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		<title>By: Dalai Lama should set things right</title>
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		<description>Dear Dalai Lama,

Since you started the cruel ban against the 350 year Dorje Shugden practice, how has it benefit your Tibetan society and Buddhism in the world? &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Things have become worse and most educated Tibetans can see this.&lt;/font&gt; They don&#039;t speak out not because they don&#039;t see your ban as wrong, but you instill fear in them and not respect. It is like fear of a dictator. I am sorry to say so. Everyone is divided. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;There is no harmony.&lt;/font&gt; Before your ban there was more harmony and unity.

By enacting the ban, you split the monasteries, split so many families, split regions in Tibet apart, split your disciples from you, split your own gurus from you, split Tibetan Buddhism apart. You have created so much disharmony.

It is not democratic what you have done to ban a religion within your community. You always talk of tolerance and acceptance and democracy and yet you do not accept and tolerate something different from your beliefs. When people practice Dorje Shugden you ostracize them, ban them from seeing you, ban them from using Tibetan facilities. You know you have done that. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;There are videos that capture your speech and prove this point.&lt;/font&gt; You even had people expelled from monasteries just because they practice Dorje Shugden. Some of the monks you expelled have been in the monastery for over 40 years. Many older monks shed tears because of this.

Many young educated Tibetans lost confidence in you as they saw the damage the Dorje Shugden ban created and they lose hope. Many have become free thinkers. They reject what you have done. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;So many people in the west left Buddhism because of the confusion you created with this ban against Dorje Shugden which is immoral.&lt;/font&gt;

You could of had millions of people who practice Dorje Shugden to support, love and follow you, but you scared them away. They are hurt and very disappointed. They loved you and respected you deeply before the ban. It has been 60 years and you have failed to get Tibet back. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Your biggest failure is not getting Tibet back after 57 years in exile.&lt;/font&gt; Now you are begging China to allow you to return to Tibet to the disappointment of thousands of people who fought for a free Tibet believing in you. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;So many self-immolated for a free Tibet and now you want Tibet to be a part of China with no referendum from Tibetans.&lt;/font&gt; Just like a dictator, you decide on your own.  It was your government and you that lost Tibet in the first place. Your policies and style of doing things do not benefit Tibet and Buddhism. You have been the sole ruler of Tibet your whole life and you still have not gotten our country of Tibet back for us. Our families and us are separated. Yet you create more pain by creating a ban to further divide people. Please have compassion.

No other Buddhist leader has banned or condemned any religion except for you. It looks very bad. You are a Nobel laureate and this is not fitting of a laureate. You should unite people and not separate them by religious differences.

&lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;You said Ms. Aung San Suu Kyi did not do right to the Rohingya people in Myanmar due to religious differences, but you are doing the same thing to the Shugden Buddhists within your own society.&lt;/font&gt; There is a parallel in this. You separate the Shugden Buddhists from the others in Tibetan society.

You have lost so many people who would have loved and supported you. You have lost so much support around the world. The Shugden Buddhists who love you number in the millions. When you are fast losing support from governments and private people, it will not do you well to lose more.

After you are passed away in the future, the rift you created between the Dorje Shugden and non-Dorje Shugden people will remain for a while and that will be your legacy. Disharmony. You will be remembered for this. Not as a hero but a disharmony creator.

Dorje Shugden will spread and further grow, but you will be no more as you are a human. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;No one wishes you bad and in fact we hope you have a long and healthy life, but we have lost so much hope and have so much despair because of you.&lt;/font&gt; All the hundreds of Dorje Shugden lamas, tulkus and geshes are maturing and there are hundreds of Dorje Shugden monasteries in Tibet who will not give up Dorje Shugden. You have made a mistake. These hundreds of teachers and teachers to be will spread Dorje Shugden further in the future.

The gurus that gave us Dorje Shugden as a spiritual practice and you have called these holy gurus wrong and they are mistaken in giving us Dorje Shugden. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;How can you insult our gurus whom we respect so much? If they can be wrong, then you can be wrong.&lt;/font&gt; Then all gurus can be wrong. So no one needs to listen to any guru? You have created this trend. It is not healthy. Your own gurus practiced Dorje Shugden their whole lives. Your own gurus were exemplary and highly learned.

