#8217;t propagate hate based on fabricated lies. Buddhism emphasizes self cultivation not hearsay propagation.</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
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		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2019 01:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After so long, there is no more news on the scandal. It is highly possible that the girl was paid to ruin the Karmapa&#039;s reputation. Who would do that? Most likely it was the CTA. The CTA was very upset that the Karmapa ran away from them. They have spent so much time and effort grooming the Karmapa to be the successor of the Dalai Lama but clearly, the Karmapa did not &#039;appreciate&#039; it. Without another famous lama at the front line, it will be more difficult for the CTA to get more money from the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After so long, there is no more news on the scandal. It is highly possible that the girl was paid to ruin the Karmapa&#8217;s reputation. Who would do that? Most likely it was the CTA. The CTA was very upset that the Karmapa ran away from them. They have spent so much time and effort grooming the Karmapa to be the successor of the Dalai Lama but clearly, the Karmapa did not &#8216;appreciate&#8217; it. Without another famous lama at the front line, it will be more difficult for the CTA to get more money from the public.</p>
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		<title>By: Drolma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drolma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2019 09:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sex scandal is most likely a fake one because until today, there is no more news about it. Only Taiwanese media reported this new, no other international media shared this news. What some people said make sense also. Karmapa was under the surveillance of CTA and Indian government 24/7, it will not be easy for him to have and maintain a relationship with several women.

I think it must be a set up by the CTA. They are angry with the Karmapa because he ran away and disobey them. Now the CTA does not have a successor to the Dalai Lama anymore, when the Dalai Lama passes away, they will be having problem. When people support the Tibetans, it is not because they support the CTA but because of the Dalai Lama.

All of us know the CTA always uses Buddhism and high lamas to get support especially financial support from their sponsor. They sell Dharma and Buddhist masters like they are a merchandise. Look at how the CTA and people around the Dalai Lama hooked him up with a sex cult leader? The Tibetan leadership only care for themselves, never for their people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sex scandal is most likely a fake one because until today, there is no more news about it. Only Taiwanese media reported this new, no other international media shared this news. What some people said make sense also. Karmapa was under the surveillance of CTA and Indian government 24/7, it will not be easy for him to have and maintain a relationship with several women.</p>
<p>I think it must be a set up by the CTA. They are angry with the Karmapa because he ran away and disobey them. Now the CTA does not have a successor to the Dalai Lama anymore, when the Dalai Lama passes away, they will be having problem. When people support the Tibetans, it is not because they support the CTA but because of the Dalai Lama.</p>
<p>All of us know the CTA always uses Buddhism and high lamas to get support especially financial support from their sponsor. They sell Dharma and Buddhist masters like they are a merchandise. Look at how the CTA and people around the Dalai Lama hooked him up with a sex cult leader? The Tibetan leadership only care for themselves, never for their people.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelsang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelsang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2019 14:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karmapa Ogyen Trinley made the right choice for leaving the CTA. He was being recognized by the CTA many years ago and he has been controlled by the CTA to do their biddings since then. When he successfully escaped overseas, he released a video and talked about his difficulties with the CTA. He did not have any freedom and was constantly under the surveillance of CTA. He also did not receive good education which traditionally provided for the Karmapas to groom then into capable dharma leaders. 

Now that Karmapa Ogyen Trinley ran away, CTA is just like ants on fire and they are frantically looking for a high lama to replace him so that they will have some sort of control over the Tibetans when His Holiness the Dalai Lama passes into the clear light. 

