Comments on: True Spiritual Leadership: Karmapa vs Dalai Lama

By: Suhaila

Suhaila — Sun, 03 Jul 2016 12:57:20 +0000

The title of the article has drawn my attention to read this article. Yes, it is very true that a spiritual leader’s role is to dispense advise and to teach by example. Rejoice to the 17th Karmapa Trinley Thaye Dorje for the wisdom words and advises.

May Dalai Lama’s followers have merit to read this article, may Dorje Shugden’s ban be lifted to restore the harmony between buddhist practitioners from different schools. Buddha’s teaching is to liberate all sentient being from sufferings and are not to create more sufferings.

By: Manjushri

Manjushri — Mon, 08 Sep 2014 05:57:13 +0000

It has always baffled me, and still does as to why His Holiness Dalai Lama has continued to remain silent for the Dorje Shugden practitioners who are suffering silently. With one simple statement “stop discriminating Dorje Shugden practitioners. Let them have free hand to attend my teachings, to access medical care, etc, just like non shugden practitioners. Stop the violence towards shugdenpas”, he can do so much. But why hasnt he. Why can he interfere with other buddhist sects, why can he express his concerns to sri lankan buddhists but not people under his own spiritual leadership? If there is so much contradiction and hypocrisy in action, then why advice other people when he himself is not doing anything to help his own people?

Maybe His Holiness should get some tips from the Karmapa

By: Chrissasim

Chrissasim — Sun, 07 Sep 2014 17:38:12 +0000

Wise words of wisdom from the incredible 17th Karmapa Trinley Thaye Dorje .A true compassionate and wise spiritual leader that guides his people by stating and advising them on the unnecessary karma that could lead them to harm if they do not guard their thoughts,words and actions.A great leader who does as he preaches.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 07 Sep 2014 09:48:26 +0000

As I was reading the first half of this article, the very thought: why did the Dalai Lama not give similar advise to prevent the “thoughts, words and actions that can lead to harm and unnecessary karma”? It is very true how leaders can determine the fate of their followers, therefore, it is of utmost importance to have the right leader.

I rejoice that, despite his young age, the 17th Karmapa displayed wisdom and compassion that protected his people. Eventually, the final rites and rituals were conducted in Nepal peacefully, i.e. ultimately, when we practice the Dharma, the outcome would be one that is beneficial and “right”.

On the contrary, I am disappointed in the Dalai Lama for not having taken action over the many years and many occasions of opportunity to prevent and correct the harm of the Dorje Shugden ban. The continued action of body, speech and mind that contradict the Dharma caused the outcome of harm and suffering.

Anyway, I hope that the example displayed by the 17th Karmapa would be a beacon of example for the Dalai Lama and his people.

By: samayakeeper

samayakeeper — Mon, 01 Sep 2014 07:58:10 +0000

The words offered to his students by H.H. the 17th Karmapa Trinley Thaye Dorje are words of wisdom and are dharma. Dialogues are the best means to settle disputes. But in the case of Dorje Shugden, no dialogues were offered by the Dalai Lama or his representatives in the CTA. Instead suffering and hardship were meted out to the people who remained steadfast in their Dorje Shugden practice. The Dalai Lama and the CTA should learn and use this example.

By: Frisk

Frisk — Sun, 31 Aug 2014 15:58:44 +0000

Why would we want to follow a spiritual leader who does hypocrisy and allow injustice actions to be happened among the fellow Tibetan community? What’s the definition of spiritual leader? Seriously, I’m confused. I’m puzzled. I’m not convinced
by the idea of Westeners crowning HHDL as the spiritual leader of the Buddhism world? The attacks, condemnation, unlawful occupation, blacklist, the physical and mental threatenings to the innocent shugdenpas. Where is the harmony and peace?

A true spiritual leader like H.H. the 17th Gyalwa Karmapa Trinley Thaye Dorje surely is well respected by all devotees. He embodies Buddha’s wisdom, compassion and tenacity and teach by example. Thank you dorjeshugden.com for highlighting this.

By: bond

bond — Thu, 28 Aug 2014 14:13:06 +0000

This article has highlighted the true spirituality & leadership of a spiritual leader. By warning & advising his followers & those of the Shamarpa from creating unnecessary harm or karma from any actions of body, speech & mind, His Holiness the 17th Gyalwa Karmapa has shown great wisdom & compassion which further exemplified one of the many responsibilities of a true spiritual leader which is to care, love & look after the welfare of those under their guidance.

True spirituality is to instilled peace, kindness to one & others, it should not be biased & to abandon all violence acts. His Holiness the 17th Gyalwa Karmapa certainly have all those qualities.

I rejoice for H.H. the 17th Gyalwa Karmapa Trinley Thaye Dorje & hope that the pro Dalai lama people are reading this & reflect on the disharmony, discrimination & harms they have caused to their fellow Tibetan community which are not doing any good at all to their so call Tibetan cause.

By: Venerable Lady

Venerable Lady — Mon, 25 Aug 2014 12:32:21 +0000

How wonderful to hear the words of the genuine17th Karmapa who actually gives Dharma advice to his devoted followers.I rejoice deeply in this.

By: BlueUpali

BlueUpali — Sun, 24 Aug 2014 16:54:28 +0000

I deeply rever the Karmapa (Thaye Dorje) and rejoice in his helping all living beings. Shamar Rinpoche himself displayed many rainbows at his cremation ceremony, to remind his students that he will be back to rescue beings from samsara. The Dalai Lama does not need to get involved in other schools recognition process.

By: Eli

Eli — Sun, 24 Aug 2014 15:17:28 +0000

Rejoice in the 17th Karmapa stance in protecting his people, in corporate terms we call it taking ownership. Looking forward to hear more great things about this Karmapa.

Despite opposition to him ascending the Karmapa throne, due to intervention from the CTA and the Dalai Lama he is composed and he is doing what he has to do. it is unheard of for the Dalai Lama to be in the process of recognizing the 17th Karmapa.

Shamar Rinpoche always had the privilege to recognise the Karmapa and vice versa. So there is no good or valid reason for CTA and Dalai Lama to recognise the 17th karmapa that was identified by Tai Situ Rinpoche.