Dalai Lama you have created so much pain with this ban against so many people due to religion. You are ageing fast. Are you going to do anything about it or stay stubborn, hard and un-moving. You show a smile and preach peace and harmony wherever you go. But will you do the same to your own people? Please rectify the wrong you have done. Please before it is too late. You can create harmony again or you can pass away in the future with this legacy of peace. May you live long and think carefully and admit what was a mistake in having this unethical ban against Dorje Shugden religion.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dalai Lama,</p>
<p>Since you started the cruel ban against the 350 year Dorje Shugden practice, how has it benefit your Tibetan society and Buddhism in the world? <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">Things have become worse and most educated Tibetans can see this.</font> They don&#8217;t speak out not because they don&#8217;t see your ban as wrong, but you instill fear in them and not respect. It is like fear of a dictator. I am sorry to say so. Everyone is divided. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">There is no harmony.</font> Before your ban there was more harmony and unity.</p>
<p>By enacting the ban, you split the monasteries, split so many families, split regions in Tibet apart, split your disciples from you, split your own gurus from you, split Tibetan Buddhism apart. You have created so much disharmony.</p>
<p>It is not democratic what you have done to ban a religion within your community. You always talk of tolerance and acceptance and democracy and yet you do not accept and tolerate something different from your beliefs. When people practice Dorje Shugden you ostracize them, ban them from seeing you, ban them from using Tibetan facilities. You know you have done that. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">There are videos that capture your speech and prove this point.</font> You even had people expelled from monasteries just because they practice Dorje Shugden. Some of the monks you expelled have been in the monastery for over 40 years. Many older monks shed tears because of this.</p>
<p>Many young educated Tibetans lost confidence in you as they saw the damage the Dorje Shugden ban created and they lose hope. Many have become free thinkers. They reject what you have done. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">So many people in the west left Buddhism because of the confusion you created with this ban against Dorje Shugden which is immoral.</font></p>
<p>You could of had millions of people who practice Dorje Shugden to support, love and follow you, but you scared them away. They are hurt and very disappointed. They loved you and respected you deeply before the ban. It has been 60 years and you have failed to get Tibet back. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">Your biggest failure is not getting Tibet back after 57 years in exile.</font> Now you are begging China to allow you to return to Tibet to the disappointment of thousands of people who fought for a free Tibet believing in you. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">So many self-immolated for a free Tibet and now you want Tibet to be a part of China with no referendum from Tibetans.</font> Just like a dictator, you decide on your own.  It was your government and you that lost Tibet in the first place. Your policies and style of doing things do not benefit Tibet and Buddhism. You have been the sole ruler of Tibet your whole life and you still have not gotten our country of Tibet back for us. Our families and us are separated. Yet you create more pain by creating a ban to further divide people. Please have compassion.</p>
<p>No other Buddhist leader has banned or condemned any religion except for you. It looks very bad. You are a Nobel laureate and this is not fitting of a laureate. You should unite people and not separate them by religious differences.</p>
<p><font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">You said Ms. Aung San Suu Kyi did not do right to the Rohingya people in Myanmar due to religious differences, but you are doing the same thing to the Shugden Buddhists within your own society.</font> There is a parallel in this. You separate the Shugden Buddhists from the others in Tibetan society.</p>
<p>You have lost so many people who would have loved and supported you. You have lost so much support around the world. The Shugden Buddhists who love you number in the millions. When you are fast losing support from governments and private people, it will not do you well to lose more.</p>
<p>After you are passed away in the future, the rift you created between the Dorje Shugden and non-Dorje Shugden people will remain for a while and that will be your legacy. Disharmony. You will be remembered for this. Not as a hero but a disharmony creator.</p>
<p>Dorje Shugden will spread and further grow, but you will be no more as you are a human. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">No one wishes you bad and in fact we hope you have a long and healthy life, but we have lost so much hope and have so much despair because of you.</font> All the hundreds of Dorje Shugden lamas, tulkus and geshes are maturing and there are hundreds of Dorje Shugden monasteries in Tibet who will not give up Dorje Shugden. You have made a mistake. These hundreds of teachers and teachers to be will spread Dorje Shugden further in the future.</p>
<p>The gurus that gave us Dorje Shugden as a spiritual practice and you have called these holy gurus wrong and they are mistaken in giving us Dorje Shugden. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">How can you insult our gurus whom we respect so much? If they can be wrong, then you can be wrong.</font> Then all gurus can be wrong. So no one needs to listen to any guru? You have created this trend. It is not healthy. Your own gurus practiced Dorje Shugden their whole lives. Your own gurus were exemplary and highly learned.</p>
<p>Dalai Lama you have created so much pain with this ban against so many people due to religion. You are ageing fast. Are you going to do anything about it or stay stubborn, hard and un-moving. You show a smile and preach peace and harmony wherever you go. But will you do the same to your own people? Please rectify the wrong you have done. Please before it is too late. You can create harmony again or you can pass away in the future with this legacy of peace. May you live long and think carefully and admit what was a mistake in having this unethical ban against Dorje Shugden religion.</p>
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		<title>By: Sierra</title>
		<link>http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/a-solution-for-the-shugden-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-205955</link>
		<dc:creator>Sierra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2016 07:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, 2 years down the road from the date of this article, there is hope. There is an article that shows that the Dalai Lama is finally saying that Dorje Shugden cannot harm him and by inference cannot harm the Tibetan cause. Please follow the link attached. 