CTA always think about themselves and they will only do things that will benefit themselves. Hence, CTA will only cover their own ass when His Holiness the Dalai Lama passes into the clear light. Tibetans should be cleaver and not put their hope on CTA and create their future in their own hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karmapa Ogyen Trinley made the right choice for leaving the CTA. He was being recognized by the CTA many years ago and he has been controlled by the CTA to do their biddings since then. When he successfully escaped overseas, he released a video and talked about his difficulties with the CTA. He did not have any freedom and was constantly under the surveillance of CTA. He also did not receive good education which traditionally provided for the Karmapas to groom then into capable dharma leaders. </p>
<p>Now that Karmapa Ogyen Trinley ran away, CTA is just like ants on fire and they are frantically looking for a high lama to replace him so that they will have some sort of control over the Tibetans when His Holiness the Dalai Lama passes into the clear light. </p>
<p>CTA always think about themselves and they will only do things that will benefit themselves. Hence, CTA will only cover their own ass when His Holiness the Dalai Lama passes into the clear light. Tibetans should be cleaver and not put their hope on CTA and create their future in their own hands.</p>
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		<title>By: JHT</title>
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		<dc:creator>JHT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2019 03:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what is happening to Karmapa Orgyen Trinley recently? He seems to be very quiet, the last update on his official website is Jan this year. Is he going back to India? Is he going to say anything regarding fake Karmapa and the sex scandal? There are so many problems need to be resolved just within the Karma Kagyu. If CTA remains quiet, I hope something can be resolved between the two Karmapas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what is happening to Karmapa Orgyen Trinley recently? He seems to be very quiet, the last update on his official website is Jan this year. Is he going back to India? Is he going to say anything regarding fake Karmapa and the sex scandal? There are so many problems need to be resolved just within the Karma Kagyu. If CTA remains quiet, I hope something can be resolved between the two Karmapas.</p>
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		<title>By: Ngawang Jigme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ngawang Jigme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 May 2019 17:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Unlike 5 years ago, Tibetan leader Lobsang Sangay is not invited to Prime Minister Modi&#039;s swearing-in ceremony this time. It is clear that PM Modi of India snubs the Tibetan leadership once again in favour of deeper ties with China. The Tibetan leadership finds itself increasingly isolated as nobody wants to offend China by lending any support to the ungrateful Tibetans. &lt;/b&gt;

&lt;q&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:1.4em;color:red&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;PM Modi snubs Tibetan leadership for swearing-in ceremony&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
By Tenzin Dharpo
May. 30, 2019
DHARAMSHALA, May 30: The Indian Prime Minister who is fresh off of a massive win in the Indian Lok Sabha elections has done a U-turn by not inviting exile Tibetan government’s President to the swearing in ceremony due to be held later today, in a bid to not anger Beijing.
The President of the exile Tibetan government, known officially as the Central Tibetan Administration, Dr. Lobsang Sangay’s absence today at the Rashtrapati Bhavan in New Delhi marks a stark contrast to 2014 when the elected Tibetan leader was seated in the former rows at the ceremony when PM Modi was sworn into office the first time around. 
The invitation to Dr. Sangay in May 2014 drew strong objection from the Chinese government who lodged an official protest censuring New Delhi’s disregard for the so-called ‘One-China policy’. Many said at the time that the invite was posturing at most, of Modi’s intent to India’s neighbor and biggest rivals both in Asia and global arenas. 
The New Delhi-Beijing relations post the Doklam stand off and Wuhan summit has meant that India has given a cold shoulder to the exile Tibetan set up, thereby taking a step back in using the much-touted ‘Tibet card’. The shift in policy has markedly been seen on the ground with New Delhi issuing an advisory to senior leaders to avoid His Holiness the Dalai Lama or pushing the CTA to shift the “thank you India” ceremony from New Delhi to Dharamshala last year.
The head of the Tibetan polity who extended pleasantries to PM Modi on his win, however may have anticipated the snub. Days after Modi’s historic election win, Sangay flew to the United States and is scheduled to return on June 5 to India next week.
http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=41474&amp;article=PM+Modi+snubs+Tibetan+leadership+for+swearing-in+ceremony&lt;/q&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Unlike 5 years ago, Tibetan leader Lobsang Sangay is not invited to Prime Minister Modi&#8217;s swearing-in ceremony this time. It is clear that PM Modi of India snubs the Tibetan leadership once again in favour of deeper ties with China. The Tibetan leadership finds itself increasingly isolated as nobody wants to offend China by lending any support to the ungrateful Tibetans. </b></p>
<p><q><span style="font-size:1.4em;color:red"><b>PM Modi snubs Tibetan leadership for swearing-in ceremony</b></span><br />
By Tenzin Dharpo<br />
May. 30, 2019<br />
DHARAMSHALA, May 30: The Indian Prime Minister who is fresh off of a massive win in the Indian Lok Sabha elections has done a U-turn by not inviting exile Tibetan government’s President to the swearing in ceremony due to be held later today, in a bid to not anger Beijing.<br />
The President of the exile Tibetan government, known officially as the Central Tibetan Administration, Dr. Lobsang Sangay’s absence today at the Rashtrapati Bhavan in New Delhi marks a stark contrast to 2014 when the elected Tibetan leader was seated in the former rows at the ceremony when PM Modi was sworn into office the first time around.<br />
The invitation to Dr. Sangay in May 2014 drew strong objection from the Chinese government who lodged an official protest censuring New Delhi’s disregard for the so-called ‘One-China policy’. Many said at the time that the invite was posturing at most, of Modi’s intent to India’s neighbor and biggest rivals both in Asia and global arenas.<br />
The New Delhi-Beijing relations post the Doklam stand off and Wuhan summit has meant that India has given a cold shoulder to the exile Tibetan set up, thereby taking a step back in using the much-touted ‘Tibet card’. The shift in policy has markedly been seen on the ground with New Delhi issuing an advisory to senior leaders to avoid His Holiness the Dalai Lama or pushing the CTA to shift the “thank you India” ceremony from New Delhi to Dharamshala last year.<br />
The head of the Tibetan polity who extended pleasantries to PM Modi on his win, however may have anticipated the snub. Days after Modi’s historic election win, Sangay flew to the United States and is scheduled to return on June 5 to India next week.<br />
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		<title>By: Mountains</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2019 06:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;font color=orange class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;1st Time Dalai Lama Finally Admits His Illness Was Serious&lt;/font&gt;

&lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;In the past it is customary to cover up the Dalai Lama&#039;s illnesses. It could be to not worry his flock. It could also be to not show the world he is just another vulnerable human being. &lt;font color=blue class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Or it could be he does not want to disappoint people to show he is not a god?&lt;/font&gt; Whatever the reasons, the Dalai Lama and regime are well known for covering up his serious illnesses. In the past few years he had cancer of the prostate and that was covered up till the press dug it up. Now with this new video just out April 2019, Dalai Lama admits he was recently very ill. It was serious. &lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;Unfortunately the Tibetan cause will die with the Dalai Lama when he passes. He did nothing to groom up a new leader as he is a dictator. A ruler for life. &lt;font color=blue class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;He has been in power for over 60 years. He will never groom up another person to replace him because he is touted as a god.&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font color=orange class="bbcode-color">1st Time Dalai Lama Finally Admits His Illness Was Serious</font></p>
<p><strong class="bbcode-strong">In the past it is customary to cover up the Dalai Lama&#8217;s illnesses. It could be to not worry his flock. It could also be to not show the world he is just another vulnerable human being. <font color=blue class="bbcode-color">Or it could be he does not want to disappoint people to show he is not a god?</font> Whatever the reasons, the Dalai Lama and regime are well known for covering up his serious illnesses. In the past few years he had cancer of the prostate and that was covered up till the press dug it up. Now with this new video just out April 2019, Dalai Lama admits he was recently very ill. It was serious. </strong></p>
<p><strong class="bbcode-strong">Unfortunately the Tibetan cause will die with the Dalai Lama when he passes. He did nothing to groom up a new leader as he is a dictator. A ruler for life. <font color=blue class="bbcode-color">He has been in power for over 60 years. He will never groom up another person to replace him because he is touted as a god.</font> </strong></p>
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		<title>By: Drolma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drolma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2019 01:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The CTA is not interested in preserving Buddhism or any lineage, of course they will not protect Kagyu lineage. Look at how they have caused the Gelug lineage to break into two fractions. They care more about the money than anything else. 

