Comments on: Possession by Dorje Shugden – The Oracle: Reflections on Self http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/possession-by-dorje-shugden-the-oracle-reflections-on-self/ The Protector whose time has come Mon, 02 Mar 2026 18:35:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Harold http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/possession-by-dorje-shugden-the-oracle-reflections-on-self/comment-page-1/#comment-204245 Harold Sat, 19 Mar 2016 15:29:57 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=12322#comment-204245 Why was Dorje Shugden even in this video? This was to be a video about Oracles not anti Dorje Shugden. They made no mention about a Dorje Shugden Oracle just a piece of pro Dalai Lama and anti Shugden propaganda. David Cherniak showed to me that he is just another simple minded tool for the Dalai Lama. He can not in my opinion justify having the Dorje Shugden piece in this video about Tibetan Oracles. Why was Dorje Shugden even in this video? This was to be a video about Oracles not anti Dorje Shugden. They made no mention about a Dorje Shugden Oracle just a piece of pro Dalai Lama and anti Shugden propaganda. David Cherniak showed to me that he is just another simple minded tool for the Dalai Lama. He can not in my opinion justify having the Dorje Shugden piece in this video about Tibetan Oracles.

]]> By: Rinchen http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/possession-by-dorje-shugden-the-oracle-reflections-on-self/comment-page-1/#comment-50909 Rinchen Wed, 07 Aug 2013 08:40:46 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=12322#comment-50909 In my opinion, the entity that has possessed David Cherniak is definitely not Dorje Shugden. Although it might be an entity or spirit that pose him/herself as Dorje Shugden to gain the trust or wanted to make us of David Cherniak and his team. I do not believe that one can just "call" for Dorje Shugden as and when they like. Dorje Shuden is an enlightened being, how would he be taking trance in someone who's body is not pure? Although it is said that the being that possessed David Cherniak is a being that was wrathful, but worldly spirits can be wrathful when they take possession of a person. Although David Cherniak might have experienced different strong feelings during and after the trance, but I believe if that worldly spirit has resided for a long period in their realm, they would possess some supernatural powers as well. In my opinion, the entity that has possessed David Cherniak is definitely not Dorje Shugden. Although it might be an entity or spirit that pose him/herself as Dorje Shugden to gain the trust or wanted to make us of David Cherniak and his team.

I do not believe that one can just “call” for Dorje Shugden as and when they like. Dorje Shuden is an enlightened being, how would he be taking trance in someone who’s body is not pure? Although it is said that the being that possessed David Cherniak is a being that was wrathful, but worldly spirits can be wrathful when they take possession of a person. Although David Cherniak might have experienced different strong feelings during and after the trance, but I believe if that worldly spirit has resided for a long period in their realm, they would possess some supernatural powers as well.

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