http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=109777

Thanks to ShugdenProtector who posted this link in the forum to announce the great news. 

Further, the Dalai was quoted the following &quot;:-

“I hear that some people report that I have said no one should do the practice of Dolgyal. That is not what I say. There are problems with the practice, which I know from my own experience, and that’s why I recommend people not to do it. But if someone wants to do it, they can. There are monks today in monasteries adjacent to Ganden and Sera who specifically follow the practice.” ~Dalai Lama

Source: http://dalailama.com/news/post/1457-avalokiteshvara-empowerment-and-public-talk

So, again by inference, anyone can practice, and therefore there is no longer any reason for the Dalai Lama&#039;s followers and the CTA to persecute, discriminate, segregate and threaten and commit violence against Shugdenpas.   If they do so, then they are defying the wishes and words of the Dalai Lama. They then are the ones who wish the Dalai Lama ill.

Thank you, ds.com for your platform for news and knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, 2 years down the road from the date of this article, there is hope. There is an article that shows that the Dalai Lama is finally saying that Dorje Shugden cannot harm him and by inference cannot harm the Tibetan cause. Please follow the link attached. </p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=109777" rel="nofollow">http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=109777</a></p>
<p>Thanks to ShugdenProtector who posted this link in the forum to announce the great news. </p>
<p>Further, the Dalai was quoted the following &#8220;:-</p>
<p>“I hear that some people report that I have said no one should do the practice of Dolgyal. That is not what I say. There are problems with the practice, which I know from my own experience, and that’s why I recommend people not to do it. But if someone wants to do it, they can. There are monks today in monasteries adjacent to Ganden and Sera who specifically follow the practice.” ~Dalai Lama</p>
<p>Source: <a target="_blank" href="http://dalailama.com/news/post/1457-avalokiteshvara-empowerment-and-public-talk" rel="nofollow">http://dalailama.com/news/post/1457-avalokiteshvara-empowerment-and-public-talk</a></p>
<p>So, again by inference, anyone can practice, and therefore there is no longer any reason for the Dalai Lama&#8217;s followers and the CTA to persecute, discriminate, segregate and threaten and commit violence against Shugdenpas.   If they do so, then they are defying the wishes and words of the Dalai Lama. They then are the ones who wish the Dalai Lama ill.</p>
<p>Thank you, ds.com for your platform for news and knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: Sierra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sierra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2016 17:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the talk about China funding the Dorje Shugden practitioners is very tiring. Who instituted the ban? If the ban was not there in the first place, how can China drive a wedge within the Tibetans. Looking at the situation now, it&#039;s the Tibetans themselves that are doing the dividing and pointing fingers.