The CTA is actually using Buddhism to make money. They promote themselves as the protector of ancient Buddhist culture but they have not done much towards the preservation of Buddhism. All they do is they &#039;export&#039; the monks to perform Buddhist chanting on the stage and make sand Mandalas to entertain people. They don&#039;t allocate much budget to help the Tibetan Buddhist monasteries in India and Nepal. Nobody knows how exactly they spend the money given by the sponsors. 

If the CTA can gain something from the 2 Karmapas issue or the sex scandals, they sure will get involved without anyone asking for their help. But since the these issues don&#039;t bring benefit to them and it will give them more work, they would rather keep quiet. This is how the CTA destroys their precious culture and Buddhism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CTA is not interested in preserving Buddhism or any lineage, of course they will not protect Kagyu lineage. Look at how they have caused the Gelug lineage to break into two fractions. They care more about the money than anything else. </p>
<p>The CTA is actually using Buddhism to make money. They promote themselves as the protector of ancient Buddhist culture but they have not done much towards the preservation of Buddhism. All they do is they &#8216;export&#8217; the monks to perform Buddhist chanting on the stage and make sand Mandalas to entertain people. They don&#8217;t allocate much budget to help the Tibetan Buddhist monasteries in India and Nepal. Nobody knows how exactly they spend the money given by the sponsors. </p>
<p>If the CTA can gain something from the 2 Karmapas issue or the sex scandals, they sure will get involved without anyone asking for their help. But since the these issues don&#8217;t bring benefit to them and it will give them more work, they would rather keep quiet. This is how the CTA destroys their precious culture and Buddhism.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2019 22:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard that recently Karmapa Ogyen Trinley is thinking about going back to India. &lt;font color=#ff0000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;He should not go back to India because he is going back to a trap. &lt;/font&gt;CTA has not been treating him well for the past two decades, and they will not treat him any better if he returns to their side. &lt;font color=#ff0000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;He is lucky to be able to escape from their clutches one year ago, and he should not repeat the same mistake.&lt;/font&gt;

CTA is dying to get him on their side and use him to manipulate the poor ignorant Tibetans who blindly follow whatever their government says. &lt;font color=#ff0000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;CTA needs a high lama to use as a puppet to exert the control onto their people. &lt;/font&gt;Since His Holiness the Dalai Lama is getting old, and he can pass away anytime, CTA needs to have someone on standby to take over. 

The Karmapa will be the best choice and CTA will surely jump on him on any opportunities they have. They have tried to snatch Karmapa Thaye Dorje onto their side, but fortunately, Karmapa Thaye Dorje is smart enough to avoid them. No one ever gets better when CTA is associated with them. &lt;font color=#ff0000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;They are like a curse to whoever that joins them on their sinking boat. &lt;/font&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard that recently Karmapa Ogyen Trinley is thinking about going back to India. <font color=#ff0000 class="bbcode-color">He should not go back to India because he is going back to a trap. </font>CTA has not been treating him well for the past two decades, and they will not treat him any better if he returns to their side. <font color=#ff0000 class="bbcode-color">He is lucky to be able to escape from their clutches one year ago, and he should not repeat the same mistake.</font></p>
<p>CTA is dying to get him on their side and use him to manipulate the poor ignorant Tibetans who blindly follow whatever their government says. <font color=#ff0000 class="bbcode-color">CTA needs a high lama to use as a puppet to exert the control onto their people. </font>Since His Holiness the Dalai Lama is getting old, and he can pass away anytime, CTA needs to have someone on standby to take over. </p>
<p>The Karmapa will be the best choice and CTA will surely jump on him on any opportunities they have. They have tried to snatch Karmapa Thaye Dorje onto their side, but fortunately, Karmapa Thaye Dorje is smart enough to avoid them. No one ever gets better when CTA is associated with them. <font color=#ff0000 class="bbcode-color">They are like a curse to whoever that joins them on their sinking boat. </font></p>
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