By this very accusation, the CTA has shown that they were bought, so therefore, these monasteries that were rebuilt can be bought. Old adage of &quot;to set a thief to catch a thief&quot; hold water for me here.

The reasons given for the ban is pretty lame. For all that it&#039;s worth, the CTA should thank the current Chinese government for rebuilding the monasteries which the CTA do not have to do now. They should be happy now that they will have extra money for their pockets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the talk about China funding the Dorje Shugden practitioners is very tiring. Who instituted the ban? If the ban was not there in the first place, how can China drive a wedge within the Tibetans. Looking at the situation now, it&#8217;s the Tibetans themselves that are doing the dividing and pointing fingers.</p>
<p>By this very accusation, the CTA has shown that they were bought, so therefore, these monasteries that were rebuilt can be bought. Old adage of &#8220;to set a thief to catch a thief&#8221; hold water for me here.</p>
<p>The reasons given for the ban is pretty lame. For all that it&#8217;s worth, the CTA should thank the current Chinese government for rebuilding the monasteries which the CTA do not have to do now. They should be happy now that they will have extra money for their pockets.</p>
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		<title>By: SabrinaS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SabrinaS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2016 12:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Agnes Kohl&#039;s comment. I tend to agree too! If China was really involved in funding and helping the Shugden practitioners, they would have the largest and grandest monasteries and who would even bother inviting the Dalai Lama to their official events. CTA won&#039;t even have voice as they will be marginalised in favour of China&#039;s trade agreements. 
We all know the Dalai Lama&#039;s allegations of Dorje Shugden is illogical and CTA&#039;s enforcement of his wishes is gangsterism against human rights and religious freedom. Its time that the heads of countries and religious bodies stop accommodating the Dalai Lama and demand a logical solution to settle the issue of the ban and the sufferings of the practitioners in the hands of CTA and Anti-Shugdens. The Dalai Lama should be made to face the contradiction of his teachings on compassion and love while segregating and condemning Shugden practitioners. As the article mentioned, only the Dalai Lama himself will be able to resolve this ban and so it is with him that dialogue is needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Agnes Kohl&#8217;s comment. I tend to agree too! If China was really involved in funding and helping the Shugden practitioners, they would have the largest and grandest monasteries and who would even bother inviting the Dalai Lama to their official events. CTA won&#8217;t even have voice as they will be marginalised in favour of China&#8217;s trade agreements.<br />
We all know the Dalai Lama&#8217;s allegations of Dorje Shugden is illogical and CTA&#8217;s enforcement of his wishes is gangsterism against human rights and religious freedom. Its time that the heads of countries and religious bodies stop accommodating the Dalai Lama and demand a logical solution to settle the issue of the ban and the sufferings of the practitioners in the hands of CTA and Anti-Shugdens. The Dalai Lama should be made to face the contradiction of his teachings on compassion and love while segregating and condemning Shugden practitioners. As the article mentioned, only the Dalai Lama himself will be able to resolve this ban and so it is with him that dialogue is needed.</p>
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		<title>By: Rinchen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rinchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is indeed a great article. I would not understand why the CTA would not try to sit people down to do the discussion. 

It just does not make sense for people to condemning things that is in fact just based on statement that has over thrown history that is being done for for hundreds of years.

Till today, I cannot see why the Dalai Lama has given up the Shugden practice, and even have a ban on it. Saying that those people that do this practice would be the people that are against him, making exceptions for only his guru that would be able to do this practice. 

Why is there any exemptions at all if the practice is really bad?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is indeed a great article. I would not understand why the CTA would not try to sit people down to do the discussion. </p>
<p>It just does not make sense for people to condemning things that is in fact just based on statement that has over thrown history that is being done for for hundreds of years.</p>
<p>Till today, I cannot see why the Dalai Lama has given up the Shugden practice, and even have a ban on it. Saying that those people that do this practice would be the people that are against him, making exceptions for only his guru that would be able to do this practice. </p>
<p>Why is there any exemptions at all if the practice is really bad?</p>
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		<title>By: Agnes Kohl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agnes Kohl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2015 12:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously?  If the Chinese backed Shugden people, would we even need to have this conversation? With Chinese backing who needs the Dalai Lama and who will give a toss about the CTA! Show the evidence instead of making false allegations. I pray for wisdom and common sense for CTA and anti-Shugden bands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously?  If the Chinese backed Shugden people, would we even need to have this conversation? With Chinese backing who needs the Dalai Lama and who will give a toss about the CTA! Show the evidence instead of making false allegations. I pray for wisdom and common sense for CTA and anti-Shugden bands.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2015 07:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The King of  England at one time  in the 16th century banned  ie condemned the practice of the Shakers  it  created much dis harmony and persecution  but because of this a great land was  inhabited where that freedom became the foundation of its government

repression of freedom to practice religion  or practices  seems to become a breeding ground and a tempering  for its free expression As a Christian who is considering Buddhist practice  I hope this confusion will be resolved but only see it as the age old result of the struggle for power vs true freedom From what I have read even the Buddha himself wanted to make this change ie his philosophy vs the Brahmin Caste system  Good Luck to all  in this conflict....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The King of  England at one time  in the 16th century banned  ie condemned the practice of the Shakers  it  created much dis harmony and persecution  but because of this a great land was  inhabited where that freedom became the foundation of its government</p>
<p>repression of freedom to practice religion  or practices  seems to become a breeding ground and a tempering  for its free expression As a Christian who is considering Buddhist practice  I hope this confusion will be resolved but only see it as the age old result of the struggle for power vs true freedom From what I have read even the Buddha himself wanted to make this change ie his philosophy vs the Brahmin Caste system  Good Luck to all  in this conflict&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: bond</title>
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		<dc:creator>bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2014 10:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting to note that among the many leaders of the world, spiritual heads &amp; great individuals whom the Dalai Lama &amp; CTA met are strong advocate of freedom of speech, choice &amp; even religious freedom. Not because they are concerned about the people will not support them but simply out of respect for their rights as part of the citizens of the world. Ironically while the Dalai Lama is promoting love, compassion &amp; world peace everywhere he go but on the other hand the CTA’s actions &amp; discriminations towards their own people totally contradict to what the Dalai Lama preach &amp; represent, the icon of love, peace &amp; compassion. Their baseless &amp; illogical accusation are totally unfounded with no solid proof or evidence to support their claims which are driven by only greed &amp; selfish reasons. 

Evidently for so many years the CTA has achieve nothing with their so called &quot;Tibetan Cause” but rather hurting, separating &amp; discriminating their fellow countrymen &amp; women, I only hope that H.H. Dalai Lama will immediately lift the ban &amp; end the suffering of both the DS practitioners &amp; their families &amp; friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting to note that among the many leaders of the world, spiritual heads &amp; great individuals whom the Dalai Lama &amp; CTA met are strong advocate of freedom of speech, choice &amp; even religious freedom. Not because they are concerned about the people will not support them but simply out of respect for their rights as part of the citizens of the world. Ironically while the Dalai Lama is promoting love, compassion &amp; world peace everywhere he go but on the other hand the CTA’s actions &amp; discriminations towards their own people totally contradict to what the Dalai Lama preach &amp; represent, the icon of love, peace &amp; compassion. Their baseless &amp; illogical accusation are totally unfounded with no solid proof or evidence to support their claims which are driven by only greed &amp; selfish reasons. </p>
<p>Evidently for so many years the CTA has achieve nothing with their so called &#8220;Tibetan Cause” but rather hurting, separating &amp; discriminating their fellow countrymen &amp; women, I only hope that H.H. Dalai Lama will immediately lift the ban &amp; end the suffering of both the DS practitioners &amp; their families &amp; friends.</p>
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		<title>By: dharmacrazy</title>
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		<dc:creator>dharmacrazy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2014 07:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In many ways, the solution to the Shugden Controversy is evident and getting more glaring with the progress of time. Why? Because of the actions and results of both Dorje Shugden practitioners and pro-Dalai Lama camp.

Whether Dorje Shugden is good or bad is not the point. The importance is the impact of the practice on the actions of body, speech and mind of the people who practice it. The Dorje Shugden practitioners have been engaged in peaceful demonstrations internationally that are arranged with respect to local authorities and regulations. Similarly, the demonstrations are conducted in creative ways where Shugden practitioners express their stand through music, display of placards, and respectful interviews with journalists and reporters. All these speak well of Dorje Shugden practitioners, especially when compared to the vulgar and violent demeanor and actions of the anti-Shugden camp. So if practicing Dorje Shugden creates peaceful individuals and groups in various parts of the world who consistently requested the Dalai Lama to debate and discuss is bad, how can flicking the middle finger in public, shouting vulgarities, destroying Buddhist statues and Guru images in monasteries and temples as well as damaging people and property be perceived by His Holiness and his administration to be better? 

The shallowness of defining someone’s patriotism based on their choice of religious practice still makes me speechless. This is especially so when such an equation is formulated by the Dalai Lama and his leaders. Religion and politics do not mix in many part of the world as clearly illustrated in the article for valid reasons: the conflict in interest and infringement into fundamental human rights. In fact, as basic social ethics, religion and political belief are subject matters that society is taught to respect each person’s entitled individual choice. Therefore, how can an icon of peace mash the two together and and create so much division, disharmony as well as tangible and intangible damage by his political and religious policy?  Up to this point, no one in the Dalai Lama’s administration has been able to offer a logical, clear and consistent communication as a response. 

The invasion of human rights by His Holiness and the CTA is extreme. Not only does His Holiness stop Dorje Shugden practitioner from receiving his teachings because of their choice to uphold Guru devotion and continue the practice bestowed upon them by their spiritual teachers, he would even oust sincere Dharma masters like Zemey Rinpoche who served HH tirelessly, including going to meet with the Chairman Mao in China for negotiation. How can we have faith in these high lamas who practiced and taught the Dorje Shugden lineage? Because each of them have returned and their reincarnations, such as Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche, have been recognized by the Dalai Lama himself. 

If His Holiness talks about compassion, how could he permit Zemey Rinpoche to prostrate outside the teaching hall every time he gives a teaching without granting forgiveness or even some empathy? The Dalai Lama never forgave or pardoned Zemey Rinpoche who consistently “attended” every teaching outside the hall doing prostration from the start to the end of every session. 

If it was really “up to you” to practice what you want, then why torture those who took this option to practice Dorje Shugden by expelling them from monasteries and forbidding them to attend teachings and depriving them from basic services and goods. Was this “up to you” insincere? If so, how can a global spiritual leader and peace icon act with such deception? Why trick the people into taking an option that was never truly there?

I am not sure where Dorje Shugden practitioners are getting their money from but one thing for sure is that His Holiness has been receiving a lot of funds from the general public for many years now, enabling him and his entourage to travel the world. These were funds raised to free Tibet and contribute to the cause of greater peace etc. The cause of free Tibet is not something we need to talk about as it will be like rubbing salt on open wounds. But how have the funds been used to create greater peace. Instead, disharmony is being caused within the Buddhist world with the Dorje Shugden Ban. How much fund is used to cause this violence, separation and schism amongst Buddhist brothers and sisters? So, before His Holiness criticizes other people’s method of raising funds etc., it is good advise that the Dalai Lama and his administration be more accountable with the results they are creating with the generosity of all his sponsors and supporters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In many ways, the solution to the Shugden Controversy is evident and getting more glaring with the progress of time. Why? Because of the actions and results of both Dorje Shugden practitioners and pro-Dalai Lama camp.</p>
<p>Whether Dorje Shugden is good or bad is not the point. The importance is the impact of the practice on the actions of body, speech and mind of the people who practice it. The Dorje Shugden practitioners have been engaged in peaceful demonstrations internationally that are arranged with respect to local authorities and regulations. Similarly, the demonstrations are conducted in creative ways where Shugden practitioners express their stand through music, display of placards, and respectful interviews with journalists and reporters. All these speak well of Dorje Shugden practitioners, especially when compared to the vulgar and violent demeanor and actions of the anti-Shugden camp. So if practicing Dorje Shugden creates peaceful individuals and groups in various parts of the world who consistently requested the Dalai Lama to debate and discuss is bad, how can flicking the middle finger in public, shouting vulgarities, destroying Buddhist statues and Guru images in monasteries and temples as well as damaging people and property be perceived by His Holiness and his administration to be better? </p>
<p>The shallowness of defining someone’s patriotism based on their choice of religious practice still makes me speechless. This is especially so when such an equation is formulated by the Dalai Lama and his leaders. Religion and politics do not mix in many part of the world as clearly illustrated in the article for valid reasons: the conflict in interest and infringement into fundamental human rights. In fact, as basic social ethics, religion and political belief are subject matters that society is taught to respect each person’s entitled individual choice. Therefore, how can an icon of peace mash the two together and and create so much division, disharmony as well as tangible and intangible damage by his political and religious policy?  Up to this point, no one in the Dalai Lama’s administration has been able to offer a logical, clear and consistent communication as a response. </p>
<p>The invasion of human rights by His Holiness and the CTA is extreme. Not only does His Holiness stop Dorje Shugden practitioner from receiving his teachings because of their choice to uphold Guru devotion and continue the practice bestowed upon them by their spiritual teachers, he would even oust sincere Dharma masters like Zemey Rinpoche who served HH tirelessly, including going to meet with the Chairman Mao in China for negotiation. How can we have faith in these high lamas who practiced and taught the Dorje Shugden lineage? Because each of them have returned and their reincarnations, such as Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche, have been recognized by the Dalai Lama himself. </p>
<p>If His Holiness talks about compassion, how could he permit Zemey Rinpoche to prostrate outside the teaching hall every time he gives a teaching without granting forgiveness or even some empathy? The Dalai Lama never forgave or pardoned Zemey Rinpoche who consistently “attended” every teaching outside the hall doing prostration from the start to the end of every session. </p>
<p>If it was really “up to you” to practice what you want, then why torture those who took this option to practice Dorje Shugden by expelling them from monasteries and forbidding them to attend teachings and depriving them from basic services and goods. Was this “up to you” insincere? If so, how can a global spiritual leader and peace icon act with such deception? Why trick the people into taking an option that was never truly there?</p>
<p>I am not sure where Dorje Shugden practitioners are getting their money from but one thing for sure is that His Holiness has been receiving a lot of funds from the general public for many years now, enabling him and his entourage to travel the world. These were funds raised to free Tibet and contribute to the cause of greater peace etc. The cause of free Tibet is not something we need to talk about as it will be like rubbing salt on open wounds. But how have the funds been used to create greater peace. Instead, disharmony is being caused within the Buddhist world with the Dorje Shugden Ban. How much fund is used to cause this violence, separation and schism amongst Buddhist brothers and sisters? So, before His Holiness criticizes other people’s method of raising funds etc., it is good advise that the Dalai Lama and his administration be more accountable with the results they are creating with the generosity of all his sponsors and supporters.</p>
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		<title>By: samayakeeper</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2014 09:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How often have we heard of the Dalai Lama and CTA claiming this and without a shred of evidence especially pertaining to the claim of China secretly funding Dorje Shugden lamas and practitioners? Too often that it sounds like a mantra. This article is well researched and well presented unlike the baseless chants of the CTA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How often have we heard of the Dalai Lama and CTA claiming this and without a shred of evidence especially pertaining to the claim of China secretly funding Dorje Shugden lamas and practitioners? Too often that it sounds like a mantra. This article is well researched and well presented unlike the baseless chants of the CTA.</p>
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